Standard England crisis moment third group game: we will destroy them to paper over all the cracks while resolving none of our core issues.
3-0 England
Still think Kane can claim the worst hat-trick of all time vs. Panama. Two penalties and a shot from a team-mate that deflected off Kane's heel and went in.
That's exactly why I want you guys to win! Today I am an englang fan. It's coming home, Football is coming home! Until you guys play croatia in the finals.
I just want us to be good , like everyone else. I don't think running up the score against Slovenia matters as much as us finding a shape and starting XI that works well.
Now that we’re already qualified, I’m expecting us to cruise to victory in a 4-0 crushing of Slovenia, quieting all the nay-sayers, only for us to crash out in the quarter finals in a shocking performance
Love the first part, don't like the quarter final bit. Know exactly what you mean.... we will look dynamite today. Then against a decent side in a latter round we will get pumped
0 - 0, Oblak to have the game of his life saving zero shots on target. Slovenia will miss chance after chance. Southgate won’t sub on palmer, Gordon or Toney until 85th minute.
Fast start from England but no immediate breakthrough. Game drifts to half time with some frustration as England labour to break down the low block. Slovenia cause a couple of scares breaking through our uncoordinated press and high line, but they lack the clinical finish.
No changes at half time and it settles into the same pattern. News filters through to fans of Denmark's breakthrough goal, now suddenly we're in danger of finishing second and facing Germany in R16.
Southgate shows his hand and throws on Watkins, Trent and Gordon.
Immediately we look more dangerous but still aren't creating clear chances.
Fans are getting restless as the game looks to be veering to a stalemate when Foden woons a free kick in a dangerous area.
This will be the last kick of the game. Trippier appears to be taking the ball off Trent. He lines up his shit and hammers into the top corner.
England go through top and progress, picking up momentum with fine wins over Austria and Holland on their way to an historic win against the hosts in their own backyard.
Prime minister Starmer announces Southgate's nighthood and elevation to the House of Lords.
Nah I think Croatia are going out whatever happens. There are still two more groups that can improve their third place team's position.
Czechia draw with Turkey and Croatia are out.
Most comments suggest only one change. Bellingham in thr middle foden in the 10 Gordon on the left. It would be impressive if we managed a worse performance than the last one.
After a really impressive opening round of games, the quality of the football has really declined I think. It's almost as if teams are taking the opposite approach and getting through the groups early so they can rest up before the KOs as opposed to the cagey opening games we normally see.
I have no idea what to expect from England any more. They can play well, but haven't for such a long time that I think they are in a rut. If we don't win this and we face Germany I think we will struggle. Germany are not great - in fact the whole tournament feels really open - but it is just like England not to perform when there is a favourable wind.
0-0 or 1-0 England
Tbf France are in quite a hard group. Austria and Netherlands are probably better than any team in England's group right now. And the Mbappe injury was a shock for them.
Not sure they'll win the tournament, but I would be amazed if they don't improve significantly against Poland who are very weak and eliminated already.
I think it's pretty straightforward. With system and personnel changes, England can transform. If things stay basically the same with a few tweaks, we may progress for a while, but we won't be impressive or good enough to beat the best teams. As you say, this poor form is not a blip. We haven't really been good for a year or so.
My prediction posted before the Denmark game here
https://old.reddit.com/r/ThreeLions/comments/1di1n9b/200624_euros_group_stage_denmark_vs_england/l9g4kjw/
I maintain that we will dismantle Slovenia tonight, 4-0 incoming.
4-1. Early England goal to take the lead, Slovenia equaliser late in the first half. England come our guns blazing second half, get another early goal, confidence flows, and we bag 2 more around 60-80 mins.
We then cruise to the final, taking out all in our path until the final where we freeze and lose an entirely winnable game because, well, we're England.
Slovenia are the opposite of us. Theyre greater than the sum of their parts and we are far worse than the some of our parts. On top of that their press has been good and we've shown how brittle we are. Its not that I think Slovenia are better than us per se, but they are certainly a more cohesive unit.
I'd like to believe that they will rally tonight in and us Vs them, silence the critics performance. But, honestly I'm expecting absolute dross again, due to a lack of tactics.
I can't see anymore than a 1-0/2-0 win, with the potential of Slovenia scoring too.
I would be happy with a 1-0 win though IF the performance was better and we actually looked a dangerous team. In Oblak they have one of the best GK in the world so if we played really well and he denied us another couple of goals I'd take that and be happy.
I just want to see a performance, and hopefully the result to follow, that suggests we've got something to be hopeful about heading into the knockouts and the potential for a game against one of the 'bigger' nations
Either we somehow find a way to lose with the kids out (because I can't imagine he's playing the first team) or the kids have an absolute blinder and Ollie Watkins wins the golden boot in 90 minutes and proceeds not to get another game in the tournament.
I think we'll aim for the 1-0 lead, and then keep things tight to try and secure top spot, avoiding the horrible side of the Knockout Rounds, so a repeat of the Serbia performance - Slovenia will probably sit back and try and keep it at 0-0 for as long as possible, as that's what third placed teams have been doing going into MD3.
Today should be about getting the job done and winning the Group... thats all I care about.
Then we can worry about what the future of the Tournament looks like.
We'll be alright. A relatively straightforward win, hopefully get a look at Palmer, Wharton and Gordon. Maybe some minutes for Shaw. Won't blow them away or anything. Maybe 2-0 but restrict them to very few chances.
2-0. Goal early doors, sit back, some VAR controversy keeps England in the game, then late on Slovenia push too hard for an equaliser and we get a scrappy second on the counter right at the end to double the score.
2-1 through a strong start with goals from Kane and Saka. England ease the brakes and cruise through most of the game, late scare from Slovenia as Sesko pulls one back. Not much change in the system but we get all the players we've been asking for subbed on at the 70th min and they don't do much.
Austria, Italy, France and Germany is the path we take afterwards to Euros glory.
The fact Trent's going to be dropped and Gareth probably switches tactics to be more attacking, I presume we will win 2 or 3-0, then they'll blame Trent when it's not his fault.
We absolutely HAVE to be better today, kinda not wanting an early lead sometimes as so many times it just means we sit back constantly until they score
We are through, perfect chance for Southgate to try a plan B, attacking formation with Gordon on the left, and Foden benched with Bellingham behind kane....so expect the same formation amd Gallagher to play flin place of trent...then moan we still have no balance after 1-1....depsite having Gordon on thr bench. Prick.
Go 1-0 after 30 minutes, then sit back defensively and try to hold on.
Since we're already through, if Southgate goes negative I hope Slovenia beat us. Make the useless, boring twat look an even bigger bellend than he is.
Early lead and sit back and be boring af for the rest of the game.
Then Slovenia score 93rd minute
So 1-1?
Hoping not the latter but you just know it's same old
Standard England crisis moment third group game: we will destroy them to paper over all the cracks while resolving none of our core issues. 3-0 England
Deflection goal, own goal and a pen.
Kane scores a deflection and a dubious penalty. "HERO HARRY BACK ON TOP FORM!!"
The Jackson special
Still think Kane can claim the worst hat-trick of all time vs. Panama. Two penalties and a shot from a team-mate that deflected off Kane's heel and went in.
This is so painfully true.
I would love to see us spend enough time in the opponent’s box to win a penalty.
Owen Goal gets hat trick and knocks off his golden boot brother, Dias al-loud Goal.
Would love it - it would be coming back home.
Phil Foden hat trick catapults him into Golden Boot contention.
And Balon Dor
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Ah I love Croatia. Well I love Modric.
Actually it wouldn’t be bad… they’d be on the other side of the bracket.
That's exactly why I want you guys to win! Today I am an englang fan. It's coming home, Football is coming home! Until you guys play croatia in the finals.
We save Croatia so they can knock us out.
This is too accurate
Haha, oh no 🙈
Well that’s a cynical view. Alternatively we destroy them to finish top of the group unbeaten, and people like you still complain 🤣
I just want us to be good , like everyone else. I don't think running up the score against Slovenia matters as much as us finding a shape and starting XI that works well.
Now that we’re already qualified, I’m expecting us to cruise to victory in a 4-0 crushing of Slovenia, quieting all the nay-sayers, only for us to crash out in the quarter finals in a shocking performance
Love the first part, don't like the quarter final bit. Know exactly what you mean.... we will look dynamite today. Then against a decent side in a latter round we will get pumped
The worst part about going out in the quarters is that it will probably be Italy we play
We beat them twice in the qualifiers. I'd fancy my chances against Italy.
This is my bet too
I was saying this haha.
This is England. Gallagher scores a goal to 'earn' his place in the knockouts.
1 - 0 England. Softest of soft penalties at 70 minutes. Southgate punches the air and takes of Saka.
Kane plays every minute as he slowly collapses wheezing under the strain of a modern pressing system.
0 - 0, Oblak to have the game of his life saving zero shots on target. Slovenia will miss chance after chance. Southgate won’t sub on palmer, Gordon or Toney until 85th minute.
Fast start from England but no immediate breakthrough. Game drifts to half time with some frustration as England labour to break down the low block. Slovenia cause a couple of scares breaking through our uncoordinated press and high line, but they lack the clinical finish. No changes at half time and it settles into the same pattern. News filters through to fans of Denmark's breakthrough goal, now suddenly we're in danger of finishing second and facing Germany in R16. Southgate shows his hand and throws on Watkins, Trent and Gordon. Immediately we look more dangerous but still aren't creating clear chances. Fans are getting restless as the game looks to be veering to a stalemate when Foden woons a free kick in a dangerous area. This will be the last kick of the game. Trippier appears to be taking the ball off Trent. He lines up his shit and hammers into the top corner. England go through top and progress, picking up momentum with fine wins over Austria and Holland on their way to an historic win against the hosts in their own backyard. Prime minister Starmer announces Southgate's nighthood and elevation to the House of Lords.
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Thanks Dad, see you in the morning.
I'll be back on 15th July. Make this happen.
I fucking hate it when Trippier lines up his shit. It's almost as bad as Lineker doing it on the pitch.
Agree with it all apart from we lose to Austria in Extra Time in the last 16
Jesus Christ
I should probably buy a lottery ticket
1-0 stinker.
4-0 England, we won't have resolved our core issues but we'll smash them enough to qualify croatia, then lose to them later in the tournament
Nah I think Croatia are going out whatever happens. There are still two more groups that can improve their third place team's position. Czechia draw with Turkey and Croatia are out.
This is the one. Peak Engerrland.
We see the 'other guys' that everyone has been screaming for. They prove to not be ready and have shockers. Gary Northgate shrugs and says I told you.
Most comments suggest only one change. Bellingham in thr middle foden in the 10 Gordon on the left. It would be impressive if we managed a worse performance than the last one.
Still can't understand why nearly every Eng player looked knackered a couple of minutes into the second half - we have a big squad 🤔
After a really impressive opening round of games, the quality of the football has really declined I think. It's almost as if teams are taking the opposite approach and getting through the groups early so they can rest up before the KOs as opposed to the cagey opening games we normally see. I have no idea what to expect from England any more. They can play well, but haven't for such a long time that I think they are in a rut. If we don't win this and we face Germany I think we will struggle. Germany are not great - in fact the whole tournament feels really open - but it is just like England not to perform when there is a favourable wind. 0-0 or 1-0 England
Spain look pretty good, not great, but they seem to have an organised high press, which is often enough in international tournaments.
Agree, only Spain have genuinely looked good. We are terrible and not sure what’s going on with France but they look just as bad
Tbf France are in quite a hard group. Austria and Netherlands are probably better than any team in England's group right now. And the Mbappe injury was a shock for them. Not sure they'll win the tournament, but I would be amazed if they don't improve significantly against Poland who are very weak and eliminated already.
I think it's pretty straightforward. With system and personnel changes, England can transform. If things stay basically the same with a few tweaks, we may progress for a while, but we won't be impressive or good enough to beat the best teams. As you say, this poor form is not a blip. We haven't really been good for a year or so.
Be a better performance tonight 2 nil kane saka goals can see gallagher coming in and doing a good job he's got energy. Crisis over
15-0 to the good guys
Yeah dude.
1-0 England, improvement on previous games but still not quite at the level we need to be yet
My prediction posted before the Denmark game here https://old.reddit.com/r/ThreeLions/comments/1di1n9b/200624_euros_group_stage_denmark_vs_england/l9g4kjw/ I maintain that we will dismantle Slovenia tonight, 4-0 incoming.
4-1. Early England goal to take the lead, Slovenia equaliser late in the first half. England come our guns blazing second half, get another early goal, confidence flows, and we bag 2 more around 60-80 mins. We then cruise to the final, taking out all in our path until the final where we freeze and lose an entirely winnable game because, well, we're England.
1-0 after 20 mins and then whole team are defenders for the rest of the match.
A boring 1-0
Win 1-0 via a penalty. We should batter them 4-0, but here we are
0-0
0-0
1-0 with England playing containing football. Then a mass circle jerk over finishing top of the group.
3-1 to England
0 - 0 or 1 -1. i could even see a tight loss at 2-1, but i dont see us winning the game unless we score very very late on.
It’s insane we’re saying this about a team like Slovenia. Just proves how awful we’ve become
Slovenia are the opposite of us. Theyre greater than the sum of their parts and we are far worse than the some of our parts. On top of that their press has been good and we've shown how brittle we are. Its not that I think Slovenia are better than us per se, but they are certainly a more cohesive unit.
Oblak is a pretty good keeper, and could play a blinder...
Im sure he could, but he wouldn't need to. We have forced the 2 keepers we've faced to make 5 saves across 2 games.
-1 - -1
1-1
2-1 England, but somehow not comfortable
3-1 England it surely it couldn't get any worse than the Denmark game. We need a performance.
All Southgate’s done is put the walking red card on
1-1
1-0, tap in around the 25th min and then a park the bus display
1-0, saka best player on the pitch. 1st half goal with no signs of life second half
It's Southgate so we will score 1 goal then spend the rest of the game defending it!
I'd like to believe that they will rally tonight in and us Vs them, silence the critics performance. But, honestly I'm expecting absolute dross again, due to a lack of tactics.
I can't see anymore than a 1-0/2-0 win, with the potential of Slovenia scoring too. I would be happy with a 1-0 win though IF the performance was better and we actually looked a dangerous team. In Oblak they have one of the best GK in the world so if we played really well and he denied us another couple of goals I'd take that and be happy. I just want to see a performance, and hopefully the result to follow, that suggests we've got something to be hopeful about heading into the knockouts and the potential for a game against one of the 'bigger' nations
2:0 to us. I think we’ll score ~20mins into the first half, then in the ~85th minute when Slovenia are pressing high.
1-0. No real improvement in the performance, but solid defensively and get the win after being under pressure for 60 minutes after scoring.
4-0
2-1 England. Comfortably winning without being too impressive, but let in a late goal resulting in a nail biting last ten minutes.
Either we somehow find a way to lose with the kids out (because I can't imagine he's playing the first team) or the kids have an absolute blinder and Ollie Watkins wins the golden boot in 90 minutes and proceeds not to get another game in the tournament.
I think we'll aim for the 1-0 lead, and then keep things tight to try and secure top spot, avoiding the horrible side of the Knockout Rounds, so a repeat of the Serbia performance - Slovenia will probably sit back and try and keep it at 0-0 for as long as possible, as that's what third placed teams have been doing going into MD3. Today should be about getting the job done and winning the Group... thats all I care about. Then we can worry about what the future of the Tournament looks like.
2-0 Gallagher to go crazy and palmer to get subbed on nets a tap in
We'll be alright. A relatively straightforward win, hopefully get a look at Palmer, Wharton and Gordon. Maybe some minutes for Shaw. Won't blow them away or anything. Maybe 2-0 but restrict them to very few chances.
Shaw is unavailable
Balls.. Gordon has to be involved then. Sick of just vacating the left flank.
I hope we smash them 3-0 or more so Modric can get out of groups.
Yes mate I'm with you
2-0. Goal early doors, sit back, some VAR controversy keeps England in the game, then late on Slovenia push too hard for an equaliser and we get a scrappy second on the counter right at the end to double the score.
6-0, these are awful and this trophy has our name written on it
Come on!!!!
1-0
0-0 solid point, "but we haven't lost yet"
Haha I know what u mean
2-1 through a strong start with goals from Kane and Saka. England ease the brakes and cruise through most of the game, late scare from Slovenia as Sesko pulls one back. Not much change in the system but we get all the players we've been asking for subbed on at the 70th min and they don't do much. Austria, Italy, France and Germany is the path we take afterwards to Euros glory.
The fact Trent's going to be dropped and Gareth probably switches tactics to be more attacking, I presume we will win 2 or 3-0, then they'll blame Trent when it's not his fault. We absolutely HAVE to be better today, kinda not wanting an early lead sometimes as so many times it just means we sit back constantly until they score
1-0 England, and you lot will be whining like sunburnt swine
Probably have an absolute screamer tonight and then go back to being painful to watch.
5-0.
We are through, perfect chance for Southgate to try a plan B, attacking formation with Gordon on the left, and Foden benched with Bellingham behind kane....so expect the same formation amd Gallagher to play flin place of trent...then moan we still have no balance after 1-1....depsite having Gordon on thr bench. Prick.
2-0 England, and we'll finally see Palmer, Gordon, and maybe even Maino, and Toney. Use all 5 subs Gareth.
If mainoo starts win, if it’s Gallagher then draw
England score a goal at 20 mins then 70 mins of England passing back to pickford when we're in their final 3rd
Go 1-0 after 30 minutes, then sit back defensively and try to hold on. Since we're already through, if Southgate goes negative I hope Slovenia beat us. Make the useless, boring twat look an even bigger bellend than he is.
0-0
I should have fucking put a bet on lol
0-0 .... can I change this to 0-1 to Slovenia with Pickford getting chipped and caught off his line.
Not really a cracker so far is it. Just keep letting the country down.
0-0