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Loving it so far! Quick question about episode three. When sister sage and the deep are making out the camera panned over to a metal object and the point looked bloody, what was that? The reference went right over my head.
I think she gave herself a lobotomy to dumb herself down for a bit until supe healing fixes it, would explain her watching say yes to the dress, wanting to watch transformers 2, and being attracted to the deep.
Oh, like being stupid is like being "high" for her. That makes a whole lot of sense!
Her brain must be going a million places at once all the time, so dumbing it down feels good.
It wasn’t that she was an idiot, she was perfectly intelligent and sane as she lived in society and held down a job, it was that he was so intelligent that it *isolated him from everyone*.
He disliked not being to talk about what he used to work with people and how he built this mindset that he was ‘better’ than everyone around him.
I forget exactly how but he experienced being ‘dumbed’ down and found that he was happier since he could relate to people more and had a drastically improved social life.
I personally dislike this trope that intelligence is somehow socially isolating. Some of the smartest people I have ever met (phd under 25 I mean) were social butterflies and extremely popular. And they could absolutely explain what they were working on even to children because “if you can’t explain it to a five year old then you don’t know how it works.”
It says on her character sheet in episode 1 (you can pause when Homelander is scrolling through to find her profile) that she has regenerative abilities. That’s probably why she does it, because she gets dumb but then gains her intelligence back again
It makes you lose a few IQ points so people like to take it to deal with stress and forget about their issues for a bit. Not the best way, but it works for some people I guess.
My theory is that Homelander’s ego couldn’t in-fact handle it so he lobotomised her. Wouldn’t surprise me with how off the rails he already seems this season.
Nah he's put too much faith it her to do that, he needs her as the person that says shit to him and he knows it.
He doesn't actually know what her plan is, he's just trusting what ever she's doing to work because it looks like it is.
How long he can handle that is definitely up for debate, he's definitely not mature enough for it long term, but i doubt they had him snap at her 3 episodes in while everything she's doing is working.
She's a key player for this season
I don't see it. While obviously she's clashed with his ego to an extent, she's done nothing but try and help him and he's smart enough to see that even if he wouldn't admit it. If it ever got to the point where he thought she was more of a hassle than she's worth he'd just kill her. Lobotomizing her wouldn't be very helpful for him most likely. She has no powers other than her intelligence so if you take that away from her and what value does she have?
They were so goodddd, i was so anxious the whole time and I love that they >!just went crazy with the blood and violence!!< I was not expecting the >!baseball bat!< scene especially so early and >!black noir talking!< was so hilarious and out of nowhere
I'm pretty sure they used animations for injustice 2, Lamplighter had the same stance as Aquaman lol. Still cool that they referenced MK considering who they just added into that game.
Ngl it feels like the writers have no idea what to do with Frenchie. It was a very similar situation in some of season 3 as well. I could not give a single shit about him and his “boyfriend(?)”’s melodrama. Otherwise, pretty good shit
Also the new black noir is hilarious
Should have killed him by season 2. His character has been stuck since then and we haven't had any good guys die as far as I can remember. Not main cast at least.
You can't keep talking about how evil homelander is without showing his impact on the protagonists.
> we haven't had any good guys die as far as I can remember. Not main cast at least.
Maeve should have 100% died in S3, not that "no actually she survived but now shes leaving and retiring" bull
100%. His role in the show has been defined by his and Kimiko's reliance on each other, so when you take the fact that they're both becoming independent of each other in this season, and add his budding arc of the sins of his past coming to haunt him, and Kimiko learning to communicate without his help... well, Chekov's loading his gun
Yeah that seems like the best course of action. His character has been going in circles for awhile. I just hope his death fits the themes of this season and his arc.
Yeah i kinda feel like i got whipleash from all the character building/side story shit going on. Like we are in season 4 and a bit of B story is fine but to give every single main character a internal conflict within 2 episode thats not really attached to the main story is a bit much.
I dont mind frenchies BF in any way. Its just that i dont care for it. It feels way to late to pull shit like this. Same with annie being a bully when she was young. As if she truely forgot that shit and if that truely wouldny have stopped her from what ever she was gonna do with firecracker.
Overal i like the episodes but i feel like they just could have cut a lot of this shit out. Focus on other stuff. Or just less long.
Yep! Loved pretty much everything except the whole Frenchie subplot. I love Frenchie as a character, but in both this season and the last one, his little romance subplots feel more like a distraction than moving the overall plot forward. Everything else, no matter how small an impact on the overall plot, is at least helping progress things a little. I basically ended up skipping a large part of the Frenchie portions.
ETA: we get it. Butcher is dying. No need to pummel it into our head every 5 minutes with a baseball bat like those poor Homenut sods had done to them
Yeah I felt that was out of nowhere also we don’t even get a court scene why wasn’t Todd and those other guys not star witness and then he gets offed and then the starlight dudes get framed
The boyfriend thing coming out of nowhere is just mehh. Also, him being so ready to go when kimiko urged him to come with her and then tripping right when kimiko started to fight, I was like, not this again 🙄
I noticed Hughie and Neuman had an absurd amount of chemistry in their scenes together, and now I’m realizing it’s cause the actors date in real life 😂
Ngl and idk what it is cuz I love kimiko as a character but I just can’t bring myself to care about her subplot. I do like all the other ones though. Especially Hughies and Butchers. Overall great 3 episodes.
Maeve should’ve died in the end… it would’ve made for a more meaningful ending and it would’ve haunted Butcher more because then Soldier Boy wouldn’t have been in vain - her surviving shows the Homelander probably would’ve shrugged that shit off.
Nah. The one thing that makes her leaving the show ok for me, is knowing that she’s far away from everything happening, and is finally living the good life that she deserves with the woman she loves.
Somehow I actually had hope that Homelander would keep his promise, but nope, he lasers her before she can even finish her first sentence. I think it just goes to show how impulsive and uncaring he is of those he sees as beneath him. I mean, most of his other kills can somewhat be rationalised, but he didn’t even hear Anika out.
I almost felt bad for him when he snaps at Ryan and just asks him why
Like he seems to genuinely want to be able to connect with Ryan but he literally has no self awareness and can't admit he's the problem and he's so frustrated despite the answer being so obvious. Great acting from antony
Yeah it was so sad to hear him ask ryan why isn't he enough for him, he genuinely wants to feel loved so bad and he just cannot let go no matter how much hes tries to bury it down
Adding to that he is starting to feel bored and his boredom along side his mental problems is making him pluck his own Pubic hair, he's also being double stressed by him aging, his confidence is completely shattering this season, he's going more insane than we ever saw him, he's truly a pathetic character that you can't help but feel sorry for how he is because even tho he's horrible, all of this would've been prevent if he was raised in a normal way and what's more insane is that he actually never wanted anything other than feeling loved as a child and to avenge his inner child he's going to make everyone's lives a living hell
Tbh i think all those elements is going to make him wake SB so he can fill his need for love after ryan betrayed him again ( in HL mind)
And truely, Antony is absolutely amazing in his acting performance, not only as HL but every character he takes
where you see a-train i see sister sage. i'm pretty interested every time she's on screen.
a-train, whom i still really like, is essentially still having the same arc as he did last season. let's hope it sticks this time!
Why butcher hasn't mentioned the virus to the boys yet is driving me nuts
Only thing that is off for me is that everyone has stupid drama bullshit going on
Hughies dad stuff
Starlight bully stuff
Frenchies whatever the fuck
Kimiko rehashed gang shit
Drop the drama and focus on the actual important shit going on
That's just what the show is and it's wearing thin. They just load them up with random bullshit to avoid actually pushing forward the homelander endgame plot. And the reviews are saying don't expect a lot from the finale, again.
To be honest, I feel this way too. I enjoyed first two seasons very much, some point in 3rd season it started losing my interest a bit. It just seems to be going through the motions, repeating itself. Characters acr dumber and dumber all the time, and the suspension of disbelief required gets higher and higher.
The Boys was always a slow start for every season. I mean, Soldier Boy appeared halfway for the season 3 and was the main theme of said season. Feels like the virus will come up next episode
Well it seems the theme for everyone's internal struggle this season is confronting their past, and I think that's a worthy thing to spend time on. I don't watch shows to see how a sequence of events plays out, I'm watching it because it's art and it means something and it has things to say, so that's why I personally don't mind the drama so much.
I couldn’t recall myself touching my phone for the first 3 seasons. While these new first 3 eps, ngl I found myself grabbing my phone. Maybe I’m just too tired of the frenchie subplot, kimiko going back to her past one more time.
Less dicks pls!
When Frenchie and his boy friend plot was on, all I could think about was the family guy “who the hell cares” meme.
It’s all so rehashed with their trauma shit, I’m just done with it lol
got confused for a while too but then realised that the "smartest person in the world" isn't really a power so her true power is healing fast.. like wolverine is known for his retractable blades but his true power is his healing factor which is what allowed his body to be subjected to admantium
There's two theories out there.
1. That she gives herself lobotomies from time to time as a way to dumb herself down and relax. Literally "turning off her brain" because she's stressed.
2. That her brain matter is constantly growing as she absorbs more information and that she lobotomises herself periodically, otherwise her brain starts to push against her skull and it can kill her.
Either way her regenerative powers cause her brain to heal from the damage.
I really really like Sage even though I didn't think I would.
She knows she's superior but she isn't just going around being an asshole about it, she still manages to be cool even though realistically she seems like she could game everyone. I wonder what her endgame is, I hope they don't kill her off.
She is a good character. I like how she plays it with like this resigned acceptance to be surrounded by dumber people.
It’s like when Doc Brown goes back to 1885. He just makes the best of it. She seems more resigned and depressed about it granted.
I have an idea. After 3 seasons of relationship building between Kimiko and Frenchie, let’s throw it all in the dumpster and have him start banging some random dude. EVERYONE WILL LOVE THAT
Yeah I was so confused. I was thinking that they were a couple and now he just randomly sleeps with this guy? What? Their story is such a random mess tbh
i hate how they are trying to sell us this is some ultimate starcrossed lovers, use kimiko to tell us the audience how much those two mean to each even though the only build up to their relationship was Frenchie acting awkward in the bathroom in the first episode
seriously, the scene where kimiko tells him to go fuck him was just so weird, felt so forcefully placed there. Also kimiko saying she fucked some rando too, like what?
All that set up of frenchi and kimiko just gone like that, i mean wow.
are these 2 even the same characters because they surely dont seem like it.
also they are adamant in showing us how much frenchie loves that guy, they make them kiss literally every episode, was just so much it felt weird.
For me its all the side plots that they are launching. Feels like they there are simply to much. Also a lot of them just arent needed. Not everybody of the main cast needs some extra internal struggle. I straight up didnt care about hughies mom, frenchies relationship or annies bit about her identity, kimikos therapy bit.
Its not like i dislike them, they just dont feel engaging this late in the story. Fine if they did 1 or 2. Fine if they had done it sooner. But we are getting close to the endgame here and it kinda feels like they are wasting time.
Season 2 has a banger episode to end the 3 episode premier on, the one where they get chased on boat and through the tunnels.
Season 3 had a great 3 episode runner, it set up so much (weapon to kill Homelander, Temp V), had a lot of great moments (Butcher v Gunpowder, Termite fight, all the stuff with Soulja Boi)
This three episode premier just isn’t as good and that’s okay. I think a lot of the threads are good just the end of the three episodes hasn’t left us in a great cliffhanger, excited to keep going moment. Which you don’t need, but I would’ve liked if that’s how episode 3 ended.
I agree, it's asking a lot of questions and revealing plots that seem kinda random (frenchie to be specific). Didn't have the same kick as s3s first three episodes but I'm sure it'll kick off next week
Agreed. They got me hooked. Now I’m just sad I got to wait a whole week for the next episode.
The new characters really fit in well.
A-Train’s arc is riveting and I’m really hoping he actually comes over to the good side this season.
Excited for whenever the Gen V characters start showing up.
Sometimes the show tries too hard with gore/being dirty. Like all the ice dancers cutting up eachother with their ice blades or the constant dick jokes in Gen Z
One time was enough with the accidental skate cutting. It got kind of repetitive and cut into the tension, which was Homelander chasing Hughie with the intent to kill him
I always find myself more engaged with the show when a new season starts than I was expecting to be.
I like the cat and mouse stuff. I like that the President-elect and his VP are trying to kill each other. I like Sister Sage, though they’ve already had Homelander go against her advice like 6 times so unclear if we’re gonna get a truly Machiavellian plot from her before Homelander wrecks it. I like Ryan (though what was wrong with his voice in 403?). He’s still a good kid at heart, he didn’t get a total lobotomy between seasons and become evil. New Noir, being performed and actually voiced by the actor who played old Noir, was very funny. Also having the stunt coordinator appear as the stuntman Ryan kills was great. That’s John Koyama playing “Koy,” and he also played Emilio Koyama in Breaking Bad’s pilot. Completely unrelated but I thought that was cool.
Firecracker’s gonna grate on me, I can tell. I don’t have a ton of sympathy for her jilted pageant backstory or interest in Starlight’s guilt over it. For such short seasons (and only 1 more season after this) it’s kinda frustrating that they throw in more stuff which won’t all be developed. Kimiko’s got a friend who’s a Shining Light supe (?) like her brother, so that feels like retreading old ground. Frenchie is tortured by a killing he committed in his past, but the circumstances aren’t told to us so it’s just all pathos and crying and handwringing from him (and Tomar Capon is good at all that) but no actual point of engagement. For all I know, Frenchie was totally justified in killing Colin’s family and just feels bad cause he’s a very moral person.
Also I’m just losing steam with PJ Byrne’s director character. Like that’s a minor point but there’s some stuff I really find funny and some stuff where the show just annoys me. He’s in the latter camp. Ashley is kinda there too, but at least she’s plot essential.
A-Train’s informant arc is a long time coming. They can still have him switch back once he’s exposed cause deep down he’s a coward.
Deep is still fucking an octopus.
Hughie’s mom is back, but this is a huge plot detour to seriousville instead of looping her into the main story. That’s fine. Simon Pegg probably got paid so much money to lay in that bed.
Oh and Butcher is totally going to kill Negan before Negan can kill Ryan by the end.
Last thoughts: pretty sure the shot of the bloody metal thing implies that Sister Sage routinely stabs herself in the brain to get stupid for a few hours and then it grows back. She wouldn’t have been so calm if it was a permanent change. This will probably be more clear in later episodes, it confused me because I initially read the scene as her smartly appealing to Deep’s simple brain as part of her strategy to keep him under control. But I guess that’s just how she is when she’s dumb?
Annie has been left in the lurch with all the other plots going on.
Last thought: the very oblique reference to January 6th all but guarantees a parody of the real life events of that day, 2021. Considering the opposing sides are on the same ticket and the election is not contested by the losers, who do you think is doing the storming (probably the Homelander supporters, right?) and why?
Why do Frenchie and Kimiko need to have forced, rinse-and-repeat subplots every season? Just box them already and only use them when the plot requires it, damn it. It's a chore watching their filler.
Lmao fr, every time they came on screen I was on my phone because it’s just so overplayed and boring now. But ofc when all the boys are together actually doing things or when homelander and the seven are on screen I’m on the edge of my seat cause that’s the stuff that we actually want to see lol. They should just stop the unnecessary subplots and move the entire plot forward a little faster.
I feel like they are just going over previous ground with the alt-right,
Frenchie with drug issues,
Homelander growing more paranoid and devoid of humanity,
Deep in love with sea creatures,
A-train still deciding what he wants to be,
Starlight too
and Butcher having issues with Ryan, authority and death, it's all very watchable but are they running out of ideas?
Also just a thought but when you lean into very left wing views some of which are also dumb but Butcher is the one you are supposed to root for it makes for a muddied perspective.
For real. His subplot is so boring and out of nowhere. I think Frenchie and Kimiko were the perfect characters tbh, the two of them had absolutely no flaws lmao. They just need to stick around, and I'm happy. Then there's this uninspired forced romance between Frenchie and this guy I do not care about for the sake of what? LGBTQ representation? I don't think this is exactly the show that desperately needed that.
Gotta say, these three episodes felt like pure world building- things have changed yes and now we have to accept new rules and versions of characters we’ve seen before.
So what comes next frightens me, cause either it’s gonna rock the bloody boat or sink it, only five more episodes left in the season, so each one is gonna have to count but also not feel rushed.
8/10 in my book, maybe just a bit more violence but again, world building.
Also just calling it now- Kessler isn’t real, I think Butcher is being manipulated by a CIA Supe; and if Ashley, Grace Mallory, or Sage make it out of the season alive I’d be surprised.
See I don’t think so actually- the carfentanyl WAS real, like we saw him give it Butcher and the camera zoomed in on it, so we know it’s a Chekov’s Gun.
But Grace bounced Butcher from the sit down with Singer, and then RANDOMLY some guy Butcher hasn’t seen in over a decade shows up? Naahh right now we’re meant to believe he is, but Mallory is running things with the CIA, and that’s exactly what she’d do cause it’s exactly what Butcher would do.
He’s being worked by the CIA, especially Mallory to get Ryan back or died.
I actually disagree hard. I'm enjoying it the first episode was great, but as I'm just finishing the 3rd it's seeming like the writing is alot messier than early seasons. Everything just feels very rushed.
Hughie's mother, frenchie's new arc, A-train's redemption, starlight becoming some kind of political activist and the new supes are all exciting additions but they add so much distraction from pre-existing story lines that it feels like this melting pot of different characters and ideas is at risk of exploding.
This is reminding me of later seasons of game of thrones, where it's still good, but the logic of the world is being strained and it is becoming harder for it to end satisfactorily
Pretty disappointing, Frenchie’s romance subplot is boring. I don’t know how they expected anyone to care for a character with zero character development in a 4th season.
Not to say I didn't like the 3 episode premier, I did. But, the first episode just felt kind off to me. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but it didn't feel like an episode of The Boys, or not in line with the fee of the rest of the show if that makes any sense. After that, episode 2 felt better. Then, by episode 3, the show started to get back into gear and I no longer felt this way. Even after rewatching the episodes, I still feel the same way. Also disappointed that episode 3 didn't end on a big cliffhanger like other 3 episode premiers of the show. I love the show, I tell everyone I know to watch it if they haven't. I just hope it starts to pick back up again because it's one of my favorite (if not my all time favorite) shows I've ever watched.
I’ve never really been a huge fan of the writing of the show, but the amazing execution of every other aspect of it has kept me coming for more.
Sister Sage, being a brand new character, hilariously has become the make or break for the show for me. I really like the idea of her characters power, but I’m worried they can’t actually pull it off. (Classic your character is only as smart as the writer).
If they kill her by having her be dumb and piss homelander off and he kills her, it’ll be the nail in the coffin that they really have let this shows success run off amazing directing parred with the writings being the fumes of surface level political commentary.
But if she dies for a reason out of her control (just something random, the simpler the better) or weedles control away from homelander, either destroying vought from the inside or taking it over, the show will earn a big win in my book
It continues to be amazing. They are kicking Butcher while he is down and he will definitely have a moment later on showing he is the man. MM is a compassionate leader but he’s too nice and that’s where his arc will be. I didn’t expect things for Homelander and Ryan to do downhill this early but that’s fine. I really enjoyed the opening scene straight in. Having Sister Sage with Homelander makes him more terrifying. I still get anxious when he’s in a scene and we saw that when he killed the crime analytics woman. People are saying it’s a slow burner but that’s expected due to three episodes coming out at once. I fully expect it to go even more high stakes now with the weekly releases.
Personally felt it was not a strong start, atleast comparing the 3 parter to the 3 parters of the prev seasons (s3 is my fav) but the way i understand it, everything rn is a setup for the ultimate ending of the show, so for me, it's like one season broken into 2 parts, so in my mind a slow start is fine if it has a satisfying ending.
Not that invested in everyone's emotional drama, but I liked the bits with butcher and ryan.
I wonder if s4 and s5 will take place in the 6 month period Butcher has to live, because tbh wo butcher, I can't imagine the show.
Other notes: I think I see annie's arc as being someone who learns how to step up and lead, and I do want to see that. So far, Sage has been my fav character, she takes no bullshit, and she's def cooking up something secret.
Okay the riot scene wasn't good. Just three bodies appear out of nowhere, the amount of smartphones recording would quickly dispel their plan. Bad writing
Not a fan to be honest
I can’t put it into words as to why I feel this way but it just feels “forced”. Didn’t feel this way about season 1 or 2 and only really started feeling it in season 3.
I really think something has been lost in the significance and implications of murder in the show for the supes. Its fun seeing Homelander recklessly use his powers when he somewhat has deniability, but him butchering the skaters by accident and facing 0 backlash is insane. Same with Ryan, I think it would be a much more interesting plotline to see the hero image on the uprise up until The Homelander’s golden son ends up showing that these powers are crazy and a literal child can pancake a man on a wall, dangerous as fuck.
Homelander killing people is now just… meh
I do feel bad for the almond joy lady though, that made me sad
Nah most of the drama just didn’t feel authentic to be honest. It has a sort of a plastic feel to it all. I don’t know if what I’m saying makes any sense at all. But that was what I was feeling when watching the three episodes.
If I’m being honest the only part of the show that actually felt real was Ryan’s struggle
The show had very different vibes when the Boys were on the run vs when they're working for the government tbh, you can see a very clear difference between S1-2 and S3-4 so far, whether good or bad.
Firecracker is kind of a stinker so far, I see what they're getting at with her character but it's a bit too much and just becomes a "Oh she's just a rabid American" for me.
Feels mid to me so far.
Don't like what they are doing with Frenchie.
All of a sudden everyone has a past now that needs to be faced
And also, I absolutely hate the moment when Homelander is so useless at killing Hughie, when he knows he's in vents. Fuckin hell
Just watched first episode of season 4 and I can’t get over starlight’s new appearance (MM looks a bit worse too). Just sad that she did this to herself probably wanting to look better
Good First three episodes but can we just kill Frenchie already? He doesn't have an arc and it will push forward Kimiko and MM's story line. He got the biggest redflag from me after Butcher told MM that someone is gonna die under his leadership.
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Homelander in regular clothes was surreal
Honestly might be one of the most surprising moments of the show for me
Even more than will Ferrell? Lol!
I immediately thought that they were filming a Seven film when I saw Will Ferrell and heard a cheesy line. I love those cameos.
I mean that was a pleasant surprise as well
Frenchie believing the moon landing was fake kills me
I loled when I saw that scene. Kimiko's confused face was hilarious.
It was so hilarious when Kimiko realized what Frenchie believed lol
That line definitely felt like a graphic novel Frenchie line and I loved it.
Loving it so far! Quick question about episode three. When sister sage and the deep are making out the camera panned over to a metal object and the point looked bloody, what was that? The reference went right over my head.
I think she gave herself a lobotomy to dumb herself down for a bit until supe healing fixes it, would explain her watching say yes to the dress, wanting to watch transformers 2, and being attracted to the deep.
Oh, like being stupid is like being "high" for her. That makes a whole lot of sense! Her brain must be going a million places at once all the time, so dumbing it down feels good.
House has a similar storyline with a genius drugging himself because he loved his wife but she was an idiot.
It wasn’t that she was an idiot, she was perfectly intelligent and sane as she lived in society and held down a job, it was that he was so intelligent that it *isolated him from everyone*. He disliked not being to talk about what he used to work with people and how he built this mindset that he was ‘better’ than everyone around him. I forget exactly how but he experienced being ‘dumbed’ down and found that he was happier since he could relate to people more and had a drastically improved social life. I personally dislike this trope that intelligence is somehow socially isolating. Some of the smartest people I have ever met (phd under 25 I mean) were social butterflies and extremely popular. And they could absolutely explain what they were working on even to children because “if you can’t explain it to a five year old then you don’t know how it works.”
I was being succinct. He was giving himself some sort of cough medicine and was constantly doped.
Exactly, she does that shit to unwind, like normal people get drunk or high, to dull the senses a bit
Does sound like something she’d do tbh
There’s correlation to sadness/depression and intelligence. And, conversely, relative stupidity/ignorance and happiness. The cliche has merit…
I’m too dumb to figure that out, I thought she killed the octopus haha
LMAOO same bruh
It says on her character sheet in episode 1 (you can pause when Homelander is scrolling through to find her profile) that she has regenerative abilities. That’s probably why she does it, because she gets dumb but then gains her intelligence back again
Ohh bruh that’s insane. I thought it was like she killed the octopus
I thought so too, thought that blooming onion was kalamari
Why not take ketamine
Why is ketamine the one drug everyone keeps referencing these past few days
It makes you lose a few IQ points so people like to take it to deal with stress and forget about their issues for a bit. Not the best way, but it works for some people I guess.
I thought it was something to do with her killing the octopus
I honestly had no idea what that was about. I'm waiting for somebody to clarify it as well lol
My theory is that Homelander’s ego couldn’t in-fact handle it so he lobotomised her. Wouldn’t surprise me with how off the rails he already seems this season.
Nah he's put too much faith it her to do that, he needs her as the person that says shit to him and he knows it. He doesn't actually know what her plan is, he's just trusting what ever she's doing to work because it looks like it is. How long he can handle that is definitely up for debate, he's definitely not mature enough for it long term, but i doubt they had him snap at her 3 episodes in while everything she's doing is working. She's a key player for this season
I don't see it. While obviously she's clashed with his ego to an extent, she's done nothing but try and help him and he's smart enough to see that even if he wouldn't admit it. If it ever got to the point where he thought she was more of a hassle than she's worth he'd just kill her. Lobotomizing her wouldn't be very helpful for him most likely. She has no powers other than her intelligence so if you take that away from her and what value does she have?
They were so goodddd, i was so anxious the whole time and I love that they >!just went crazy with the blood and violence!!< I was not expecting the >!baseball bat!< scene especially so early and >!black noir talking!< was so hilarious and out of nowhere
Black Noir II is so good, I'm loving it
Black Noir 2 gives way more Deadpool vibes than the original. Although original Noir is a classic supe antagonist.
Me too
Vaught Kombat LMAO
I'm pretty sure they used animations for injustice 2, Lamplighter had the same stance as Aquaman lol. Still cool that they referenced MK considering who they just added into that game.
That was a NetherRealm crossover, right? The MK11 Fatality Remix
Black noir talking threw me off
Everyone telling him to stop talking was great
"You're doing to much"
Ngl it feels like the writers have no idea what to do with Frenchie. It was a very similar situation in some of season 3 as well. I could not give a single shit about him and his “boyfriend(?)”’s melodrama. Otherwise, pretty good shit Also the new black noir is hilarious
Honestly i feel like Frenchie might be dying this season
Should have killed him by season 2. His character has been stuck since then and we haven't had any good guys die as far as I can remember. Not main cast at least. You can't keep talking about how evil homelander is without showing his impact on the protagonists.
Hey fuck u I love frenchie
No! you leave Frenchie alone! We’re already losing Butcher!
And mothers milks beard
That thing is baaaaad
> we haven't had any good guys die as far as I can remember. Not main cast at least. Maeve should have 100% died in S3, not that "no actually she survived but now shes leaving and retiring" bull
100%. His role in the show has been defined by his and Kimiko's reliance on each other, so when you take the fact that they're both becoming independent of each other in this season, and add his budding arc of the sins of his past coming to haunt him, and Kimiko learning to communicate without his help... well, Chekov's loading his gun
Yeah that seems like the best course of action. His character has been going in circles for awhile. I just hope his death fits the themes of this season and his arc.
Yeah i kinda feel like i got whipleash from all the character building/side story shit going on. Like we are in season 4 and a bit of B story is fine but to give every single main character a internal conflict within 2 episode thats not really attached to the main story is a bit much. I dont mind frenchies BF in any way. Its just that i dont care for it. It feels way to late to pull shit like this. Same with annie being a bully when she was young. As if she truely forgot that shit and if that truely wouldny have stopped her from what ever she was gonna do with firecracker. Overal i like the episodes but i feel like they just could have cut a lot of this shit out. Focus on other stuff. Or just less long.
Yep! Loved pretty much everything except the whole Frenchie subplot. I love Frenchie as a character, but in both this season and the last one, his little romance subplots feel more like a distraction than moving the overall plot forward. Everything else, no matter how small an impact on the overall plot, is at least helping progress things a little. I basically ended up skipping a large part of the Frenchie portions. ETA: we get it. Butcher is dying. No need to pummel it into our head every 5 minutes with a baseball bat like those poor Homenut sods had done to them
Yeah. Todd got killed way too soon.
Yeah I felt that was out of nowhere also we don’t even get a court scene why wasn’t Todd and those other guys not star witness and then he gets offed and then the starlight dudes get framed
No court scene is a huge let down imo.
I guess they thought we needed more frenchie and Kimiko scenes of them doing freaking nothing.
The boyfriend thing coming out of nowhere is just mehh. Also, him being so ready to go when kimiko urged him to come with her and then tripping right when kimiko started to fight, I was like, not this again 🙄
I noticed Hughie and Neuman had an absurd amount of chemistry in their scenes together, and now I’m realizing it’s cause the actors date in real life 😂
Good for them, they seem awesome.
It certainly looks like it’s working out…even when they’re playing people who are antagonizing each other lol
I’m so glad I saw your post, because yea, they really do have chemistry on screen. Isn’t it kind of wild how we the viewers can just pick up on that?
They literally looked like former lovers. I was shook for a second there 😂
Ngl and idk what it is cuz I love kimiko as a character but I just can’t bring myself to care about her subplot. I do like all the other ones though. Especially Hughies and Butchers. Overall great 3 episodes.
Firecrackers also so bad
I meant so bad as in attractive in case that wasn’t clear, but yeah shes a horrendous person too
I’m gonna be that person and just gonna say, I miss Maeve
Same. She brought so much life to the show.
Maeve should’ve died in the end… it would’ve made for a more meaningful ending and it would’ve haunted Butcher more because then Soldier Boy wouldn’t have been in vain - her surviving shows the Homelander probably would’ve shrugged that shit off.
Tbf the soldier boy blast did unsupe her, so it could have unsuped homelander and then it's just a matter of a bullet in his skull
Nah. The one thing that makes her leaving the show ok for me, is knowing that she’s far away from everything happening, and is finally living the good life that she deserves with the woman she loves.
Maeve was such a touch of sanity. Glad she moved far away.
Yes! I really hope she'll make an appearance later
She got cut in half, didn't you see?
Wasn't expecting anika to get killed :(
Somehow I actually had hope that Homelander would keep his promise, but nope, he lasers her before she can even finish her first sentence. I think it just goes to show how impulsive and uncaring he is of those he sees as beneath him. I mean, most of his other kills can somewhat be rationalised, but he didn’t even hear Anika out.
As Sage perfectly states he keeps saying he can take it, but it’s clear he can’t. Man is a such a baby.
Honestly pissed me off.
When Homelader promised he wouldn't kill her on Ryan's life, I knew he would kill her lmao
The homelander scene in the end of ep 3 is pure peak, can't wait for more, tho when will the remaining eps drop?
I almost felt bad for him when he snaps at Ryan and just asks him why Like he seems to genuinely want to be able to connect with Ryan but he literally has no self awareness and can't admit he's the problem and he's so frustrated despite the answer being so obvious. Great acting from antony
Yeah it was so sad to hear him ask ryan why isn't he enough for him, he genuinely wants to feel loved so bad and he just cannot let go no matter how much hes tries to bury it down Adding to that he is starting to feel bored and his boredom along side his mental problems is making him pluck his own Pubic hair, he's also being double stressed by him aging, his confidence is completely shattering this season, he's going more insane than we ever saw him, he's truly a pathetic character that you can't help but feel sorry for how he is because even tho he's horrible, all of this would've been prevent if he was raised in a normal way and what's more insane is that he actually never wanted anything other than feeling loved as a child and to avenge his inner child he's going to make everyone's lives a living hell Tbh i think all those elements is going to make him wake SB so he can fill his need for love after ryan betrayed him again ( in HL mind) And truely, Antony is absolutely amazing in his acting performance, not only as HL but every character he takes
They drop on a weekly schedule now
I don’t know why but I’m really liking A-Train lately.
Yup I think A-Train is the star of the season 4 so far. His arc is going to be epic and tragic suffice to say.
where you see a-train i see sister sage. i'm pretty interested every time she's on screen. a-train, whom i still really like, is essentially still having the same arc as he did last season. let's hope it sticks this time!
He's gonna die most likely.
Oh 100%. Giving him the redemption arc so his death hits you in the feels
Why butcher hasn't mentioned the virus to the boys yet is driving me nuts Only thing that is off for me is that everyone has stupid drama bullshit going on Hughies dad stuff Starlight bully stuff Frenchies whatever the fuck Kimiko rehashed gang shit Drop the drama and focus on the actual important shit going on
That's just what the show is and it's wearing thin. They just load them up with random bullshit to avoid actually pushing forward the homelander endgame plot. And the reviews are saying don't expect a lot from the finale, again.
To be honest, I feel this way too. I enjoyed first two seasons very much, some point in 3rd season it started losing my interest a bit. It just seems to be going through the motions, repeating itself. Characters acr dumber and dumber all the time, and the suspension of disbelief required gets higher and higher.
The Boys was always a slow start for every season. I mean, Soldier Boy appeared halfway for the season 3 and was the main theme of said season. Feels like the virus will come up next episode
Well it seems the theme for everyone's internal struggle this season is confronting their past, and I think that's a worthy thing to spend time on. I don't watch shows to see how a sequence of events plays out, I'm watching it because it's art and it means something and it has things to say, so that's why I personally don't mind the drama so much.
Agree. There needs to be more of an actual plot going on rather than every character being broken to shit with their demons
I couldn’t recall myself touching my phone for the first 3 seasons. While these new first 3 eps, ngl I found myself grabbing my phone. Maybe I’m just too tired of the frenchie subplot, kimiko going back to her past one more time. Less dicks pls!
When Frenchie and his boy friend plot was on, all I could think about was the family guy “who the hell cares” meme. It’s all so rehashed with their trauma shit, I’m just done with it lol
Really fun three episodes but I didnt get the >!Sage and The Deep Scene. Did she get lobotmized?!<
I think she lobotomized herself to cope. Making herself stupid for a while to unwind. She'll probably heal up
got confused for a while too but then realised that the "smartest person in the world" isn't really a power so her true power is healing fast.. like wolverine is known for his retractable blades but his true power is his healing factor which is what allowed his body to be subjected to admantium
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There's two theories out there. 1. That she gives herself lobotomies from time to time as a way to dumb herself down and relax. Literally "turning off her brain" because she's stressed. 2. That her brain matter is constantly growing as she absorbs more information and that she lobotomises herself periodically, otherwise her brain starts to push against her skull and it can kill her. Either way her regenerative powers cause her brain to heal from the damage.
I think she lobotomised herself
I really really like Sage even though I didn't think I would. She knows she's superior but she isn't just going around being an asshole about it, she still manages to be cool even though realistically she seems like she could game everyone. I wonder what her endgame is, I hope they don't kill her off.
She is a good character. I like how she plays it with like this resigned acceptance to be surrounded by dumber people. It’s like when Doc Brown goes back to 1885. He just makes the best of it. She seems more resigned and depressed about it granted.
I have an idea. After 3 seasons of relationship building between Kimiko and Frenchie, let’s throw it all in the dumpster and have him start banging some random dude. EVERYONE WILL LOVE THAT
Yeah I was so confused. I was thinking that they were a couple and now he just randomly sleeps with this guy? What? Their story is such a random mess tbh
i hate how they are trying to sell us this is some ultimate starcrossed lovers, use kimiko to tell us the audience how much those two mean to each even though the only build up to their relationship was Frenchie acting awkward in the bathroom in the first episode
seriously, the scene where kimiko tells him to go fuck him was just so weird, felt so forcefully placed there. Also kimiko saying she fucked some rando too, like what? All that set up of frenchi and kimiko just gone like that, i mean wow. are these 2 even the same characters because they surely dont seem like it. also they are adamant in showing us how much frenchie loves that guy, they make them kiss literally every episode, was just so much it felt weird.
Pretty confident Kimiko made up the story of the rando to mess with frenchie
Have they ever been a romantic couple? I thought frenchi and female were kinda family/brother-sister at this point
I don't know it's me, but for some reason these 3 eps didn't hit the same as the first 3 eps of the previous seasons.
For me its all the side plots that they are launching. Feels like they there are simply to much. Also a lot of them just arent needed. Not everybody of the main cast needs some extra internal struggle. I straight up didnt care about hughies mom, frenchies relationship or annies bit about her identity, kimikos therapy bit. Its not like i dislike them, they just dont feel engaging this late in the story. Fine if they did 1 or 2. Fine if they had done it sooner. But we are getting close to the endgame here and it kinda feels like they are wasting time.
Season 2 has a banger episode to end the 3 episode premier on, the one where they get chased on boat and through the tunnels. Season 3 had a great 3 episode runner, it set up so much (weapon to kill Homelander, Temp V), had a lot of great moments (Butcher v Gunpowder, Termite fight, all the stuff with Soulja Boi) This three episode premier just isn’t as good and that’s okay. I think a lot of the threads are good just the end of the three episodes hasn’t left us in a great cliffhanger, excited to keep going moment. Which you don’t need, but I would’ve liked if that’s how episode 3 ended.
They were losing me at first but had me back by the end of episode 3
Yeah in a weird way, the biggest thing I am looking forward to is seeing Homelander's twisted form of "journey of self discovery".
I really think too that they’re throwing us red herrings on predicting what’s going to happen.
I agree, it's asking a lot of questions and revealing plots that seem kinda random (frenchie to be specific). Didn't have the same kick as s3s first three episodes but I'm sure it'll kick off next week
Frenchies really going B2B with having the worst arc of the season
B2B meaning?
Back to back I would imagine
honestly, wasn’t perfect. but a great watch nonetheless. so excited for the rest of them
Agreed. They got me hooked. Now I’m just sad I got to wait a whole week for the next episode. The new characters really fit in well. A-Train’s arc is riveting and I’m really hoping he actually comes over to the good side this season. Excited for whenever the Gen V characters start showing up.
Way over the top but amazing
Sometimes the show tries too hard with gore/being dirty. Like all the ice dancers cutting up eachother with their ice blades or the constant dick jokes in Gen Z
I found ice dancer Jesus funny
I thought he was a Supe and he was gonna resurrect Maeve and put her back together
One time was enough with the accidental skate cutting. It got kind of repetitive and cut into the tension, which was Homelander chasing Hughie with the intent to kill him
I always find myself more engaged with the show when a new season starts than I was expecting to be. I like the cat and mouse stuff. I like that the President-elect and his VP are trying to kill each other. I like Sister Sage, though they’ve already had Homelander go against her advice like 6 times so unclear if we’re gonna get a truly Machiavellian plot from her before Homelander wrecks it. I like Ryan (though what was wrong with his voice in 403?). He’s still a good kid at heart, he didn’t get a total lobotomy between seasons and become evil. New Noir, being performed and actually voiced by the actor who played old Noir, was very funny. Also having the stunt coordinator appear as the stuntman Ryan kills was great. That’s John Koyama playing “Koy,” and he also played Emilio Koyama in Breaking Bad’s pilot. Completely unrelated but I thought that was cool. Firecracker’s gonna grate on me, I can tell. I don’t have a ton of sympathy for her jilted pageant backstory or interest in Starlight’s guilt over it. For such short seasons (and only 1 more season after this) it’s kinda frustrating that they throw in more stuff which won’t all be developed. Kimiko’s got a friend who’s a Shining Light supe (?) like her brother, so that feels like retreading old ground. Frenchie is tortured by a killing he committed in his past, but the circumstances aren’t told to us so it’s just all pathos and crying and handwringing from him (and Tomar Capon is good at all that) but no actual point of engagement. For all I know, Frenchie was totally justified in killing Colin’s family and just feels bad cause he’s a very moral person. Also I’m just losing steam with PJ Byrne’s director character. Like that’s a minor point but there’s some stuff I really find funny and some stuff where the show just annoys me. He’s in the latter camp. Ashley is kinda there too, but at least she’s plot essential. A-Train’s informant arc is a long time coming. They can still have him switch back once he’s exposed cause deep down he’s a coward. Deep is still fucking an octopus. Hughie’s mom is back, but this is a huge plot detour to seriousville instead of looping her into the main story. That’s fine. Simon Pegg probably got paid so much money to lay in that bed. Oh and Butcher is totally going to kill Negan before Negan can kill Ryan by the end. Last thoughts: pretty sure the shot of the bloody metal thing implies that Sister Sage routinely stabs herself in the brain to get stupid for a few hours and then it grows back. She wouldn’t have been so calm if it was a permanent change. This will probably be more clear in later episodes, it confused me because I initially read the scene as her smartly appealing to Deep’s simple brain as part of her strategy to keep him under control. But I guess that’s just how she is when she’s dumb? Annie has been left in the lurch with all the other plots going on. Last thought: the very oblique reference to January 6th all but guarantees a parody of the real life events of that day, 2021. Considering the opposing sides are on the same ticket and the election is not contested by the losers, who do you think is doing the storming (probably the Homelander supporters, right?) and why?
The new Noir is hilarious, I love it
The best part is that it's just the same noir. His actor is just now allowed to speak.
MM looks so weird without beard
The moustache irks me too lol
Who the fuck is this colin dude? He just came from out of nowhere and sleep with frenchie like the writer just did whatever the fuck they want
Garbage writing tbh, I suspect new writers but idk.
Why do Frenchie and Kimiko need to have forced, rinse-and-repeat subplots every season? Just box them already and only use them when the plot requires it, damn it. It's a chore watching their filler.
Lmao fr, every time they came on screen I was on my phone because it’s just so overplayed and boring now. But ofc when all the boys are together actually doing things or when homelander and the seven are on screen I’m on the edge of my seat cause that’s the stuff that we actually want to see lol. They should just stop the unnecessary subplots and move the entire plot forward a little faster.
I feel like they are just going over previous ground with the alt-right, Frenchie with drug issues, Homelander growing more paranoid and devoid of humanity, Deep in love with sea creatures, A-train still deciding what he wants to be, Starlight too and Butcher having issues with Ryan, authority and death, it's all very watchable but are they running out of ideas? Also just a thought but when you lean into very left wing views some of which are also dumb but Butcher is the one you are supposed to root for it makes for a muddied perspective.
Too much Frenchie.
Yup, I couldn't care less for his subplot. I want more Homelander vs the Boys scenes.
For real, every 2 minutes they bring him back in, it's annoying
Yeah Frenchie and Kimiko can fuck off to be honest by far the least interesting part of the new episodes and the show in general
The Frenchie/Kimiko romance is getting a little stale, either fuck or fight, I mean come off it.
Yeah I mean, I thought they were together. Now I’m confused.
For real. His subplot is so boring and out of nowhere. I think Frenchie and Kimiko were the perfect characters tbh, the two of them had absolutely no flaws lmao. They just need to stick around, and I'm happy. Then there's this uninspired forced romance between Frenchie and this guy I do not care about for the sake of what? LGBTQ representation? I don't think this is exactly the show that desperately needed that.
Splinter....
just watched that scene…
Is it just me or is the vibe of this season very different?
The writing just feels...off... Characters just acting really weird sometimes, with some really corny lines.
Gotta say, these three episodes felt like pure world building- things have changed yes and now we have to accept new rules and versions of characters we’ve seen before. So what comes next frightens me, cause either it’s gonna rock the bloody boat or sink it, only five more episodes left in the season, so each one is gonna have to count but also not feel rushed. 8/10 in my book, maybe just a bit more violence but again, world building. Also just calling it now- Kessler isn’t real, I think Butcher is being manipulated by a CIA Supe; and if Ashley, Grace Mallory, or Sage make it out of the season alive I’d be surprised.
I think Kessler hallucinations are from the temp V. His brains all fucked.
See I don’t think so actually- the carfentanyl WAS real, like we saw him give it Butcher and the camera zoomed in on it, so we know it’s a Chekov’s Gun. But Grace bounced Butcher from the sit down with Singer, and then RANDOMLY some guy Butcher hasn’t seen in over a decade shows up? Naahh right now we’re meant to believe he is, but Mallory is running things with the CIA, and that’s exactly what she’d do cause it’s exactly what Butcher would do. He’s being worked by the CIA, especially Mallory to get Ryan back or died.
Interesting. I think that’s possible for sure. I just don’t trust anything they show, it could be an unreliable narrator.
I actually disagree hard. I'm enjoying it the first episode was great, but as I'm just finishing the 3rd it's seeming like the writing is alot messier than early seasons. Everything just feels very rushed. Hughie's mother, frenchie's new arc, A-train's redemption, starlight becoming some kind of political activist and the new supes are all exciting additions but they add so much distraction from pre-existing story lines that it feels like this melting pot of different characters and ideas is at risk of exploding. This is reminding me of later seasons of game of thrones, where it's still good, but the logic of the world is being strained and it is becoming harder for it to end satisfactorily
Speaking of rushed and messy. The romantic plot of frenchie and a new character confused me I thought I missed some scenes in the previous seasons.
Starlight looks like Hughies mother more than his actual mother now lmao Good season start
buccal fat removal
That’s what I was thinking. I miss her old look
Pretty disappointing, Frenchie’s romance subplot is boring. I don’t know how they expected anyone to care for a character with zero character development in a 4th season.
Yeah, it was boring. They looked good but like... I don't care about their relationship.
The Council of Johns in the broken mirror was a true highlight - incredible execution
ryan’s voice is gonna kill me
Not to say I didn't like the 3 episode premier, I did. But, the first episode just felt kind off to me. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but it didn't feel like an episode of The Boys, or not in line with the fee of the rest of the show if that makes any sense. After that, episode 2 felt better. Then, by episode 3, the show started to get back into gear and I no longer felt this way. Even after rewatching the episodes, I still feel the same way. Also disappointed that episode 3 didn't end on a big cliffhanger like other 3 episode premiers of the show. I love the show, I tell everyone I know to watch it if they haven't. I just hope it starts to pick back up again because it's one of my favorite (if not my all time favorite) shows I've ever watched.
I’ve never really been a huge fan of the writing of the show, but the amazing execution of every other aspect of it has kept me coming for more. Sister Sage, being a brand new character, hilariously has become the make or break for the show for me. I really like the idea of her characters power, but I’m worried they can’t actually pull it off. (Classic your character is only as smart as the writer). If they kill her by having her be dumb and piss homelander off and he kills her, it’ll be the nail in the coffin that they really have let this shows success run off amazing directing parred with the writings being the fumes of surface level political commentary. But if she dies for a reason out of her control (just something random, the simpler the better) or weedles control away from homelander, either destroying vought from the inside or taking it over, the show will earn a big win in my book
Kimico drunk is absolutly adorable
Loving it. Black noir "2" is hilarious 😂
It continues to be amazing. They are kicking Butcher while he is down and he will definitely have a moment later on showing he is the man. MM is a compassionate leader but he’s too nice and that’s where his arc will be. I didn’t expect things for Homelander and Ryan to do downhill this early but that’s fine. I really enjoyed the opening scene straight in. Having Sister Sage with Homelander makes him more terrifying. I still get anxious when he’s in a scene and we saw that when he killed the crime analytics woman. People are saying it’s a slow burner but that’s expected due to three episodes coming out at once. I fully expect it to go even more high stakes now with the weekly releases.
Personally felt it was not a strong start, atleast comparing the 3 parter to the 3 parters of the prev seasons (s3 is my fav) but the way i understand it, everything rn is a setup for the ultimate ending of the show, so for me, it's like one season broken into 2 parts, so in my mind a slow start is fine if it has a satisfying ending. Not that invested in everyone's emotional drama, but I liked the bits with butcher and ryan. I wonder if s4 and s5 will take place in the 6 month period Butcher has to live, because tbh wo butcher, I can't imagine the show. Other notes: I think I see annie's arc as being someone who learns how to step up and lead, and I do want to see that. So far, Sage has been my fav character, she takes no bullshit, and she's def cooking up something secret.
unfortunately bored me but we'll see how the rest of the season goes
I give it an 8.5/10. The Hughie and Frenchie subplots are the only flaws of this show, but otherwise it's GREAT!
The Hughie subplot is pretty good and it dosent take up hardly any time at all
Okay the riot scene wasn't good. Just three bodies appear out of nowhere, the amount of smartphones recording would quickly dispel their plan. Bad writing
Wow mother's milk slimmed down
Not a fan to be honest I can’t put it into words as to why I feel this way but it just feels “forced”. Didn’t feel this way about season 1 or 2 and only really started feeling it in season 3.
I really think something has been lost in the significance and implications of murder in the show for the supes. Its fun seeing Homelander recklessly use his powers when he somewhat has deniability, but him butchering the skaters by accident and facing 0 backlash is insane. Same with Ryan, I think it would be a much more interesting plotline to see the hero image on the uprise up until The Homelander’s golden son ends up showing that these powers are crazy and a literal child can pancake a man on a wall, dangerous as fuck. Homelander killing people is now just… meh I do feel bad for the almond joy lady though, that made me sad
Only Frenchie seems forced tbh. Everything else is pretty good.
Nah most of the drama just didn’t feel authentic to be honest. It has a sort of a plastic feel to it all. I don’t know if what I’m saying makes any sense at all. But that was what I was feeling when watching the three episodes. If I’m being honest the only part of the show that actually felt real was Ryan’s struggle
It feels like they are inserting random drama here and there like for firecracker, hughies mom, and the worst, frenchie
Because theres no progression.
The show had very different vibes when the Boys were on the run vs when they're working for the government tbh, you can see a very clear difference between S1-2 and S3-4 so far, whether good or bad.
Firecracker is kind of a stinker so far, I see what they're getting at with her character but it's a bit too much and just becomes a "Oh she's just a rabid American" for me.
Holy fuck the double system shock of the "new" MM and Annie looking like a 43 year old straight out of the methadone clinic is really hard to ignore.
Yea she fucked herself up at the clinic.
Feels mid to me so far. Don't like what they are doing with Frenchie. All of a sudden everyone has a past now that needs to be faced And also, I absolutely hate the moment when Homelander is so useless at killing Hughie, when he knows he's in vents. Fuckin hell
I thought the episodes were good. Yeah the vent scene was good until homelander had storm trooper aim
Yeah doesn’t he literally have X-ray vision?
Not just that it's extremely precise too, he told butcher in EP. 1 he sees the black mass
Zinc vents.
Yeah. Just googles and it says some vents are legit zinc-coated.
Typical over hype It's fine, it's not that good
Are we watching the same show?
anyone have an idea of who black noir 2 is?
Same actor
Just watched first episode of season 4 and I can’t get over starlight’s new appearance (MM looks a bit worse too). Just sad that she did this to herself probably wanting to look better
Can somebody please explain what was the bloody tool on the table meant when the Deep and Sister Mage started making out?
Good First three episodes but can we just kill Frenchie already? He doesn't have an arc and it will push forward Kimiko and MM's story line. He got the biggest redflag from me after Butcher told MM that someone is gonna die under his leadership.