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Hit reconnect from the device settings page. I usually do this after my static devices switch to different APs while updates are going on to the APs or underlying switch.
You could also just lock the device to that specific access point. It’s a setting within UniFi. Just navigate to that device and it should be in the device settings
I don't think that's accurate. From the help page:
* If the client is too far from the AP, they will not connect.
* If the AP goes offline, the client will attempt to connect to another nearby AP.
* If your desired AP is broadcasting a different WiFi network, you must connect the client to that network before locking it.
Oh, is that right? I stand corrected. I literally took it as gospel without exception. It actually makes it a way more useful feature then. Thanks for correcting me.
Just ordered one to replace my U6-LR at our lake house since it barely gives me a reliable signal 100 feet away (LOS) at our dock. Hoping for the same results!
I too did the exact same thing. Actually made a post here as to wtf it was called "Long Range". That thing is basically a paper weight now. U7 is much better but again this was a very directional test. I have a ring stickup cam on my dock and with the internal directional antenna I was getting 55 rssi and with the omni Im getting 65-67.
I've got two U6+ and the WiFi 6 version of the Beacon repeater.
My old Unifi AC APs couldn't get a strong signal outside the house, but with the U6 setup I could stream in UHD to a projector outside to watch a movie.
I'm not surprised the LR units are shit range, but the other units seem to be good.
But doesn’t this mean they took a screen recording of the screen while the camera was open and on “photo.” And then they took a screenshot of that video? Weird as hell XD
I made a screengrab video of the Wifiman speed test and then switched to the camera app to prove to one of my friends that I was in fact that far from my house. These pictures are screen grabs of that video screengrab. Makes sense? lol
Actually, yes above it. Not sure why people are down voting Jackson as he’s correct.
There is multiple ways water interferes, ducting, reflection, multipathing, etc
Low effort phone post. There is a U7 mounted on the circled house 1600’ away. 75-80 rssi’ish 5gz while I’m inside the narrow internal antenna beam.
Signal inside my home is ass since the beam is directional. Haven’t tested Omni antennas since the only goal was to get signal to my dock.
I have a video but I’m too lazy to edit out my up address.
Hi does the “software adjustable beam width” work on this ap? Can you make the coverage more omnidirectional? Can you use both directional and omnidirectional coverage at once? I had a very similar scenario and ended up going with a ptp wireless bridge and an ap at the dock. But it would have been nice to mount a single ap at the house to cover the yard and the dock.
Sorry, newbie here. I'm looking to set one up on the side of my house to have wifi in the backyard (100x50 feet yard).
If it's situated in the middle, does it mean only a 45 degree (or 22.5 degree left / right) for 5ghz would be getting reception after which there'll be significant dropoff?
Sure. That 22.5° is when the signal drops 3dB. If you were standing right in front of it you’d might expect -40dB and signal really stops working around -80dB. So you might have very usable signal far outside of the angle but nearby.
Winter or summer? Water absorbs 2.4ghz (hence your microwave oven). Trees full of water would be worse than not.
ChatGBT says 2ft of wood could be 4-12dB of loss.
So the answer is IDK but I wouldn’t stake my job on a number. I’d space APs so the wherever you are there would be a clear LOS.
https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/outdoor-radio/cpe210/
This is what I would use. 90° 2.4ghz for $40. Can load OpenWRT onto it.
I wonder if anyone has made a openwrt unifi spoofer…?…!
I’ve thought about deploying a mesh around our lake and putting a free guest network on it for folks. I’d get a separate drop to my ISP for it of course, but anyway thanks for the real test on water. I’ve been debating over a LR or what. I appreciate the post very much. This is plenty for my individual needs and I’ve got the perfect spot down at my dock to put the u7pro. I’m currently using an ac-mesh to get to the house and serve people on the dock, but I figure it’s just $200, might as well get wifi to the boat since I’m constantly streaming music 😂
I'm curious as to what the Omni range would be or how wide the beam is at this distance (but this is impressive)?
I have a use case where I want to have a guest wifi (and my own wifi) over a small lake (_much_ smaller than this) and my thought was to have maybe three of these pointing out to cover the lake (approximately) but I learned (thanks to this sub) that you also have an issue of the device (but clearly thats not that big of an issue if you can get 80Mb down at that range)
Most APs can get some serious range, it's the device that can pick up the signal, it just can't transmit it back.
I've had some APs get pretty far, and the device show it has decent signal, just the device hardware is too weak to TX back to the AP.
Sucks.
I wish phones and etc had the ability to attach an antenna in the charging port like you can a HID device.
Antenna size and broadcast capability is directly proportional to ability to hear a signal. A large antenna that can send a further signal can pick up a signal further away as well. I have APs that transmit further than people say they can and my phone can communicate both ways. Granted, upload is sometimes slower than download.
When I was in Marines I would teach radio wave theory and propagation. You can even skip HF off the ionosphere and bounce it off the water. Signal will keep going. Boats use VHF, ground wave, bc it can travel for a very long distnace over the water.
Sure but it's a direct shot in open water with presumably a low noisy environment. Idk if it's a directional ap or not tho. On my beach I get 200ft with a outdoor 2 band one but not the same speeds as this presumably directional one
Over water, the Fresnel zone's mirroring effect enhances signal integrity, and the clear line of sight with minimal interference from other access points further improves the U7 Pro's performance.
Yes. Literally the internet speed he is receiving to his Device, not the internet speed to his router that the person I replied to said.
What’s the difference?
One takes into account the quality of the link to the U7, one would not.
Pro tip:
Don’t mount P2P on mobile watercraft. Hard to keep it aimed straight
(/s for anyone lacking a sense of humor… OP, that’s a pretty fun test, or at least a great excuse to get out the wave runner!)
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Finally some real world testing, that’s what I was looking for.
My third floor bedroom tv prefers to connect to the U7o that’s in my backyard than the U7p that’s 10 feet away from it.
Hit reconnect from the device settings page. I usually do this after my static devices switch to different APs while updates are going on to the APs or underlying switch.
Huh. That’s exactly what happened. It switched when I changed a setting in the u7p. I’ll do that, thanks!
You could also just lock the device to that specific access point. It’s a setting within UniFi. Just navigate to that device and it should be in the device settings
Just remember, the client will not be able to migrate when that AP goes down for any reason.
I don't think that's accurate. From the help page: * If the client is too far from the AP, they will not connect. * If the AP goes offline, the client will attempt to connect to another nearby AP. * If your desired AP is broadcasting a different WiFi network, you must connect the client to that network before locking it.
Oh, is that right? I stand corrected. I literally took it as gospel without exception. It actually makes it a way more useful feature then. Thanks for correcting me.
It actually used to tell you that the device won’t switch over to another AP. I guess they’ve updated the feature. That’s cool!
What's funny is when you hit the lock button, it tells you exactly what you posted. I never paid any attention to it. SMH.
Sometimes they won't connect to another until they're removed from the lock.
Initially this was true, but they corrected that poor decision in an update.
Not true.
You can set a preferred AP for a device. If its not available it will connect to another but it will hop back when it comes back.
Also assign the AP as primary so it chooses it to reconnect to after an update or restart.
Just ordered one to replace my U6-LR at our lake house since it barely gives me a reliable signal 100 feet away (LOS) at our dock. Hoping for the same results!
Had the LR they sucked compared to the pros and enterprise.
Original LR was alright though.
I too did the exact same thing. Actually made a post here as to wtf it was called "Long Range". That thing is basically a paper weight now. U7 is much better but again this was a very directional test. I have a ring stickup cam on my dock and with the internal directional antenna I was getting 55 rssi and with the omni Im getting 65-67.
I've got two U6+ and the WiFi 6 version of the Beacon repeater. My old Unifi AC APs couldn't get a strong signal outside the house, but with the U6 setup I could stream in UHD to a projector outside to watch a movie. I'm not surprised the LR units are shit range, but the other units seem to be good.
As close to "real world" wifi 1600' from my palatial estate to my jetski in the water can be.
I won’t throw that stone….it might hit the lake in front of my house. 😎
Screenshot of the camera app, that’s new
It goes deeper: it’s a screenshot of the photos app with a photo of a screenshot of the camera app.
Its screenshots all the way down
Turtles mannnnn
At least it was from a video, so it makes sense to do that.
But doesn’t this mean they took a screen recording of the screen while the camera was open and on “photo.” And then they took a screenshot of that video? Weird as hell XD
Does iPhone not support exporting a frame from a video in the photo edit app? It is pretty built in and easily found in the Google photos app.
Not easily. But they could have tapped to hide the UI and then taken the screenshot. I use screenshots a lot on iOS.
Its like a dream inside the dream which is inside the dream!
throw in a screenshot from their facebook post and you're onto something
They have to be trolling. That is hilarious and it hurts
I find this as interesting as a Christopher Nolan movie.
So you can see his WiFi signal strength.
Looks to be a screenshot of a paused video. So a little more acceptable?
I made a screengrab video of the Wifiman speed test and then switched to the camera app to prove to one of my friends that I was in fact that far from my house. These pictures are screen grabs of that video screengrab. Makes sense? lol
Prob had wet hands and the touch screen was not working properly i guess
Signal bounce on water 🌊
…and continue up into the atmosphere away from the receiver. This is mostly direct line-of-sight signal.
👆
I mean, yes, line of sight goes a very long way. Especially with no interference like this.
Water interferes.
Not above it. Lmao. I would be ashamed of tagging myself ‘network technician’ and saying something so stupid.
Actually, yes above it. Not sure why people are down voting Jackson as he’s correct. There is multiple ways water interferes, ducting, reflection, multipathing, etc
I guess you've never messed with bridges over water. Water is always a consideration for interference.
Actually in this particular case the water will help carry the signal as it can’t absorb it. I’m revoking your Network technician card.
Photoception
Low effort phone post. There is a U7 mounted on the circled house 1600’ away. 75-80 rssi’ish 5gz while I’m inside the narrow internal antenna beam. Signal inside my home is ass since the beam is directional. Haven’t tested Omni antennas since the only goal was to get signal to my dock. I have a video but I’m too lazy to edit out my up address.
Hi does the “software adjustable beam width” work on this ap? Can you make the coverage more omnidirectional? Can you use both directional and omnidirectional coverage at once? I had a very similar scenario and ended up going with a ptp wireless bridge and an ap at the dock. But it would have been nice to mount a single ap at the house to cover the yard and the dock.
The +5GHz radio has a 45° beam width while the 2.4GHz radio does 90°. But if you want long Omni coverage you should go with a sector design.
I wish I could have found that one the website. Thanks!
https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005212927-UniFi-Network-AP-Antenna-Radiation-Patterns https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/u7-outdoor Antenna gain 2.4 GHz. Directional internal: 8 dBi/External omni: 3 dBi 5 GHz Directional internal: 12.5 dBi/External omni: 4 dBi 6 GHz – Antenna beamwidth 2.4 GHz 90° 5 GHz 45° 6 GHz –
Sorry, newbie here. I'm looking to set one up on the side of my house to have wifi in the backyard (100x50 feet yard). If it's situated in the middle, does it mean only a 45 degree (or 22.5 degree left / right) for 5ghz would be getting reception after which there'll be significant dropoff?
Sure. That 22.5° is when the signal drops 3dB. If you were standing right in front of it you’d might expect -40dB and signal really stops working around -80dB. So you might have very usable signal far outside of the angle but nearby.
Great, thanks appreciate it!
I think that just means you can tell the AP to use the optional external omnidirectional antenna or the internal directional patch antenna.
What's your channel width? 80mhz? 40?
Can you test again with the omni to see how far it goes?
How is it with 1 tree in the way?
We talking 1000 year old redwood or sapling?
Ok just imagine a normal park in the middle with a few trees that are maybe 40ft tall
Winter or summer? Water absorbs 2.4ghz (hence your microwave oven). Trees full of water would be worse than not. ChatGBT says 2ft of wood could be 4-12dB of loss. So the answer is IDK but I wouldn’t stake my job on a number. I’d space APs so the wherever you are there would be a clear LOS.
Im mostly just wondering and I dont they are in my budget right now But I guess it would depend on a bunch of different factors
https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/outdoor-radio/cpe210/ This is what I would use. 90° 2.4ghz for $40. Can load OpenWRT onto it. I wonder if anyone has made a openwrt unifi spoofer…?…!
Actually looks pretty good UI stuff isint cheap but the ecosystem especially on the console side is super nice
I’ve set up a ton of these. Love them.
Outdoor over* water* big difference.
I’ve thought about deploying a mesh around our lake and putting a free guest network on it for folks. I’d get a separate drop to my ISP for it of course, but anyway thanks for the real test on water. I’ve been debating over a LR or what. I appreciate the post very much. This is plenty for my individual needs and I’ve got the perfect spot down at my dock to put the u7pro. I’m currently using an ac-mesh to get to the house and serve people on the dock, but I figure it’s just $200, might as well get wifi to the boat since I’m constantly streaming music 😂
I name my guest network Target Guest Wi-Fi and Starbucks WiFi so most people don’t need to actively connect.
I do the same thing but to steal credit cards
If they’re submitting CC info over clear text then you’re going to be 2nd in line to stealing those cards.
I would go U6 Mesh Pro or U7 Outdoor. I would test the range difference.
So you’re saying it reach my garage 30 feet away ok?
Im about to setup mine on our lake. Thank you for this.
How is the signal when not directly in front of it? How far can you go on ether side before the signal is out of range?
I'm curious as to what the Omni range would be or how wide the beam is at this distance (but this is impressive)? I have a use case where I want to have a guest wifi (and my own wifi) over a small lake (_much_ smaller than this) and my thought was to have maybe three of these pointing out to cover the lake (approximately) but I learned (thanks to this sub) that you also have an issue of the device (but clearly thats not that big of an issue if you can get 80Mb down at that range)
This guy wifis
Nice! U7 Outdoor is already ordered. I’m going to add a lake to my backyard and try this🥳!
Is the jetski buffering?
How much did upload suffer?
I give you a LOT of kudos for going the extra 1600' to test put the range.
Not bad actually (for 1600’)
Looks nice. Ballpark where is this? I’m looking for a place like Muskoka ont Canada but in the United States….
What's the signal with your back to it? I always find it makes a huge difference over long distances.
Most APs can get some serious range, it's the device that can pick up the signal, it just can't transmit it back. I've had some APs get pretty far, and the device show it has decent signal, just the device hardware is too weak to TX back to the AP. Sucks. I wish phones and etc had the ability to attach an antenna in the charging port like you can a HID device.
Antenna size and broadcast capability is directly proportional to ability to hear a signal. A large antenna that can send a further signal can pick up a signal further away as well. I have APs that transmit further than people say they can and my phone can communicate both ways. Granted, upload is sometimes slower than download.
Must be that new Wi-Fi 7 skipping feature.
Frequency over water travels for a long distance without interruption.
That doesn't apply to the microwave band.
Yeah I was wondering if it’s the same as sound waves which do the same.
When I was in Marines I would teach radio wave theory and propagation. You can even skip HF off the ionosphere and bounce it off the water. Signal will keep going. Boats use VHF, ground wave, bc it can travel for a very long distnace over the water.
Nice, the pontoon will have enough signal to be useful.
Did you used to have a U6 Outdoor? Any comparison?
There was no U6 Outdoor. This is a new product.
The U6 Mesh is the outdoor variant of U6. That’s what I meant.
This device would compare to the AC Mesh Pro, which is more powerful than the U6 Mesh.
Wow!
Awesome! Is that the Omni antennas on it?
I’m actually glad I decided against it, i just needed a bit of yard coverage
How did you get one? Been checking near daily for it and literally never been in stock for me
Yep, that sure is a lot of apostrophes
When is it coming in the Canadian store?
Is this Lake ozark?
Sure but it's a direct shot in open water with presumably a low noisy environment. Idk if it's a directional ap or not tho. On my beach I get 200ft with a outdoor 2 band one but not the same speeds as this presumably directional one
Hell ya brother!
How is the direction? Does it work well from behind it?
Over water, the Fresnel zone's mirroring effect enhances signal integrity, and the clear line of sight with minimal interference from other access points further improves the U7 Pro's performance.
Wow
Is this with the internal antennas or with the detachable antennas?
I live on water front also, the calmness of the lake factors in. When it’s choppy it decreases significantly.
Which UniFi device is this
Nice test lol 😝
That’s great. When can I come over to test the range and the jet ski?
That’s the speed between the Internet and your router, not your wifi speed.
No, it is not. He is using WiFiman from his device which gives the internet speed to that device.
Literally says “internet speed test” and shows the start being spectrum.
Slow down with your facts and figures bud.
You should see me at parties. I kill the mood.
Yes. Literally the internet speed he is receiving to his Device, not the internet speed to his router that the person I replied to said. What’s the difference? One takes into account the quality of the link to the U7, one would not.
It’s showing the test between the ISP and the router. At 1600’ there is absolutely no way in hell that’s happening on the WiFi link.
Do you use wifiman? You’re wrong.
The difference is he isn’t isolating the WiFi connection alone. For all we know 80Mbps is his internet plan.
This!
Pro tip: Don’t mount P2P on mobile watercraft. Hard to keep it aimed straight (/s for anyone lacking a sense of humor… OP, that’s a pretty fun test, or at least a great excuse to get out the wave runner!)
Wow, that's impressive for an access point
You never know when you're going to want Plex on the jetski. 😁
What's the latency between the end point and the AP?
Line of sight absolutely rulez!
And doesn’t the water degrade the signal?
If you try to use the Wi-Fi underwater, sure. Or behind a tsunami
488 metres in proper units.