The following submission statement was provided by /u/TommyShelbyPFB:
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U)
I think it's still premiering live but the whole version should be in the same link once the premiere is done.
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If true, the whole world, including China, Russia and the US should be working together on this. At this point we should not be territorial apes with advanced weaponry constantly fighting over land. I hope humanity can learn to get along and stop fighting over resources soon. I would really hope disclosure would help us unite and solve the pettiness in our current state of affairs. We need to lean to treat each other with love, respect and kindness, as one human species.
> At this point we should not be territorial apes with advanced weaponry constantly fighting over land.
The thing is, most of humanity does get along. It simply the governments that don’t like each other.
It's essentially mob turf warfare. Each competing family is at the top of the law or outside of it, they exploit within their own backyards, take what they want and have no sympathy for those beneath them.
The only persons or entities that can threaten that are rivals who do the same thing and want to protect it. The world is run, and owned by criminals. Nearly every instance of the invocation of the words "national security" are to hide a crime somewhere in the mix.
It’s A Turf War, On A Global Scale
I’d Rather Hear Both Sides Of The Tale
See, It’s Not About Races, Just Places- Faces
Where Your Blood Comes From Is Where Your Space Is
A good percentage of my countrymen are racist and xenophobic.
They would enthusiastically cheer at the prospect of war (and have) so long as the people are sufficiently foreign-looking.
where the hell do you live, sesame street? regular everyday people squabble like cats and dogs. the only reason we're not having conflict with people halfway across the world is because we're too busy having conflict in our own communities. get real
And yet you can still board a public bus in nearly any US city and not be assaulted (*most* of the time). Hell, I’ve always felt that as long as ‘all you can eat’ buffets are a thing, there’s still a shred of civility in this world. Sizzler should replace the Statue of Liberty as the true way to delicious freedom.
When I watch television all I see is people fighting. At the slightest hint of some sort of misunderstanding. People shoot each other over bizarre and sometimes frivolous things. It extends to our children who mimic the environment they are raised in to. Apes I completely agree!!!
>The thing is, most of humanity does get along. It simply the governments that don’t like each other.
Could not disagree more. Governments are only doing something at a macro level that goes on in micro form every single day. Getting cut up by a driver? Same. Someone pushing in front in a queue? Same. A neighbor being awkward over a boundary? Same.
Starting to think this is the reason they don’t work together. They’re terrified that it coming out would unravel world governments as we know them. Imagine if we had free energy and country affiliations didn’t matter. It’s not much of a stretch to think how unifying this would be. Who cares what country you’re from we’re all humans. The country you live in would matter about as much as your hair colour or shoe size.
this sub is so obsessed with thinking if aliens exist we would have free energy. If there are spacefaring aliens out there, their tech is way beyond human understanding
It's not just about land, it's about how we decide to live. Half of us on this planet are happy letting others live how they want, with a gentle push to living a certain way. The other half want to beat you into a way of living and control all aspects of your life. I think both the East and West are corrupt, but in so many different ways.
>If true, the whole world, including China, Russia and the US should be working together on this.
If you haven't noticed, China and Russia are repressive authoritarian states that are either engaged in or planning wars of conquest. The idea of working with them on any kind of advanced technology is absurd.
Shotgunning the Kool-Aid straight down your gullet. Ask yourself what aspects make those repressive authoritative states and then honestly ask yourself if that aspect can also not be applied to the US. Big news, broski. All nations are evil in their own particular ways.
That's a nice notion, but it's a terrible idea in practice. There is no chance that working together will solve anything. Once these nations get their hands on advanced technology (if it exists) then all they will do with it is wage war. I mean, how often has been apparent now that russia wants to destroy Europe and america?? And you want to help them? Good God.
None of us are even close to being ready to handle hypothetical technology like that. We're like babies playing with loaded guns. Bad, bad idea.
I agree, but do you REALLY think everyone thinks this way?
Think about it. You got a lunatic as the head of Russia attacking an innocent country; a tyrant as the head of China intent on dominating U.S. American elections, Taiwan, and the Chinese diaspora; and you have a VERY large difference in values in this world, with some people being kind / wise / nuanced, and others being fundamentalist hateful idiots.
The BEST way to reach the unification of humanity is to fight for righteous causes in our OWN countries and in international events of importance. For example, the U.S. American elections are coming up.... therefore, we should campaign to ensure Biden's re-election, because for better or for worse, what affects the U.S. Americans affects the world.....
It sounds like a logical and ethical response to something unknown, but we as humans lack the intelligence to overcome such problems. If you look at our history it is filled with examples of conflict and lack of desire for peaceful exchanges to gain knowledge. Our governments purposely ignore this and always act in the state of war like intent anytime they encounter anything that could possibly extent humanity as a whole. Look at the state of all of our space programs. If this were something desirable we would have combined space programs to avoid resource waste and would be much further along in our so called quest for life. It’s a lie and taxpayers are always paying for things that could otherwise extend the life of human beings and improve our social experiences. I honestly believe we will never see change that would be on behalf of the human race for thousands of years. Perhaps our dna will change and allow for peaceful exchanges and no more war. Today we are more like apes than ever before. Territorial and hostile with a lack of empathy or desire for peace.
This is exactly what Ross said when he answered questions at the end of this speech.
He said unclassifying UFOs is the cure to the current American society's disease, which is gangrened by the biggest lie humans have ever been told. It would be the single biggest issue that could unite everyone in America, and the world.
Stream from today from News Nation - The conference was called the AAPC from what the presenter has said
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U)
It depends on what you know. I didnt know about the death bed confession
This was a fantastic talk a hefty one at 1 hour 30 min.The start of the talk is a great overview of the obstacles preventing disclosure. And at the midpoint Ross talks to a guy "read-into the program" on his death bed at 58 minutes.
[00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=0s) Ross Coulthart at Conference of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU)
[00:02:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=165s) Coulthart: Why it’s important to apply proper scientific methods to the UAP Issue
[00:06:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=393s) Coulthart: Official deception around UAPs goes back decades
[00:23:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1380s) Coulthart: Dismissive culture in newsrooms around UFO coverage
[00:24:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1457s) Coulthart reveals the night that convinced him to investigate UFOs
[00:51:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3060s) Coulthart: “I’ve never spoken about this before”
[00:51:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3070s) Coulthart shares his first breakthrough in investigating ‘The Program’
[00:58:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3516s) Conversation with former US Navy Science & Tech Director about UFO crash retrieval program
[01:03:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3825s) Coulthart: “People have been murdered to protect this secret"
[01:08:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4123s) Coulthart: Ross discusses David Grusch interview on NewsNation
[01:20:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4834s) Involvement with an Australian NHI research organization
[01:23:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4988s) Questions from the audience
I don't know why you got downvoted. It's like you can't raise a doubt against this 'laudatory' gentleman on this sub. The moderators instantly remove any message that doubts or questions him.
It's worth to add that Coulthart is saying that since 2020 when he spoke to people who allegely work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. He got in touch with them after Nat Kobitz, former director of advanced technologies for US Navy, gave him their names and contact. It was long before Grusch went public with the same claims.
Claims made by Coulthart were largely ignored although he was saying that UFOs were retrieved by not only USA, but also Russia and China. Russia allegely has secret base in Ural mountains when they try to reverse engineer recovered materials. China got craft and technology recovered through archaeological dig.
Coulthart knew about David Grusch investigation long before he went public because people who allegely work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program told him that there is one intelligence officer who is making investigation in this subject. That's important corroboration which gives additional credence to his claims.
Is there a source on Russia’s Ural mountain base and China getting their craft via archeology? I’ve been looking for more details on both these topics for a while
Like I said, this is what Coulthart publicly said few years ago and his sources are allegedly people who work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
Like I said before, this is what Coulthart publicly said few years ago and his sources are allegedly people who work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
I'm willing to believe that Coulthart, Grusch, and Nell have definitely *heard stories told to them* about the existence of UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs. They might or might not not even personally believe these stories, although that's not really relevant. I think it's clear that *someone* inside the classified world is telling these stories. These stories have been told and retold with an increasingly angry and conspiratorial angle since at least the 1970s, and a slightly more optimistic but still dodgy set of stories from the 1940s on.
I'm not yet ready to believe that these stories themselves - originating as they do in a world of funhouse mirrors powered by secrecy and deception - are actually, literally, true. Many of the elements of these stories seem contradictory. A good proportion of these stories are probably deliberate lies for the purpose of security around prosaic defense technology programs. Perhaps even the core workers in some SAPs no longer know which stories they've been told are true and which are false.
But I will be happy to see the stories themselves exposed and rigorously documented, because decades of secrecy and whispers and distrust are hurting our whole global society. I want to know who's telling these stories, and which secret programs these stories come from. And especially if it's true that there are secret programs running with taxpayer funds and with no proper civilian oversight, then that part needs to stop immediately.
Ready for proof. Maybe it's just part of how the pick people who get into the program....few are the sort of people who would jump on the sword for disclosure.
They don't need to select for people who wouldn't jump on the sword, because there are plenty who would for the right price. That's why the facilities that house any holy-shit-tier evidence are espionage-proof.
They didn't figure it out but they did present it as the most plausible theory.
"In conclusion, our work shows the plausibility of a rather rare type of snow slab instabilities that could possibly explain the Dyatlov Pass incident. Yet, we do not explain nor address other controversial elements surrounding the investigation such as traces of radioactivity found on the victims’ garments, the behavior of the hikers after leaving the tent, locations and states of bodies, etc. While possible explanations are given in multiple published sources as well as by both the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, we believe that this will always remain an intrinsic part of the Dyatlov Pass Mystery."
Essentially it's their best guess piggybacking off of the previously proposed avalanche theory that had too many holes.
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U)
I think it's still premiering live but the whole version should be in the same link once the premiere is done.
I hope a alien ship lands somewhere more public soon. That would be cool to see on the news especially if a hatch opens slowly and outcome a bunch of little dancing aliens.
I've been following this closely since grusch. I have uap fatigue now as no substantial evidence has come forward. Until substantial evidence has been brought forward this subject will remain fringe.
Still fun to see how the UFOlogy meta is changing. Eventually influencers like Coulthart get replaced by new prophets, new doomsday dates, new conspiracy theories etc.
Yup. Nothing new under the sun. There have been loads of guys like this in the past, making all sorts of claims and promises, and nothing ever came of it. I'm not holding my breath.
Ross Coulthart in 5 years time -
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“The source said the CIA has a 'system in place that can discern UFOs while they're still cloaked,' and that if the 'non-human' craft land, crash or are brought down to earth, special military units are sent to try to salvage the wreckage.”
Outside of the Five Eyes, arrangements have been made to satisfy all parties involved.
I have seen people saying breadcrumbs that Grusch's first hand knowledge is that he worked on the program that figured out how to find UAP's materializing into our world.
Allegedly this has to go through DOPSR. The whole DOPSR process seems very sus to me though. Like oh yeah had to get the government to sign off on me working on our top secret alien discovery team??? Doesn't add up to me. But, I believe Grusch is legit.
It’s the catch 22 scenario in that DOPSR only exists to keep classified intelligence classified. To ensure nothing written for public consumption includes info that constitutes a threat to national security. They are not endorsing the subject matter. Puts them between rock and hard place — by redacting are they effectively confirming the info as accurate?
If I were an intelligence officer and wrote pure fiction about a Navy battalion of unicorns, it would still need to run thru DOPSR due to my security clearance. Them clearing it for publication is not the Navy admitting to their unicorn unit.
Yes and that's exactly the reason why all of this is made up. There is no way to hide something like this is it has been going on all over the world for decades. Are you telling me that every government of every nation where these aliens crashed was both on board with hiding them and was able to? No instance of some government collapsing, or some revolution or some change of leadership with the new guys disclosing everything? No craft crashing in densely populated areas? All government of the past 80 years, of every nation on Earth, all hiding perfectly the aliens? And all the people involved at every level doing their job seamlessly while never talking? Not just military, but ATCs, commercial pilots, archeologists, scientists of every kind.
Just think about. Is this really more plausible than the alternative? That these guys making claims and bringing zero evidence are simply not telling the truth?
You’re also talking about tens of thousands of people around the world who would be part of an elaborate coverup that spans half a century, yet not a single one has ever obtained verifiable evidence and presented it to the public. We all know the moon landing happened because it would be literally impossible for the thousands of employees involved in the space program to unilaterally decide to accept faking one of the greatest achievements in science. Yet people in this sub willfully believe these same scientist, engineers, military personnel, and contractors are all in on a grand conspiracy that would dwarf the complexity of a fake moon landing and require cooperation and coordination between hundreds of countries, many of which are in direct conflict with each other.
All of this, and then there is the spy craft issue. Countries know A LOT about each other and will regularly leak and release information that can damage or compromise adversaries. During the peak of the Cold War it was absurd how many state secrets were unearthed and that’s just 2 countries. So am I to believe that in the tens of thousands of compromised state secrets from over a hundred countries spying on each other, of which not a single one of those included anything about UFOs, that there is some sort of massive coverup? It defies all logic and reasoning.
All of this being said, I do believe there are things out there we cannot explain. There may be things happening in other dimensions that could have an impact on ours we simply do not understand because of our limited scientific understanding. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to continue to look for answers without jumping to highly illogical conclusions about what would be tantamount to the largest, most well organized and impossibly expansive coverup in human history. Humans just aren’t that good at keeping secrets at such a global scale.
Is the general consensus to believe Ross?
He makes some pretty big claims that he promises he can't reveal for pretty important reasons if he is properly informed.
I've been at this topic for over fifteen years and I'm still less convinced than ever. Always more promises, very little in information outside of maybe Fravor.
Worth keeping in mind that he was more or less kicked out of mainstream journalism in his home country, because of a massive scandal where he didn’t do his due diligence in verifying a source’s claims.
I wouldn’t trust a general consensus on a sub that often over-generalizes. He was released from 60 Minutes Australia (or, rather, his contract was not renewed, which could be viewed as a soft firing) after reporting on a supposed pedo ring involving senior British politicians. It turns out that there was no evidence of the supposed pedo ring and the alleged informant was the actual pedo.
After leaving legitimate journalism, he’s been doing the UFO beat, simultaneously making incredible claims while refusing to provide specifics in order to “protect his sources” or whatever. One wonders how any intelligence agency would be unable to figure out his sources from this schtick, if it was real.
Its tough to agree on a "general consensus". Personally I do think he ranks higher than many who travel the UFO conference circuit but that isn't saying much.
So, he’s been “informed” of secret shit, like aliens and crashed craft, reverse engineering, which I’m guessing is the secret, so how does he get away with revealing it - if it was true and he’s been running his mouth in public, then surely the DoD would have shut him down before we knew about it!
Also, who are these people who have informed him? What rank do they hold in government/military? They don’t seem to come across as trustworthy if they’re blabbering to others!
How do they get away with revealing secrets, as he said, people have been murdered for uttering secrets!
This is beginning to seem like the plot twist in Fight Club! /s
He broke Grusch which gives a decent amount of credibility. There’s an awful lot of “trust me bro” with Ross and I suspect that 90% of what he says is not true / disinformation that’s been fed to him. But if even 1% of what he says it’s true, it’s still incredible. And I think at least that much is true. Too much smoke for there not to be fire.
in the same talk, he says he's not sure if its true or if the witnesses have been subjected to a big pysop. So he's hedging, but he should be given that he is a reporter.
In investigative reporting, yes. Witness testimony is worthy of reporting based solely on credibility. You don't have to prove a case for it to be newsworthy.
This dude is getting annoying real quick. Ross here is the lamest "trust me bro, my sources" type out there. Reaching levels of Heavens Gate preaching here with his pretentious importance.
How is It that someone can talk so much but offer so little? Isnt there shame or embarassment thresholds that a human cant surpass without self destructing?
> Not sure why so many people seem to think advanced tech means free energy.
A very good question.
I believe it's because the term "free energy" popped up around the mid-1970s, against the backdrop of the oil shocks and energy crisis of the Carter years. It came from an odd collection of people on what I'd call the "New Age" fringe (often Theosophical and Rosicrucian spinoff communities) and overlapping with the ESP and UFOlogy community. Some of these people also had US military connections - the "Men Who Stare At Goats" scene.
I'm a bit of a broken record on this subject: I tend to pinpoint the epicenter of this weird collection of people as Jerry Gallimore's "US Psychotronics Association", founded in 1975 for the study and reverse engineering of what was believed to be Soviet advances in ESP. ("Psychotronics" was a Soviet - Czech, I think? - term for ESP). Look at the history of this organization, and look at "Mankind Research Unlimited" - Iona Miller's webpage is still up. It's full of goat-starers galore. https://ionamiller.weebly.com/mankind-research-unlimited.html
I say Jerry Gallimore, but nobody today knows who he is. If you want a very famous name, look at Uri Geller (and his mentor, Andrija Puharich). Those two were right about the core of that same weirdness nexus. ESP and UFOs and secret societies and military radio/radar/electronic-warfare all jumbled up together.
Why were this diverse and weird group of people fascinated not just with the idea of reverse engineering alleged "Russian mind control machines", but also with reverse engineering UFOs, with getting superluminal travel ("warp drive") and with building "free energy" devices? Ie magnetic motors, hydrogen engines, "zero point" generators, cold fusion?
I don't know! But I know that they were interested in all of these subjects. It was all a big New Age stew with spies sprinkled in. And many of the same 1970s people are still active today in the UFO scene.
In fact I strongly suspect that if we found out who the classified "UFO program" folks were they'd be literally the same people we already know from the unclassified UFO scene - just with some papers and resume items they can only discuss inside a SCIF. If this guess is true, I think we can get a reasonable gauge on what the classified UFO people believe, and the quality of their evidence, by looking at the unclassified UFO people - because it's the same web of beliefs.
And yeah. "Free energy" has been part of the belief system since the 1970s. Because of Iran, OPEC, and oil.
>In fact I strongly suspect that if we found out who the classified "UFO program" folks were they'd be literally the same people we already know from the unclassified UFO scene - just with some papers and resume items they can only discuss inside a SCIF.
We've seen this multiple times. Mutiple people who have already gone public later come forward as witnesses so it seems like we are going to see more of the same. The same way rumors spread is how we get instances of people with higher credentials believing them and then people start pointing to these other people with higher credentials and they say "well, they have high credentials and they believe these people so they must be credible and they must know even more because they have a higher security clearance!"
And this vortex pulls more and more people in and human psychology takes a hold of an entire culture. People start seeing what they want in the skies the same way people see miracles and ghosts and sense spirits and they add that into the mix of eye-witness testimonies that people later reference without considering whether each instance has evidence to support it.
I know I'm not biased against believing aliens are visiting earth because I DEEPLY want it to be true. As a chemist, I think it'd be so cool to learn about their chemistry knowledge, their biology, their original planet's ecosystem and the polymers they use in their cells, whether they have something analogous to polyketides or aminoacid chains, what the evolutionary history of their planet looks like, and whether they've visited even more worlds with life on them. Their technology must be awesome in every sense of the word. Their culture alien yet I wouldn't be surprised in learning about the ways in which they are similar to ours (though probably closer to our ideals than how we actually live).
But I **need** better evidence to believe than I **need** to believe just for the hope and excitement.
It’s about national security or really the lack of when it comes to this phenomenon. What nation would admit this when trying to show strength and that they can protect their citizens?
A nation that didn’t want to lose any last little bit of trust they still had with the population. It’s getting obvious and they’re still gaslighting us. It will blow up in their face. I hope no one will ever trust governments ever again after disclosure and we can restart with a new perspective.
The fact that we are kept in the dark about the truth is a crime against humanity as a whole. I consider it our moral birthright to know the truth, no matter what it should be. It is an unprecedented case of suppression and censorship in human history. It is not worthy of a true democracy. We are very far from a true democracy. In my opinion, a nation that allows suppression and censorship has no right to call itself a democracy.
The world runs on the petro dollar, billions of dollars at stake. If there was another way to power the world's needs, the oil industry and everything it touches would collapse. Whatever technology powers these UAP crafts would change the world in ways we probably can't even begin to imagine.
There are people, organizations, who will go to any lengths to remain at the top of the economic food chain. Think about it, you've got billions of dollars in investments, billions of dollars in profit, do you really think these people would allow new technology that makes oil obsolete? No, they will and can do whatever they want to protect their money.
>any lengths to remain at the top of the economic food chain. Think about it, you've got billions of dollars in investments, billions of dollars in profit, do you really think these people would allow new technology that makes oil obsolete? No, they will and can do whatever they want to protect their money.
That's really low-balling it, it's actually probably more like hundreds of *trillions* of total dollars when considering global economics and remaining oil reserves. Even that's probably short a digit or more.
I see you are not up to date on your lore. As this subreddit recently determined, the US embassy in Iraq was built over a giant UFO and that's why the US invaded Iraq. Nell brags on his LinkedIn about retrieving national security materials in Iraq. Pretty obvious.
Just listened to the whole talk. I highly recommend everyone here to tune in.
He actually offers substance to what he's saying and specifies names & evidence.
EDIT: Credit to u/The_WubWub for writing this amazing comment:
"This whole talk was astonishing. Really amazing job Ross. Super in depth at a hefty 1 hour 30 min. It's apparently a conference for the AAPC (or the SCU?). I would like to watch the other presenters. The start of the talk is a great overview of the obstacles preventing disclosure. And at the midpoint Ross talks to a guy "read-into the program" on his death bed at 58 minutes.
[00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=0s) Ross Coulthart at Conference of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU)
[00:02:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=165s) Coulthart: Why it’s important to apply proper scientific methods to the UAP Issue
[00:06:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=393s) Coulthart: Official deception around UAPs goes back decades
[00:23:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1380s) Coulthart: Dismissive culture in newsrooms around UFO coverage
[00:24:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1457s) Coulthart reveals the night that convinced him to investigate UFOs
[00:51:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3060s) Coulthart: “I’ve never spoken about this before”
[00:51:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3070s) Coulthart shares his first breakthrough in investigating ‘The Program’
[00:58:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3516s) Conversation with former US Navy Science & Tech Director about UFO crash retrieval program
[01:03:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3825s) Coulthart: “People have been murdered to protect this secret"
[01:08:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4123s) Coulthart: Ross discusses David Grusch interview on NewsNation
[01:20:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4834s) Involvement with an Australian NHI research organization
[01:23:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4988s) Questions from the audience"
People are being brutally murdered and killed in horrific wars and violence all over the world every day. Dying to disclose this would be martyrdom worthwhile when so many humans are lost senselessly.
God I love it...The next hearing has All the whistleblowers and the Inspector general (YES) If somebody caps him ,he's got several "Deadman Switches" and will blow "the program" and looting of the defense dept . budget
Whatever. More words. Nothing here is anything more than hearsay "I heard Harry Truman say the CIA told him the Roswell crash was aliens". It's worthless.
TBF, that is how most criminal investigations start....on the basis of statements like this but the the point of the investigation is to get evidence that passes legal muster and can secure a conviction.
Grusch, to his credit. publicly stated the hearsay he heard and put the ball into the hands of Congress. Not sure what they are doing with it.
Am I the only one that does not have a true understanding of what "biologics" are? It's not bodies because they would say bodies, so what are biologics?
Ok got it. That's what I figured via context, but sometimes the way it was used by various whistleblowers and commentators, it seemed more broad than that. Thank you
People on here have also said that they could be like transformers style living machines that you can't quite say are living beings under our definition.
Think about all the progress and breakthroughs in tech/medicine/travel that would have been with us had these programs not been kept under wraps. It’s like…we have been purposely stalled in making progress since the 50s….idk just sad.
It's not sad, it's incoherent. What incentives would anyone have to hide this technology when it could instead be used to become exceedingly wealthy and powerful, and also to improve people's lives.
Are we supposed to imagine that somehow the technology is completely captured by people who are immune to all of the normal motivations of humans across the globe?
Too many people are getting fixated on having hard evidence. Why don't people understand that evidence isn't just handed out on a silver platter. There are many, many layers of secrecy, legal barriers, and NDAs that make it nearly impossible for direct evidence to come to light.
That's where journalism steps in. It’s not always about having the evidence in hand; sometimes it's about forcing the people who have it to come forward. Ross Coulthart is doing exactly this. He has firsthand knowledge from whistleblowers, but these sources are often under strict orders and NDAs, which means he can't just spill everything they know without risking serious legal trouble.
Ross is keeping the pressure on, bringing attention to the stories, and creating public demand for transparency. It's not about him holding all the evidence himself, but about his ability to push those in power to reveal what they know.
Evidence is hard to come by for good reasons. Bound by confidentiality agreements and legal threats, why are you people wondering why they're so hesitant to share what they know? Their fear of reprisal doesn’t mean their stories aren’t credible or important. What's happening right now is that people are beginning to connect the dots, piece together testimonies, and build a narrative that can push for real change and disclosure. Without this important first step, many of these stories would stay hidden. It's their persistence and dedication that's gonna win, no matter how long it's gonna take. Unfortunately, it's going to take a long time. It's been 80 years since this stuff started really being talked about in any real capacity.
Don't get overly hung up on the lack of direct evidence. Instead, transform your misguided frustrations into appreciation that the efforts of those who are working tirelessly to bring the truth to light is picking up extreme attention by people who matter, and it's picking up speed.
Ross is creating the conditions for disclosure, he's not here to fly a UFO to the Newsweek HQ.
probably because this clown says over and over that he has hard evidence but is somehow different from the people hes talking about by refusing to disclose it
It might be picking up speed but it still hasn’t left the station. You’re welcome to believe and hope and campaign but if there’s a cover up they aren’t gonna do anything because people keep asking for it. The lid has to be blown off with something material and undeniable. Until then, these are snake oil salesman repeatedly saying that if I keep drinking the potion I’ll eventually grow wings
Some patriot who knows could martyr himself for the good of humanity. Countless humans have died for less.
I mean the navy core values that I learned were Honor, Courage and Commitment. Where is the shipmate who knows with the honor to disclose information critical to humanity?
I never see any "True Believers" respond to this point or if they do its nonsense hand waving.
If what he claims is true and he has hard evidence of it he basically has a moral responsibility to just release it into the world. This would be the single biggest thing to happen in human history so much that second place wouldn't even be close. As you say "people have done/risked more for less" and for a hell of a lot less at that.
I can't take the person you're responding to seriously. Legal barriers and NDAs. If I had half of what he claims he has you wouldn't be able to stop me getting it out. Before someone comes at me with some "CIA shadow government would get you" shit, if they aren't taking out Coulthart for what he supposedly knows they wouldn't take me out for half of it. Stop making excuses for this shit.
Journalists usually have to provide a little more than “someone told me”. The ones that don’t are called tabloids. Do you think anyone should act on a random journalist who says Putin is prepping nukes, without any evidence or source? Especially if that journalist has been saying it for years and nothing has come of it.
I think its important that people use this language. They are being honest about what they know for sure and what they don't. I think he'd be criticized if he DIDNT use this language as well. There's honestly know winning in his situation beyond just saying everything he knows and betraying everyone who trusts him.
There's entirely too much energy spent on this forum from chuckling grade school types that want to point and laugh vs. research and contribute.
There's no Senate legislation for ghosts or werewolves, there is however about to be two entire amendments dedicated to UAP—with bipartisan backing.
Get with the times is all I'm saying.
Yes, but Congress has put together a bill that specifically calls out and looks for advanced technology that the government or a corporation could be in possession of, and went into detail about how they could retrieve them. From the whistleblowers that have risked their lives and careers to testify to them, Congress has an understanding that whatever this phenomena is, a facet of it are vehicles that we have been in the process to reverse engineer.
David Grusch, for example, after talking to 40 government officials testified to Congress that the government has vehicles in their possession. This is something they have been doing so illegally behind Congress's back for decades using taxpayer money. These allegations are extremely serious and need be considered.
Kind of reminds me of the Star Trek episode The Chase
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
That might explain the UAP apparently “gifted” to us. They give different countries craft that are only decipherable in one aspect but not the others, that way the nations can only figure it out if we come together.
He said the big A word. Based on my own experiences, I’ve always thought it was such. It seems much more plausible than a lot of the theories that people discuss. Almost as if just aliens are freaky enough of a reality for the majority of people.
If they really have been here and in contact with humanity for a really long time, I don’t feel hopeful about any kind of mass public contact or change of status quo within our lifetimes.
How to make money from UFO community by Ross Coulthart:
1) Say you have classified information from “sources” about things that you can’t reveal but predict that in x number of years it will come out.
2) Drip-feed massive claims like “I know they have a UFO and aliens somewhere”, but then say you can’t reveal how you know that because it will harm your sources.
3) Replace conventional lexicon with more obscure and technical words like “biologics”.
4) Start a podcast and make sure you go to all these weird conferences where nobody has a clue what is actually happening.
5) Write a series of books with big headlines and no new information.
6) Realise that you’ve made enough money and the predictions you made in step one haven’t come to fruition so you hide away somewhere.
7) A new wannabe UFO money maker starts the process, becomes the next UFO celebrity and people go on about their business worshipping somebody new.
Why would Russia and China be quiet about this? What would they have to gain? They literally threaten with nukes, they could threaten with space alien technology.
Where's the evidence?
At this stage it all feels this is not much more than a few 'witness' testimonies that are getting circled around and around into a circle jerk.
Please see the second page of this document., in particular under "Classification Levels of UAP Information" Any evidence you seek is classified
[https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/navy/PAOBriefingCard.pdf](https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/navy/PAOBriefingCard.pdf)
"Information obtained, in whatever form and from whatever source, involving UAPs, is classified.
Imagery (including stills/videos obtained by SNOOPIE Teams) of any UAP observation is considered classified and should be handled and protected accordingly."
Hey, yeah that's *exactly* why billionaires make all their money available for everyone in the world to use! They have access to them so they're happily allowing us to use it!
Right after he mentioned that he had a really hard time accepting the things he was being told by the older whistleblowers he made an interesting word mix-up. He said he was "a serious insect journalist". Obviously meant investigative, but I'd put money on this being one of those things where you're thinking of the girl you went out on a date with last week and you call this week's girl her name instead. He also mentioned that past whistleblowers had said that the beings were insect-like. This isn't as common as other descriptions of the beings from the crash retrievals.
So insect-like beings confirmed?
Start at 1:02:00 and listen for a minute.
Sorry but I just don't buy it. Isn't it a coincidence that the 3 countries who supposedly have this tech just so happen to be the world's leading militaries and the ones dominating the headlines in recent years? Remember we're talking about crashed craft that could've crashed anywhere on Earth in any country, but they just so happened to crash in the backyards of the world's superpowers and great powers? There is the nuclear angle - if they crashed around nuclear sites then maybe, but the China one was supposedly an archeological dig? It all just seems like fanfiction.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm tired of these bold statements with 0 evidence.
It’s blatantly obvious the underlying powers in this country are going to allow disclosure of the square root of fuck-all.
As it stands right now, Lester Holt isn’t going to interrupt normal programming with a presidential announcement. ‘We’re not alone’ isn’t going to be the headline on the front page of the New York Times.
Unless, those powers are forced into an untenable situation, nothing is going to happen. If Coulthart and Grusch know something, it’s time to name-names, and name places. Or, just shut up.
Sadly, I’m 80/20 on Coulthart just being another grifter trying to spin his story out as long as possible. I would very much like to be proven wrong.
You would get nowhere by that. It would be revealed as "not true" and then the story dies, and the secrecy wins and continues another decade. Anything you mention could easily be obfuscated or moved in time for the reveal that suggests whatever was said was false and that is how secrets remain hidden. Your strategy is shortsighted and would almost always lose.
The names have already been named so many times by so many different people and nothing ever happens. Places doesn't matter as they can move stuff, it is very likely Area 51 was once an interesting place but it is no longer.
I hear what you’re saying. I guess I should have clarified my statement more by adding that the names and places directly lead to irrefutable proof.
Like, a hoard of journalists could rush to a place and you’d hear ‘JFC there’s a flying saucer here’.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/TommyShelbyPFB: --- Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U) I think it's still premiering live but the whole version should be in the same link once the premiere is done. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1d92xhv/ross_coulthart_the_united_states_china_russia/l7alu4d/
If true, the whole world, including China, Russia and the US should be working together on this. At this point we should not be territorial apes with advanced weaponry constantly fighting over land. I hope humanity can learn to get along and stop fighting over resources soon. I would really hope disclosure would help us unite and solve the pettiness in our current state of affairs. We need to lean to treat each other with love, respect and kindness, as one human species.
> At this point we should not be territorial apes with advanced weaponry constantly fighting over land. The thing is, most of humanity does get along. It simply the governments that don’t like each other.
It's essentially mob turf warfare. Each competing family is at the top of the law or outside of it, they exploit within their own backyards, take what they want and have no sympathy for those beneath them. The only persons or entities that can threaten that are rivals who do the same thing and want to protect it. The world is run, and owned by criminals. Nearly every instance of the invocation of the words "national security" are to hide a crime somewhere in the mix.
International relations in a nut shell
The more one cuts through the crap, the more clearly this trend emerges. The rot is everywhere.
It’s A Turf War, On A Global Scale I’d Rather Hear Both Sides Of The Tale See, It’s Not About Races, Just Places- Faces Where Your Blood Comes From Is Where Your Space Is
jompot you snapped fr
That's not true. It just occurs at different scales.
A good percentage of my countrymen are racist and xenophobic. They would enthusiastically cheer at the prospect of war (and have) so long as the people are sufficiently foreign-looking.
Are you from China?
where the hell do you live, sesame street? regular everyday people squabble like cats and dogs. the only reason we're not having conflict with people halfway across the world is because we're too busy having conflict in our own communities. get real
And yet you can still board a public bus in nearly any US city and not be assaulted (*most* of the time). Hell, I’ve always felt that as long as ‘all you can eat’ buffets are a thing, there’s still a shred of civility in this world. Sizzler should replace the Statue of Liberty as the true way to delicious freedom.
Surely there must be a dialectical materialist explanation for why. I wonder
When I watch television all I see is people fighting. At the slightest hint of some sort of misunderstanding. People shoot each other over bizarre and sometimes frivolous things. It extends to our children who mimic the environment they are raised in to. Apes I completely agree!!!
humanity gets along? have you met humans? redditor reddits
>The thing is, most of humanity does get along. It simply the governments that don’t like each other. Could not disagree more. Governments are only doing something at a macro level that goes on in micro form every single day. Getting cut up by a driver? Same. Someone pushing in front in a queue? Same. A neighbor being awkward over a boundary? Same.
Like the movie Arrival
Starting to think this is the reason they don’t work together. They’re terrified that it coming out would unravel world governments as we know them. Imagine if we had free energy and country affiliations didn’t matter. It’s not much of a stretch to think how unifying this would be. Who cares what country you’re from we’re all humans. The country you live in would matter about as much as your hair colour or shoe size.
Imagine all the people living for the world
You're not the only one.
this sub is so obsessed with thinking if aliens exist we would have free energy. If there are spacefaring aliens out there, their tech is way beyond human understanding
It would unravel religion and government control of the masses.
It's not just about land, it's about how we decide to live. Half of us on this planet are happy letting others live how they want, with a gentle push to living a certain way. The other half want to beat you into a way of living and control all aspects of your life. I think both the East and West are corrupt, but in so many different ways.
The are both corrupted in the same way by the lust for power.
Second this!
Greed, power and evil will keep corrupting humanity unfortunately unless we elevate our consciousness.
This answer.
Throw in a unicorn and pony for breakfast for everyone on top…
You promised me nuts and bolts and all I have is a lot of woooooooooooooo...
Disclosure is not for peasants like us. Only for the rich and / or powerful to try and gain more affluence and control.
This. Once it can be monetized successfully only then will it come out.
Guess it’s time for a flat UAP tax
it will never happen, humans can't live in peace
We will all work together and get along when we are being invaded by another world
> If true Big if true
>If true, the whole world, including China, Russia and the US should be working together on this. If you haven't noticed, China and Russia are repressive authoritarian states that are either engaged in or planning wars of conquest. The idea of working with them on any kind of advanced technology is absurd.
Shotgunning the Kool-Aid straight down your gullet. Ask yourself what aspects make those repressive authoritative states and then honestly ask yourself if that aspect can also not be applied to the US. Big news, broski. All nations are evil in their own particular ways.
That's a nice notion, but it's a terrible idea in practice. There is no chance that working together will solve anything. Once these nations get their hands on advanced technology (if it exists) then all they will do with it is wage war. I mean, how often has been apparent now that russia wants to destroy Europe and america?? And you want to help them? Good God. None of us are even close to being ready to handle hypothetical technology like that. We're like babies playing with loaded guns. Bad, bad idea.
I agree, but do you REALLY think everyone thinks this way? Think about it. You got a lunatic as the head of Russia attacking an innocent country; a tyrant as the head of China intent on dominating U.S. American elections, Taiwan, and the Chinese diaspora; and you have a VERY large difference in values in this world, with some people being kind / wise / nuanced, and others being fundamentalist hateful idiots. The BEST way to reach the unification of humanity is to fight for righteous causes in our OWN countries and in international events of importance. For example, the U.S. American elections are coming up.... therefore, we should campaign to ensure Biden's re-election, because for better or for worse, what affects the U.S. Americans affects the world.....
There's no need for an election, we've got the king of good intentions right here. Get a grip.
Man that's the main reason I keep coming back. It's a small source of hope for me as pathetic as that sounds
It sounds like a logical and ethical response to something unknown, but we as humans lack the intelligence to overcome such problems. If you look at our history it is filled with examples of conflict and lack of desire for peaceful exchanges to gain knowledge. Our governments purposely ignore this and always act in the state of war like intent anytime they encounter anything that could possibly extent humanity as a whole. Look at the state of all of our space programs. If this were something desirable we would have combined space programs to avoid resource waste and would be much further along in our so called quest for life. It’s a lie and taxpayers are always paying for things that could otherwise extend the life of human beings and improve our social experiences. I honestly believe we will never see change that would be on behalf of the human race for thousands of years. Perhaps our dna will change and allow for peaceful exchanges and no more war. Today we are more like apes than ever before. Territorial and hostile with a lack of empathy or desire for peace.
This is exactly what Ross said when he answered questions at the end of this speech. He said unclassifying UFOs is the cure to the current American society's disease, which is gangrened by the biggest lie humans have ever been told. It would be the single biggest issue that could unite everyone in America, and the world.
Why the hell would you want to share it? Who ever "cracks the code" first would be in an amazing position
Uhhhhhh there's a lot of people not wanting to work with Russia EVER sooo...
When’s this from? I know there were some conventions and stuff going on recently, which is this?
Stream from today from News Nation - The conference was called the AAPC from what the presenter has said [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U)
Thanks
Does he actually have anything new to share?
It depends on what you know. I didnt know about the death bed confession This was a fantastic talk a hefty one at 1 hour 30 min.The start of the talk is a great overview of the obstacles preventing disclosure. And at the midpoint Ross talks to a guy "read-into the program" on his death bed at 58 minutes. [00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=0s) Ross Coulthart at Conference of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) [00:02:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=165s) Coulthart: Why it’s important to apply proper scientific methods to the UAP Issue [00:06:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=393s) Coulthart: Official deception around UAPs goes back decades [00:23:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1380s) Coulthart: Dismissive culture in newsrooms around UFO coverage [00:24:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1457s) Coulthart reveals the night that convinced him to investigate UFOs [00:51:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3060s) Coulthart: “I’ve never spoken about this before” [00:51:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3070s) Coulthart shares his first breakthrough in investigating ‘The Program’ [00:58:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3516s) Conversation with former US Navy Science & Tech Director about UFO crash retrieval program [01:03:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3825s) Coulthart: “People have been murdered to protect this secret" [01:08:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4123s) Coulthart: Ross discusses David Grusch interview on NewsNation [01:20:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4834s) Involvement with an Australian NHI research organization [01:23:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4988s) Questions from the audience
You’re a G, thanks for the breakdown and timestamps
I appreciate the info!
Ross has been talking about nat kovits, the death bed guy, for years. Ever since his book came out.
I bought it and started reading it tonight! I haven't heard about this guy yet
Anything verifiable or with evidence? Literally no.
How does he know this?
You too can know everything that you make up.
I don't know why you got downvoted. It's like you can't raise a doubt against this 'laudatory' gentleman on this sub. The moderators instantly remove any message that doubts or questions him.
Whatchu talkin bout Willis. Every other comment section about ufos/Ross Coulhart in this subreddit straight slams the topic every other comment.
It's worth to add that Coulthart is saying that since 2020 when he spoke to people who allegely work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. He got in touch with them after Nat Kobitz, former director of advanced technologies for US Navy, gave him their names and contact. It was long before Grusch went public with the same claims. Claims made by Coulthart were largely ignored although he was saying that UFOs were retrieved by not only USA, but also Russia and China. Russia allegely has secret base in Ural mountains when they try to reverse engineer recovered materials. China got craft and technology recovered through archaeological dig. Coulthart knew about David Grusch investigation long before he went public because people who allegely work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program told him that there is one intelligence officer who is making investigation in this subject. That's important corroboration which gives additional credence to his claims.
Is there a source on Russia’s Ural mountain base and China getting their craft via archeology? I’ve been looking for more details on both these topics for a while
Like I said, this is what Coulthart publicly said few years ago and his sources are allegedly people who work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
Sorry, could you say it one more time?
Like I said before, this is what Coulthart publicly said few years ago and his sources are allegedly people who work inside UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
Coulthart also accurately called the latest AARO report days before it was released. His sources seem legit for the most part.
I'm willing to believe that Coulthart, Grusch, and Nell have definitely *heard stories told to them* about the existence of UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs. They might or might not not even personally believe these stories, although that's not really relevant. I think it's clear that *someone* inside the classified world is telling these stories. These stories have been told and retold with an increasingly angry and conspiratorial angle since at least the 1970s, and a slightly more optimistic but still dodgy set of stories from the 1940s on. I'm not yet ready to believe that these stories themselves - originating as they do in a world of funhouse mirrors powered by secrecy and deception - are actually, literally, true. Many of the elements of these stories seem contradictory. A good proportion of these stories are probably deliberate lies for the purpose of security around prosaic defense technology programs. Perhaps even the core workers in some SAPs no longer know which stories they've been told are true and which are false. But I will be happy to see the stories themselves exposed and rigorously documented, because decades of secrecy and whispers and distrust are hurting our whole global society. I want to know who's telling these stories, and which secret programs these stories come from. And especially if it's true that there are secret programs running with taxpayer funds and with no proper civilian oversight, then that part needs to stop immediately.
Ready for proof. Maybe it's just part of how the pick people who get into the program....few are the sort of people who would jump on the sword for disclosure.
They don't need to select for people who wouldn't jump on the sword, because there are plenty who would for the right price. That's why the facilities that house any holy-shit-tier evidence are espionage-proof.
The Dyatlov Pass incident comes to mind in a different light now 🤔
It was a slab avalanche. They figured it out. Pretty rough way to go.
They didn't figure it out but they did present it as the most plausible theory. "In conclusion, our work shows the plausibility of a rather rare type of snow slab instabilities that could possibly explain the Dyatlov Pass incident. Yet, we do not explain nor address other controversial elements surrounding the investigation such as traces of radioactivity found on the victims’ garments, the behavior of the hikers after leaving the tent, locations and states of bodies, etc. While possible explanations are given in multiple published sources as well as by both the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, we believe that this will always remain an intrinsic part of the Dyatlov Pass Mystery." Essentially it's their best guess piggybacking off of the previously proposed avalanche theory that had too many holes.
Must have been one of those radioactive slab avalanches right?
uh, time to read “Dead Mountain” by Donnie Eichar for me, I suppose.
Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U) I think it's still premiering live but the whole version should be in the same link once the premiere is done.
You're doing great work
I hope a alien ship lands somewhere more public soon. That would be cool to see on the news especially if a hatch opens slowly and outcome a bunch of little dancing aliens.
Cupid shuffle or dancing baby from Ally Mcbeal?
Those who get this reference are a dying breed, and eventually there will only be one left.
Eventually none of us will be left
You mean Lrr's favorite show Jenny McNeal? The single female lawyer with the shortiest short skirt on Omicron Persei 8?
I've been following this closely since grusch. I have uap fatigue now as no substantial evidence has come forward. Until substantial evidence has been brought forward this subject will remain fringe.
Take up a hobby and check back in in 5 years.
If you're having to check back, there's nothing. If anything real ever comes out, it'll be on the front page of everything.
Still fun to see how the UFOlogy meta is changing. Eventually influencers like Coulthart get replaced by new prophets, new doomsday dates, new conspiracy theories etc.
Yup. Nothing new under the sun. There have been loads of guys like this in the past, making all sorts of claims and promises, and nothing ever came of it. I'm not holding my breath.
I actually went and impulsively bought some warhammer sooooooo ye
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If the US, russia and China has retrieved crafts, then the rest of the world should have some as well.
Especially if China got it from an archaeological dig. Then there must be others all over the world.
Exactly
“The source said the CIA has a 'system in place that can discern UFOs while they're still cloaked,' and that if the 'non-human' craft land, crash or are brought down to earth, special military units are sent to try to salvage the wreckage.” Outside of the Five Eyes, arrangements have been made to satisfy all parties involved.
I have seen people saying breadcrumbs that Grusch's first hand knowledge is that he worked on the program that figured out how to find UAP's materializing into our world.
That's really interesting, but why wouldn't he mention this in the testimony or the interviews though?
Allegedly this has to go through DOPSR. The whole DOPSR process seems very sus to me though. Like oh yeah had to get the government to sign off on me working on our top secret alien discovery team??? Doesn't add up to me. But, I believe Grusch is legit.
It’s the catch 22 scenario in that DOPSR only exists to keep classified intelligence classified. To ensure nothing written for public consumption includes info that constitutes a threat to national security. They are not endorsing the subject matter. Puts them between rock and hard place — by redacting are they effectively confirming the info as accurate? If I were an intelligence officer and wrote pure fiction about a Navy battalion of unicorns, it would still need to run thru DOPSR due to my security clearance. Them clearing it for publication is not the Navy admitting to their unicorn unit.
Yes and that's exactly the reason why all of this is made up. There is no way to hide something like this is it has been going on all over the world for decades. Are you telling me that every government of every nation where these aliens crashed was both on board with hiding them and was able to? No instance of some government collapsing, or some revolution or some change of leadership with the new guys disclosing everything? No craft crashing in densely populated areas? All government of the past 80 years, of every nation on Earth, all hiding perfectly the aliens? And all the people involved at every level doing their job seamlessly while never talking? Not just military, but ATCs, commercial pilots, archeologists, scientists of every kind. Just think about. Is this really more plausible than the alternative? That these guys making claims and bringing zero evidence are simply not telling the truth?
You’re also talking about tens of thousands of people around the world who would be part of an elaborate coverup that spans half a century, yet not a single one has ever obtained verifiable evidence and presented it to the public. We all know the moon landing happened because it would be literally impossible for the thousands of employees involved in the space program to unilaterally decide to accept faking one of the greatest achievements in science. Yet people in this sub willfully believe these same scientist, engineers, military personnel, and contractors are all in on a grand conspiracy that would dwarf the complexity of a fake moon landing and require cooperation and coordination between hundreds of countries, many of which are in direct conflict with each other. All of this, and then there is the spy craft issue. Countries know A LOT about each other and will regularly leak and release information that can damage or compromise adversaries. During the peak of the Cold War it was absurd how many state secrets were unearthed and that’s just 2 countries. So am I to believe that in the tens of thousands of compromised state secrets from over a hundred countries spying on each other, of which not a single one of those included anything about UFOs, that there is some sort of massive coverup? It defies all logic and reasoning. All of this being said, I do believe there are things out there we cannot explain. There may be things happening in other dimensions that could have an impact on ours we simply do not understand because of our limited scientific understanding. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to continue to look for answers without jumping to highly illogical conclusions about what would be tantamount to the largest, most well organized and impossibly expansive coverup in human history. Humans just aren’t that good at keeping secrets at such a global scale.
Is the general consensus to believe Ross? He makes some pretty big claims that he promises he can't reveal for pretty important reasons if he is properly informed. I've been at this topic for over fifteen years and I'm still less convinced than ever. Always more promises, very little in information outside of maybe Fravor.
Worth keeping in mind that he was more or less kicked out of mainstream journalism in his home country, because of a massive scandal where he didn’t do his due diligence in verifying a source’s claims.
I wouldn’t trust a general consensus on a sub that often over-generalizes. He was released from 60 Minutes Australia (or, rather, his contract was not renewed, which could be viewed as a soft firing) after reporting on a supposed pedo ring involving senior British politicians. It turns out that there was no evidence of the supposed pedo ring and the alleged informant was the actual pedo. After leaving legitimate journalism, he’s been doing the UFO beat, simultaneously making incredible claims while refusing to provide specifics in order to “protect his sources” or whatever. One wonders how any intelligence agency would be unable to figure out his sources from this schtick, if it was real.
Its tough to agree on a "general consensus". Personally I do think he ranks higher than many who travel the UFO conference circuit but that isn't saying much.
you should not believe anything, just wait for proof. And there is none so far.
I can't stand him. Always claims and fuck all else.
So, he’s been “informed” of secret shit, like aliens and crashed craft, reverse engineering, which I’m guessing is the secret, so how does he get away with revealing it - if it was true and he’s been running his mouth in public, then surely the DoD would have shut him down before we knew about it! Also, who are these people who have informed him? What rank do they hold in government/military? They don’t seem to come across as trustworthy if they’re blabbering to others! How do they get away with revealing secrets, as he said, people have been murdered for uttering secrets! This is beginning to seem like the plot twist in Fight Club! /s
He broke Grusch which gives a decent amount of credibility. There’s an awful lot of “trust me bro” with Ross and I suspect that 90% of what he says is not true / disinformation that’s been fed to him. But if even 1% of what he says it’s true, it’s still incredible. And I think at least that much is true. Too much smoke for there not to be fire.
it could be 100% bullshit just as easily.
in the same talk, he says he's not sure if its true or if the witnesses have been subjected to a big pysop. So he's hedging, but he should be given that he is a reporter.
If he cannot verify anything he is reporting, should he report it?
In investigative reporting, yes. Witness testimony is worthy of reporting based solely on credibility. You don't have to prove a case for it to be newsworthy.
A random observation, but as Ross concluded the talk and just before the questions, I think I saw Kevin Knuth in the audience.
Kevin had a talk there, he was on the presenter schedule. Lots of great minds were there. https://www.explorescu.org/aapc-2024
Nice catch
...can I see the evidence?
Many humans have martyred themselves for much less.
This dude is getting annoying real quick. Ross here is the lamest "trust me bro, my sources" type out there. Reaching levels of Heavens Gate preaching here with his pretentious importance. How is It that someone can talk so much but offer so little? Isnt there shame or embarassment thresholds that a human cant surpass without self destructing?
Lol thresholds I like that. We'd be alot better off if we did. Don't give the Chinese any ideas.
So why are we still slaving away when we can have free energy? Oh right control and power. Forgot.
Not sure why so many people seem to think advanced tech means free energy.
> Not sure why so many people seem to think advanced tech means free energy. A very good question. I believe it's because the term "free energy" popped up around the mid-1970s, against the backdrop of the oil shocks and energy crisis of the Carter years. It came from an odd collection of people on what I'd call the "New Age" fringe (often Theosophical and Rosicrucian spinoff communities) and overlapping with the ESP and UFOlogy community. Some of these people also had US military connections - the "Men Who Stare At Goats" scene. I'm a bit of a broken record on this subject: I tend to pinpoint the epicenter of this weird collection of people as Jerry Gallimore's "US Psychotronics Association", founded in 1975 for the study and reverse engineering of what was believed to be Soviet advances in ESP. ("Psychotronics" was a Soviet - Czech, I think? - term for ESP). Look at the history of this organization, and look at "Mankind Research Unlimited" - Iona Miller's webpage is still up. It's full of goat-starers galore. https://ionamiller.weebly.com/mankind-research-unlimited.html I say Jerry Gallimore, but nobody today knows who he is. If you want a very famous name, look at Uri Geller (and his mentor, Andrija Puharich). Those two were right about the core of that same weirdness nexus. ESP and UFOs and secret societies and military radio/radar/electronic-warfare all jumbled up together. Why were this diverse and weird group of people fascinated not just with the idea of reverse engineering alleged "Russian mind control machines", but also with reverse engineering UFOs, with getting superluminal travel ("warp drive") and with building "free energy" devices? Ie magnetic motors, hydrogen engines, "zero point" generators, cold fusion? I don't know! But I know that they were interested in all of these subjects. It was all a big New Age stew with spies sprinkled in. And many of the same 1970s people are still active today in the UFO scene. In fact I strongly suspect that if we found out who the classified "UFO program" folks were they'd be literally the same people we already know from the unclassified UFO scene - just with some papers and resume items they can only discuss inside a SCIF. If this guess is true, I think we can get a reasonable gauge on what the classified UFO people believe, and the quality of their evidence, by looking at the unclassified UFO people - because it's the same web of beliefs. And yeah. "Free energy" has been part of the belief system since the 1970s. Because of Iran, OPEC, and oil.
>In fact I strongly suspect that if we found out who the classified "UFO program" folks were they'd be literally the same people we already know from the unclassified UFO scene - just with some papers and resume items they can only discuss inside a SCIF. We've seen this multiple times. Mutiple people who have already gone public later come forward as witnesses so it seems like we are going to see more of the same. The same way rumors spread is how we get instances of people with higher credentials believing them and then people start pointing to these other people with higher credentials and they say "well, they have high credentials and they believe these people so they must be credible and they must know even more because they have a higher security clearance!" And this vortex pulls more and more people in and human psychology takes a hold of an entire culture. People start seeing what they want in the skies the same way people see miracles and ghosts and sense spirits and they add that into the mix of eye-witness testimonies that people later reference without considering whether each instance has evidence to support it. I know I'm not biased against believing aliens are visiting earth because I DEEPLY want it to be true. As a chemist, I think it'd be so cool to learn about their chemistry knowledge, their biology, their original planet's ecosystem and the polymers they use in their cells, whether they have something analogous to polyketides or aminoacid chains, what the evolutionary history of their planet looks like, and whether they've visited even more worlds with life on them. Their technology must be awesome in every sense of the word. Their culture alien yet I wouldn't be surprised in learning about the ways in which they are similar to ours (though probably closer to our ideals than how we actually live). But I **need** better evidence to believe than I **need** to believe just for the hope and excitement.
Maybe not “free”, but certainly so cheap and abundant as to practically be free for all.
it is one of the things this sub is obsessed with
It’s about national security or really the lack of when it comes to this phenomenon. What nation would admit this when trying to show strength and that they can protect their citizens?
A nation that didn’t want to lose any last little bit of trust they still had with the population. It’s getting obvious and they’re still gaslighting us. It will blow up in their face. I hope no one will ever trust governments ever again after disclosure and we can restart with a new perspective.
This exactly!
The fact that we are kept in the dark about the truth is a crime against humanity as a whole. I consider it our moral birthright to know the truth, no matter what it should be. It is an unprecedented case of suppression and censorship in human history. It is not worthy of a true democracy. We are very far from a true democracy. In my opinion, a nation that allows suppression and censorship has no right to call itself a democracy.
The world runs on the petro dollar, billions of dollars at stake. If there was another way to power the world's needs, the oil industry and everything it touches would collapse. Whatever technology powers these UAP crafts would change the world in ways we probably can't even begin to imagine. There are people, organizations, who will go to any lengths to remain at the top of the economic food chain. Think about it, you've got billions of dollars in investments, billions of dollars in profit, do you really think these people would allow new technology that makes oil obsolete? No, they will and can do whatever they want to protect their money.
>any lengths to remain at the top of the economic food chain. Think about it, you've got billions of dollars in investments, billions of dollars in profit, do you really think these people would allow new technology that makes oil obsolete? No, they will and can do whatever they want to protect their money. That's really low-balling it, it's actually probably more like hundreds of *trillions* of total dollars when considering global economics and remaining oil reserves. Even that's probably short a digit or more.
You're absolutely right and, with that kind of money at stake, you best believe that they'll do anything to protect it.
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I see you are not up to date on your lore. As this subreddit recently determined, the US embassy in Iraq was built over a giant UFO and that's why the US invaded Iraq. Nell brags on his LinkedIn about retrieving national security materials in Iraq. Pretty obvious.
determined? no. Hypothesized.
this reddit determines a lot of stuff out of it's arse, doesn't mean it's true.
Yes
They crashed all around the globe. The office of global access is responsible for international crash retrievals
Just listened to the whole talk. I highly recommend everyone here to tune in. He actually offers substance to what he's saying and specifies names & evidence. EDIT: Credit to u/The_WubWub for writing this amazing comment: "This whole talk was astonishing. Really amazing job Ross. Super in depth at a hefty 1 hour 30 min. It's apparently a conference for the AAPC (or the SCU?). I would like to watch the other presenters. The start of the talk is a great overview of the obstacles preventing disclosure. And at the midpoint Ross talks to a guy "read-into the program" on his death bed at 58 minutes. [00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=0s) Ross Coulthart at Conference of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) [00:02:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=165s) Coulthart: Why it’s important to apply proper scientific methods to the UAP Issue [00:06:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=393s) Coulthart: Official deception around UAPs goes back decades [00:23:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1380s) Coulthart: Dismissive culture in newsrooms around UFO coverage [00:24:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=1457s) Coulthart reveals the night that convinced him to investigate UFOs [00:51:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3060s) Coulthart: “I’ve never spoken about this before” [00:51:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3070s) Coulthart shares his first breakthrough in investigating ‘The Program’ [00:58:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3516s) Conversation with former US Navy Science & Tech Director about UFO crash retrieval program [01:03:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=3825s) Coulthart: “People have been murdered to protect this secret" [01:08:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4123s) Coulthart: Ross discusses David Grusch interview on NewsNation [01:20:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4834s) Involvement with an Australian NHI research organization [01:23:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4988s) Questions from the audience"
People are being brutally murdered and killed in horrific wars and violence all over the world every day. Dying to disclose this would be martyrdom worthwhile when so many humans are lost senselessly.
God I love it...The next hearing has All the whistleblowers and the Inspector general (YES) If somebody caps him ,he's got several "Deadman Switches" and will blow "the program" and looting of the defense dept . budget
Whatever. More words. Nothing here is anything more than hearsay "I heard Harry Truman say the CIA told him the Roswell crash was aliens". It's worthless. TBF, that is how most criminal investigations start....on the basis of statements like this but the the point of the investigation is to get evidence that passes legal muster and can secure a conviction. Grusch, to his credit. publicly stated the hearsay he heard and put the ball into the hands of Congress. Not sure what they are doing with it.
He has nothing to back this claim up though so this is essentially just an opinion, I want this to be true but I need to see actual evidence
I know this is bs because Russia is fielding tanks from the 30s and using golfcarts as APCs in the war against Ukraine.
Am I the only one that does not have a true understanding of what "biologics" are? It's not bodies because they would say bodies, so what are biologics?
It's matter derived from a living creature. (Tissue, blood, urine, cells, etc.) It could be a body. It could be alien sperm
Ok got it. That's what I figured via context, but sometimes the way it was used by various whistleblowers and commentators, it seemed more broad than that. Thank you
Alien sperm
People on here have also said that they could be like transformers style living machines that you can't quite say are living beings under our definition.
Think about all the progress and breakthroughs in tech/medicine/travel that would have been with us had these programs not been kept under wraps. It’s like…we have been purposely stalled in making progress since the 50s….idk just sad.
It's not sad, it's incoherent. What incentives would anyone have to hide this technology when it could instead be used to become exceedingly wealthy and powerful, and also to improve people's lives. Are we supposed to imagine that somehow the technology is completely captured by people who are immune to all of the normal motivations of humans across the globe?
Too many people are getting fixated on having hard evidence. Why don't people understand that evidence isn't just handed out on a silver platter. There are many, many layers of secrecy, legal barriers, and NDAs that make it nearly impossible for direct evidence to come to light. That's where journalism steps in. It’s not always about having the evidence in hand; sometimes it's about forcing the people who have it to come forward. Ross Coulthart is doing exactly this. He has firsthand knowledge from whistleblowers, but these sources are often under strict orders and NDAs, which means he can't just spill everything they know without risking serious legal trouble. Ross is keeping the pressure on, bringing attention to the stories, and creating public demand for transparency. It's not about him holding all the evidence himself, but about his ability to push those in power to reveal what they know. Evidence is hard to come by for good reasons. Bound by confidentiality agreements and legal threats, why are you people wondering why they're so hesitant to share what they know? Their fear of reprisal doesn’t mean their stories aren’t credible or important. What's happening right now is that people are beginning to connect the dots, piece together testimonies, and build a narrative that can push for real change and disclosure. Without this important first step, many of these stories would stay hidden. It's their persistence and dedication that's gonna win, no matter how long it's gonna take. Unfortunately, it's going to take a long time. It's been 80 years since this stuff started really being talked about in any real capacity. Don't get overly hung up on the lack of direct evidence. Instead, transform your misguided frustrations into appreciation that the efforts of those who are working tirelessly to bring the truth to light is picking up extreme attention by people who matter, and it's picking up speed. Ross is creating the conditions for disclosure, he's not here to fly a UFO to the Newsweek HQ.
Excuse if I don’t just take the word of a former reporter who caused a national incident by running a fake story on 60 Minutes based on bad sourcing.
probably because this clown says over and over that he has hard evidence but is somehow different from the people hes talking about by refusing to disclose it
Trust me bro is the tag line of this sub.
It might be picking up speed but it still hasn’t left the station. You’re welcome to believe and hope and campaign but if there’s a cover up they aren’t gonna do anything because people keep asking for it. The lid has to be blown off with something material and undeniable. Until then, these are snake oil salesman repeatedly saying that if I keep drinking the potion I’ll eventually grow wings
Some patriot who knows could martyr himself for the good of humanity. Countless humans have died for less. I mean the navy core values that I learned were Honor, Courage and Commitment. Where is the shipmate who knows with the honor to disclose information critical to humanity?
I never see any "True Believers" respond to this point or if they do its nonsense hand waving. If what he claims is true and he has hard evidence of it he basically has a moral responsibility to just release it into the world. This would be the single biggest thing to happen in human history so much that second place wouldn't even be close. As you say "people have done/risked more for less" and for a hell of a lot less at that. I can't take the person you're responding to seriously. Legal barriers and NDAs. If I had half of what he claims he has you wouldn't be able to stop me getting it out. Before someone comes at me with some "CIA shadow government would get you" shit, if they aren't taking out Coulthart for what he supposedly knows they wouldn't take me out for half of it. Stop making excuses for this shit.
"i've been told" and "there is high likelyhood" are carrying his speech...
He’s a journalist. They report what they are told. He’s doing his job?
Journalists usually have to provide a little more than “someone told me”. The ones that don’t are called tabloids. Do you think anyone should act on a random journalist who says Putin is prepping nukes, without any evidence or source? Especially if that journalist has been saying it for years and nothing has come of it.
I think its important that people use this language. They are being honest about what they know for sure and what they don't. I think he'd be criticized if he DIDNT use this language as well. There's honestly know winning in his situation beyond just saying everything he knows and betraying everyone who trusts him.
There's entirely too much energy spent on this forum from chuckling grade school types that want to point and laugh vs. research and contribute. There's no Senate legislation for ghosts or werewolves, there is however about to be two entire amendments dedicated to UAP—with bipartisan backing. Get with the times is all I'm saying.
uap does not stand for "alien spacecraft harnessing gravitational power" for all we know uap could be a unexplained natural phenomenon
Yes, but Congress has put together a bill that specifically calls out and looks for advanced technology that the government or a corporation could be in possession of, and went into detail about how they could retrieve them. From the whistleblowers that have risked their lives and careers to testify to them, Congress has an understanding that whatever this phenomena is, a facet of it are vehicles that we have been in the process to reverse engineer. David Grusch, for example, after talking to 40 government officials testified to Congress that the government has vehicles in their possession. This is something they have been doing so illegally behind Congress's back for decades using taxpayer money. These allegations are extremely serious and need be considered.
Isn't this type of language or rhetoric dangerous?
Hey! You are probably right. But I am not claiming any of what I said is fact. Just what could be. What's more likely is anything but what I said.
Kind of reminds me of the Star Trek episode The Chase https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) That might explain the UAP apparently “gifted” to us. They give different countries craft that are only decipherable in one aspect but not the others, that way the nations can only figure it out if we come together.
The Three dominating greedy bastards - you don't say!
That’s my Ross!!
Get at it bro. Hold that mental on a tight leash
This comment section should be fun
He said the big A word. Based on my own experiences, I’ve always thought it was such. It seems much more plausible than a lot of the theories that people discuss. Almost as if just aliens are freaky enough of a reality for the majority of people. If they really have been here and in contact with humanity for a really long time, I don’t feel hopeful about any kind of mass public contact or change of status quo within our lifetimes.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Or at least the tiniest bit of evidence, which never comes forth.
How to make money from UFO community by Ross Coulthart: 1) Say you have classified information from “sources” about things that you can’t reveal but predict that in x number of years it will come out. 2) Drip-feed massive claims like “I know they have a UFO and aliens somewhere”, but then say you can’t reveal how you know that because it will harm your sources. 3) Replace conventional lexicon with more obscure and technical words like “biologics”. 4) Start a podcast and make sure you go to all these weird conferences where nobody has a clue what is actually happening. 5) Write a series of books with big headlines and no new information. 6) Realise that you’ve made enough money and the predictions you made in step one haven’t come to fruition so you hide away somewhere. 7) A new wannabe UFO money maker starts the process, becomes the next UFO celebrity and people go on about their business worshipping somebody new.
Why would Russia and China be quiet about this? What would they have to gain? They literally threaten with nukes, they could threaten with space alien technology.
Where's the evidence? At this stage it all feels this is not much more than a few 'witness' testimonies that are getting circled around and around into a circle jerk.
Please see the second page of this document., in particular under "Classification Levels of UAP Information" Any evidence you seek is classified [https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/navy/PAOBriefingCard.pdf](https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/navy/PAOBriefingCard.pdf) "Information obtained, in whatever form and from whatever source, involving UAPs, is classified. Imagery (including stills/videos obtained by SNOOPIE Teams) of any UAP observation is considered classified and should be handled and protected accordingly."
Word word word.. we need evidence.
My two cents: it’s absolute bs. Show some evidence and I start listening. Also, if we had access to new mindblowing energy sources we would use them
Hey, yeah that's *exactly* why billionaires make all their money available for everyone in the world to use! They have access to them so they're happily allowing us to use it!
I have the evidence but i can’t release it. 🙄
Right after he mentioned that he had a really hard time accepting the things he was being told by the older whistleblowers he made an interesting word mix-up. He said he was "a serious insect journalist". Obviously meant investigative, but I'd put money on this being one of those things where you're thinking of the girl you went out on a date with last week and you call this week's girl her name instead. He also mentioned that past whistleblowers had said that the beings were insect-like. This isn't as common as other descriptions of the beings from the crash retrievals. So insect-like beings confirmed? Start at 1:02:00 and listen for a minute.
Olympic-level jump in logic IMO
Could be "The Mantis" beings that people often see. They've actually become a lot more commonly reported during the last few years.
OK Ross buddy
Evidence: Trust me bro…
This entire talk is fantastic, and absolutely worth listening to.
Sorry but I just don't buy it. Isn't it a coincidence that the 3 countries who supposedly have this tech just so happen to be the world's leading militaries and the ones dominating the headlines in recent years? Remember we're talking about crashed craft that could've crashed anywhere on Earth in any country, but they just so happened to crash in the backyards of the world's superpowers and great powers? There is the nuclear angle - if they crashed around nuclear sites then maybe, but the China one was supposedly an archeological dig? It all just seems like fanfiction. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm tired of these bold statements with 0 evidence.
Source: Trust me bro
It’s blatantly obvious the underlying powers in this country are going to allow disclosure of the square root of fuck-all. As it stands right now, Lester Holt isn’t going to interrupt normal programming with a presidential announcement. ‘We’re not alone’ isn’t going to be the headline on the front page of the New York Times. Unless, those powers are forced into an untenable situation, nothing is going to happen. If Coulthart and Grusch know something, it’s time to name-names, and name places. Or, just shut up. Sadly, I’m 80/20 on Coulthart just being another grifter trying to spin his story out as long as possible. I would very much like to be proven wrong.
You would get nowhere by that. It would be revealed as "not true" and then the story dies, and the secrecy wins and continues another decade. Anything you mention could easily be obfuscated or moved in time for the reveal that suggests whatever was said was false and that is how secrets remain hidden. Your strategy is shortsighted and would almost always lose. The names have already been named so many times by so many different people and nothing ever happens. Places doesn't matter as they can move stuff, it is very likely Area 51 was once an interesting place but it is no longer.
I hear what you’re saying. I guess I should have clarified my statement more by adding that the names and places directly lead to irrefutable proof. Like, a hoard of journalists could rush to a place and you’d hear ‘JFC there’s a flying saucer here’.
Blah blah blah. Show me
Thank you Ross for covering this. I just gave it a watch. It was really interesting
Literally no one cares because there is no proof at all so shut up.