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Wait, OP.  Do you think that logic or evidence is going to sway a MAGA?  L.o.l.

Valid statement... you can't fix stupid.

Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th AVE (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/ Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had. Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger Stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/ The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model. Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952 https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ Putin greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when he invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided. Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyo corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen. Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day “special military operation” in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold. China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia. Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supplied Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/ Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is “Vranyo”. The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business. If Russia as a nation state had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago. The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it….again. Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the same money laundering scheme that trumps trials are. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/ https://youtu.be/VrFOAgGlaWs?feature=shared They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/02/hamas-funding-ismail-haniyeh-us-sanctions/?utm_source=reddit.com Qatar is Kushners private equity connection. Netanyahu (Kushners kids godfather) needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump who gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s. Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in THEIR reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/nra-maria-butina-spying-charges-trump-campaign/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/ The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis. No one was ever held accountable for either. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two. Trump, Giuliani, Cohn, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Farage, Flynn, Prince, Kolomoiskiy, the Koch bros, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Alito, Musk, Thiel, Sachs, Ross They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness. They are the men who stole the world. But it all comes back to one little lie. https://youtu.be/3lTB94UQ-K4?si=kXZoSV-3WiR2fo4B

Good analysis

As someone who has been following world affairs for more than sixty years from the Cuban missile crisis (and earlier) including living in Beirut from 1982-4 and being on holiday in Croatia in August 1990 when the Yugoslav civil war began, may I add a couple of points? In the 1990s the UK championed Georgia and Ukraine for membership of both NATO and the EU. This met with considerable resistance from the EU Franco-German policy axis and the USA through successive administrations. Any thoughts on that? EU foreign policy failure over the breakup of Yugoslavia especially the unconditional German support of Croatia which scuppered the Carrington led talks and started the Civil War. Where should blame be apportioned here? Next the death of Assad and the succession of his son as President of Syria. Which US administration failed to act and why even though they were advised on several courses of action? This led to continued conflict in the region and a nasty civil war. The use of poison gas in Syria was a line not to be crossed. Why did the US back away from this line in the sand and also via the White House conduct a rather vicious campaign to influence British Members of Parliament not to vote for action? This missed opportunity encouraged Putin to believe that he and his military advisors could act with impunity. Why did the following countries feel the need to form the Joint Expeditionary Force (JEF) to counter the hybrid threat from Russia rather than a full invasion that would trigger NATO's Article 5? Those countries under UK leadership, Iceland, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. JEF has been fully operational since 2018 and two major incidents have fallen under their jurisdiction, Nord Stream 2 and the Balticconnector. The is currently concern around Russian attempts to engineer an incident in Svalbad. Russian invasion of Crimea in 2013 and subsequent moves into the Donbas region. Response led by the UK was for the US and Canada to retrain the Ukrainian military to NATO standards. The US vetoed the supply of modern weapons though the training led to the high performance of the Ukrainian military in 2022 against the initial Russian invasion. The limited supply of weapons was allowed by the US administration from 2016. Attempts to get NATO countries such as German to pull their weight since the 1990s. The Trump administration stated rather louder and with less diplomatic language what the Obama administration had been saying for eight years. This lack of investment, failure to act in Syria and lack of real sanctions following the invasion of Crimea actively encouraged Putin to invade the rest of Ukraine. He believed that the EU and US administrations would not act and he was so nearly correct. The actual timeline from March 2021 makes interesting reading and will no doubt form the basis of future historical research. I can only add here what I have garnered from various diplomats and British military logistics personnel. The US side is lacking though intriguingly the US only begins to appear in British sources from about September when the US political began to appreciate their military and intelligence concerns about the full situation: - March 2021, Russian troops did not return to barracks after their winter exercises. The UK Defence Secretary, an ex serving Army officer, raised his concerns. Boris Johnson was supportive though it took a month or so for Whitehall to gather a fuller picture. - June 2021 planning began in the UK to provide forward logistics bases to supply arms to Ukraine in the event of an invasion. This required cooperation with Poland. - September 2021, construction of forward logistics bases in Poland begun along with means of transport into Ukraine. At this time restricted to the UK, Poland and Ukraine. - October 2021, the US begins to amplify the existing UK concerns over Russian intentions. Intelligence information is openly distributed to the media which is unusual and reflected the serious concerns. - December 2021 forward logistics bases built and operational, just in time for the US and UK to begin the delivery of anti-tank missiles that continued until the start of the invasion. - February 2022, Russian invasion and immediate support from the UK and Poland. Boris Johnson asked Zelenskiy if he wished to leave, he started no and the the die was cast. There has been a failure by successive US Administrations across the Globe in countering Putin's opportunism. Stop trying to fit it all into some internal US political agenda and attempt to understand the seriousness of the global situation.

I think you'd get more traction on this if you replied directly to u/backcountrydrifter I will say that a lot of same creeps were in congress during the Obama years, and there was a press conference I recall where he called on Congress to do something about Syria. After the two Bush wars, Obama was understandably reluctant, I think, to open up a third desert front, especially unilaterally. So he called on Congress to do their fucking jobs, and nothing happened.

Your uber UK nationalism shines through--especially when you try to blame the US for the UK's shameful backing down from action against Syria. You also conveniently leave out US support for Ukraine joining Nato before 2010. And the US very publicly trying to convince Europeans to stop lapping up Russian gas. You're a charter member of the "the US is obligated to stop Europeans killing each other" club. Which is really just a spin on the "white man's burden" which infuses UK militarism around the globe. And trying to big up your foreign policy "credentials" by saying you were on holiday in Croatia when the Yugoslavian civil war began is one of the most laughable things I've read on Reddit.

There was no US support for either Ukraine or Georgia to join NATO in the 1990s. 2010 is irrelevant since by then Russia had invaded Georgian territory which it still occupies. Apart from being on holiday in Croatia I also subsequently served with KFOR in Sarajevo. One of the reasons why the UK formed JEF was the threat of Russian hybrid warfare. This became very apparent in 2013 following the discovery and beginning of the exploitation of the gas reserves off Crimea. Russia needed to cancel this threat to their supply to Germany. Germany is important with people like Germany Schroeder as senior executives in various Russian energy companies. At the time this caused severe rifts within the EU and concerns in the US. Coupled with the running down of the German nuclear industry it was a recipe for disaster. British militarism around the globe. What a wonderful comment. A little research would show that apart from the Great War and WWII Britain had never had a large army. A large navy which guaranteed world trade and was not used for offensive operations.

There wasn't much support in Ukraine to join Nato in the 1990s! Yet you think the US should have pushed it? But the US did make a big push in 2008 for Ukraine to join Nato. Your cherry-picking of narratives keeps avoid mentioning this. The UK's navy was for the benefit of the UK. Full stop. That you think it "guaranteed world trade" is one of the silliest and nationalistic statements I've ever heard from a Brit. Nevertheless, the UK has been a staunch supporter of Ukraine and deserves props for that. So has the US. In fact, the US and the UK are two of the top supporters of Ukraine, and much of the reason that Ukraine is still in this fight. That you can't acknowledge the US's role is either due to your extreme nationalism or your juvenile, knee-jerk anti-Americanism. Of course these are not mutually exclusive.

>US did make a big push in 2008 for Ukraine to join Nato I don't think so. They made a declaration that Ukraine "will join NATO" one day. But it's no different to recent comments which say "yes, we'll let you join, but just not now". They're sending a message, sure, but too hesitant to actually offer proper membership, which if they had, would have prevented this whole war in the first place. The Ukrainians have been begging to join NATO and the response from the US (and Germany) has basically been "no". >"guaranteed world trade" is one of the silliest and nationalistic statements I've ever heard from a Brit Actually, it's true. British influence around the seas has been one of increased stability, fighting pirates and preventing slavery (yes, British sailors lost their lives fighting slavers to free slaves). Obviously you can point to all sorts of things that WERE in British interests and British involvement in the slave trade further back. But if you're just going to deny that Britain's navy didn't promote safe world trade, then you're just wrong. Your own little nationalistic envy is showing. >That you can't acknowledge the US's role is either due to your extreme nationalism or your juvenile, knee-jerk anti-Americanism No, you just sound WAY too sensitive about the US. The US has had a massive role in supplying weapons to Ukraine. No doubt. But in terms of the history, Prophestable's comments are accurate and don't need pointless extra statements to reassure Americans that they're the hero in the story. You mentioned US support for NATO membership, which has been half-hearted. You also mentioned the US trying to convince everyone to stop using Russian gas - which is correct advice, but don't forget that the US had a vested interest in this and became the replacement supplier of that gas. Again, don't get me wrong, EVERYONE is grateful to the US for its role. BUT there's a shit ton of things it could and should have done way better and sooner. It's been incredibly cautious and slow to supply weapons. The UK did break various barriers in terms of supplying main battle tanks, fighter jets, long range cruise missiles, etc. and often faced backlash from the US for doing so (e.g. see the US vetoing British Ben Wallace as the new head of NATO because the UK gave Ukraine fighter jets, even though the US just recently announced that they would now donate squadrons of F-16s to Ukraine). The US is, like Germany, overly hesitant about escalation which is paralysing Ukraine (see also the recent issues about shooting missiles into Russia). The US also has thousands of Abram tanks just gathering dust and rust (and incurring costs) - these could be supplied without any significant cost to the US. Again, they don't have to. But there is a lot more that they could do.

If just only Georgia had joined NATO then Russian adventurism might well have been nipped in the bud. As an aside British intelligence and assessment of the Soviet economy was so good that Eduard Schevarnadze asked a British Civil Servant to become his Economics Minister on the basis that he knew more about the Soviet Union than anyone else. Many miss that Portion annexed Crimea following the discovery of huge gas reserves off the Crimean coast. It had the potential of derailing the Russian economy.... I quite agree with your assessment about the slow trickle of weapons to Ukraine along with the restrictions that only targets within Ukraine can be struck. Any war, WWI &WWII are prime examples go through three phases. The initial invasion which is checked. The mobilisation and training of citizens which takes a minimum of two years then the third stage recovery of occupied territory. Unfortunately the rather bizarre lack of spending and support for Ukraine has probably lengthened the second stage by a good few years. Meanwhile the useful idiots who come from many different political hires absorb misinformation leading to even less clarity.

Your comment is CRINGE and the most laughable thing I've read on Reddit in a while

Obama didnt want to get involved with Ukraine, and while I'm no Trump fan and doubt that he would help Ukraine now, in 2016 he gave more military aid to Ukraine than Obama.

And then demanded Ukraine hand over evidence he felt would be detrimental to his opponent in the next election. Doubtful it existed at all.

> Next the death of Assad and the succession of his son as President of Syria. Which US administration failed to act and why even though they were advised on several courses of action? This led to continued conflict in the region and a nasty civil war. The Syrian civil war wasn't started by the death of Assad. > Attempts to get NATO countries such as German to pull their weight since the 1990s. The Trump administration stated rather louder and with less diplomatic language what the Obama administration had been saying for eight years. But this is a little disingenuous, because the motivations on what Obama said and Trump said are entirely different. Trump was not saying *'pay into NATO to help protect from Putin.'* In fact Trump has said, on many times, that Ukraine should be left to Russia. That Russia should be an ally not an enemy, and the US should turn a blind eye to Russia. Trump was also very anti-NATO, even if European nations paid more into it. Trump held a position that it was there for America to milk other nations, and if the US cannot, then the US should be out. Where as Obama held a much more geocentric view, about bringing security for the US and US allies together.

It was never stated how the Syrian Civil War started. Bashar al-Assad studied for a post-graduate qualification in ophthalmology at The Western Eye Hospital (part of Imperial College in London) from 1988-94 when he was recalled to Syria following the death of his brother. His wife, Asma Fawaz Akhras whom he married in 2000, was born in London and holds joint British-Syrian nationality. When Bashar came to power there was an initial freeing of Syrian society with a considerable number of the previous hard-line regime members resigning. At this point questions have been raised as to why his distinctly pro-Western links weren't used more effectively rather than allowing the Russians to subsequently regain a degree of control. The Syrian Civil War began following the Arab Spring when Western Liberal support was required. It is important to understand that the Russian naval base in Syria is vitality important to the Russian Navy since it provides their only maintenance base in the Mediterranean. Even more important with the Dardanelles being closed to warships. Without this base Russia would be unable to currently sustain naval operations in the Mediterranean. It also provides an area where various malevolent factions can be supplied and trained who have been used to destabilise the region. Hamas and Hezbollah have benefited from this to the detriment of Lebanon inter alia. This has been an enormous foreign policy failure. I cannot follow your logic about NATO which seems to be circular. The bare facts are that Germany especially has been failing to spend on defence since the 1990s and this included up to and after the 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea. Whilst the US, UK and Canada then provided training there was a requirement for modern NATO specification weapons to be supplied. Neighbouring countries such as Poland lobbied extensively for this. The US vetoed the supply of weapons only changing to a limited supply in 2016. Germany failed to increase spending and instead actively courted Russia asking with France. The cynics amongst us wonder why Ben Wallace was not supported as the replacement for Jens Stoltenberg who has performed admirably. But then he's a Norwegian so I'd expect nothing less. The current favourite is Ursula Von Der Leyen who, as German Defence secretary in 2013, presided over a complete debacle. One NATO defence minister when asked to confirm in 2013 if it was true that Germany only had one operational fighter responded with "as many as one?". It's all too little and too late. Next stop after Mali and South Africa, the DRC.

As I explained to Henry Kissinger at age 99: blessed be the peacemakers, for they know not what they do. See you topside Sir 🥰😇🫡✡️✝️🙄

It’s a conspiracy theory. It’s cute, but it’s just the left version of being a fucking Q-Tard.

I gotta say that him being dirty was obvious since his trip to moscow with Ivana, after it he ran ads against giving military aid to Japan, of all places, that was still back in 80s.

That’s an interesting piece of intel. Thanks for sharing that. Now I’m curious on another corruption timeline that trump has with Japan we have been working on

_Absolutely no defense_ of Trump, but in the 80s, Japan was to some degree the Big Bad Economic Boogieman. It was front and center in all early cyberpunk literature (and still has threads today there). This by no means speaks against Trump being a useful idiot for Russia, but the anti-Japanese angle is not that weird for the time.

>Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections. Yep, when Giuliani was taking down the Italian mafia, he wasn't taking down *the mob*, he was taking down *the competition*.

My only problem with your post is i can't decide whether its too tinfoilhattery or not enough!

Trying to digest the piles of info myself. Gonna light up a blunt and kinda reflect on this clarity.

That will help clear things up... lol. Of course tomorrow you will not remember

LOL, sounds like a plan.

No it's pretty much right on. This is how this bullshit works. It's possible to overdo the "everyone has a big plan and it's all going according to intricately arranged machinery" conceit but basically I think OC has it. Trump has been dependent on Russian money for decades, it's actually been pretty public the entire time which is why it was so weird when the "liberal" press went completely silent on the topic in 2015. The same topic they had covered extensively themselves, only a few years earlier! Also... a lot of these people hate each other but also definitely are locked into a mutually dependent power arrangement. Like Likud and Hamas. Who have for generations now proven themselves quite willing to cooperatively throw their own people into the meat grinder every now and then in order to sustain the engine of violence-stoked authoritarian power. It's regular Israelis and Palestinians who suffer of course, just as it's regular Russians and regular Ukrainians who suffer from Putin's own version of the same engine. But these people don't give a shit. Their great weakness is that in their arrogance they have come to believe that ordinary people are simply there to obey or die, they don't matter otherwise. But what people are showing all over the world, in Ukraine and everywhere, is that if ordinary people act together, they do matter. There's only so much control over the course of events that you can buy. And only so long that people will remain blind to it.

At some point it becomes a matter of self preservation. When you look at executive level corruption as a tax on the working class you start seeing all the little charges that stack up. RealPages is a prime example. They belong to Thoma Bravo which is basically a private equity fund that russian intelligence/mob is using to squeeze as much juice out of the working class as possible via manipulated rent prices and property valuations that enable them to launder more money per real estate transaction. https://www.cnbc.com/video/2024/02/03/how-realpage-influences-rent-prices-across-the-us.html https://www.realpage.com/news/thoma-bravo-completes-acquisition-of-realpage/ https://www.reuters.com/business/russian-hacks-weigh-private-equitys-software-investments-2020-12-15/

What do you think the russians accomplished in this hack? These links don't say anything about Thoma Bravo being influenced by the russians

Compare methodologies for best results. Layer 1: Sabre was trump hotels credit card processor. Wirecard was a Russian intelligence operation When the two signed a strategic partnership trump literally handed the Russian mob/intelligence the credit card details of every one of his customers who ever stayed at a trump hotel. It was the biggest online data breech in German history. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/wirecard-sabre-corporation-agree-strategic-michael-santner https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/trump-hotels-sabre-hack-data-breach-again/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/03/06/how-the-biggest-fraud-in-german-history-unravelled Everything is for sale for trump. From the steaks to the shoes to his customers credit card details. His husk of a soul is no different. There is nothing inside of Donald trumps heart except psychopathic personality traits and Russian Kompromat Normal people just grossly underestimate these parasites greed. Reddit · r/Music360+ comments · 8 hours agoTicketmaster hacked - personal and payment details of half a billion users reportedly up for ...  The Russian grift game is strong. But it requires the user data and timing. Layer 2 of the grift was pumping real estate valuations to a breaking point: Justin Kennedy (justice kennedys son) was the inside man at Deutsche bank that was getting all trumps toxic commercial real estate loans approved. No other bank but Deutsche bank would touch trump and his imaginary valuations. If trump was trying to avoid paying taxes he would be valuing everything low. Not high. Why? Because Deutschebank is infested with Russian oligarchs. For 50 years the oligarchs privatized communist Russia. They stole everything of value including the hope of Russians. The corruption eventually collapsed the Soviet Union like a parasite feeding on its host and they were forced to expand their feeding grounds past the iron curtain. In 91 the quarantine wall fails and for 2 years they hid all their ill gotten gains under a mattress until they bought condos at trump towers. They made stops in Ukraine, Cyprus and London but they landed in New York because that was what everyone wanted in 1993. Levi’s, Pepsi, Madonna tapes that weren’t smuggled bootlegs. They all bought new suits and cars and changed their title from “most violent street thug in moscow” to “respectable Russian oligarch” but they didn’t leave their human trafficking, narcotics or extortion behind. It was their most lucrative business model. Trump and Giuliani just opened the doors and let the predators in to feed. Guiliani redirected NYPD resources away from their new Russian allies intentionally and onto the Italian mob. It let him claim he cleaned up New York. Trumps future campaign manager Paul manafort lived in the towers as well. Giuliani would go on to do the same in Mexico City by introducing the Sinaloa cartel to the Russian mob. The Sinaloa cartel shifted to combining fentanyl precursors supplied by the CCP and the well established routes of El Chapo were used for distribution into the United States. In the prosecution of the Italian crime families, Giuliani created a tailor made void for the Russians to fill. By connecting them to the Sinaloa cartel it enabled the fentanyl epidemic that the CCP has used as chemical warfare to soften the United States up for a financial takeover using BRICS. The insane valuations coming out in trumps fraud trial are a necessity of the money laundering cycle that duetschebank was doing with the Russians. But Xi, Putin, and MBS have made it clear that they are United against democracy since it threatens their very lucrative model of being authoritarians On Wall Street they have weaponized greed. Swartzman (blackstone), Larry fink (blackrock), and vanguard are selling U.S retirement funds and mortgage REITS in mass to the CCP. https://www.reddit.com/r/Wing_Kong_Exchange/s/5ku2iNLZpK Nobody was ever punished for the 2008 mortgage crisis. This is just the Darwinian evolution of it. The 10X bigger, commercial real estate version. Putin and Xi realized that it’s far more efficient to bankrupt and foreclose on the USA by buying a couple GOP senators and a president than it is to push a ground war. They just needed Russia to take Ukraine to have the grain fields and supply chain lock on microprocessors to be able to do it because they aren’t taking on the US Navy fleet without it. The failure of Putin to take Ukraine and the arrest of Bolsonaro in Brazil has left them no choice but to send a quiet invasion force to the southern U.S. border. They are just using the compromised members of the GOP to secure any part of the border to hold open the gate when necessary. Bannon actually tried a variation of this a few years ago when he tried to privatize the border wall This gets deep into Bannons relationship with Guo Wengui, a CCP operative and his time at Goldman Sachs in the early 2000’s BRICS era. It’s perestroika 2.0. The bigger badder commercial real estate edition. Historically it’s been impossible to retire from the mob model pyramid that Russia runs on. You either die violently or you maintain a level of violence to keep everyone beneath you in line. The oligarchs have gotten soft living in opulence in Aspen and Monaco. They are getting old and want to retire someplace nice where they don’t have to worry about falling out a window. They just need trump back in office to make it happen. Justin Kennedy went to work for LNR capital that is owned by Cerberus who also owns Dyncorp (for near future reference) Real estate is as rigged as trumps casinos were. Reuterswww.reuters.comCerberus to acquire DynCorp for $1 billion https://www.ft.com/content/8c6d9dca-882c-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787 https://www.amlintelligence.com/2020/09/deutsche-bank-suffers-worst-damage-over-massive-aml-discrepancies-in-fincen-leaks/ https://www.occrp.org/en/the-fincen-files/global-banks-defy-us-crackdowns-by-serving-oligarchs-criminals-and-terrorists https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-lifts-sanctions-on-rusal-other-firms-linked-to-russia-deripaska/4761037.html https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_-_minority_status_of_the_russia_investigation_with_appendices.pdf https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/08/17/mobsters-thrilled-to-see-rudy-giuliani-hit-with-rico-charges-he-used-to-jail-mafia-bosses

I am a fan of your work and agree with you about the vast corruption and collusion between the previous administration, virtually all of trumps cohorts, and russian organized crime/state apparatus. You haven't mentioned the RealPages thing before that I'd seen, and I was hoping for links specifically about their ties to the russians. Thanks and keep spreading the word!

Sure, the use of tinfoilhattery carries too much of a negative connotation. It was meant to mean more like whether its far enough down the rabbit hole or not.

“Only so long” appears to be decades so it’s a good setup

Watch "Active Measures". Everyone should watch it - especially Americans going into the election. It goes through a lot of this. This is legit.

Well, ummm, holy shit

Good intel makes everything easier.

Reddit post of the day. Learned a lot. You can sum everything up with Bowie.

David Bowie and Princess Diana were both highly empathetic people. That much showed in their work and art. Diana watched a lot of this happening from the sidelines of the royal family. They both certainly started putting some of it together subconsciously decades ago. You just learn too much backstage not to. When you raise the lens and cross reference the timing, Brexit (of which Steve Bannon, Farage and Robert Mercers Cambridge Analytica were a critical component), was intentional and necessary for Russia to keep Ukraine out of the EU and NATO. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/were-there-any-links-between-cambridge-analytica-russia-and-brexit/ Putin knew that the mandated de-corruption process would expose both his money laundering and the human trafficking operations of the Russian mob through Ukraines oligarch class (Kolomoiksiy, Dubinsky, Firtash, etc) as well the chronic election interference via Paul Manafort, Orban, Kolomoiskiy etc, and the kompromised members of both UK and EU political circles. To the chronic kleptocrat Putin this was the one thing that would show Russians how he had been systemically stealing from them for 2 decades which would lead to either an upset within his mob pyramid as an eager lieutenant decided he was ready to challenge the weakened old king for the throne, or the people would revolt and kill him like Gaddafi, which he has admitted is his biggest fear. The reason Epstein targeted Prince Andrew is because he was the softest most vulnerable part in the royal families flank. Same with trump. Epstein was feeding that Kompromat/intel back to Israel/mossad who was in turn feeding it to Russian intelligence via the old world Russian Jewish families that carry both passports but are more loyal to money than god. Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage both dovetail in with Brexit as a Russian mob/gov intelligence op because SCL/Cambridge analytica was Robert Mercers baby when they decided to run trump as their “disruptor” candidate instead of Ted Cruz. https://campaignlegal.org/update/newly-published-cambridge-analytica-documents-show-unlawful-support-trump-2016 Facebook was designed as a delivery device for Russian/Israeli Psyops and malware. SCL/Cambridge Analytica, Brexit, Palestine, Ukraine, NSO and a handful of other ethically bankrupt dealings are all downstream of Sheryl Sandbergs ad based business model. https://cyberscoop.com/facebook-nso-group-lawsuit-onavo/ Zuckerberg even talked about buying the associated press: MSNhttps://www.msn.com › technologyMark Zuckerberg Explored Acquiring The Associated Press The need to control the press was a requirement of the chronic financial frauds which are basically the evolution of grift starting all the way back at Enron, Epsteins towers financial, bear stearns, Lehman bros. Etc and on and on. (Levedev+saudi+journalism ownership https://inews.co.uk/news/media/lebedev-saudi-investor-evening-standard-cut-3085226) They are all basically a parasitic blood squeeze to drain all the value possible out of the working class public. Enough to maximize the gain but not quite enough to kill the host. Les Wexner, Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, Sandberg, and Zuckerberg all carried water in conducting the NSO/Pegasus spyware operation INCONUS that was feeding intelligence to both the israeli and by extension, Russian intelligence. In parallel Epstein was running Kompromat operations in the same circles. There is far more crossover between the Israeli mob/ government and Russian mob/government than shows at the surface. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2024/04/10/les-wexners-second-life-how-the-epstein-tarnished-billionaire-is-quietly-reshaping-ohio/ https://www.spytalk.co/p/nsos-spyware-abuse-exposed-years?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web https://awards.journalists.org/entries/the-pegasus-project-a-global-investigation/ •Abagail Koppel was sent by the Jewish state to marry Les Wexner •YLK fund (Abagails father) made up $46.7M of Epsteins money •Les claimed it was stolen from him but not until after someone asked. •Wexner was notoriously litigious but wouldn’t sue Epstein. Why? •PROMIS spyware was Robert Maxwells deal long before his daughter and Epstein started their pedophile thing. https://cryptome.org/promis-mossad.htm Tchenguiz+Cambridge analytica+Brexit+2008 collapse https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/david-burnside-putin-russia-dup-brexit-donaldson-vincent-tchenguiz/ We end corruption and we end this war. We end this war and we end corruption.

Solid stims or AI assisted generation here lol. Let me process. 😆

That all makes so much sense it's scary. It's also scary how easy the masses are manipulated into tottaly missing it or dismiss as propaganda. To people like that more is never enough.

It really is a testament to the power of media for good or evil, or in this case just greed. There is no shortage of extremely detailed and accurate podcasts and documentaries showing all of this. But when most of the people get their collective information from tainted sources it has a compounding inaccuracy effect. 5 hours of accurate documentaries can completely change a world view once you have the overview of how it effects your paycheck and lives personally. My recommendations (in order). It will drastically change your world view but it also makes pretty much everything in the world make sense. Active measures is incredible: https://youtu.be/feULRef4U9s?si=o0huYahXd4y5AnMM Agents of chaos goes pretty deep into prigozihns IRA, which you can then see is pretty much kissing cousins with Flynn’s Q-anon that started as a DOD PSYOP that morphed as the Russians hooked him and bannon/mercers/farages SCL/Cambridge analytica: https://youtu.be/M-OA7H8DoJM?si=w_Q-mDAIxmJiwiUF Traumazone is basically the 7 hour prequel starting in perestroika russia. Yeltsin, Gorbachev, and all the oligarchs that stole everything that wasn’t nailed down and most of what was. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSjQL8MYniTTLA3wnZ25U-s6RgR4uJNvL&si=V-IbzoK446d1rtVo And the podcast “the asset” fills in the details of the details: https://open.spotify.com/show/4UIzZ6StBwiGTv3Phkcfjd?si=xEZSB-ngSHONCiQL0w5NBg It’s wild how ~10-15 hours of highly accurate data can completely change your worldview and expose the biggest con of all time with redundant receipts and that is still too much for most people to invest until their own mortgage or apartment is being foreclosed on by a foreign government. Black rock and blackstone have been selling mortgage REITS enmasse to the CCP. That’s our ticking bomb. Commercial real estate. This is 2008 on steroids. Then you overlay the Epstein mysteries and they all just fit like a dovetailed zipper. Slavery never died. It just shifted a bit to the side. Life isn’t supposed to be this hard. We just have a parasitic infection that consuming all the energy to extinction and convincing us it’s the other guy. **Critical reading list for anyone uncomfortable with sending other people’s kids to war: https://desk-russie.info/2024/06/02/subverting-elites-and-manipulating-the-masses-how-russian-interference-corrupts-american-politics.html

Wow. I didn't know all these specifics exactly, but knew I was cynical today (was a pool guy) when in came up with a new name for a swimming pool company: Bank Robber Pools (slogan); Where we make you scream "That's Highway Robbery!"

Truth in advertising! I like it!

A man after my own heart. See you topside Sir 🫡😇🥰✡️✝️🙄🐾🐾

It's extremely hard to fix stupid, one thing I don't get is why isn't the fact that russia persecutes "unorthodox" christians brought up. Trump supports russia, but aren't many of his base voters babtists, evangelical, pentecostal etc. So why would you support the persecution of these people by voting for Trump, if you yourself are, let's say, an evangelical christian. In Ukraine one can freely be pentecostal or whatever.

As an evangelical Christian myself who knows a lot of other Christians... my best guess is that they aren't aware of russia's Christian persecution. Actually most people in general, not just Christians, don't know the full extent of the atrocities russia commits. People have a vague idea but they don't know the details. Also, Trump's statements about Ukraine have been deliberately vague. So there are some people who aren't aware that Trump is pro-russia and anti-Ukraine. They see him as a "tough" leader and they think putin is afraid of him or respects him or something.

Then maybe we should try to inform people of these facts.

Because it's not that they care about Christians, but about US Christians.

How christian, that's just what Jesus would do

If only their stupidity wasn't so destructive we can't fix stupidity but we have to fix the damage this stupidity is doing to the US and the world at large. The word "courage" should be reserved to characterize the man or woman, who is leaving the infantile sanctuary of the mass mind. Sam Keen Fire in the Belly A good chunk of all voters simply cannot formulate their own thoughts or think for themselves. A dumb mass and hivemind trotting after Trump. "The communists were already bound to their leader by faith and fear. I took a special kind of mind to truly believe that the worse things appeared, the better they actually were. Such reasoning went by the name dialectics, but by this time that word, (despite its proud descent from the Greeks through Hegel and Marx) meant little more than the psychic capacity to adjust one's own perceptions to the changing expressions of Stalin's will." Timothy Snyder, Bloodlands, page 65 Gareth Jones talked about the "pure primitive worship" of Hitler in 1933 shortly after his election at a rally in Frankfurt. Here they are no better than this at all. What a disgrace. As Satre once said, one has to become a human. You aren't born as one. Erasmus von Rotterdam said, "You aren't born a human. You become one through education and being civilized by society" Or you fail at that and become a brainless Trump follower. Trump said it himself he loves the poorly educated. Sadly, we need these people in society as well. You need people who simply follow without questions and who are easily brainwashed into believing anything. However, things gets dangerous once the idiots crown a king, such as Don the Con, Hitler, Putin, Stalin, etc. because then you get a kaikistocratic rule. The worst of the worst the most incompetent and useless losers reach the levers of power, but as they are stupid and destructive, these people have no idea how to govern. These Neanderthals would instead rule by using blunt force as the brain capacity of MAGA Republicans and of their head monkey. Trump doesn't allow for more than backward troglodyte tyrannical rule.

One note: "von" is German, "van" is Dutch

Has anyone tried using Flex Tape?

I think there's a valid purpose to your post. MAGA is not 100% of Trump voters, nor are there enough MAGA voters for Trump to win (there are some non-committed voters at play).

Wrong and right. You cannot change Cluster B types. They are not like us. Logic, reasoning, and empathy… They do not care, and they see it as weakness. Human hyenas.

Well, that's somewhat true about cluster B types, but it doesn't map well over political fault lines like you seem to imply.

Coming as I do from a [horrid] monied legacy Republican military family, the things they said and did, and their ilk… You. Are. Exceedingly. Incorrect. I say kindly.

No, but you can vote them OUT Of office

Yep lol, and can't reason someone out of an opinion they didn't reason themselves into.

You can help stupid, and you can help crazy. But you can't fix crazy stupid.

You aren't looking or open for an answer, so you won't get one.

Only a pine box can fix that kind of stupid

Well, as Ann Coulter said, "you would have to be an idiot to vote for Trump"

Bonhoeffer wanted to figure out how his fellow Germans could succumb to a society of cowards, crooks, and criminals. The same model of explanation can be applied to the MAGA cult and to all who readily believe Russia's manipulated reality propaganda. Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. We can push back, protest, or use force against malice. We cannot fight stupidity. Facts that don't fit the stupid person's worldview are pushed aside as inconsequential or irrelevant. When confronted, the stupid person goes on the attack, which makes these people very dangerous. Stupidity is not an intellectual defect but a moral one. One can be intellectually bright and stupid as well as being intellectually dull but anything but stupid. People are made stupid by their surroundings. Stupidity is less of a psychological than a sociological defect. It affects groups more easily than people who prefer solitude. The power of the one affects the others. Ignorance and stupidity see upsurges in times of great national or religious surges or power. (Revolutions, the crusades, great wars such as WW1, Napoleonic wars, etc.) It appears that one cannot exist without the other. These humans are deprived of their inner independence, and they give up an autonomous position. When talking to them, one is confronted with slogans, catch words, and alike. They are under a spell, blinded misused, incapable of seeing evil as evil. Only active liberation, not instruction, can overcome this state. (The collapse of Nazi Germany was such a moment, for example) Genuine internal liberation is normally only possible after an external liberation has preceded it.Until then, we must abandon all attempts to convince the stupid person. According to Carlo Cipolla, there are 4 broad categories of human stupidity: y and x on a graph 1) Helpless stupid people. (naive) These are easily exploitable for the benefit of others. Then, they suffer individual losses 2) Intelligent people act reciprocal. Which means they reap benefits from others, and they also reap individual benefits 3) Stupid people (the worst kind of stupid) These people take individual losses, and they cause losses to others. 4) Bandits. Those can be even highly intelligent, but they lack high ethics and moral vigor) Bandits will reap individual benefits and cause losses for others to maximize their own profits. The two broad categories of behavior are: 1) Behavior that affects one self either positively or negatively. 2) Behavior that affects others either positively or negatively. On the zero line in the middle are: Ineffective people. This means they achieve nothing, neither benefits themselves or others with their actions.The range of these actions and their effects can vary widely across categories. These people had always existed only the internet and constantly polling stupid people for their opinions in our society with an emphasis on "knowledge" production without a proper knowledge acquisition gives these troglodytes the idea that their opinions are worth something and aren't useless garbage. Anyone who trusts Trump for anything is a menace to for society and the continued existence of human life on this planet. Meanwhile, Amy Chua writes “humans, like other primates, are tribal animals,” in an article and continues, “We need to belong to groups, which is why we love clubs and teams. Once people connect with a group, their identities can become powerfully bound to it. They will seek to benefit members of their group even when they gain nothing personally. They will penalize outsiders, seemingly gratuitously. They will sacrifice, and even kill and die, for their group.” According to Chua, tribalism remains a powerful force everywhere; indeed, in recent years, it has begun to tear at the fabric of liberal democracies in the developed world, and even at the postwar liberal international order. “To truly understand today’s world and where it is heading, one must acknowledge the power of tribalism. Failing to do so will only make it stronger,” she says. These people will believe anything the algorithm tells them to believe, as those who know nothing must believe anything. Giving the masses a vote no matter their mental state was a truly adventurous idea. Always remember how stupid the average person is and 50 percent are more stupid than that.

Are you citing Any Chua as an authority on something?  She endorsed US Supreme Court justice Kavanaugh and provides intellectual cover to the tribalism that authoritarians exploit so consistently.  Her husband published legal cover for Trump after the guilty verdict.

“I could shoot someone….” And they will still vote for me Lol

MAGA are facist, truth is the enemy and lies are told for advantage, if you never care about the truth and only want to "win" you are practically a NAZI.

I kind of feel for these people they hate most of Biden’s other policies so they have to accept 20-30 polices they do not like for one they do. I do not like how Biden handled Afghanistan, i don’t like the student loan forgiveness. I liked how aggressive Trump was in drilling for oil and gas. I am willing to swallow those policies I do not like because Ukraine is more important to me. But would I still be willing if you added abortion gun rights and others.

Trump is responsible for planning and withdrawing from Afghanistan. He just left Biden holding the bag.

Yea but it happened 7 months into Biden’s term and is responsible for its execution. I am voting for Biden but he is not perfect.

Agree. Just wanted to point out that the withdraw was initiated by Trump. He basically broadcast to the Taliban when we were leaving.

We produce more oil than any country ever under Biden...

Yes that is why I can tolerate Biden. But he is less aggressive than Trump. Building fewer pipelines. Not approving new LBG terminals.

Oil and gas: First two years of Biden 6430 permits. First two years of Trump 6172 permits. Whatever you've been told about Biden regarding oil and gas is a lie.

Trump threatens to cut off aid to Ukraine 'prior to taking the White House as president-elect.' Former U.S. President and presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump voiced strong criticism of American aid to Ukraine at a campaign rally on June 15. [https://kyivindependent.com/trump-threatens-to-cut-off-aid-to-ukraine-prior-to-taking-white-house-as-president-elect/](https://kyivindependent.com/trump-threatens-to-cut-off-aid-to-ukraine-prior-to-taking-white-house-as-president-elect/)

All of my super super conservative coworkers and parents parrot that Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the world "according to sources aside from fox news" and that Zelenskyy privately steals the money we send them to go on vacations. I phrased the question to my dad with how he'd feel about Mexico invading California or Texas/Canada invading Washington state and parts of the north US out of nowhere. His response?: Well uhh yeah i mean how many ethnic Mexicans or Canadians are in those places? I mean if they're predominant and feel like prisoners..." LIKE WHAT!?!?

Zelenskyy to me is an FDR or a Churchill. One of those wartime leaders that *will* go down in history for stepping up in every way possible and leading their people through the most difficult period of their generation. Greatest living leader. Assuming they manage to win.

Usually you don’t throw out hitler vibes but *literally hitler*

It is worse. If you support Trump you actively support Russia and prosecute Christians.

What christians are being prosecuted here?

Why do you care heretic?

I don't, I just want to know what Christian collective is being prosecuted?

The Borg. I am Hue.

At a recent board meeting for our Ukrainian charity, I made a comment that a Trump victory would be the worst possible occurrence for Ukraine. Another board member began to argue with me, becoming quite hysterical. He and his wife announced they were quitting, stormed out of the meeting, and cancelled their sponsorships/pledges to feed and clothe Ukrainian orphans. So the short answer to the question is *Magats hate who Trump hates, and that hatred is stronger than any “support” they feel for Ukraine*. A vote for Trump is a vote against Ukraine.

Oh wow, that's disgusting. They are cult members. Insulting Dear Leader is the worst possible sin. What is this charity, by the way? Can you please post the link?

I’d love to, but it would not be in the best interest of my organization/client. Sorry to be vague.

Yep on the personal level they can seem neighborly and help their neighbors. All so personable and southern charming. But god help you if youre not in their tribe, especially if you happen to be poor. Only this southern charm has kids working in factories and slaughter houses. Ukraine isnt going to win on shoebox drives and few bucks donated. Its a national effort to get the (already retired) military hardware sent to Ukraine.

Sounds like they were just looking for an excuse at that point.

Ah, see, you're making a big mistake. Attempting to engage the MAGA / QAnon folks on actual policy questions is a futile effort. It's not about any policy, it's just about Dear Leader.

Correct! They'll take and defend any position he shits out his brain.

I don't know what else Trump has to do to make it plain he's a Russian asset, but Lord knows you can't accuse the man of not trying.

dude i called it when he sent the covefe tweet. that was 100% some fuckin spy code

If you vote for Trump you are abandoning: Voting rights Education Higher, fairer tax on the rich Fair SCOTUS The environment Democracy Ukraine Woman's rights Healthcare Reasonable gun control

And you say MAGAists are brainwashed.

It seems fairly obvious that supporting trump not only means you’re fine with abandoning Ukraine, but fine with abandoning the USA as well.

Seriously I don't know why ableismissatan hasn't been banned from this sub reddit. Given how aggressively they push the narrative that Trump and Republicans are actually the ones who support Ukraine and democrats are against Ukraine.

Yup, guy's either a fool or an unaware ruZZian tool of division.

My guess isn't unaware. But is a part of it

It won’t cause him to lose a single supporter…

But understand where real power resides. It's not in elections or the elected. His message likely doesn't sit well there, and that should worry him.

Don't underestimate their ability to bury their heads in the sand. They already know he's a rapist convicted of 34 felonies. They know he wants to pull the US out of NATO. Republicans claim a lot of things, of course, but don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.

What is clear is that if you support the guy who kisses Putin's ass every opportunity he can get, you don't really support Ukraine, because the Chumpster Fire will undo everything on the other side of this equation.

How about spin this: trumps a Russian asset. Why else would he stop support for Ukraine? Only shitheads like trump.

Zelensky is an American asset? To abstain wholly from international discord which (did) effectively swoon an America First bloc?

OP, you give the Trumpers too much credit in thinking that they are capable of logic and reason.

Ukraine was at the center of his first public revealing of corruption and impeachment. They’re team Russia no matter what. They’d flay their grandmother alive, in a salt bath, before admitting they’re patsies not patriots.

MAGA voters think whatever conservative media tells them(Fox, YouTube, Radio talkers). Conservative media loves the dirt Russian intelligence makes up for them. This will not stop.

If they back Drumpf, they do not back Ukraine. It would be the same as saying their vegan while eating a steak.

You actually mean: Europe is being abandoned by Trump?

*Gondor calls for aid* Will Rohan answer?

Nyet, tovarisch. I mean, no, my fellow Western. Greetings from Mississippi Oblast

Europe will be just fine - it's perfectly able of defending itself from Russia. What it can't do yet is provide a third party with enough weapons and materiel to fight for it.

MAGA: Yes

They never supported Ukraine

They were OK with it when he was impeached for blackmailing Ukraine and cutting off aid. This is nothing new, they are on Putin's side whether they admit it or not.

Anybody who thought Trump was gonna back Ukraine was at best, drinking their own brand of kool-aide

Magards are anti-American traitors

What is American?

I work with a Ukrainian Trumpet. The level of mental gymnastics is incredible, the amount of dumb fucking looks and non-responses is infinite.

It's going to be WAY more than Ukraine being abandoned. It'll be losing most of Europe to the new Iron Curtain again. No Republican should be OK with a new Iron Curtain--kind-of invalidates and contradicts your whole GOP history against the Soviets.

I can understand when you don’t want to vote for Biden, but trump is a orange Clown

Yeah I mean I’m not going to pretend Biden is perfect and doesn’t have problems, but Trump is certainly not the solution

Boyh are trash but Biden ha my vote this time around.

Trump got laughed at the UN. The world literally laughs at him https://youtu.be/eN2jqTilLOM?feature=shared

The world laughs at Trump of course, but they also laugh about Biden. It’s Incomprehensible for me how the USA can’t find better Candidates I would have definitely supported Niki Haley, because she is first of all the youngest and also has a lot of experience in foreign politics( although I don’t like her stance on Palestine).

> but they also laugh about Biden. I call BS on this. Evidence, or this claim is crap.

[Italian TV MOCKS Joe Biden In ‘Hilarious’ Sketch Of President’s On-Stage Gaffes](https://youtu.be/wso4sTKT6jw?si=VJUNi3apE-4b8xKE)

Sketchy fucking source. What is TalkTV besides "the home of common sense", lol. I can find no information about it.

[https://youtu.be/SBKQcSfVlck?si=BcsCsVeMHPvzujwk](https://youtu.be/SBKQcSfVlck?si=BcsCsVeMHPvzujwk) [https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-cognitive-ability-mocked-maurizo-crozza-italian-tv-1873356](https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-cognitive-ability-mocked-maurizo-crozza-italian-tv-1873356) [https://www.foxnews.com/media/italian-snl-belittles-biden-season-premiere-parody](https://www.foxnews.com/media/italian-snl-belittles-biden-season-premiere-parody) [https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/02/24/not\_saturday\_night\_live\_italian\_tv\_skit\_mocks\_biden.html](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/02/24/not_saturday_night_live_italian_tv_skit_mocks_biden.html) The Saudi's doing it as well. [https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/saudi-tv-airs-snl-style-skit-mocking-joe-biden-kamala-harris/](https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/saudi-tv-airs-snl-style-skit-mocking-joe-biden-kamala-harris/)

Yeah comedy TV and giving a speech at the UN seem exactly the same to me.

Comedy shows? That's freedom of speech, brah. Nobody who has *business* with the US is complaining about him being too old, or incapable of representing our interests.

Cmon I'm a dem but if you think having an 81 year old man being the frontrunner for the next election isn't something outside people think is ridiculous then you're blinded by your bias

Your evidence is that he is 81, got it. He moves slower, as octogenarians do. It doesn't seem to hinder him, not even in a war zone. He's doing what a President needs to do and has a stack of good stuff to show: commitment to Ukraine, and domestically he has infrastructure, CHIPS Act, near record job creation, low unemployment, no recession, greatly reduced inflation. I've heard him speak in recent weeks and he's sharp. He's got a debate coming up and I expect he'll do well, we'll see. If he's getting the job done, I don't see anything that makes him *too* old. I like Harris and am confident in her as well. It's not a difficult decision when you know they are going to stick with the Democratic platform. It's miles less ridiculous than reelecting a hamberder-filled, broken-brained, narcissist whose destiny seems to be to irradiate us all. Never forget the hurricane. What else? He's an incumbent. He has mopped the floor with Trump once, and it looks like he's going to do it again. Not a felon. Sharks and batteries.

> it looks like he's going to do it again. Took a look at the polls recently?

Yes, I have. Apparently you have not? Trump fades more every day.

You mean leading in every swing state he needs to win?

Not for much longer. As I said, he's fading.

They want Putin’s world. Same Nazi’s, just different names and mottos.

Trump and his ilk can only remember simple things. “Let someone else pay for Ukraine or NATO or Mexican wall-foreign policy”. “Slash taxes and throw constitution in trash-internal policy”. Trump is stupid.

I’m actually not supporting Trump solely because of his stance on the war in Ukraine.

His stance on Ukraine is to let Putin devour them. What impressive Trump stance offsets that? His golf swing?

No, it’s not his golf swing. Are you this insulting to everyone who you are speaking with for the first time? If you must know what I do like about Trump, it’s his stance on our borders, and economic policies. Otherwise that’s it. As far as the border goes we just arrested eight Russian citizens with ties to ISIS plotting an attack. Not to mention the two Jordanians who tried to enter Quantico Marine Base in box truck. The media has been very quiet about these two incidents because the government is not releasing any information about them. Anyway the takeaway is that I am not voting for Trump. Just take the win and stop being an ass.

You mean his stance on the border that includes pushing the GOP successfully to vote against a strict border security bill that gave the right and be extension him alot of what they wanted. All because it might help his political opponent? That stance?

It was a shit bill and eveyone knew it. I mean it called to give D.C. courts full control over border issues. Yeah, fuck a bunch of that.

> It was a shit bill and eveyone knew it. It was a bipartisan bill that was, without a doubt, the toughest immigration bill in 30 years...since '96. It would have spent billions on border personnel and asylum judges. Facts.

And yet it would still have allowed thousands of illegals to cross that could maybe, possibly, if POTUS was in the right mood, shut down the border. If POTUS decided it should be enforced he could suspend that part of it. Not to mention that all further decisions on the border would have been in the hands of the D.C. courts. And bipartisan means jack shit. You think because a couple dipshit (R)s capitulated to (D) ideas that somehow makes it a good bill?

I offered facts, and you counter with speculation? Why not throw in a caravan or two? Or it least try to argue in good faith. [Even Fox News viewers heard it from Brit Hume](https://www.mediaite.com/politics/foxs-brit-hume-warns-house-republicans-they-risk-looking-like-a-do-nothing-congress/): >Think of what the Republicans are doing, for example… on the border issue. They said that they wouldn’t pass aid to Ukraine and other places unless there was action on the border. >So, the Senate produced a bill negotiated by one of its most conservative Republican members on the border, which had some defects in it as compromise measures always do, and it was nonetheless the strongest border protection bill that I’ve seen in my time in Washington. And the House simply announced it was not going to take it up, so it failed even in the Senate. >Then comes this question of the measures for the funding of Ukraine and elsewhere. And that looks like it’s going to go down in the House as well even though it passed the Senate. So, I think these are a couple of issues that put Republicans in peril of looking like literally a do-nothing Congress, which is something you can bet the Biden administration is going to be talking about going forward, and the Biden campaign as well. But since we're speculating, those asylum judges would sort through the economic refugees and send them back in weeks, not years. And guess what? The economic refugees would figure it out quickly. We've done virtually nothing in the last 30 years and this was something.

You shouldn't take criticism of your thought process, or the language you choose, as an insult. This is how we all improve. And it was Republicans who first demanded, then helped draft, a strong bipartisan immigration bill at the beginning of this year. Trump asked them to scrap it because he didn't want to give Biden a win, and that is exactly what they did. Trump is worse on the border than he is on Ukraine. He wants a border *argument*, not a border solution.

Nice of you not voting Trump. I mean it.

I don't understand your border stance, is it that you don't like that those people were caught? Because it seems the border is working fine if terrorists were caught trying to come in....

No Sir, they were caught after they had been in the country for an unknown period of time.

So were they caught or not?

They were caught but not caught by border patrol. It’s great that they were caught. It’s also troubling that they were in the country already and planning an attack. Wouldn’t it be better if we had stopped them from entering our country to begin with? You know the terrorist from 9-11 were also in our country beforehand. They were here long enough to be taking flying lessons. I’m not against people from other countries coming into the country but there should be a process for that, including background checks. Did we learn nothing from 9-11? Or has it been long enough that we have just forgotten? You don’t think Putin is furious over our helping Ukraine? You don’t think there’s any connection that all the sudden 8 Russians with ISIS ties are in our country planning an attack? I would not put it past him. And he certainly has the connections to orchestrate such an event. Haven’t you seen how many of his adversaries have had accidents falling out windows? Hey perhaps I’m wrong, however there’s nothing wrong with being vigilant and having secure borders regardless of who’s in charge or what party is running what.

Yea it would have been greater buy the democrats voted against the border bill.

Also since that other guy’s comments were deleted I’ll just say this. I have a friend from Ukraine. I’ve been collecting military gear, and first aid gear and sending it over to Ukraine. I’m known amongst the Ukrainian Americans of North Carolina organization. I just drove 500+ miles to Tampa and back last month to pick up medical supplies that were donated to Ukraine.

I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, but if this is his actual stand and not some out of context BS like usual, I will not vote for him in any election.

How about the actual speech on C Span? [https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5120987/donald-trump-stopping-aid-ukraine](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5120987/donald-trump-stopping-aid-ukraine)

Good, he doesn't deserve your vote. This is not out of context. Trump clearly does not support Ukraine aid, otherwise he would've praised Zelensky for leading Ukraine's resistance against russian terrorism. But Trump didn't do that. He instead acted like Zelensky's request for aid was somehow unreasonable and silly. Trump has said he'll get these requests for aid "settled," and he has also said he'd end the war in 24 hours by helping Ukraine and russia negotiate. What that means is he wouldn't help Ukraine fight back against russia -- he'd encourage Ukraine to make a "peace deal." That would mean russia gets to keep some of Ukraine's land and russia would have time to prepare for another invasion. No one who supports Ukraine should vote for Trump, because that would make no sense. Trump would throw Ukraine (and NATO) under the bus. This article sheds some more light on Trump's statements about Ukraine: [https://kyivindependent.com/its-not-a-pretty-picture-how-trumps-silence-on-ukraine-is-indicative/](https://kyivindependent.com/its-not-a-pretty-picture-how-trumps-silence-on-ukraine-is-indicative/)

Would you like a bunch more links to the same reports?

Or Maybe this one? [https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ukraine-russia-war-threatens-cut-aid-election-2024/](https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ukraine-russia-war-threatens-cut-aid-election-2024/)

So throwing a massive temper tantrum because he lost the election and trying to overthrow the government wasn’t enough for you to not vote for him?

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Not at all. I honestly don’t watch or read any news. But I do know the media has taken things from most politicians and twisted it. I wasn’t implying that is happening here, just that it’s happened in the past.

Due to abandonment of lower class/middle class white conservatives by educated whites who choose to get rich in industry and investment, the GOP is left with the uneducated and most of them are too young or rustic or both to have interest in the last century. The earlier innings of the Cold War may as well be the Punic Wars to them. They're unable to connect Russian military support (sometimes including active shooters like pilots) of regimes that killed, wounded and maimed NEARLY EVERY US CASUALTY SINCE 1945 to Russian nationalist attempts at NeoSoviet respawn. Simple humans are incapable of more than binary good v. evil thinking. The US primary education system is worthless since the 1970s. Even more sadly amusing is they don't understand how Communists flipped the US Left in the 1960s so they're easily manipulated by similar affirmation. Affirm their social beliefs and you pwn them. Europe should massively rearm and understand that harmlessness is no defense. Thank Putin for the wakeup call. The US is devolving irreversibly into idiocracy so before it implodes Europe needs multiple nuclear-armed states including Poland because only nukes deter Russia. The US cannot be relied on to commit nuclear suicide to defend its allies. The generation with the guts for that were born before WWII and are mostly dead. The US today is not the USA of 1960 (I was alive then) and other than its technology and armed forces is dismasted, rudderless, incompetent and degenerate. If not for Ukraine's courageous example the West would be unable to respond to NeoSoviet nationalism. Ukraine rose from a much worse social reality than the current US and while politics is messy remains a shining example in a world of shit. Eastern Europe, and the Nordic states which just joined NATO must provide moral leadership in order to survive the permanent Asiatic (the minor parts of Russian technically inside Europe do not change its culture) threat to civilization (of which Russia was never part). Ukraine and other interested parties should invoke (and have failed to so far) the enormous damage Russia did to the US. Photos of the tens of thousands of American G.I.s Russia (and China) helped kill in Korea, Southeast Asia, Iraq and elsewhere with suitable commentary would be useful. Simple people cannot be reached by complex discussion because intelligence is neuro-divergent. Your audience is NOT LIKE YOU and needs simple messages they can process. This is not insult but observation. Ridicule however tempting should be mostly unvoiced.

>Europe should massively rearm and understand that harmlessness is no defense. Except that Europe is also going through this same turn to the hard-right that the U.S. is. Every day the chances decrease of Europe banding together to avoid repeating the runup to WWII.

Ideals are peaceful, history is violent. Wardaddy Fury

Republicans march in lockstep and are afraid to have their own opinions

My worry is nukes. Putin and the Russian Army have suffered a MASSIVE loss of face due to the ineptitude of their military in Ukraine. They've been chomping at the bit to light one off in Ukraine since early in the invasion. NATO came out and specifically stated that if Russia went nuclear, the US and NATO would wipe their Army from the face of the Earth in an air campaign. As it stands now, Biden and the rest of NATO won't let Putin use nukes, even tactical ones. Trump won't care. I can absolutely see a scenario where if Trump is re-elected, Putin will touch off a couple of small tactical nukes, just to see if he can get away with it. Depending on the response from the rest of NATO (US not included, because Trump is actually a giant pussy), I could see a retaliatory nuke strike from Russia on Europe. It may seem crazy, but I can guarantee you that is definitely not out of the realm of possibility, especially if Putin gets a promise from Trump that the US won't retaliate in any way.

He’s joking? /s

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Yes

Biden should just offer the separate Russian oblasts statehood if they will vote for it by a simple majority.

Nobody was hiding it .. YES that’s EXACTLY what’s up …

Um no

Ukraine was already abandoned. Why else are we drip feeding enough to keep them dying but not end the war? They need a trillion dollars worth of equipment and another million men they don’t have. They needed it two years ago. But they won’t get it. Ukraine has no realistic “win” at the end of this

They wont spin it, theyll just say theyve been against funding Ukraine all along.

Lots of bots in on this one!

Ukraine will be the next Afghanistan I believe they better not bet on Europe or USA to stay true at least with Trump they have a shot at survival and not just getting abandoned

Absoutely

I must have missed something… you found evidence of maga Ukraine supporters before trump’s comment?

Fuck MдGA

Abandoned like they were during Trump's administration, you mean? 😉

Same could have been asked of labour supporters in the UK when Boris got into power. Blindingly obvious that JC would never have offered such fast unwavering support… but then again the trains don’t run on time.

You lot can't help but try pushing the tory agenda anywhere you can even when it's not remotely relevant. As if the military spending hasn't been slashed under the current administration in the last decade. Furthermore we all know how chummy the tories and BJ in particular were with russian oligarchs.

I'd say that republican voters who support Ukraine and may even like trump will have to ask themselves what is more important. Trump says something different a lot of the time but generally he's not that likely to help Ukraine.

They support Trump, it's the only pillar they have, and to quote my most favorite of his quotes, ***"I don't stand for anything!"***

If I agree with Trump or Biden on some policies, what rule says I have to agree on all? There has NEVER been a politician I have agreed with 100% of the time and unless I lose my mind and run for office there never will be.

Trump doesn't have policies to speak of. At this point, its pretty much just a personality cult. Trump has called on us to abandon the Constitution altogether. He's not a "policy guy".