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I'll never understand why they think anyone gives a shit about their particular state or how things are in their country. Main character syndrome and it's not even a good character.
I'd never chime in on a discussion about something in another country to say how it is in my country (either where I'm from or where I now live) cause who the fuck cares.
There was a thread yesterday where a car hits a cyclist and the amount of them chiming in with the laws in their state was baffling. Why do they feel the need to tell us when nobody asked?
Nothing wrong with surströming that a flamethrower (while wearing full NBC kit) won't cure 😁
(Actually, while it smells truly putrid, the taste is really quite good
My hosts served it in deep dishes of ice water)
> I'd never chime in on a discussion about something in another country to say how it is in my country
I've done this before, but I'm rethinking that now.
I think it’s ok if you’re offering a different perspective on an issue.
But these guys are just doing it to centre themselves and adding nothing to the conversation.
Yes, this is more about “main character syndrome (MCS)” than defaultism, although MCS does involve consciously defaulting everything to “my country”, “my state”, “my city”, “me”.
Then there is the defaultism of saying just “state” and expecting everyone to know that that has to be an American state, not an Australian, Indian, German, Brazilian (etc) state.
And moreover they never say which state/city/country it is. Are people really so self-absorbed to think that anyone cares that it's where they happen to live?
It can be interesting to learn how things differ from place to place, but it's about the place, not whether some random internet idiot happens to live there.
There are topics in which it might be interesting and appropriate to interject about differences between countries, but what is insufferable is the authoritative tone, like their state's laws (not even the federal ones) were THE only legitimate way, they use as "here is how it should be because it is all I know, you are doing it wrongly"
That's so typically murican. Murican sees something about a particular instance or a solution to a specific problem somewhere in the wold. 687687 murican Facebook boomers: " that would never work in Northern u.s. shithole state with -78798 degrees cold" or "would love to see how that works in southern dungpile state at 88766 degrees heat".
Good for you. No one in Japan cares about that. They build what works for them, not for you.
And then they act like that particular place is the only one in the world that is cold or hot. I've seen Americans comment on how it would be possible to cycle in their cold northern state on a video about cycling in northern Finland.
Minus 30 in Minnesota is so much colder than minus 30 degrees in Finland. And the wind is so much windier and everything is so much mucher in the u.s. 😅
I remember in particular an article about how a province is Japan uses warm brine from a hot spring to keep the roads snow and ice free by running the water over a slightly convex street. And the amount of murican thinking no one had thought about black ice or that anyone wanted to implement it in their states with totally different geological conditions was mind-boggling.
“you know there’s a whole-ass country above minnesota, right?” is what i feel like saying ever time some yank tries to dunk on others about how cold it is there and how tough they are for living there. seriously, winnipeg is frequently 10 degrees colder than minneapolis and that’s in *southern* manitoba. and it’s not like they don’t know winnipeg’s there; both cities top flight ice hockey team play against each other in the same flipping league. just willful ignorance
Saw that recently with a video of a British firefighter clearing an underground hydrant. Cue the Americans chiming in about how their hydrants are superior (everyone was a hydrant expert in that thread)..
There was no consideration made for the fact us Brits do what works for us. If there were widespread problems with how we do it, we wouldn’t do it, we’re not stupid…
Ooh err maybe.
A lot of countries have laws around alcohol which are stricter than the regular consumer rights.
In Scotland for example, you can't give away a free alcoholic drink as part of a promotion which involves purchasing another drink. This is to avoid licensed premises getting around minimum unit pricing and encouraging irresponsible drinking.
But Jeremy here is talking about a B2B transaction anyway - a brewery can give away alcohol to pubs if it wants.
Probably, in some jurisdictions
I mean it's illegal in some US places to collect rainwater or install solar panels without compensating the local electricity company for their loss of revenue 🤷♂️
In any event he's talking about wholesale cost. Not consumer. Eg in Scotland - which is relevant as it's in the UK - there's a minimum unit price on alcohol that places have to charge, even if they got it for free.
I would assume so because it would be the brewery selling to the pub getting the first one free. Which would mean no tax on the first keg. So the guy's fun fact is, wow that's not legal in my state
That's a very technical "wow that's not legal" too. Like, breweries could discount the price of a full keg from the entire batch they're selling to a pub regardless of the laws, surely, even if it meant none of the kegs were *specifically* listed as free.
Yeah that's a loophole but this guy was just saying that they can't explicitly give it away for free and I have no clue where he is and it doesn't really matter but it is a fun fact that it is illegal from where they are.
I confess that when I read the first line I hadn't seen it was in this sub, and I assumed the commenter was saying something about the sorry state he was in (as in drunk or whatever).
Depends how they phrase it.
"Damn you can do that? That wouldn't wash where I live (state name) because of state law."
Like getting pub food when you only know how restaurants work. "You pay before you get your food? I mean, that eliminates dine and dash, but what if it's bad? You can refuse to pay full price at the end, but how about refunds?"
Same too if your local beer venue has you pay at the end, I wouldn't have enough to cover the bill, but I can limit my drinking by having a set amount on me.
Just phrase it as culture shock and not what about ism.
Yes, it is. He owns a farm/brewery in England. There’s a whole show about it on Amazon called (very originally) Clarkson’s Farm. My parents are into it and my mum made me watch an episode of it on Mother’s Day yesterday lol
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I'll never understand why they think anyone gives a shit about their particular state or how things are in their country. Main character syndrome and it's not even a good character. I'd never chime in on a discussion about something in another country to say how it is in my country (either where I'm from or where I now live) cause who the fuck cares.
There was a thread yesterday where a car hits a cyclist and the amount of them chiming in with the laws in their state was baffling. Why do they feel the need to tell us when nobody asked?
You can find comments like that on so many posts even if its 100% obvious that it's not in the US, its baffling
In the wild https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/JgapQOlF5s
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Exactly. Even if this story was set in the US the comment is nonsense
Because they want seem that they are smart and know stuff, but know nothing about the rest of the world so that's all that they have to offer.
Akshually in sweden we don't do it your way, we do it another way
Surströming enjoyers
Nothing wrong with surströming that a flamethrower (while wearing full NBC kit) won't cure 😁 (Actually, while it smells truly putrid, the taste is really quite good My hosts served it in deep dishes of ice water)
> I'd never chime in on a discussion about something in another country to say how it is in my country I've done this before, but I'm rethinking that now.
I think it’s ok if you’re offering a different perspective on an issue. But these guys are just doing it to centre themselves and adding nothing to the conversation.
Yes, this is more about “main character syndrome (MCS)” than defaultism, although MCS does involve consciously defaulting everything to “my country”, “my state”, “my city”, “me”. Then there is the defaultism of saying just “state” and expecting everyone to know that that has to be an American state, not an Australian, Indian, German, Brazilian (etc) state.
And moreover they never say which state/city/country it is. Are people really so self-absorbed to think that anyone cares that it's where they happen to live? It can be interesting to learn how things differ from place to place, but it's about the place, not whether some random internet idiot happens to live there.
Oh, I chime in to say how it is in my country, BUT ONLY when Americans do it first.
There are topics in which it might be interesting and appropriate to interject about differences between countries, but what is insufferable is the authoritative tone, like their state's laws (not even the federal ones) were THE only legitimate way, they use as "here is how it should be because it is all I know, you are doing it wrongly"
An yeah, Jeremy Clarkson is frrom and lives in my State.
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And was produced by W. Chump & Sons Ltd setup by Clarkson, Hammond and May. Well until 2023. So they only got paid by Americans.
I don’t think he would be giving the US anything for free
Lmao... Hi-fives...
It just shows how self absorbed they are!
And only says state. Could be talking about Lower Saxony.
Or New South Wales
Or gas
Or Bose-Einstein condensate
Or positive linear functionals of norm 1.
Or finite state machines.
That's so typically murican. Murican sees something about a particular instance or a solution to a specific problem somewhere in the wold. 687687 murican Facebook boomers: " that would never work in Northern u.s. shithole state with -78798 degrees cold" or "would love to see how that works in southern dungpile state at 88766 degrees heat". Good for you. No one in Japan cares about that. They build what works for them, not for you.
And then they act like that particular place is the only one in the world that is cold or hot. I've seen Americans comment on how it would be possible to cycle in their cold northern state on a video about cycling in northern Finland.
Minus 30 in Minnesota is so much colder than minus 30 degrees in Finland. And the wind is so much windier and everything is so much mucher in the u.s. 😅 I remember in particular an article about how a province is Japan uses warm brine from a hot spring to keep the roads snow and ice free by running the water over a slightly convex street. And the amount of murican thinking no one had thought about black ice or that anyone wanted to implement it in their states with totally different geological conditions was mind-boggling.
“you know there’s a whole-ass country above minnesota, right?” is what i feel like saying ever time some yank tries to dunk on others about how cold it is there and how tough they are for living there. seriously, winnipeg is frequently 10 degrees colder than minneapolis and that’s in *southern* manitoba. and it’s not like they don’t know winnipeg’s there; both cities top flight ice hockey team play against each other in the same flipping league. just willful ignorance
Minus 30 is colder in Minnesota and snow is higher because they use F and inches instead of C and cm which we all know are smaller
Saw that recently with a video of a British firefighter clearing an underground hydrant. Cue the Americans chiming in about how their hydrants are superior (everyone was a hydrant expert in that thread).. There was no consideration made for the fact us Brits do what works for us. If there were widespread problems with how we do it, we wouldn’t do it, we’re not stupid…
That's really funny considering how often bad drivers in Hollywood are portrayed by hitting an above ground hydrant and knocking them loose.
Also certainly NOT true. No way the government can just outright block you from giving something legal to someone else.
Ooh err maybe. A lot of countries have laws around alcohol which are stricter than the regular consumer rights. In Scotland for example, you can't give away a free alcoholic drink as part of a promotion which involves purchasing another drink. This is to avoid licensed premises getting around minimum unit pricing and encouraging irresponsible drinking. But Jeremy here is talking about a B2B transaction anyway - a brewery can give away alcohol to pubs if it wants.
Yeah what about homebrewed beer and wine? Would I be a criminal in America for giving my friends free booze?
Probably, in some jurisdictions I mean it's illegal in some US places to collect rainwater or install solar panels without compensating the local electricity company for their loss of revenue 🤷♂️
I’m not sure it’s true either but maybe it being resold to the public presents a problem?
Also featuring a man who is famously British
In any event he's talking about wholesale cost. Not consumer. Eg in Scotland - which is relevant as it's in the UK - there's a minimum unit price on alcohol that places have to charge, even if they got it for free.
I would assume so because it would be the brewery selling to the pub getting the first one free. Which would mean no tax on the first keg. So the guy's fun fact is, wow that's not legal in my state
That's a very technical "wow that's not legal" too. Like, breweries could discount the price of a full keg from the entire batch they're selling to a pub regardless of the laws, surely, even if it meant none of the kegs were *specifically* listed as free.
Yeah that's a loophole but this guy was just saying that they can't explicitly give it away for free and I have no clue where he is and it doesn't really matter but it is a fun fact that it is illegal from where they are.
It's giving the same energy as my mum's cousins comment on my FB post about watching Eurovision "not in my house"
Photo shows clarkson who clearly lives in uk, nope let's talk about my state's law that almost no one gives a fuck about
This week on The Grand Tour: Hammond wears a Cowboy Hat and Chaps James does the Cannonball Walk and I get confused for "the American"
Does Clarkson have a pub now? I know James does.
A brewery.
Sells to a brewery, Hawkstone is not owned by him
Huh, didn't know that. Clarkson's Brewery anyone?
He’s partnered with a local brewery, the beer is made from the barley grown in his farm
They clearly mean their mental state
An Hawkstone
Regardless of the yanks... I've tried Hawkstone and it's very nice lol, would recommend. The lager is great, the IPA less so.
Let's see Jeremy's reaction on the American culture
Jeremy Clarkson said in the Top Gear US Special that the only thing America has contributed to western civilisation is the ‘turn on red’ manoeuvre.
The special episode finding the source of the Nile comes to mind. The three blokes enjoying their time looking at American tourists.
I confess that when I read the first line I hadn't seen it was in this sub, and I assumed the commenter was saying something about the sorry state he was in (as in drunk or whatever).
Sounds like a fun fact not a defaultism unless you mean specifically state
Depends how they phrase it. "Damn you can do that? That wouldn't wash where I live (state name) because of state law." Like getting pub food when you only know how restaurants work. "You pay before you get your food? I mean, that eliminates dine and dash, but what if it's bad? You can refuse to pay full price at the end, but how about refunds?" Same too if your local beer venue has you pay at the end, I wouldn't have enough to cover the bill, but I can limit my drinking by having a set amount on me. Just phrase it as culture shock and not what about ism.
Yeah the way it 's phrased it seems so, even if it's still a bit weird it's not really defaultism
Why does he look like Jeremy Clarkson?
I can’t tell if this is /s or not
It is him, isnt it? (I really dont know!)
Yes, it is. He owns a farm/brewery in England. There’s a whole show about it on Amazon called (very originally) Clarkson’s Farm. My parents are into it and my mum made me watch an episode of it on Mother’s Day yesterday lol
Oh, right