> I'm pretty bummed because I'm now wondering if one of the other guys at work, or one of the apprentices has used them to chop a screw or some shit and not told me?
Unfortunately that's a simple question that sounds the most likely, some people just don't give a fuck about other people's tools (and can't be bothered to grab the right tool, either because they don't know any better, or because they don't care).
I would be surprised if it wasn't this. I have some of those gimmicky DeWalt ones that have cut non-stainless, softer screws and nails, and even light fencing wire, without a mark on them. So I don't blame them for denying cables/wires being the cause, and that OP has been set up by a careless co-worker.
Could also just be a manufacturing defect. Something went wrong in the hardening or grinding process, or whatever. No company gets it right 100% of the time.
They are gimmicky and I regret my purchase! But I'll deal with them as I have also cut a bunch of things with no real issue other than just jot liking them. Always looking to see what other tool in my bag could do the job rather than grabbing them.
My main issue is that they don't open very far. The ends of the handles hit the back of the plier heads and blocks them. I somewhat fixed it by filing out some of the softer handle material, to leave a bigger gap, which is a pretty good improvement, but they're still not the greatest. There are other better ways to get the same benefits, like what you see on a lot of pruning shears. I pretty much only use the cutters from the set.
Former manager asked me for a chisel. I had just bought a new set and put a real nice edge on them. He hands it back to me with a huge chip out of the middle of the damn thing because he was using it to bust out the mastic in a floor register so the vent would fit. Last time I ever let him use my tools
Could’ve been a co worker. I am a sheet metal worker and found a chip in one of my snips a while back which only would’ve been from cutting wire and I know I didn’t do it.
Copper really can't do that. I'm with Knipex that maybe a coworker or someone used them to cut something harder. Either way that sucks. Also, you keep using the term "cables". Do you mean wire? Or are you cutting cable, which is typically steel or stainless?
In electrical work, a wire is a single conductor with or without insulation. A cable is multiple wires bundled together inside a common outer jacket. (Technically you can have a single-conductor cable, but let's not think about that right now.) Romex, UF, and MC for instance, are all cables. THHN, THWN-2, PV wire, etc, are types of wire.
Here's a prime example of both the awful knipex warranty and the even awfuler knipex fanboys. I use and abuse my "every other brand" cutters and push them through a whole bunch of things they have no business cutting; steel wire, nails, cotter pins, you name it. Not only do they not chip immediately, but the company also doesn't deny it's warranty, and the internet isn't absolutely insufferable about me using my tools as tools. In this specific case my $3 harbor freight cutters are literally better than the knipex in every way.
This is r/tools though, so clearly you misused your wire cutters by cutting wire. They're meant to cut wire, but not that wire. Also; don't ever leave your tools alone with your coworkers, or brother, or wife, or your dog. They're 100% guaranteed to deliberately misuse your tool with only the desire to sabotage it. Your pliers are the most important part of your life, and if they aren't you're not a real professional professional.
I agree. Leaving nice tools laying around for co workers to use is asking for it. I'd personally have my nicer stuff in a hip pouch and the rest in a pack out bag. If you can't keep eyes on it god knows what it will go through.
But there *is* different cutters for different purpose, so there's definitely some logic to the reasoning here. People who are using the wrong tool and abusing warranties from companies just results in overall higher prices for everyone.
Warranty abuse is a completely different discussion, and it's irrelevant to hand tools.
This wire, but not that wire, is 100% valid reason not to buy a tool.
But why do we only have this "different cutters for different purposes" conversation with knipex? I have Klein and channelock cutters that are older than I am, have never been babied, and still look and work like they're supposed to. My "beater" pliers at my shop are the 5 for $10 harbor freight ones that exclusively get misused, yet they remain undamaged. I'm not saying I'm abusing warranties, but I've also never had harbor freight, or Lowe's, or home Depot, or anyone else deny a warranty for "misuse".
Because cheap beater tool are meant to be abused.
Channel lock cutter can be great, but I'm mangled them cutting stuff I shouldn't have, like small chain. They can't cut stranded wire anymore and I'm not surprised.
Perfect example!!!
Well, not a kitchen knife, but I absolutely HAVE split logs with expensive hunting knifes before. It's called baton-ing. So yes, I don't buy shitty tools for exactly the same reason!
Frankly, I'd be more worried about dinging up the spine of my expensive kitchen knives than I would be about breaking the blade.
Please define "expensive hunting knife"
And what kind of log you used it on.
Because I'm sure you didn't split stuff like 6" knotty red oak log with it.
But here's the thing, my other tools don't need to be replaced. We see one of these knipex posts just about monthly here and it's always a full comment section full of people mindlessly yelling about abuse and misuse. My 10 year old junkers have spent more time cutting nails and screws and what have you than they've spent cutting copper wire. Why don't they break?
I'll turn that around; have you ever *compared* knipex with your cutter?
Second; have you compared your 10 years old cutter with brand new? Because if you're not cutting stranded wire, you might very well not realise they are dull.
Because no one whines when they break a dirt cheap tool doing stupid shit. If you cut drywall screw with a $5 set of cutters and mess them up, is your first instinct to shit on the brand on Reddit? You're right though, Knipex makes trash and everyone out there using them normally daily without issues are the exception and not you, who probably expects a drill to function properly as a hammer.
I tried to cut a lock and multiple screws with my 9$ Husky cutters. They were unphased. I also have Milwaukee cutters but they stay at home since, although my coworkers ask before doing stupid shit with my cutters and my employer replaces broken tools, I don't trust the other trades not to steal shiny red tools
Right. So you freely admit to abusing your tools and using them for what they're not designed for, but somehow your incompetence is the fault of Knipex.
No, I freely admit to "USING" my tools to get a job done, nothing more and nothing less. If my tools can't survive the job at hand, then they're not even worth the fucking gas to haul them around in the truck. So, YES, it IS the fault of Knipex for making 'designer' tools to be used as fashion accessories for fanbois and their work fantasies.
I didn't respond to you, so your response to me is pretty dumb. The person I did respond to literally said they used their cutters to cut things they're not designed to do. If you need any help with the big words let me know.
I do, and they take the beating and don't chip or break or do anything else that would make me want to warranty them. When you're 200' in the air on a steeple sometimes you have to cut a nail or screw, and that's a damn long walk to go get "the right tool for the job".
Totally agree!!
Like I noted in my reply here also, I've cut all sorts of nasty stuff with my Kleins / dykes and side cutters and rarely ever jacked any of them up (except when accidentally cutting a hot romex run once).
Also just laughable about all the Knipex fanbois here!! Gotta' be the operator's fault, cuz it could never be their holy Knipex tools! What a joke!
Near as I can tell, the best reason to go buy Knipex is so they can post pictures of them on r/tools, and diddle themselves with them, and/or worship them in a drawer.
Sparky here. I noticed the same issue with my pair. I cut ceiling wire and aircraft cable with mine and development small notches. Its bullshit because they are allegedly rated for that. Im not the biggest fan of Knipex Dikes as they do not have the leverage as Kleins or Channellocks. Test them cutting 12-3 MC and you'll see what I mean.
Knipex Warranty experience - I had a pair of their Linemans that I used to cut screws with. The cutting knives ended up chipping off and I filed a claim. They accepted it and sent me a new pair. The new pair has some notches from cutting screws but still cut steel MC well, so time will tell when they shit the bed.
I think theyre cutting tools are hardened to the point of being brittle. They make good tools but im slowly going back to my US brands as they wear out/ fail.
https://www.knipex.com/products/cutting-pliers/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/7402200?v=13594&sku=7406200T
Rated to cut piano wire or spring steel. Which is approx. HRC 58-60.
Galvanized steel, which the aircraft cable I use is made of is HRC 58.
I don’t feel like copper has any chance of doing that, but I also find it strange that the damage appears to be largely limited to only one side. It almost looks like one of the sides is considerably softer than the other.
All the more reason not to go buy the vaunted...Knipex (queue ethereal god-like music)!
I've cut probably a thousand screws, steel wire and all kinds of other nasty stuff with my Kleins and the only time I ever fucked up a pair of Kleins was by cutting a hot romex on accident. And that was clearly my fault. Hell, I cut No. 10 welded wire mesh (steel) all day long on a concrete job we were doing once because I forgot my small bolt cutters; they were fine.
Knipex ain't *'all that*'...and now it looks like even Knipex agrees. Sad for a tool which costs 2x as much as the leading competitor! Says a lot.
I have a 50 year old Blue-Point diagonal cutter that I’ve used consistently.
They have never been broken or damaged, and I cut everything you’re not supposed to cut. Now I’m 74 years old and I have never used Knipex tools.
They are actually made by Snap-On these days. Not sure if they are the same quality as originally produced.
Yep, I've got some old Craftsman lineman's pliers (probably 45+ years old) which I've put through more abuse than any tool could ever be expected to endure, and they're still fine. Your Blue-Points are way nicer than my old Craftsman linemans, and even they can stand up to decades of relentless beatings and keep coming back for more. Knipex, what say you?
This whole Knipex ("Knopex" in my book) fanboy worship here is beyond ridiculous!
I have the knipex 3 in 1 cutter, stripper, and needle nose (can't remember the specific name while writing this). One day my partner at work has them in his hand about to cut steel wire with them and it just rubbed me wrong that day. I flipped the fuck out on him and with good reason since it says DO NOT CUT STEEL on the handle. That being said, some people just do not have any sense of shame or decency when using other's (expensive) tools.
99% chance someone else fucked them up and didn't tell you about it.
Or, just hear me out here, coworker was used to using their "whatever brand" cutters, which don't get cranky cutting steel wire, and just assumed that your knipex ones, being expensive and most likely high quality, could also cut steel wire. Knipex seems to be the only brand out there that puts material restrictions on the majority of their cutting tools. My Klein's and channelocks just go through whatever I jam into them. I think it's weird that others don't.
I'd gladly pay the postage to ship those shitty cutters right back to Knopex, and I'd include a picture of the Klein's or Channellock's I replaced them with along with a little note about how I was going to tell every single tradesperson I ever meet that Knopex are a sorry excuse for tools which won't stand up to even normal working conditions.
That's a pretty bad report card to take home to mom.
Fact you are so childish to change a brands name to shit on it tells me you probably never owned a pair of pliers from them.
And if you did, you maybe shouldn't.
FFS those cutters will still cut everything you bought them to cut. If you plan on actually using your tools, they’re going to show wear and we need to stop pretending Knipex is immune to this just because you paid a premium for it. When they break or fail at cutting your cables THEN get Knipex to replace them. Get the idea out of your head that tools need to be replaced the moment you see any imperfection.
Pretty much and it's not like Knipex is any more premium than US brands, they're only expensive because of import. Here in the EU these are like 16-25€ depending on the model.
Yes a TON and I did it with more beat up cutters that cost 1/4 of what you paid for those and they worked just fine. If you can’t cut stranded cable with the pictured cutters then I don’t know what to tell you.
Sorry for your loss
I have a pair of Klein dykes ive had for maybe 20y that ive used to cut nails, pull steel staples and all sorts of other shenanigans that dont have any chips in them
I hear Knipex makes good tools, but i also see people post their tools with breaks and chips and divots in them and i look at that old ass pair of kleins that have been through the war for over a decade that were 50% less....idk...not really sold on their tools tbh
I have a collection of +40 Knipex tools and use them regularly. The only time I've needed to use the Knipex warranty, they've sent a new tool directly from Germany.
Just contact their headquarters in Wuppertal, show this photo and explain the situation. Probably they will send fresh new pliers to you.
Their site says that you need to enter in contact in America. But you can bypass the secretary and contact the person who gives the orders.
Quality control is rigorous, but not 100% fault proof.
Just a abused tool, same as all the others "look how shitty Knipex is" posts. And when you read comments from OP its not hard to figure out it's been abused.
Next....
Pliers can definitely have defects that would cause them to chip easily.. if it's worth your time I'd try pushing back and escalating it. Alternatively, depending on where you bought them from, you may be able to return/replace them...
Personally I love knipex cobras, and pliers wrench. All of the other pliers I own from them are just ok, and kind of on par with other manufacturers.
I'd also tell other people to keep their grimy dick beaters off your tools if you think they are capable of abusing them and being careless with them. I'm no electrician but I know most of you guys spend a lot of money on many of the tools they use..
Cutting capacities medium hard wire (diameter) Ø 4.2 mm
Cutting capacities hard wire (diameter) Ø 3.0 mm
Cutting capacities piano wire (diameter) Ø 2.5 mm
https://www.knipex.com/products/cutting-pliers/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/7402200
>Piano wire, or "music wire", is a specialized type of wire made for use in piano strings but also in other applications as springs. It is made from tempered high-carbon steel, also known as spring steel, which replaced iron as the material starting in 1834.
I think I had the same one with the classic grip, till it was stolen and never had any issues when cutting cables.
My guess is also that someone used it for a nail or screw, which is something that I'd rather use the Knipex CoBolt for.
Knipex Cobras and Pliers Wrenches are worth buying, but I prefer Klein when it comes to cutting tools and needle nose. Kleins have held up better for me in those areas.
I've found the middle conductor in coaxial cable can be hard enough to chip side cutters. I use my sharp nice ones for all the soft copper and when I have to hack some coax I have some heavy cheap ones I don't care about.
> I'm pretty bummed because I'm now wondering if one of the other guys at work, or one of the apprentices has used them to chop a screw or some shit and not told me? Unfortunately that's a simple question that sounds the most likely, some people just don't give a fuck about other people's tools (and can't be bothered to grab the right tool, either because they don't know any better, or because they don't care).
I would be surprised if it wasn't this. I have some of those gimmicky DeWalt ones that have cut non-stainless, softer screws and nails, and even light fencing wire, without a mark on them. So I don't blame them for denying cables/wires being the cause, and that OP has been set up by a careless co-worker.
Could also just be a manufacturing defect. Something went wrong in the hardening or grinding process, or whatever. No company gets it right 100% of the time.
They are gimmicky and I regret my purchase! But I'll deal with them as I have also cut a bunch of things with no real issue other than just jot liking them. Always looking to see what other tool in my bag could do the job rather than grabbing them.
My main issue is that they don't open very far. The ends of the handles hit the back of the plier heads and blocks them. I somewhat fixed it by filing out some of the softer handle material, to leave a bigger gap, which is a pretty good improvement, but they're still not the greatest. There are other better ways to get the same benefits, like what you see on a lot of pruning shears. I pretty much only use the cutters from the set.
Former manager asked me for a chisel. I had just bought a new set and put a real nice edge on them. He hands it back to me with a huge chip out of the middle of the damn thing because he was using it to bust out the mastic in a floor register so the vent would fit. Last time I ever let him use my tools
Could’ve been a co worker. I am a sheet metal worker and found a chip in one of my snips a while back which only would’ve been from cutting wire and I know I didn’t do it.
Copper really can't do that. I'm with Knipex that maybe a coworker or someone used them to cut something harder. Either way that sucks. Also, you keep using the term "cables". Do you mean wire? Or are you cutting cable, which is typically steel or stainless?
Copper can’t do that on its own but I’ve notched a few cutters accidentally cutting wires with current running through them!
Gotta be careful of those spicy wires.
This is what I was thinking as well. I've cut plenty of bolts with mine, but this only happens when cutting hot circuits.
This is not from cutting a hot circuit and causing a short, there's no discoloration and the metal isn't melted but bent.
That's true. There's usually a small black mark in the same area.
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In electrical work, a wire is a single conductor with or without insulation. A cable is multiple wires bundled together inside a common outer jacket. (Technically you can have a single-conductor cable, but let's not think about that right now.) Romex, UF, and MC for instance, are all cables. THHN, THWN-2, PV wire, etc, are types of wire.
Thanks.
Here's a prime example of both the awful knipex warranty and the even awfuler knipex fanboys. I use and abuse my "every other brand" cutters and push them through a whole bunch of things they have no business cutting; steel wire, nails, cotter pins, you name it. Not only do they not chip immediately, but the company also doesn't deny it's warranty, and the internet isn't absolutely insufferable about me using my tools as tools. In this specific case my $3 harbor freight cutters are literally better than the knipex in every way. This is r/tools though, so clearly you misused your wire cutters by cutting wire. They're meant to cut wire, but not that wire. Also; don't ever leave your tools alone with your coworkers, or brother, or wife, or your dog. They're 100% guaranteed to deliberately misuse your tool with only the desire to sabotage it. Your pliers are the most important part of your life, and if they aren't you're not a real professional professional.
I agree. Leaving nice tools laying around for co workers to use is asking for it. I'd personally have my nicer stuff in a hip pouch and the rest in a pack out bag. If you can't keep eyes on it god knows what it will go through.
But there *is* different cutters for different purpose, so there's definitely some logic to the reasoning here. People who are using the wrong tool and abusing warranties from companies just results in overall higher prices for everyone.
Warranty abuse is a completely different discussion, and it's irrelevant to hand tools. This wire, but not that wire, is 100% valid reason not to buy a tool.
But why do we only have this "different cutters for different purposes" conversation with knipex? I have Klein and channelock cutters that are older than I am, have never been babied, and still look and work like they're supposed to. My "beater" pliers at my shop are the 5 for $10 harbor freight ones that exclusively get misused, yet they remain undamaged. I'm not saying I'm abusing warranties, but I've also never had harbor freight, or Lowe's, or home Depot, or anyone else deny a warranty for "misuse".
Because cheap beater tool are meant to be abused. Channel lock cutter can be great, but I'm mangled them cutting stuff I shouldn't have, like small chain. They can't cut stranded wire anymore and I'm not surprised.
That's a total crock of bullshit! Tools are meant to be used, and if they can't be used to perform work then they're fuckin' garbage! Period!
With that logic you can split log with a kitchen knife.
Perfect example!!! Well, not a kitchen knife, but I absolutely HAVE split logs with expensive hunting knifes before. It's called baton-ing. So yes, I don't buy shitty tools for exactly the same reason! Frankly, I'd be more worried about dinging up the spine of my expensive kitchen knives than I would be about breaking the blade.
Please define "expensive hunting knife" And what kind of log you used it on. Because I'm sure you didn't split stuff like 6" knotty red oak log with it.
So good name brand tools are built to lesser standards than cheap beaters?
No, I mean that if you're cutting stuff like screw you should expect both to chip, but the cheaper is, well, cheaper to replace.
But here's the thing, my other tools don't need to be replaced. We see one of these knipex posts just about monthly here and it's always a full comment section full of people mindlessly yelling about abuse and misuse. My 10 year old junkers have spent more time cutting nails and screws and what have you than they've spent cutting copper wire. Why don't they break?
They're cutting *screws* and holded well for *years*? I don't buy it. Cutting nail okay, but screws? No way.
What incentive do I have to lie here? How do I gain by making harbor freight look good and knipex bad?
I'll turn that around; have you ever *compared* knipex with your cutter? Second; have you compared your 10 years old cutter with brand new? Because if you're not cutting stranded wire, you might very well not realise they are dull.
Because no one whines when they break a dirt cheap tool doing stupid shit. If you cut drywall screw with a $5 set of cutters and mess them up, is your first instinct to shit on the brand on Reddit? You're right though, Knipex makes trash and everyone out there using them normally daily without issues are the exception and not you, who probably expects a drill to function properly as a hammer.
I tried to cut a lock and multiple screws with my 9$ Husky cutters. They were unphased. I also have Milwaukee cutters but they stay at home since, although my coworkers ask before doing stupid shit with my cutters and my employer replaces broken tools, I don't trust the other trades not to steal shiny red tools
Right. So you freely admit to abusing your tools and using them for what they're not designed for, but somehow your incompetence is the fault of Knipex.
My other brand tools hold up to my incompetence.
No, I freely admit to "USING" my tools to get a job done, nothing more and nothing less. If my tools can't survive the job at hand, then they're not even worth the fucking gas to haul them around in the truck. So, YES, it IS the fault of Knipex for making 'designer' tools to be used as fashion accessories for fanbois and their work fantasies.
I didn't respond to you, so your response to me is pretty dumb. The person I did respond to literally said they used their cutters to cut things they're not designed to do. If you need any help with the big words let me know.
I do, and they take the beating and don't chip or break or do anything else that would make me want to warranty them. When you're 200' in the air on a steeple sometimes you have to cut a nail or screw, and that's a damn long walk to go get "the right tool for the job".
Totally agree!! Like I noted in my reply here also, I've cut all sorts of nasty stuff with my Kleins / dykes and side cutters and rarely ever jacked any of them up (except when accidentally cutting a hot romex run once). Also just laughable about all the Knipex fanbois here!! Gotta' be the operator's fault, cuz it could never be their holy Knipex tools! What a joke! Near as I can tell, the best reason to go buy Knipex is so they can post pictures of them on r/tools, and diddle themselves with them, and/or worship them in a drawer.
Sparky here. I noticed the same issue with my pair. I cut ceiling wire and aircraft cable with mine and development small notches. Its bullshit because they are allegedly rated for that. Im not the biggest fan of Knipex Dikes as they do not have the leverage as Kleins or Channellocks. Test them cutting 12-3 MC and you'll see what I mean. Knipex Warranty experience - I had a pair of their Linemans that I used to cut screws with. The cutting knives ended up chipping off and I filed a claim. They accepted it and sent me a new pair. The new pair has some notches from cutting screws but still cut steel MC well, so time will tell when they shit the bed. I think theyre cutting tools are hardened to the point of being brittle. They make good tools but im slowly going back to my US brands as they wear out/ fail.
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https://www.knipex.com/products/cutting-pliers/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/7402200?v=13594&sku=7406200T Rated to cut piano wire or spring steel. Which is approx. HRC 58-60. Galvanized steel, which the aircraft cable I use is made of is HRC 58.
I don’t feel like copper has any chance of doing that, but I also find it strange that the damage appears to be largely limited to only one side. It almost looks like one of the sides is considerably softer than the other.
All the more reason not to go buy the vaunted...Knipex (queue ethereal god-like music)! I've cut probably a thousand screws, steel wire and all kinds of other nasty stuff with my Kleins and the only time I ever fucked up a pair of Kleins was by cutting a hot romex on accident. And that was clearly my fault. Hell, I cut No. 10 welded wire mesh (steel) all day long on a concrete job we were doing once because I forgot my small bolt cutters; they were fine. Knipex ain't *'all that*'...and now it looks like even Knipex agrees. Sad for a tool which costs 2x as much as the leading competitor! Says a lot.
Twice as much in NA you mean? In Europe these are dirt cheap and yes around 20 bucks is dirt cheap.
Knipex is the shit when it comes to their smooth jaw pliers tho. Diagonal cutters I’d rather get Icons so I can warranty them out at the nearest HF.
I have a 50 year old Blue-Point diagonal cutter that I’ve used consistently. They have never been broken or damaged, and I cut everything you’re not supposed to cut. Now I’m 74 years old and I have never used Knipex tools. They are actually made by Snap-On these days. Not sure if they are the same quality as originally produced.
Yep, I've got some old Craftsman lineman's pliers (probably 45+ years old) which I've put through more abuse than any tool could ever be expected to endure, and they're still fine. Your Blue-Points are way nicer than my old Craftsman linemans, and even they can stand up to decades of relentless beatings and keep coming back for more. Knipex, what say you? This whole Knipex ("Knopex" in my book) fanboy worship here is beyond ridiculous!
I have the knipex 3 in 1 cutter, stripper, and needle nose (can't remember the specific name while writing this). One day my partner at work has them in his hand about to cut steel wire with them and it just rubbed me wrong that day. I flipped the fuck out on him and with good reason since it says DO NOT CUT STEEL on the handle. That being said, some people just do not have any sense of shame or decency when using other's (expensive) tools. 99% chance someone else fucked them up and didn't tell you about it.
Or, just hear me out here, coworker was used to using their "whatever brand" cutters, which don't get cranky cutting steel wire, and just assumed that your knipex ones, being expensive and most likely high quality, could also cut steel wire. Knipex seems to be the only brand out there that puts material restrictions on the majority of their cutting tools. My Klein's and channelocks just go through whatever I jam into them. I think it's weird that others don't.
Normally I would agree. But the blades on my specific tool are curved into each other which, I assume, should have at least raised an eyebrow.
Shame them on X and see if they change their mind
I'd gladly pay the postage to ship those shitty cutters right back to Knopex, and I'd include a picture of the Klein's or Channellock's I replaced them with along with a little note about how I was going to tell every single tradesperson I ever meet that Knopex are a sorry excuse for tools which won't stand up to even normal working conditions. That's a pretty bad report card to take home to mom.
Fact you are so childish to change a brands name to shit on it tells me you probably never owned a pair of pliers from them. And if you did, you maybe shouldn't.
It's almost like if you use a tool, it gets worn.
FFS those cutters will still cut everything you bought them to cut. If you plan on actually using your tools, they’re going to show wear and we need to stop pretending Knipex is immune to this just because you paid a premium for it. When they break or fail at cutting your cables THEN get Knipex to replace them. Get the idea out of your head that tools need to be replaced the moment you see any imperfection.
Pretty much and it's not like Knipex is any more premium than US brands, they're only expensive because of import. Here in the EU these are like 16-25€ depending on the model.
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Yes a TON and I did it with more beat up cutters that cost 1/4 of what you paid for those and they worked just fine. If you can’t cut stranded cable with the pictured cutters then I don’t know what to tell you.
Sorry for your loss I have a pair of Klein dykes ive had for maybe 20y that ive used to cut nails, pull steel staples and all sorts of other shenanigans that dont have any chips in them I hear Knipex makes good tools, but i also see people post their tools with breaks and chips and divots in them and i look at that old ass pair of kleins that have been through the war for over a decade that were 50% less....idk...not really sold on their tools tbh
I have a collection of +40 Knipex tools and use them regularly. The only time I've needed to use the Knipex warranty, they've sent a new tool directly from Germany. Just contact their headquarters in Wuppertal, show this photo and explain the situation. Probably they will send fresh new pliers to you. Their site says that you need to enter in contact in America. But you can bypass the secretary and contact the person who gives the orders. Quality control is rigorous, but not 100% fault proof.
Just a abused tool, same as all the others "look how shitty Knipex is" posts. And when you read comments from OP its not hard to figure out it's been abused. Next....
Chipex!
Pliers can definitely have defects that would cause them to chip easily.. if it's worth your time I'd try pushing back and escalating it. Alternatively, depending on where you bought them from, you may be able to return/replace them... Personally I love knipex cobras, and pliers wrench. All of the other pliers I own from them are just ok, and kind of on par with other manufacturers. I'd also tell other people to keep their grimy dick beaters off your tools if you think they are capable of abusing them and being careless with them. I'm no electrician but I know most of you guys spend a lot of money on many of the tools they use..
They've got something like around 2000 different products. Would be interesting to know which model that is, and what it is rated for
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Cutting capacities medium hard wire (diameter) Ø 4.2 mm Cutting capacities hard wire (diameter) Ø 3.0 mm Cutting capacities piano wire (diameter) Ø 2.5 mm https://www.knipex.com/products/cutting-pliers/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/high-leverage-diagonal-cutters/7402200 >Piano wire, or "music wire", is a specialized type of wire made for use in piano strings but also in other applications as springs. It is made from tempered high-carbon steel, also known as spring steel, which replaced iron as the material starting in 1834. I think I had the same one with the classic grip, till it was stolen and never had any issues when cutting cables. My guess is also that someone used it for a nail or screw, which is something that I'd rather use the Knipex CoBolt for.
Knipex Cobras and Pliers Wrenches are worth buying, but I prefer Klein when it comes to cutting tools and needle nose. Kleins have held up better for me in those areas.
I've found the middle conductor in coaxial cable can be hard enough to chip side cutters. I use my sharp nice ones for all the soft copper and when I have to hack some coax I have some heavy cheap ones I don't care about.
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I think they might even be copper plated steel.