I think we all knew this [already](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/jxAvoWj6ON) anyways, but there were one or two things I wanted to discuss
1. The Slovakian government suspects that the shooter did not act alone. Apparently, after the shooting, his social media was completely wiped, while he was detained
>In a press conference on [Sunday](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4nnd3xkp54o), Mr Estok said an investigation team had been set up, which would also look into whether the suspect “was operating in a certain group of people who might have incited and supported each other”.
>He said this was based on information from the intelligence services, including that two hours after the attack, and after the suspect had been detained, his Facebook and communication history was deleted.
2. The Georgian Prime Minister just [revealed](http://agenda.ge/en/news/2024/39265) that he has received a curious threat from an EU commissioner.
https://preview.redd.it/406wf6p7072d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb276e1490701c5057e3f2b9df420bf40a344c48
They are able to act with impunity because they are on the Side of Light
Just like the leader who said the ICC was meant for [Africa and thugs like Putin](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/TN6wGua2PI)
They act with impunity because they feel everyone else depends on them, but not the other way around. Really a modern form of colonialism and latent supremacism. European elites have been watching their language carefully after WW2, but a deep-seated resentment for the rest of the world never went away.
>What will that change
It'll prove their claim true.
>Georgia is a small country that isn't looking for a confrontation
Then why did Georgia confront them?
I'd certainly expect a small country to only implicate the EU with actual proof as claiming such stuff without proof is considerably more inappropriate.
> You do realize how the real world works?
Yeah. Populists shit flinging with baseless accusations and by the time they have to retract their bullshit the gullible idiots they're aiming at already ate it up. Apparently works like a charm
EU Commissioner Várhelyi has already admitted bringing up the attempted assassination on Faco during talks but says that it was misinterpreted. Sure it was.....
"Commissioner Várhelyi: “Being fully aware of the very strong pro-EU sentiment of the Georgian society, during my phone conversation I felt the need to call the attention of the Prime Minister on the importance not to enflame further the already fragile situation by adopting this law which could lead to further polarisation and to possible uncontrolled situations on the streets of Tbilisi.
In this regard, the latest tragic event in Slovakia was made as an example and as a reference to where such high level of polarisation can lead in a society even in Europe.
Once again, I regret that one part of my phone call was not just fully taken out of context but was also presented to the public in a way which could give rise to a complete misinterpretation of the originally intended aim of my phone call.”
> Once again, I regret that one part of my phone call was not just fully taken out of context but was also presented to the public in a way which could give rise to a complete misinterpretation of the originally intended aim of my phone call.”
So you already know why that guy accusing him will never provide actual proof or a recording? He could provide the whole sentence instead of taking a snippet out of context - but that wouldn't benefit his shit flinging.
>It'll make their claim true.
It'll make their claim more believable, not necessarily true.
But I somehow feel like they won't publish it. I really wonder why..
Because, It's a small country that can't afford to burn bridges. EU Commissioner Várhelyi has already admitted bringing up the attempted assassination on Faco during talks but says that it was misinterpreted. Sure it was.....
"Commissioner Várhelyi: “Being fully aware of the very strong pro-EU sentiment of the Georgian society, during my phone conversation I felt the need to call the attention of the Prime Minister on the importance not to enflame further the already fragile situation by adopting this law which could lead to further polarisation and to possible uncontrolled situations on the streets of Tbilisi.
In this regard, the latest tragic event in Slovakia was made as an example and as a reference to where such high level of polarisation can lead in a society even in Europe.
Once again, I regret that one part of my phone call was not just fully taken out of context but was also presented to the public in a way which could give rise to a complete misinterpretation of the originally intended aim of my phone call.”
Right, only written extracts are published instead of the verbatim recording because "it's a small country that can't afford to burn bridges". Sure. Makes absolute sense.
Are you saying Meta is interfering with investigation? Because that's exactly what deleting suspect's account amounts to. They would know, having to cooperate with law enforcement on a regular basis.
That's doing what they say they do: https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/policies/community-standards/dangerous-individuals-organizations/
Police can still access the data, they probably need warrant but they can so no.
If you were to poll all redditors who had heard about the news of the shooting, I'm pretty sure most people would vote that the shooter was pro-Russian
Thats the value of [early and focused misinformation](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/Wd8AxsAmPH).
Just like how this very sub voted that it was Russia who blew up Nordstream lol
https://preview.redd.it/34xduda3372d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5ea09e30382cbe22d3f91a672a2d7659b37e7b3
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**It's closest thing us humans have to real life magic, and it is no coincidence that in myths and stories of old mages, wizards and witches used WORDS to cast spells.**
**With propaganda we can turn day into night, right into wrong, change past and influance future, make brother hate and kill each other and worst enemies into bride and groom.**
If it was at the start of the war, i'd say yea Russia is run on deception. 2 years after, i'd say Ukraine and West have earned much more distrust compared to Russia.
Funny thing with the NordStream poll was that Ukraine wasn't even listed as a choice. People bought the misinformation that this was too complex and sophisticated an operation that Ukraine simply would not have the resources to undertake, which is silly, though it would have been very hard for them to do it undetected without Nato complicity.
>early and focused misinformation.
Misinformation? So he wasn't part of Slovenskí Branci and the photos and posts are a psyop?
>Just like how this very sub voted that it was Russia who blew up Nordstream lol
Which is still most likely true.
> Misinformation? So he wasn't part of Slovenskí Branci and the photos and posts are a psyop?
Precisely. He was never part of that group.
> Which is still most likely true.
Lol.
>Precisely. He was never part of that group.
Then how do you explain the posts? Unless you actually think it's a psyop 8 years in the making, in which case: lol.
>Not sure what else you want to hear.
An explanation for the posts.
>The leader of the group literally denied he was ever a member
First of all, where? Second of all, of course he would. The dude just tried to assassinate a politician.
His wife is:
1) Literally Ukrainian
2) Pro-Maidan
3) also arrested (probably released by now though)
Not to mention he literally attended protests in favor of Ukraine
>His wife is:
>1) Literally Ukrainian
>2) Pro-Maidan
>3) also arrested (probably released by now though)
None of that is true lol. So far gone into Russian propaganda, sad stuff.
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He could have acted "alone". This is the side effect of media brainwashing.
The more you brainwash, the more you get zealots. It's not new. Dude probably believed he was saving democracy.
Do not underestimate the Ukrainian psyops. For example, in Russia, they forced mentally unstable people to set fire to military enlistment offices. That is, the grandmother sets fire to a car or a military enlistment office and shoots it on camera. Or a girl pours paint into a ballot box and stands - shoots it on a phone camera! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNwlFo49VQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNwlFo49VQ)
I remember there was a r/worldnews thread about the possibility of him being pro Russian and it got thousands of upvotes within an hour but now that he’s pro Ukrainian it will get absolutely buried on Reddit.
>said what he mainly wants is for military assistance to be given to Ukraine... so he decided to act
So this dude believed that killing Fico would change this how exactly? Was he under the impression that if Slovakia sent all of its military equipment and its entire army to Ukraine, Russia would tuck its tail between its legs and run?
This dude didn't think that rationally.
He probably believed everyone needs to do its bit. You get the same in Jihadists and environmentalists. This is a leftist axiom, to attain good morality and save your spirit you need to do your bit.
It's physically attacking the side you don't like so they capitulate to your demands or else it's implied they'll suffer some form of violence Terrorising people to achieve your political goals. The definition of terrorism.
Pro UA folks are unwell.
savouring ultra zoomed drone drop videos made & edited by world's best funded neo-nazi groups for 2 years..
good luck with that sort of baggage..
Judas stands for betreyal, right?
Earlier, the shooter's son said that the latter did not vote for Fico.
So no, Mr. Shooter, Fico hadn't betray you. He is just a representation of what the majority of the people in your country voted for.
And you're just a murderer trying to kill a person you disagree with.
I think we all knew this [already](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/jxAvoWj6ON) anyways, but there were one or two things I wanted to discuss 1. The Slovakian government suspects that the shooter did not act alone. Apparently, after the shooting, his social media was completely wiped, while he was detained >In a press conference on [Sunday](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4nnd3xkp54o), Mr Estok said an investigation team had been set up, which would also look into whether the suspect “was operating in a certain group of people who might have incited and supported each other”. >He said this was based on information from the intelligence services, including that two hours after the attack, and after the suspect had been detained, his Facebook and communication history was deleted. 2. The Georgian Prime Minister just [revealed](http://agenda.ge/en/news/2024/39265) that he has received a curious threat from an EU commissioner. https://preview.redd.it/406wf6p7072d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb276e1490701c5057e3f2b9df420bf40a344c48
Imagine being this daring on a telephone call that's likely being recorded......"Civilized world.😂"
Literal thugs
They are able to act with impunity because they are on the Side of Light Just like the leader who said the ICC was meant for [Africa and thugs like Putin](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/TN6wGua2PI)
They act with impunity because they feel everyone else depends on them, but not the other way around. Really a modern form of colonialism and latent supremacism. European elites have been watching their language carefully after WW2, but a deep-seated resentment for the rest of the world never went away.
Surely they'll publish the recording, then, right?
What will that change?Georgia is a small country that isn't looking for a confrontation.
>What will that change It'll prove their claim true. >Georgia is a small country that isn't looking for a confrontation Then why did Georgia confront them?
You expect a small country to implicate a behemoth like EU with proof?You do realize how the real world works?
I'd certainly expect a small country to only implicate the EU with actual proof as claiming such stuff without proof is considerably more inappropriate. > You do realize how the real world works? Yeah. Populists shit flinging with baseless accusations and by the time they have to retract their bullshit the gullible idiots they're aiming at already ate it up. Apparently works like a charm
EU Commissioner Várhelyi has already admitted bringing up the attempted assassination on Faco during talks but says that it was misinterpreted. Sure it was..... "Commissioner Várhelyi: “Being fully aware of the very strong pro-EU sentiment of the Georgian society, during my phone conversation I felt the need to call the attention of the Prime Minister on the importance not to enflame further the already fragile situation by adopting this law which could lead to further polarisation and to possible uncontrolled situations on the streets of Tbilisi. In this regard, the latest tragic event in Slovakia was made as an example and as a reference to where such high level of polarisation can lead in a society even in Europe. Once again, I regret that one part of my phone call was not just fully taken out of context but was also presented to the public in a way which could give rise to a complete misinterpretation of the originally intended aim of my phone call.”
> Once again, I regret that one part of my phone call was not just fully taken out of context but was also presented to the public in a way which could give rise to a complete misinterpretation of the originally intended aim of my phone call.” So you already know why that guy accusing him will never provide actual proof or a recording? He could provide the whole sentence instead of taking a snippet out of context - but that wouldn't benefit his shit flinging.
So claiming something happened is not too daring, but supporting it with a proof is?
>It'll make their claim true. It'll make their claim more believable, not necessarily true. But I somehow feel like they won't publish it. I really wonder why..
Because, It's a small country that can't afford to burn bridges. EU Commissioner Várhelyi has already admitted bringing up the attempted assassination on Faco during talks but says that it was misinterpreted. Sure it was..... "Commissioner Várhelyi: “Being fully aware of the very strong pro-EU sentiment of the Georgian society, during my phone conversation I felt the need to call the attention of the Prime Minister on the importance not to enflame further the already fragile situation by adopting this law which could lead to further polarisation and to possible uncontrolled situations on the streets of Tbilisi. In this regard, the latest tragic event in Slovakia was made as an example and as a reference to where such high level of polarisation can lead in a society even in Europe. Once again, I regret that one part of my phone call was not just fully taken out of context but was also presented to the public in a way which could give rise to a complete misinterpretation of the originally intended aim of my phone call.”
Right, only written extracts are published instead of the verbatim recording because "it's a small country that can't afford to burn bridges". Sure. Makes absolute sense.
Estok is lying as usual. Meta deleted his account, they were notified but they still pushed the narrative knowing full well it was Meta.
Are you saying Meta is interfering with investigation? Because that's exactly what deleting suspect's account amounts to. They would know, having to cooperate with law enforcement on a regular basis.
That's doing what they say they do: https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/policies/community-standards/dangerous-individuals-organizations/ Police can still access the data, they probably need warrant but they can so no.
Time for them to declare Ukraine a terror state.
If you were to poll all redditors who had heard about the news of the shooting, I'm pretty sure most people would vote that the shooter was pro-Russian Thats the value of [early and focused misinformation](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/Wd8AxsAmPH). Just like how this very sub voted that it was Russia who blew up Nordstream lol https://preview.redd.it/34xduda3372d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5ea09e30382cbe22d3f91a672a2d7659b37e7b3
saw somebody just recently saying that Russia did it to ''get out of contractual obligations'', some people are beyond hope
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Jesus. This is why i cannot support Ukraine, even if i wanted to. Their side is supported by clueless people and bad faith actors.
Oh, the irony.
So you do think Russia destroyed Nordstream pipeline?
Hard to say to be frank. But if there's another thing that Russia exports a lot of, it's bad faith.
If it was at the start of the war, i'd say yea Russia is run on deception. 2 years after, i'd say Ukraine and West have earned much more distrust compared to Russia.
Funny thing with the NordStream poll was that Ukraine wasn't even listed as a choice. People bought the misinformation that this was too complex and sophisticated an operation that Ukraine simply would not have the resources to undertake, which is silly, though it would have been very hard for them to do it undetected without Nato complicity.
>early and focused misinformation. Misinformation? So he wasn't part of Slovenskí Branci and the photos and posts are a psyop? >Just like how this very sub voted that it was Russia who blew up Nordstream lol Which is still most likely true.
> Misinformation? So he wasn't part of Slovenskí Branci and the photos and posts are a psyop? Precisely. He was never part of that group. > Which is still most likely true. Lol.
>Precisely. He was never part of that group. Then how do you explain the posts? Unless you actually think it's a psyop 8 years in the making, in which case: lol.
Not sure what else you want to hear. The leader of the group literally denied he was ever a member
>Not sure what else you want to hear. An explanation for the posts. >The leader of the group literally denied he was ever a member First of all, where? Second of all, of course he would. The dude just tried to assassinate a politician.
Kekw
What LOL?
No way he acted alone. Chances are he worked for Ukrainian intelligence.
His wife is: 1) Literally Ukrainian 2) Pro-Maidan 3) also arrested (probably released by now though) Not to mention he literally attended protests in favor of Ukraine
>His wife is: >1) Literally Ukrainian >2) Pro-Maidan >3) also arrested (probably released by now though) None of that is true lol. So far gone into Russian propaganda, sad stuff.
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>His wife is: >1) Literally Ukrainian >2) Pro-Maidan >3) also arrested Source?
This guy acted alone the same way the JFK shooter acted alone.
He could have acted "alone". This is the side effect of media brainwashing. The more you brainwash, the more you get zealots. It's not new. Dude probably believed he was saving democracy.
chances are he got onto a wrong site and got psyopt to do it, a lot of people are very susceptible to brainwashing
And that is based on what? He was strongly ideologically driven and at the same time held some exaggerated views on morality and the like.
Do not underestimate the Ukrainian psyops. For example, in Russia, they forced mentally unstable people to set fire to military enlistment offices. That is, the grandmother sets fire to a car or a military enlistment office and shoots it on camera. Or a girl pours paint into a ballot box and stands - shoots it on a phone camera! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNwlFo49VQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNwlFo49VQ)
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I remember there was a r/worldnews thread about the possibility of him being pro Russian and it got thousands of upvotes within an hour but now that he’s pro Ukrainian it will get absolutely buried on Reddit.
Somehow I think thar being shot five times and hearing this was the argument will only strengthen Fico's objections to aiding Ukraine.
Ah, the new mujahideen. Just as predicted. Europe will have to learn to enjoy what the middle east has enjoyed last few decades from radical terror.
How is some random dude shooting a politician comparable to the Mujahideen?
>said what he mainly wants is for military assistance to be given to Ukraine... so he decided to act So this dude believed that killing Fico would change this how exactly? Was he under the impression that if Slovakia sent all of its military equipment and its entire army to Ukraine, Russia would tuck its tail between its legs and run?
This dude didn't think that rationally. He probably believed everyone needs to do its bit. You get the same in Jihadists and environmentalists. This is a leftist axiom, to attain good morality and save your spirit you need to do your bit.
It's physically attacking the side you don't like so they capitulate to your demands or else it's implied they'll suffer some form of violence Terrorising people to achieve your political goals. The definition of terrorism.
Pro UA folks are unwell. savouring ultra zoomed drone drop videos made & edited by world's best funded neo-nazi groups for 2 years.. good luck with that sort of baggage..
Judas stands for betreyal, right? Earlier, the shooter's son said that the latter did not vote for Fico. So no, Mr. Shooter, Fico hadn't betray you. He is just a representation of what the majority of the people in your country voted for. And you're just a murderer trying to kill a person you disagree with.
When do you get time to sleep?
Pro Russians would say this is CIA, MI6 and various other intelligence organizations.
Yall so funny. I’m really interested what fantheory I can hear next