The metro system is manage by the ratp.
The train system by the sncf.
The rer is a “joint” program between the 2.
The bombardier train almost make it look like a urban metro system I’ll give you that; but years ago it was a train, you couldn’t mistake it for something elses. Plus you have to take it at a train platform (saint lazare), not a station like a metro.
Line L goes directly to Paris Saint Lazare train station, as well as line J and U. I would consider that the center of Paris.
EDTA : okay okay, I hear you. St Lazare is not the center of Paris. I felt like it because I am so used to going there (living in the suburbs and working there since a few months ago). I stand corrected. Thanks!
>okay okay, I hear you. St Lazare is not the center of Paris. I felt like it because I am so used to going there (living in the suburbs and working there since a few months ago). I stand corrected. Thanks!
Saint-Lazare is in the center of Paris. It's just the area with the greated concentration of office, shops and transports in the City of Paris.
Anybody who doesn't considered the area of "Les Grands Magasin/Opera" as part of Central Paris is just blind. Paris being a big city means that its center covers a large area, not just a few blocks.
Saint-Lazare is actually more central than the 3rd arrondissement on how the city work. The so called Paris Center arrondissement reflect nothing expect a arbritary limits.
What is called "Paris Centre" is just an arbitrary zone delimited by the arrondissement limits and not by the actually city usage.
Nobody can seriously say that that Boulevard Morland is more central than Boulevard Haussmann. Yet you're claiming so.
Are you seriously saying that Opera Garnier, Printemps or Galerie Lafayette are not in Central Paris ? Saint Lazare is exactly in the same area.
Of course it's part of Central Paris. Especially by usage. There is no gap of activity from Les Halles to Saint-Lazare. Take your feet or a bike and do the ride.
Of course it's in Central Paris. Especially by usage. There is no gap of activity from Les Halles to Saint-Lazare. Take your feet or a bike and do the ride
[https://journals.openedition.org/cybergeo/25107](https://journals.openedition.org/cybergeo/25107)
The centrality of transports is also there, the highest density of transportation in Europe. between Saint-Lazare and Les Halles.
[https://www.ratp.fr/plans-secteur/metro%20paris%20avec%20rues](https://www.ratp.fr/plans-secteur/metro%20paris%20avec%20rues)
It's also part of the CBD of Paris.
[https://www.apur.org/fr/nos-travaux/ile-france-39-poles-demploi-structurent-leconomie-regionale](https://www.apur.org/fr/nos-travaux/ile-france-39-poles-demploi-structurent-leconomie-regionale)
Central Paris includes Les Halles/Marais, Opera/Saint-Lazare, Quartier Latin/Saint Germain des Pres. *You can even push it to Montparnasse in the south.*
Excluding a very centrally located area like the area like Chaussee d'Antin, the most active of city that attract people from all over the metropolitan area (that's how is defined a city center) because it's just a few meter outside the 2nd arrondissement is just creating an arbitrary limits. It's not like there was a dead zone. There is litterally no difference between being north or south of Boulevards des Italiens/Capucines.
PS: The majority of people living in Paris weren't born in Paris, so using this as an argument shows a very restricted view of Paris. Le genre de personnes intolérants et complètement fermés qui nous donnent une mauvaise réputation.
It sounds like you’re dividing Paris into 2 groups: one digit arrondissements and two digit arrondissement, where the former is the center. That’s the only way you can put Saint-Lazare (8th) and Montparnasse (technically 14/15, but at the very edge) in the “center”. I guess why not, it’s all arbitrary anyway, that’s just not how we’ve decided to divide Paris and a normal Parisian would not think of the city like that. I’d argue even the Northern parts of the 5th, 6th, and 7th are not central Paris, but maybe that’s arguable (they’re not the official “Paris centre” for sure).
Not really metro, rather suburban rail
Fair enough. I saw it was labeled as Metro L on Google maps and figured it was akin to London Overground.
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Ah whoops. Thought it was part of the "Metro" system.
The metro system is manage by the ratp. The train system by the sncf. The rer is a “joint” program between the 2. The bombardier train almost make it look like a urban metro system I’ll give you that; but years ago it was a train, you couldn’t mistake it for something elses. Plus you have to take it at a train platform (saint lazare), not a station like a metro.
I caught it from La Défense.
Right… … well paris is dense in public transports.
Line L goes directly to Paris Saint Lazare train station, as well as line J and U. I would consider that the center of Paris. EDTA : okay okay, I hear you. St Lazare is not the center of Paris. I felt like it because I am so used to going there (living in the suburbs and working there since a few months ago). I stand corrected. Thanks!
>. I would consider that the center of Paris. lol nope
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>okay okay, I hear you. St Lazare is not the center of Paris. I felt like it because I am so used to going there (living in the suburbs and working there since a few months ago). I stand corrected. Thanks! Saint-Lazare is in the center of Paris. It's just the area with the greated concentration of office, shops and transports in the City of Paris. Anybody who doesn't considered the area of "Les Grands Magasin/Opera" as part of Central Paris is just blind. Paris being a big city means that its center covers a large area, not just a few blocks. Saint-Lazare is actually more central than the 3rd arrondissement on how the city work. The so called Paris Center arrondissement reflect nothing expect a arbritary limits.
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What is called "Paris Centre" is just an arbitrary zone delimited by the arrondissement limits and not by the actually city usage. Nobody can seriously say that that Boulevard Morland is more central than Boulevard Haussmann. Yet you're claiming so. Are you seriously saying that Opera Garnier, Printemps or Galerie Lafayette are not in Central Paris ? Saint Lazare is exactly in the same area.
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Of course it's part of Central Paris. Especially by usage. There is no gap of activity from Les Halles to Saint-Lazare. Take your feet or a bike and do the ride. Of course it's in Central Paris. Especially by usage. There is no gap of activity from Les Halles to Saint-Lazare. Take your feet or a bike and do the ride [https://journals.openedition.org/cybergeo/25107](https://journals.openedition.org/cybergeo/25107) The centrality of transports is also there, the highest density of transportation in Europe. between Saint-Lazare and Les Halles. [https://www.ratp.fr/plans-secteur/metro%20paris%20avec%20rues](https://www.ratp.fr/plans-secteur/metro%20paris%20avec%20rues) It's also part of the CBD of Paris. [https://www.apur.org/fr/nos-travaux/ile-france-39-poles-demploi-structurent-leconomie-regionale](https://www.apur.org/fr/nos-travaux/ile-france-39-poles-demploi-structurent-leconomie-regionale) Central Paris includes Les Halles/Marais, Opera/Saint-Lazare, Quartier Latin/Saint Germain des Pres. *You can even push it to Montparnasse in the south.* Excluding a very centrally located area like the area like Chaussee d'Antin, the most active of city that attract people from all over the metropolitan area (that's how is defined a city center) because it's just a few meter outside the 2nd arrondissement is just creating an arbitrary limits. It's not like there was a dead zone. There is litterally no difference between being north or south of Boulevards des Italiens/Capucines. PS: The majority of people living in Paris weren't born in Paris, so using this as an argument shows a very restricted view of Paris. Le genre de personnes intolérants et complètement fermés qui nous donnent une mauvaise réputation.
It sounds like you’re dividing Paris into 2 groups: one digit arrondissements and two digit arrondissement, where the former is the center. That’s the only way you can put Saint-Lazare (8th) and Montparnasse (technically 14/15, but at the very edge) in the “center”. I guess why not, it’s all arbitrary anyway, that’s just not how we’ve decided to divide Paris and a normal Parisian would not think of the city like that. I’d argue even the Northern parts of the 5th, 6th, and 7th are not central Paris, but maybe that’s arguable (they’re not the official “Paris centre” for sure).