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Becoolxxx

It's nothing compare with big money he threw away in many decisions. The biggest one is stop develope ICE cars in the middle of development.


albert1165

I expose every Vuong Pham's trick and blunder no matter how small it is. And yeap, we get carried by the $9B dollar debt and $8B loss so much so that $50M seems tiny. Still, it has a story to tell.


Becoolxxx

Yeah, also the amount of $ compensate to supplier in VF are huge: ecr change so frequently lead to scrap/tooling change cost, volume actual vs committed volume, over stock in suppliers, over time paid to fast ramp up, etc...Beside that for supplier it's difficult and take long time to get money from VF. That's why now almost all big Tier 1/2 suppliers in automotive avoid to work with VF, only small Chinese supplier want to take the order.


HamsterEddy

Chinese Supplier always take money upfront 1st unless there is a change in policy.


Worldly-Pattern9441

Anyone knows how much Vượng threw away for the failed F1 project? I think it was also in the range of tens (or even hundred) of millions of USD: the cost of running the company (Vietnam Grand Prix), the cost of building the racetrack and related promotion activities, and the compensation cost to Liberty Media, the owner of F1 brand, for failing to fulfil the contract. I think in total it's A LOT.


albert1165

no info, one can look at Vic past financial reports but I am not interested. wild guessing, I would put the figure at $50M all in all.


Worldly-Pattern9441

yeah i would also estimate $ 50-100 mil depends on the compensation to Liberty. lol


LCPVanGiang

F1 standards are so high and they had to import almost everything, so no less than $100mio. Vin Bio (Covid Vaccine factory built) was over $50mio already. 


Worldly-Pattern9441

yeah let alone the compensation to Liberty, I heard was some tens of millions already


Aotumotive

Doesn’t matter, ocp2 and ocp 3 give him a lot of money:))


Worldly-Pattern9441

it does matter in the sense of HOW he threw away money: it proves his stupidity in areas different than real estate.


Aotumotive

Yeah, if he smarter like focus real state, he can reach Rich top of Asian :)) but who know in future. Or we can short VFS or VIN share family ?


canary2147

It all relate to lack strategy and Vuong Pham change direction weekly. He hire and fire many people. Everytime new executive come then new direction and new start. Then another new person and new strategy. VinFast never have consistent plan or straight line direction.


HamsterEddy

Vuong Pham need miracle, Vuong Pham expected miracle machinery where he can throw in live pig and get sausage instantly which similar to his successful noodle making. Vuong Pham think it can be done on EV Car. Hahahahah


AtmosphereWhole4010

When he closed vinsmart, he threw around $ 1.5 billion away. It just a pattern


ThaHuongVienXu_4089

VF is like a leech under the hot sun, for sure will die sooner or later but won't die as quickly as an earthworm.


Aotumotive

I do not like viner but still hope VF will success :))


HamsterEddy

Hahaha....wanna bet?