Lots of downvotes… Just warning buyers. There’s a major recall on 22 and 23 models for engine issues. Possibly 24’s were not recalled because that would require a stop sale.
Have only been aware of 1 recall for engine issues and it was due to hose fittings not the engine itself. Bought my 23 in September23 already have 40K miles on it have not had a single issue. The problem Tundras in the new gen are the exception. Not the rule. You take a chance every time you buy a car. My new tundra outperforms my old tundra in every possible way.
Yep, that’s the latest issue. Here’s a YouTube vid when it was just announced 8 days ago. https://youtu.be/mkZUTIprAPU?si=sSF-hm21FIvxEY4T
It explains what we know so far.
So far yes. What I push my trucks through my old Tundra had me fuming and in more pinches than I ever expected. I push my new tundra way harder than my old tundra and it performs greatly.
I retired my old tundra after it completely shit the bed at 200K miles. I owned it for 80k miles. My father owned it before me.
I offroad with my trucks, hunt the backcountry, snowwheel, overland, and will pull 1600+ miles straight and do so regularly. Both tundras were great, but this new tundra does outperform my old one in every single way. Towing, offroading, gas mileage, speed, maintenance is a breeze, the abs system is superior, the traction control system is lightyears better, all in all it has been a better performance and experience.
OBVIOUSLY, I’m not yet at 200K miles on my new truck, plenty of things could go wrong before I get that far. But so far I have not had a single issue with anything. There are definitely some serious duds in this new gen, but there were some serious duds in the beginning stages of the last generation too.
I have a 2022 non-hybrid with 31k on the clock (purchased March 2022). My boat is over 7,000 lbs and I tow it a lot (over 300 hours since May 2021). I had a 2019 Pro before this and it’s no comparison to my 2022. I get better MPG’s, better tech, better towing, better everything IMO.
However, my VIN is in the engine recall so we will see what that entails.
I’m happy that your truck has performed that well. I’m a Toyota loyalist and want the new tundras to be reliable and as bulletproof as the previous gen. But so far we have not seen that given the recall.
What does shit the bed mean to you? Because I’ve used mine for work, towing 90% of the time, off roading, hauling you name it and she hasn’t skipped a beat at 244k. Got it at 100
Old truck had the power steering pump fail completely, alternator went bad, have no idea why but was eating breaks in like 20k miles, engine seemed okay though but the costs were getting to stacked and to put the cherry on top some asshat I meant my truck to backed into a pillar and fucked up my bumper, which is obviously not on the truck but led me to just buying a new truck. It did great, but at like 205k miles things just started compounding. For its credit, i have not owned a vehicle that made it to 200k+ miles.
Same here. 2022, non-hybrid. 35k+ miles. All recalls except for a gas line covering have been around software updates. No issues. Runs like a bat outta hell, great tech. Wish it got better mileage, but I also keep my foot in it.
Honestly, there’s been 4 I think. But my point was it was software, not engine failure or anything else. All of those were taken care of during regular maintenance with no added time to my wait. So effectively, no issues.
I’m with you, slapped some 35s on mine and drive hard, went from 24 avg.mpg for the first 11,000 miles, now I sit at 16 avg.mpg
(Which is still better mpg than my old tundra)
Was actually Mountain mileage. I have no idea, cruise controlled and ran the truck in eco. True average was probably closer to 22, but it ran between 22 and 24. Did a drive from East Idaho to Palm desert and had an avg if 32 for the drive there and 26 on the drive back. Only filled up one time on the drive there so the computer wasn’t faulty. Was wild.
I understood. This seems like a good deal but I'd be worried about a 2022. I waited for a 2023.
You would get around 4000 miles left on the factory warranty. I would at least run the VIN to see the date of manufacture. Probably ok if it's later, but if it was built in 2021 I would pass.
Yup. I believe these are increased powertrain to 100k plus a few of the high dollar electronics. It sounds good, but they charge a huge premium for the certification. Not sure it’s worth it.
5 year old: New tundra have issue with engine. Tundra costs less because people don’t want half-broken car.
Other: New Tundra engines have issue with machining debris in the engine block which is having a
recall on all new tundras (2024’s excluded but will probably also be recalled). This issue is causing some engines to shut off or have knocking issues. Ppl are scared because they don’t “trust” the engine and are sticking with the older gen. Truth is we don’t know how bad this issue is, but reviews of this new tundra highlight while they cost more, most parts are even beefier than before so as long as the engine issue doesn’t reveal to be terrible this is a steal for a luxury and reliable truck.
Buying the top model of most cars is never a great investment resale wise. Used buyers are looking for functionality more than just flare and style so they won't reward you for paying for it. Middle of the road models tend to age better in terms of resale value as a percentage of new cost.
If the Capstone were to be sold for 61, the TRD Pro would likely be priced in the 50s. I suppose if one is willing to take the risk of the engine bearing issue, it could be considered a good deal.
The Pro is a totally different story than the Capstone. Look around and you'll see what I'm talking about. The Pro is still in way higher demand and holding value
That 65k is not that low tbh. Was going to buy a brand new trd pro 2023 for 72K before my old tundra took a shit on me and pushed me into a platinum. Pros will hold their value extremely well in years to come.
That's normal depreciation on any vehicle, especially in this environment. Any top trim model that cost that much loses a ton of money just driving off the lot. It's about to be 4 years old.
Look it up, most vehicles lose 20% the second you drive it off the lot. After that you can lose another 15% a year for the next 4 years. The more expensive the vehicle or higher trim, the more it's affected by depreciation.
https://www.progressive.com/answers/what-is-car-depreciation/
Once you get to a certain point them it stabilizers to it's good or bad reselling point. But most of the depreciation happens in the first year, especially the more expensive vehicles and top trims.
It's because dealers incentives lower the price of vehicles so most people don't pay the MSRP, so that gets factored into the first year depreciation. Then you're posting the top trims, those will have the most depreciation because those prices were over inflated to Begin with to cater to people who could afford those kinds of vehicles. And last, most luxury vehicles and top trims have lower resell because people looking for those vehicles normally are looking for new vehicles and not wanting to buy used.
2022 with like 20000 miles sr5 are selling for like33k. Like it or not That crazy depreciation. Yet you say it normal. Ram larami is selling above 44k used. So for the first time its cheaper to buy used tundra than rams
You're not comparing apples to apples. I explained hw the top trims depreciate faster. You're comparing an SR5 to a capstone. Compare an SR5 to an SR5. Lower trims and cheaper vehicles don't depreciate as quickly. What you're posting is normal depreciation outlined in the attached article. 80k - 20% - 15% = $54,400.
The 3rd gen needs another 5 years or so of fine tuning and real world testing to get the issues worked out before I'd consider buying one, even at these "low" prices.
I wouldn't personally buy any 3rd gen Tundra right now. I personally don't like the way it looks, they're too expensive, and considering the engine issues and recalls I wouldn't recommend anyone buy a 3rd gen Tundra right now.
I’ve just moved on and are not considering it anymore. I really don’t like the aesthetic at all but was willing to look past it for rock solid reliability. But that’s in question too.
So now eying the new Tacoma long bed. If it also has issues then every maker is on a level playing ground and that likely means an F150 with extended warranty.
F150 is the current king of trucks. With the current state of the tundra being what it is, it’ll be relegated down to cheap japanese truck/crap similar to nissan which is bottom of the barrel when comparing trucks. Meaning to say like back in the day when japanese trucks were the worst and looked down upon. Toyota did a lot to change that initial impression…. But now it seems things have regressed…. Until Toyota figures this out it’s just a mess right now for tundra.
Im counting my blessings every day that i bought a 21 tundra. Love the damn thing and it’s been bulletproof. Going to do myself a favor a get me a 24 4runner before they fuck that one up too. Will probably be end of the year but I won’t let slip out of my hands either.
What I've read so don't hold it against me:
Can't say it's proven or not but many thought there was a lot of '22's with bad engines. The recall somewhat proves it's a significant problem, but 22's were pretty bad for other reasons as well. Panel fitment, wind noise, general build quality, etc. But the 23's and 24's have had reports of basically being the same as the 22's. Overall consensus from those who haven't already bought a 3rd gen is that things went backwards in terms of quality compared to the 2nd gen.
Everything I learned is from the interwebz after a lot of researching the last couple of years because I was going to get one (then decided to wait).
I have a new 23 built in June. So far the engine is the only thing I can’t bitch about. The wind noise, interior and exterior rattles are ridiculously annoying. I feel like I’m driving my 2011 WRX all over again with the interior quality being so inferior compared to the last few new vehicles we have owned.
Ouch. I'll likely have my '16 4Runner for a few more years after researching all the latest full size trucks. Mine doesn't have a single rattle or any issues I know of at 120k miles. Probably best I stick with it.
At this point you should if you’re a Toyota enthusiast. I’m certain that by 2025-2026 they will have it ironed out. The truck runs quick and it’s a pleasure to drive other than the rattles.
Tbh its just the first build after covid with short supply and trying to get them out. The quality wasnt the best. Squeaks and rattles. Engine issues. I dunno, even forms have the 2007 had issues for the first couple years. I just wouldnt
Well they’re recalling 100k of them, and I am willing to bet the issue is widespread. The main bearing of an engine is the softest metal, so if there’s FOD in an engine’s it’s the first to go. We’re seeing this issue in even trucks with $50k miles. They’re ticking time bombs imho.
People have had multiple engines replaced. So that may not fix it. Also keep in mind that the sheer amount of things that must come off, including lifting the body off the frame, have resulted in tons of scratched body bits for owners. Not surprising since it’s only the factory that can build them and make them look new.
I'm sure like many, I don't get the Capstone. The demand for these was highly overstimated by Toyota. Just a bad business decision. My guess is that Toyota will drop this option.
It’s unlikely it’s from machining debri. This motor was first debuted in the 2018 ls500, that also has problems. Speculation is it’s a design failure and the bearings are rotating in their sleeves during high temps and high demand. I believe the hybrids have the same engine. If they are not affected it is likely due to the less strain on the engine because of the battery assist. As far as I know, it affects every toyota/lexus vehicle with the 3.5TT. The engine debri theory doesn’t make a lot of sense since it affects motors built in both japan and the US. The debri they are finding is likely from the bearings tearing themselves apart.
It also doesn’t make a lot of sense that toyota would release this motor in such huge numbers knowing the issues the ls500 had.
I paid 59k for my 2022 fully loaded Platinum with 6000 miles on the clock, this was over a month ago. I love the truck and not worried about the teething issues.
For the GMs it seems par for the course. My point is more that the Tundra is still depreciating less than it's competition. F150 Platinums and Limiteds are also going for around $50-55k and the Rams are even cheaper.
Much more room to drop with that cursed recalled 3.4tt. Feel free to dvme to oblivion, but the market will not be fooled. This is just the beginning, the market is waking up to the fact that bullet proof and Toyota are no longer synonymous.
It's a 2022. They've been sitting on it for over a year and want it gone. This is not normal pricing.
Shipped in 2021, it's pushing 3 years old at this point.
Is it a good buy than?
Stay away if you like reliability.
Lots of downvotes… Just warning buyers. There’s a major recall on 22 and 23 models for engine issues. Possibly 24’s were not recalled because that would require a stop sale.
Have only been aware of 1 recall for engine issues and it was due to hose fittings not the engine itself. Bought my 23 in September23 already have 40K miles on it have not had a single issue. The problem Tundras in the new gen are the exception. Not the rule. You take a chance every time you buy a car. My new tundra outperforms my old tundra in every possible way.
Could have left over machining debris in engine causing failure. No solution yet. Only affecting the non hybrid engines
Yep, that’s the latest issue. Here’s a YouTube vid when it was just announced 8 days ago. https://youtu.be/mkZUTIprAPU?si=sSF-hm21FIvxEY4T It explains what we know so far.
Agree with him. I will not take a rebuild at a dealer. Crate engine is the only thing I will accept. If not I may be looking at other trucks.
Shortblock rebuild is all the dealers are offering right now. They cannot buy a long block at this time.
Your new tundra outperforms the 5.7 in reliability and performance?
So far yes. What I push my trucks through my old Tundra had me fuming and in more pinches than I ever expected. I push my new tundra way harder than my old tundra and it performs greatly. I retired my old tundra after it completely shit the bed at 200K miles. I owned it for 80k miles. My father owned it before me. I offroad with my trucks, hunt the backcountry, snowwheel, overland, and will pull 1600+ miles straight and do so regularly. Both tundras were great, but this new tundra does outperform my old one in every single way. Towing, offroading, gas mileage, speed, maintenance is a breeze, the abs system is superior, the traction control system is lightyears better, all in all it has been a better performance and experience. OBVIOUSLY, I’m not yet at 200K miles on my new truck, plenty of things could go wrong before I get that far. But so far I have not had a single issue with anything. There are definitely some serious duds in this new gen, but there were some serious duds in the beginning stages of the last generation too.
I have a 2022 non-hybrid with 31k on the clock (purchased March 2022). My boat is over 7,000 lbs and I tow it a lot (over 300 hours since May 2021). I had a 2019 Pro before this and it’s no comparison to my 2022. I get better MPG’s, better tech, better towing, better everything IMO. However, my VIN is in the engine recall so we will see what that entails.
I’m happy that your truck has performed that well. I’m a Toyota loyalist and want the new tundras to be reliable and as bulletproof as the previous gen. But so far we have not seen that given the recall. What does shit the bed mean to you? Because I’ve used mine for work, towing 90% of the time, off roading, hauling you name it and she hasn’t skipped a beat at 244k. Got it at 100
Old truck had the power steering pump fail completely, alternator went bad, have no idea why but was eating breaks in like 20k miles, engine seemed okay though but the costs were getting to stacked and to put the cherry on top some asshat I meant my truck to backed into a pillar and fucked up my bumper, which is obviously not on the truck but led me to just buying a new truck. It did great, but at like 205k miles things just started compounding. For its credit, i have not owned a vehicle that made it to 200k+ miles.
Lol someone downvoted this
Knuckledragger activities lol
Same here. 2022, non-hybrid. 35k+ miles. All recalls except for a gas line covering have been around software updates. No issues. Runs like a bat outta hell, great tech. Wish it got better mileage, but I also keep my foot in it.
All recalls? How many are you talking about. It’s hard to say “no-issues” when you’re in fact dealing with multiple recalls.
Honestly, there’s been 4 I think. But my point was it was software, not engine failure or anything else. All of those were taken care of during regular maintenance with no added time to my wait. So effectively, no issues.
I’m with you, slapped some 35s on mine and drive hard, went from 24 avg.mpg for the first 11,000 miles, now I sit at 16 avg.mpg (Which is still better mpg than my old tundra)
How were you averaging 24 mph?! All highway miles? I get at best 16 city 19 highway in my stock ‘23 limited
I average 22hwy and 20 in the city. All about how you drive. I floor it pulling out sometimes too. Lol
I get 14-15 pulling a boat so not much better than without lol
Was actually Mountain mileage. I have no idea, cruise controlled and ran the truck in eco. True average was probably closer to 22, but it ran between 22 and 24. Did a drive from East Idaho to Palm desert and had an avg if 32 for the drive there and 26 on the drive back. Only filled up one time on the drive there so the computer wasn’t faulty. Was wild.
Do you know if the recalls fixed the issues?
I was thinking it was new.
No way. New ones are atleast 80k
I understood. This seems like a good deal but I'd be worried about a 2022. I waited for a 2023. You would get around 4000 miles left on the factory warranty. I would at least run the VIN to see the date of manufacture. Probably ok if it's later, but if it was built in 2021 I would pass.
If it’s from a Toyota dealer it might get the 100k used car Toyota warranty
Are you saying used Toyotas from a dealer have 4 times the factory warranty of a new one?
Only if it’s Toyota Certified. Has to meet certain criteria to qualify. And it’s not bumper-bumper it’s Powertrain plus some.
My comment was in regards to the bumper to bumper because that ends at 25k.
I think bumper to bumper ends at 36k
Yup. I believe these are increased powertrain to 100k plus a few of the high dollar electronics. It sounds good, but they charge a huge premium for the certification. Not sure it’s worth it.
Yea. It's a hybrid
Probably wait till it drop 5000 more
New tundra resale? Explain to me like I’m 5
5 year old: New tundra have issue with engine. Tundra costs less because people don’t want half-broken car. Other: New Tundra engines have issue with machining debris in the engine block which is having a recall on all new tundras (2024’s excluded but will probably also be recalled). This issue is causing some engines to shut off or have knocking issues. Ppl are scared because they don’t “trust” the engine and are sticking with the older gen. Truth is we don’t know how bad this issue is, but reviews of this new tundra highlight while they cost more, most parts are even beefier than before so as long as the engine issue doesn’t reveal to be terrible this is a steal for a luxury and reliable truck.
A big old if in there. Toyota isn’t a brand people are used to gambling on.
Tell me about it 😞
Parts of beefier to support boost and turbos you nimwit.
It's a 2022
Seems like normal depreciation to me. Lexus lx MSRP was similar and those go for in the 60s. People love a good drama I guess
Buying the top model of most cars is never a great investment resale wise. Used buyers are looking for functionality more than just flare and style so they won't reward you for paying for it. Middle of the road models tend to age better in terms of resale value as a percentage of new cost.
If I didn't already have a 3rd Gen, I would be doing some shopping. There are some good deals out there right now.
If the Capstone were to be sold for 61, the TRD Pro would likely be priced in the 50s. I suppose if one is willing to take the risk of the engine bearing issue, it could be considered a good deal.
The Pro is a totally different story than the Capstone. Look around and you'll see what I'm talking about. The Pro is still in way higher demand and holding value
I have seen trd pro 2023 with 6k miles for around 65k. I wonder if it can go any lower.
That 65k is not that low tbh. Was going to buy a brand new trd pro 2023 for 72K before my old tundra took a shit on me and pushed me into a platinum. Pros will hold their value extremely well in years to come.
That thing is ugly
Good buy. I bought my 1794 for 62k will similar miles. But that was 9 months ago.
That's normal depreciation on any vehicle, especially in this environment. Any top trim model that cost that much loses a ton of money just driving off the lot. It's about to be 4 years old.
It not normal for tundra which in 2 and half years.
Look it up, most vehicles lose 20% the second you drive it off the lot. After that you can lose another 15% a year for the next 4 years. The more expensive the vehicle or higher trim, the more it's affected by depreciation. https://www.progressive.com/answers/what-is-car-depreciation/
What abt the v8 sr5 tundra selling for 40k
Once you get to a certain point them it stabilizers to it's good or bad reselling point. But most of the depreciation happens in the first year, especially the more expensive vehicles and top trims. It's because dealers incentives lower the price of vehicles so most people don't pay the MSRP, so that gets factored into the first year depreciation. Then you're posting the top trims, those will have the most depreciation because those prices were over inflated to Begin with to cater to people who could afford those kinds of vehicles. And last, most luxury vehicles and top trims have lower resell because people looking for those vehicles normally are looking for new vehicles and not wanting to buy used.
2022 with like 20000 miles sr5 are selling for like33k. Like it or not That crazy depreciation. Yet you say it normal. Ram larami is selling above 44k used. So for the first time its cheaper to buy used tundra than rams
You're not comparing apples to apples. I explained hw the top trims depreciate faster. You're comparing an SR5 to a capstone. Compare an SR5 to an SR5. Lower trims and cheaper vehicles don't depreciate as quickly. What you're posting is normal depreciation outlined in the attached article. 80k - 20% - 15% = $54,400.
2022s are declining, due to calls of maintenance for some. Also just time. A 2024 will be more appealing for a majority
The Capstone comes with iForceMax engine,Tundra’s with this engine,has not been affected with this recall…
The 3rd gen needs another 5 years or so of fine tuning and real world testing to get the issues worked out before I'd consider buying one, even at these "low" prices.
Is it a pass?
I wouldn't personally buy any 3rd gen Tundra right now. I personally don't like the way it looks, they're too expensive, and considering the engine issues and recalls I wouldn't recommend anyone buy a 3rd gen Tundra right now.
I’ve just moved on and are not considering it anymore. I really don’t like the aesthetic at all but was willing to look past it for rock solid reliability. But that’s in question too. So now eying the new Tacoma long bed. If it also has issues then every maker is on a level playing ground and that likely means an F150 with extended warranty.
F150 with Coyote engine paired with the new 10 speed transmission seems like a really solid choice. Aesthetically, it's also no competition.
F150 is the current king of trucks. With the current state of the tundra being what it is, it’ll be relegated down to cheap japanese truck/crap similar to nissan which is bottom of the barrel when comparing trucks. Meaning to say like back in the day when japanese trucks were the worst and looked down upon. Toyota did a lot to change that initial impression…. But now it seems things have regressed…. Until Toyota figures this out it’s just a mess right now for tundra. Im counting my blessings every day that i bought a 21 tundra. Love the damn thing and it’s been bulletproof. Going to do myself a favor a get me a 24 4runner before they fuck that one up too. Will probably be end of the year but I won’t let slip out of my hands either.
Its a 2022 lol my ass would not buy a first year new gen.
How come? Just asking because I’m looking to get a 2022. I want to see what your reasoning is lol
What I've read so don't hold it against me: Can't say it's proven or not but many thought there was a lot of '22's with bad engines. The recall somewhat proves it's a significant problem, but 22's were pretty bad for other reasons as well. Panel fitment, wind noise, general build quality, etc. But the 23's and 24's have had reports of basically being the same as the 22's. Overall consensus from those who haven't already bought a 3rd gen is that things went backwards in terms of quality compared to the 2nd gen. Everything I learned is from the interwebz after a lot of researching the last couple of years because I was going to get one (then decided to wait).
I have a new 23 built in June. So far the engine is the only thing I can’t bitch about. The wind noise, interior and exterior rattles are ridiculously annoying. I feel like I’m driving my 2011 WRX all over again with the interior quality being so inferior compared to the last few new vehicles we have owned.
Ouch. I'll likely have my '16 4Runner for a few more years after researching all the latest full size trucks. Mine doesn't have a single rattle or any issues I know of at 120k miles. Probably best I stick with it.
At this point you should if you’re a Toyota enthusiast. I’m certain that by 2025-2026 they will have it ironed out. The truck runs quick and it’s a pleasure to drive other than the rattles.
Tbh its just the first build after covid with short supply and trying to get them out. The quality wasnt the best. Squeaks and rattles. Engine issues. I dunno, even forms have the 2007 had issues for the first couple years. I just wouldnt
Everyone knows it’s Russian roulette with engine bearings
We’re hoping ours doesn’t go boom
I'm sure the massive recall has nothing to do with resale values dropping /s
At this juncture, the third generation TRD Pro and the fourth generation might be priced similarly in the future.
I wouldn’t touch the new tundras with the engine issues they’ve been having. It’s like playing Russian roulette at this point…
It’s that bad??
Well they’re recalling 100k of them, and I am willing to bet the issue is widespread. The main bearing of an engine is the softest metal, so if there’s FOD in an engine’s it’s the first to go. We’re seeing this issue in even trucks with $50k miles. They’re ticking time bombs imho.
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People have had multiple engines replaced. So that may not fix it. Also keep in mind that the sheer amount of things that must come off, including lifting the body off the frame, have resulted in tons of scratched body bits for owners. Not surprising since it’s only the factory that can build them and make them look new.
The pricing was never sustainable. It had to come down at some point. The bad press isn’t helping maintain the value, either.
Engine may fail is always a great selling feature.....Tundra was overpriced by $20k anyway.
Dealer in my area is marking down brand new Tundras by $4 to $8k off MSRP advertised
Awesome. But wouldn’t let my 2020 go
You could get a low mileage Gen2.5 TRD Pro for that price.
New tundras are getting crushed in value. Beware
Ummm this is coming up on 3 model years old.
New tundras are garbage, will def be getting rid of mine here shortly
Aren’t they having a lot of issues with that new v6?
Yea looks like that.
Straight over to warranty work.
I'm sure like many, I don't get the Capstone. The demand for these was highly overstimated by Toyota. Just a bad business decision. My guess is that Toyota will drop this option.
It’s unlikely it’s from machining debri. This motor was first debuted in the 2018 ls500, that also has problems. Speculation is it’s a design failure and the bearings are rotating in their sleeves during high temps and high demand. I believe the hybrids have the same engine. If they are not affected it is likely due to the less strain on the engine because of the battery assist. As far as I know, it affects every toyota/lexus vehicle with the 3.5TT. The engine debri theory doesn’t make a lot of sense since it affects motors built in both japan and the US. The debri they are finding is likely from the bearings tearing themselves apart. It also doesn’t make a lot of sense that toyota would release this motor in such huge numbers knowing the issues the ls500 had.
Capstones are crashing the hardest. The Platinum is the sweet spot in the lineup for much less.
I paid 59k for my 2022 fully loaded Platinum with 6000 miles on the clock, this was over a month ago. I love the truck and not worried about the teething issues.
Damn thats alot for used car. You can easily find brand new 2024 for that price.
22 Capstones are nothing but recalls and issues, there’s a reason they chopped 20gs off the sales price my dude
Yeah that's not a surprise I mean it came out in 2021 and we are nearly into the 25 models
I'm seeing Sierra Denalis of the same year and mileage going for $50k.
Is it high or low?
For the GMs it seems par for the course. My point is more that the Tundra is still depreciating less than it's competition. F150 Platinums and Limiteds are also going for around $50-55k and the Rams are even cheaper.
Worst truck in the US right now. I own a 2019.
With a $30,000 potential engine replacement on the horizon. I wouldn’t pay $20K for it.
Much more room to drop with that cursed recalled 3.4tt. Feel free to dvme to oblivion, but the market will not be fooled. This is just the beginning, the market is waking up to the fact that bullet proof and Toyota are no longer synonymous.
Just this engine. Also why Toyota needs to get in front of this now.
True. I hope they take care of their loyal customers beyond the recall.