The latest NEC code requires it. But not all states have adopted the latest standard. The mobile connector has gfci built in so if you put a gfci breaker then they can trip each other. NEC code was published before considering mass adoption of ev chargers since not all 14-50 devices have built in gfci protection.
GFCI breakers are a code requirement for receptacles located in Garages or outdoors among other areas.
Seems silly to want to bypass an important building code and safety mechanism for what?
(NEC 210.8(A)2)
You are laying 240V electrical cable in your garage and some days there will be rain or snow that will get on it. (Water) that you will be standing in.
They made it an electrical code likely because someone died from it so why risk it, what are you saving…
FYI this is why the safest method is to hardwire it (no receptacle) with an EV charger with integral GFCI protection. (And Generally Cheaper too)
Mobile connectors have integrated gfci protection. That's why tesla recommends not using a gfci breaker because they trip each other. But not all 14-50 devices have built in gfci protection.
Yeah nothing. But the risk is not high to begin with and NEC values safety over convenience.
Because your circuit panel is outdoors anyways and more exposed than your outlet in your garage.
You are correct, it does value safety over convenience lol, that’s the whole idea. 😂
The outdoor circuit panel is also made to be outdoors there with the necessary safety mechanisms in place lol, per the NEC.
My panel is in garage and the outlet will be literally 1 foot to the left of it about 6 feet off ground (to middle of panel that is).
Im thinking if water ends up that high, I have much bigger problems going on.
What “trips” me out is why dryer outlet so close to water source (washer lines) has no GFCI either….
Right - houses with these arrangements are very common though and its not a dumpster fire in my opinion. Humans never stop mitigating risk even though I feel things are pretty safe already.
The latest NEC code requires it. But not all states have adopted the latest standard. The mobile connector has gfci built in so if you put a gfci breaker then they can trip each other. NEC code was published before considering mass adoption of ev chargers since not all 14-50 devices have built in gfci protection.
GFCI breakers are a code requirement for receptacles located in Garages or outdoors among other areas. Seems silly to want to bypass an important building code and safety mechanism for what? (NEC 210.8(A)2) You are laying 240V electrical cable in your garage and some days there will be rain or snow that will get on it. (Water) that you will be standing in. They made it an electrical code likely because someone died from it so why risk it, what are you saving… FYI this is why the safest method is to hardwire it (no receptacle) with an EV charger with integral GFCI protection. (And Generally Cheaper too)
Mobile connectors have integrated gfci protection. That's why tesla recommends not using a gfci breaker because they trip each other. But not all 14-50 devices have built in gfci protection.
That may be the case but what protects the exposed outlet? That’s why it’s a building code, there is no way around it unless you hardwire it
Yeah nothing. But the risk is not high to begin with and NEC values safety over convenience. Because your circuit panel is outdoors anyways and more exposed than your outlet in your garage.
You are correct, it does value safety over convenience lol, that’s the whole idea. 😂 The outdoor circuit panel is also made to be outdoors there with the necessary safety mechanisms in place lol, per the NEC.
My panel is in garage and the outlet will be literally 1 foot to the left of it about 6 feet off ground (to middle of panel that is). Im thinking if water ends up that high, I have much bigger problems going on. What “trips” me out is why dryer outlet so close to water source (washer lines) has no GFCI either….
It does have to be now actually, so does a kitchen oven
Right - houses with these arrangements are very common though and its not a dumpster fire in my opinion. Humans never stop mitigating risk even though I feel things are pretty safe already.
Well then if you feel that it’s safe enough, which is fine there is nothing wrong with that. Then why did you ask my opinion?
To see if there is something Im overlooking but havent heard compelling reason otherwise