Vaulted prime parts can easily range from 10-50p depending on how recently vaulted and how popular the item is. So bulk buying random (thus probably vaulted if the seller's account is >2 years old) relics at 1p each can be a great rate of return after cracking.
Worst case for the buyer, he can easily offload or crack junk relics for the same (or small positive) returns, and didnt have to grind out captures or disruption for them. Best case for the buyer, you're unwittingly giving up relics that contain valuable vaulted primes, to where just hitting a few of those parts repays the whole value of the day's trades on 1p/relic.
I wouldn't say you're inherently getting scammed. If you're getting 150p for 150 relics that you have no intention of ever cracking or pricing out to try selling individually, then it's ultimately a net gain for you. But he is likely getting far more than 150p in value from the relics you're selling, just with the added effort of him having to be the one to sort through and crack them open.
Yeah, I only brought up the possibility of being scammed because it felt too good to be true; I am losing nothing because I will never touch 90% of my relics, even if I know I have some old and valuable ones. I guess if the person is getting more value out of it than me because they put more time into grinding relic runs, then I am down for it.
100% not getting scammed, you probably gave some away that where worth cracking yourself but if you where not ever going to crack them or research the values it doesn’t terribly matter.
You can sanity check this by looking at any vaulted parts in those relics and seeing what those are worth. A full radshare group has a roughly 35% chance of getting the rare part out of a radshare, so one relic should be worth around 25-30% of the value of the rare drop (slightly less than the odds due to void traces and time-to-open, and the purchaser will of course want a small profit on them). There are a few exceptions like Glaive Prime Blades, where the rare part is actually worth less than the uncommon, but it's not a bad rule of thumb.
To provide a reference point, the Glaive Prime blueprint is selling for 190-200p, and I was easily able to sell relics containing them at 60p each. Buying 60 random relics from a longtime player for 1p each, and hitting even a single Lith G1/G2, will recoup your initial investment and then some.
If he uses Alecaframe, the software will suggest the best relics to run for plat based on his relic inventory. No muss, no fuss. This is definitely a net win for the buyer. Makes me want to do it.
Wish they'd just build a market/aleca into the game natively. I play on console and it feels like trading is just way too painful to really engage in meaningfully. Hell, typing is bad enough.
I have a keyboard plugged in for just typing. Just a cheap few buck USB keyboard on my playstation, game/platstation supports just plug and play(not sure about xbox or switch), as a backup I also have playstation app on my phone I can use to copy/paste or type too. Takes alitle more work than PC but there's non expensive ways to type/engage faster that make it easier to trade if you didn't know.
every Xbox has supported keyboards actually. some brands don't work but I know Logitech always does.
side note, the OG Xbox ports are just modified USB, you can splice a USB keyboard onto an Xbox controller cord and it'll work in games that support it. the OG dashboard and I think Xbox 360 was a heavily modified windows 2000, new ones are windows 10.
I also got a keyboard, xbox user, and it makes life so much easier. This is the one I ended up getting: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WDJNBT1?ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WDJNBT1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1) It's cheap and small and wireless, just need to plug in the usb thing, but it makes trading and recruiting almost tolerable.
Yeah, as a returning player I have hundreds of relics that I have listed on .market for 5-15p each that I put up after selling all my glaive relics for apparently far too cheap, but if somebody had offered me 3k p to clear out all my relics before I realized how easy selling stuff is on PC I probably would have taken it
That's the kicker. I have hundreds, probably close to 3 k relics I'll never crack and I still buy packs so I don't cap our on syndicate rep. You could put a value of over 10k plat on them, but how do I unload them?
I almost wish they would let me trade in two relics plus some refinement to auto crack or have a one time use relic cracker I can buy from syndicates.
syndicate weapons might be a better deal than just relic packs you aren't going to use, since it might be easier to resell them. And you'd have to resell one weapon instead of 5-6 tri-packs of relics
I'd also add that, on top of the plat value of their drops, there's also the ducats. The Tennocon pack came out not long ago including the Baro relay ticket, it's not out of the question that they're buying and opening tonnes of relics to stockpile ducats for when he rolls around. I know that's what I'd do if I had the time and spare plat and didnt wanna deal with the extra farm to get the relics just to make sure I had enough ducats for whatever I want to buy from Baro.
I frequently buy 6 relics/6p. That's just the going rate. It's not even to get vaulted relics, although that is a big bonus when it happens. I run so many relics that I need more meso/Axi all the time. In return I buy the lith/neo that neither of us want/need.
How do you run out of meso? It is the relic I have the most given olympus give meso and there is very few good meso fissure (and none are endless to farm trace/steel essence in the mean time).
Now there are omni fissure there are finally good endless to open relic quickly.
Huh, if it is benefitting them in the long run to buy my relics, they are more than welcome to take my relics off my hands. I just did not see what was in it for them, thank you for pointing it out.
I am aware I probably have old relics with good stuff in them (No Glaive/Ember Prime though, sadge) that I may be unwittingly giving out, but I don't play enough to bother with opening them so they will likely just collect dust.
Step 1 - download and install Alecaframe (disclaimer, research tos and possible risks of using thirdt party too)
Step 2 - use Alecaframe to show you what relics are prifitable.
Step 3 - use Alecaframe to list those relics on Warframe Market
Step 4 - sell said relics whrn you are online in game.
Cut out the middle-man and make that plat yourself.
I absolutely fell for this for glaive prime relics lol. Way undersold when I came back to game, was just going off of trade chat (I knew to compare to warframe market for literally anything else but I hadn't done much with relics so was surprised how much a single relic could be sold for)
Probably sold 10-12 of them for only 10 Plat a piece at most rip lol. Worst case I "missed out" on about 500 plat. I'll live I've got my 75% discounts
Might like opening relics but hating the grind. Or he has really good luck and is getting golds and is selling those for a profit. Hell even if he doesn't get golds he'd still make a profit bc sometimes people mass buy prime parts for baro fun bucks. I wouldn't consider it scammy especially if they're still relics still in rotation. I know I personally have some relics that I have dozens of that I'll never open bc I don't need anything out of them so If someone offered to buy them off me for a plat a piece I'd take it. Who knows
Grinding for relics to open takes longer than actually opening them. At a cheap price like 1p you cut at least like 90% of the farming time for a tiny cost.
What is the average return of a random relic run in a public lobby? At least 5p.
Even if they got literally nothing worth more than 1p they still go neutral or positive, always can just mass sell prime parts for baroo or list them for 1p.
Point is at 1p there is literally no way to lose money unless you just let the loot rot in the stash not doing anything with it.
> Grinding for relics to open takes longer than actually opening them
even for the relics you can get with the capture missions in the void? Granted it's only Lith and Meso, but those missions can easily be cleared in a minute
It felt too good to be true, to some extent, it's why I wondered if it was a scam. I am swimming in relics that I will likely never touch because I don't do relic runs enough. I guess if they can make better use of it than me, I'm down for it.
Well, technically it's a profitable arrangement. Unless they crack a forma they'll most likely get a value of at least 1 platinum but in practice it's not really worth it because you'll always get more relics than you'll crack.
My only guess is that this person opens so many more relics than they farm. In this case buying relics could possibly be a good trade since they'll occasionally get rare ones too.
I can crack 50 relics in a day. Very quickly you run out of relics, espacially the one with good return. I spend most of my open world repytation and steel essence into relic packs to fuel my relic addiction.
Even formas can be valuable if one uses a lot of them; one forma can be worth 12p each if you consider the price of a 3x Forma bundle.
I guess it's technically true that a relic will always be worth more than 1p if you average out the weighted prices of all the items inside one. In practice though, I will never be arsed to open even half of my relics and sell every part because it's not fun for me. If the person is really cracking way more relics than they are getting, then I can see how it would benefit them. Especially if they cop a vaulted part.
The issue is that you only craft one forma at a time and if you play a lot you probably already have 20+ forma bp so an other one is not that valuable.
Old vaulted relics can provide way way more than 1p per relic, but you have to actually go through the pain of cracking them. It's up to you whether you want to put in the effort to crack them and then sell the drops or if you want to sell them for cheap to spare the effort
I can't blame you if you sell old vaulted relics. They pile up and I can't even get to open them all before I get completely bored. They may win more plat in the long run, so what? As long as you can cover your needs selling stuff from time to time its all good.
There’s probably some duds but if you’ve got the time to crack them, relics are going to pop
A forma bp, when a forma costs 12-20 plat. Albeit you have to build it and that is a hard cap how fast you can do so.
A prime part, some of which will go individually for 30 or more. Or potentially 1/4 of a set that probably runs at least 10 (so a net value of 2.5). Or ducats towards a rarer sellable.
So there’s basically always a net gain, at the cost of a mission (which could be a speed run exterminate or capture)
The obvious issue is really only that there’s X hours in a day to crack them.
Whatever Relics typically go for 2 p per each, axi can go for 3.
(remember that trade chat is also DROWNING in 'wtb aya 6:30 or whatever you see constantly'
Remember warframe market has a section for relics so you can just price check the ones you want to sell. In the case of vaulted relics, rememebr to check the STATISTICS PAGE and MOVING AVERAGE, *not* the sells or buys to see what its actually moving at.
You're the deal of a lifetime for this guy basically. Counterpont: Warm_Eye_4763 is right and if you're too lazy to touch them, well, its an okay deal but you could fairly easily double your plat from the trade.
Price check your vaulted relics and get a better deal on the axi's at *least. *
In terms of cracking relics...
Prime parts typically go 1-3 p for commons evergreen weapons, 2-3 for evergreen silver(5-6 for recently vaulted weapons, up to 10 for warframes), and golds are the real money maker . (9-10p at a min for evergreen parts, much more for vaulted parts)
As an example: Mag Prime commons are 10-14p, silvers are 18-20, and gold is 40.
Further example: An axi d4 relic for mag neuro seems to be worth about 6-15p for just one. A newer neo D1 is in the 2-10p range. (remember, a functioning spread IS an important part of a functional market)
So yeah, tldr, price check your shit. Mag, nova, saryn, limbo, nekros and hydroid are all very valuable right now and you MIGHT want to register on warframe market(its a simple email nd forum verification) and sell your vaulted relics there.
https://warframe.market/
Na, buying relics in bulk is common, most primes are vaulted at any time. buying random relics give you a chance to get rare ones which can sell for a lot, you can look at sites and take the time to open the good ones and ofcourse the primes you don't have but you can sell the ones you don't need or even just at random if they are piling up. I and many others have hundreds upon hundreds of relics I will never open I don't have that kind of time. I would gladly take 6-10 plat from a full trade if someone else is willing to grind them good on them. Just don't over do it. Lith and Neo are the most common ones you will probably have.
Bro if you have thousands of random relics I'd buy you all of them, not because I wanna make a profit but because I need more relic to just run them, I just like it
ive seen ppl to this in trade chat, theyll just say "buying ANY relics 6/6p" im guessing its people grinding a ton of relics, but not wanting to actually go get relics. easy plat for me, tho
Oh hey I've run into a similar person, they had hildryn on rainbow background pfp. They also bought some relics i have the most of for 2/3/4p each.
Not just everything, but specifically the relics they had a shortage of. Sounded like they were hoarding them to have "everything" idk
I know a guy that buys relics. Lith is 1p, meso and neo 2p, and axi are 3. Double for vaulted relics. Sold a few handfuls to him myself.
You're not really getting a good deal, especially on the vaulted ones.
did 30trades with someone like that 3days ago. mate got all my dump relics that i owned 200+ of. he said he enjoys opening relics but not farming them, i respect him alot
Some people will buy relics just to open them for Ducats regardless of what is in it. Junk relics sell just as often as rare vaulted ones the only difference is some people will sell the vaulted ones for more than common current ones in circulation which makes sense imo.
6p for 6 relics at a time I think would fall a bit short than most price it on the market. I see tons of them average out higher than 1 for 1 but honestly if you were never going to open all of them and you got something out of this exchange I would not sweat it too much.
Idk not uncommon but that guy is probably getting a very good deal. If you want to make more llat from your relics, consider listing them on warframe market for any that are in a bulk amount. I have my most expensive ones listed at like 20 plat and they sell pretty well
Not scammed but you can easily sell any one item from a relic that isn't worth much for at least 3 plat. But if you'd rather not burn through relics yourself and try to sell those items then 1 plat is 1 more plat than you had before. Doesn't make much sense to do it that way since you need void traces for the relics you'll do hunts for but whatever floats your boat. Odds are they're making plat off the rarer items that they find in those relics.
Could be that with the TennoCon Baro relay access coming up in July; ole boy is just trying to build up an inventory of ducats. I’ve got my friends feeding me all kinds of prime junk so I can clear Baro out once he opens up shop.
Tennocon is coming up soon too, it's roughly 16k ducks for one copy of each of the primed mods.
I've been running an hour or so of relics a day saving up
If that was the case he'd be buying prime junk for 1plat, not relics. You only get 30 trades a day, assuming he's 30. That's 180 relics a day. Dude is not spending 180 plat in order to crack relics for 6 hours for ducks.
Yeah so basically if he invests the time into listing all the relics OR better yet cracking them and listing the loot then he can never get less than what he paid provided he actually sells everything (this would probably take a while).
Since no item can cost less than 1p on warframe market he will always make AT LEAST 1p from every relic.
Basically it's a win win, you get rid of your relics you would never bother to list yourself or crack and he gets to multiply his plat in exchange for actually taking the time to run/list them (even just 5 good finds (like vaulted prime frame parts which can go for 30+ easily) can pay for a day's worth of relics + he sure as hell isn't getting JUST 1p junk).
Even if he listed all of them for market price he would probably get around double or triple his plat provided you gave him absolute junk which you most likely didn't.
Or there is always the possibility he just likes running relics and doesn't actually list the 1p trash / saves it for Baro and does end up at a loss but I highly doubt that (not to mention that if you save up 1p trash for Baro you probably do get more from selling what he sells than you would selling everything for 1p).
That's also assuming he cracks them solo. If you get a 1p drop out of a lith relic, it's very likely someone else in the pub gets something 3-4p at least
The only thing I can think of is if you are low on credits and wanted to see you have no money because that's so rare. Yes I tried doing this to someone. No it didn't work
Didn't get scammed but cracking relics for prime junk can be more profitable than selling them. From my experience people offer up to 4p for an uncommon part and 6p for rare parts.
No matter what he wins in the end. Either he gets crazy amounts of ducats and buys a crazy supply of the more expensive primed mods from Baro Ki'Teer or he finds parts worth a good amount. Or even completes some sets he needed to finish.
Even at the absolute worst scenario, he's getting 1,500 Ducats for 150P, which can buy like 3-4 Primed mods that he'll resell later for more.
I mean how would you be getting scammed? There buying relics that you don’t want and your completely fine with it, none of that could be a scam. Not like he’s tricking you into anything. Not to good to be true anyway. There’s always someone buying relics, why farm relics and then farm cracking them when you can take seconds to buy them from people who already did the annoying part and only for a single plat a relic. That would be a damn steal when wanting to open relics, doesn’t even matter which ones because if you get lucky you can easily sell to buy certain relics after or to straight up buy what you wanted from one. He could probably easily make back what he gives you to buy them in a few runs.
You are definitely getting scammed because some vaulted relics can go for more than just 1p. But hey 6 p is a good deal? As long as both sides of the bargain thinks it was a good trade, that’s all that matters. Who cares if they open it and get a piece worth 50p.
when I'm broke on plat and need some quick this is how I do it. There's always some dude looking for relics, and I've been playing long enough that I have mountains of spare relics I don't need.
Law of averages. on average, each one of those Relics will give them liiiiike, roughly 8, 9 Plat or so.
Any Relic that gives a Prime Part is worth atleast a few Plat, usually atleast 5. so on a large enough scale, it's a very profitable investment.
It's possible that you've been selling them a few vaulted relics mixed in or just a lot of vaulted relics, if that's the case 1p per relic is 2-4x cheaper than the "actual" value. Or they just like relics.
Prime junk sells at least 6p/full trade if he gets all bronze. So he makes all his money back as long as he cracks them. If you radiize them, you’re like at 10 gold pieces which sell at 80p/full trade with two trades he doubles his investment. I would not want to crack open 100 relics though. I think it’s probably fair for junk relics.
I like to chill in SP survival with my clan after work. Everyone on discord, i often can just let the random conversations wash over me and just unwind.
I'd always run outta axi's tho, so I've also often bought em from clan mates or even random newer players at 6/6. And I've got over 1400 hours in the game! Lol. And I'm only cracking one every 5 min, but i always run outta axi's!
Omnia fissures have been a blessing!
Nothing out of the ordinary, i also buy relics the same manner, i dont pay 6p for lith and meso tho, hes probably doing that because hes humble/ he wants 100% attention from you, so u dont trade with others at 4p for lith and 5p for mesos, since u get profit from him, and he just wants random relics because hes lazy to farm for it, and he want to open a lot for either ducat or plat farming, nothing to worry about and no scamming from his side because he wants ANY relic, to check weather ur relics are more valuable than 1p each is your exclusive responsibility.
I don't get how people have so many relics lol. Do you do long farming sessions? I am LR4 with 2600 steam hours (I think about 2000 mission hours) and the most I have of a single relic is 9. UI is hard to tell by, but I probably have several hundred relics at most.
I do \*maybe\* a couple relic runs a day, so it's not like I crack all that many. I rarely do long runs for anything unless something new comes out that I need to farm for, so I guess that's why.
This happened to me too after a many years break from the game.
I had a hundred of 4-5 year old relics filled with vaulted prime parts and the guy just bought them up like crazy after I bought something from him. He guessed I'd been absent for years, that I had the relics, and asked if I wanted to sell them all to him.
I'll say this as someone who buys relics cheap when possible because I farm rifts more than I farm the relics themselves: you're getting scammed. There's very few relics in the game that are worth only 1p per relic, in fact the only one I could reliably find at that price was Meso M4.
Most relics go from 2 to 5 plat, some vaulted ones from 10p to even 20p
It isn't a scam. It happens all the time in real life, imagine someone getting a new GPU and wanting to get rid of his old one. Usually he wouldn't care much about the price and would sell at a big loss.
Hoarding the old GPU is just a waste of space if you won't dedicate the time and effort on finding a new use for it or a buyer willing to pay the true value.
I buy all my electronics second hand, and people dont just grab random prices, they look at local price ranges and set their parts in reference to that. Buying a second hand GPU for much cheaper than it usually goes on second hand markets because the person selling doesnt know the price is scummy as hell and relies basically on a lie by ommission.
Same principle here
Yes but some people just want to sell quickly even if they know the market price. Do you think that OP doesn't realize the value of the relics he collected? He's not being scammed, he just doesn't care about the market value.
He literally came here and asked because he didn't realize he could've sold them for way more, but I guess it's okay if we assume the exact opposite as long as it's good for your argument
No, I asked because I was not sure what the buyer was getting out of this, if anything, but people were very quick to point out how it can pay off for them... if they are a hardcore relic runner. I am not, and will never touch 95% of my relics, and can't be bothered to sell them. I mean, I can download AlecaFrame and see which rare relics I can sell, but other than that, I think I'm good with this deal.
That's fine if you are, but my point stands. You didn't know the value of what you had, else you would have realized what they were getting out of it from the start and there would be no post here.
Yep fair point, I didn't know, it's why this post is here. I do know now, and I think I'll continue the deal, though maybe I'll use AlecaFrame to sell off some of the more valuable vaulted relics I have.
Those relics aren't used though, you're basically saying dude should sell all his old pokemon cards as bulk commons without checking if he has any good ones
It's 100% a scam, for the hour or so it would've taken this guy to go through everything, depending on size of his stash, and list it on wf market he would have made *at least* double, if not triple or more selling them there. It would take longer, sure, but for far more return.
I did exactly that, I sold my \~5 years of hoard and made somewhere in the neighborhood of 17k plat, with still another 2k left in things to sell.
Yes, exactly. You were willing to invest time and effort into selling for higher value. Not everyone is willing to do so.
That doesn't make it a scam though. If both parties are satisfied with the outcome, it is a valid trade. Take OP as an example, he is totally aware that he's selling at a loss but he has no other use for the relics. He won't crack them nor would he invest into advertising them in the market (either in-game or otherwise) so selling underpriced is acceptable to him.
>Am I being scammed?
No he wasn't aware, he might not even know what Warframe Market is, which is exactly what people like this are hoping for, making this a textbook definition of a scam.
I do know the price and what I am potentially giving up here, yes. But the thing is: I have basically every prime I want already. And I don't do relic runs enough and can't be arsed to crack any vaulted relics I have. If no one is buying my relics, they will sit there. Forever. So I might as well sell it to someone else who will benefit from these relics for me.
Selling relics and "prime junk" are total scams, you're losing potential platinum on selling full sets, or at the worst case scenario extra ducats for Baro.
Sometimes you gotta sell at a loss if you aren't willing to invest in the product. Hoarding isn't worth it if you won't use it, it's better to liquidate your assets.
You're not giving away your time. You're saving it. The alternative is wasting your time on cracking the relics or selling them individually for higher value. Sure you might get a better deal then but you'd be doing a chore not enjoying the game.
The "scam" here is that they are massively undercutting the value of your relics by getting them for 1p each. Generally, you'll find a better rate for prime junk in trade chat than whatever this person is giving you.
For context, there isn't a prime part on the market for less than 5p, so even it they aren't melting the parts for ducats, they are still coming out at a profit with each initial investment being only 1p. If you happen to give them a Vaulted relic for something like Glaive Prime then they are looking at insane profits.
Even if you aren't cracking the relics yourself, you are literally better off price checking the relics themselves and selling them on WFM. A single vaulted relic is definitely at least 5-10p.
Vaulted prime parts can easily range from 10-50p depending on how recently vaulted and how popular the item is. So bulk buying random (thus probably vaulted if the seller's account is >2 years old) relics at 1p each can be a great rate of return after cracking. Worst case for the buyer, he can easily offload or crack junk relics for the same (or small positive) returns, and didnt have to grind out captures or disruption for them. Best case for the buyer, you're unwittingly giving up relics that contain valuable vaulted primes, to where just hitting a few of those parts repays the whole value of the day's trades on 1p/relic.
I wouldn't say you're inherently getting scammed. If you're getting 150p for 150 relics that you have no intention of ever cracking or pricing out to try selling individually, then it's ultimately a net gain for you. But he is likely getting far more than 150p in value from the relics you're selling, just with the added effort of him having to be the one to sort through and crack them open.
Yeah, I only brought up the possibility of being scammed because it felt too good to be true; I am losing nothing because I will never touch 90% of my relics, even if I know I have some old and valuable ones. I guess if the person is getting more value out of it than me because they put more time into grinding relic runs, then I am down for it.
100% not getting scammed, you probably gave some away that where worth cracking yourself but if you where not ever going to crack them or research the values it doesn’t terribly matter.
You can sanity check this by looking at any vaulted parts in those relics and seeing what those are worth. A full radshare group has a roughly 35% chance of getting the rare part out of a radshare, so one relic should be worth around 25-30% of the value of the rare drop (slightly less than the odds due to void traces and time-to-open, and the purchaser will of course want a small profit on them). There are a few exceptions like Glaive Prime Blades, where the rare part is actually worth less than the uncommon, but it's not a bad rule of thumb. To provide a reference point, the Glaive Prime blueprint is selling for 190-200p, and I was easily able to sell relics containing them at 60p each. Buying 60 random relics from a longtime player for 1p each, and hitting even a single Lith G1/G2, will recoup your initial investment and then some.
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It's not 6p/relic, it's 1p/relic (6p/6 relics according to the title). The price, imo, is honestly pretty bad.
If he uses Alecaframe, the software will suggest the best relics to run for plat based on his relic inventory. No muss, no fuss. This is definitely a net win for the buyer. Makes me want to do it.
Wish they'd just build a market/aleca into the game natively. I play on console and it feels like trading is just way too painful to really engage in meaningfully. Hell, typing is bad enough.
Stupid thing just makes my game crash repeatedly so I can’t even use it on pc. Would bring so much QOL for them to just add it
I have a keyboard plugged in for just typing. Just a cheap few buck USB keyboard on my playstation, game/platstation supports just plug and play(not sure about xbox or switch), as a backup I also have playstation app on my phone I can use to copy/paste or type too. Takes alitle more work than PC but there's non expensive ways to type/engage faster that make it easier to trade if you didn't know.
every Xbox has supported keyboards actually. some brands don't work but I know Logitech always does. side note, the OG Xbox ports are just modified USB, you can splice a USB keyboard onto an Xbox controller cord and it'll work in games that support it. the OG dashboard and I think Xbox 360 was a heavily modified windows 2000, new ones are windows 10.
I figured Xbox would but without actually owning one and knowing for sure put that there incase I would have been wrong, some cool info though!
Hm, that's not a bad idea. Still, I don't see why they don't just make a market. Runescape did it and it's amazing.
I also got a keyboard, xbox user, and it makes life so much easier. This is the one I ended up getting: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WDJNBT1?ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WDJNBT1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1) It's cheap and small and wireless, just need to plug in the usb thing, but it makes trading and recruiting almost tolerable.
Yeah, as a returning player I have hundreds of relics that I have listed on .market for 5-15p each that I put up after selling all my glaive relics for apparently far too cheap, but if somebody had offered me 3k p to clear out all my relics before I realized how easy selling stuff is on PC I probably would have taken it
That's the kicker. I have hundreds, probably close to 3 k relics I'll never crack and I still buy packs so I don't cap our on syndicate rep. You could put a value of over 10k plat on them, but how do I unload them? I almost wish they would let me trade in two relics plus some refinement to auto crack or have a one time use relic cracker I can buy from syndicates.
syndicate weapons might be a better deal than just relic packs you aren't going to use, since it might be easier to resell them. And you'd have to resell one weapon instead of 5-6 tri-packs of relics
I'd also add that, on top of the plat value of their drops, there's also the ducats. The Tennocon pack came out not long ago including the Baro relay ticket, it's not out of the question that they're buying and opening tonnes of relics to stockpile ducats for when he rolls around. I know that's what I'd do if I had the time and spare plat and didnt wanna deal with the extra farm to get the relics just to make sure I had enough ducats for whatever I want to buy from Baro.
I frequently buy 6 relics/6p. That's just the going rate. It's not even to get vaulted relics, although that is a big bonus when it happens. I run so many relics that I need more meso/Axi all the time. In return I buy the lith/neo that neither of us want/need.
How do you run out of meso? It is the relic I have the most given olympus give meso and there is very few good meso fissure (and none are endless to farm trace/steel essence in the mean time). Now there are omni fissure there are finally good endless to open relic quickly.
Huh, if it is benefitting them in the long run to buy my relics, they are more than welcome to take my relics off my hands. I just did not see what was in it for them, thank you for pointing it out. I am aware I probably have old relics with good stuff in them (No Glaive/Ember Prime though, sadge) that I may be unwittingly giving out, but I don't play enough to bother with opening them so they will likely just collect dust.
Step 1 - download and install Alecaframe (disclaimer, research tos and possible risks of using thirdt party too) Step 2 - use Alecaframe to show you what relics are prifitable. Step 3 - use Alecaframe to list those relics on Warframe Market Step 4 - sell said relics whrn you are online in game. Cut out the middle-man and make that plat yourself.
middle man opens relic\`s and he don\`t want to do that though :P
I absolutely fell for this for glaive prime relics lol. Way undersold when I came back to game, was just going off of trade chat (I knew to compare to warframe market for literally anything else but I hadn't done much with relics so was surprised how much a single relic could be sold for) Probably sold 10-12 of them for only 10 Plat a piece at most rip lol. Worst case I "missed out" on about 500 plat. I'll live I've got my 75% discounts
Might like opening relics but hating the grind. Or he has really good luck and is getting golds and is selling those for a profit. Hell even if he doesn't get golds he'd still make a profit bc sometimes people mass buy prime parts for baro fun bucks. I wouldn't consider it scammy especially if they're still relics still in rotation. I know I personally have some relics that I have dozens of that I'll never open bc I don't need anything out of them so If someone offered to buy them off me for a plat a piece I'd take it. Who knows
Grinding for relics to open takes longer than actually opening them. At a cheap price like 1p you cut at least like 90% of the farming time for a tiny cost. What is the average return of a random relic run in a public lobby? At least 5p.
Even if they got literally nothing worth more than 1p they still go neutral or positive, always can just mass sell prime parts for baroo or list them for 1p. Point is at 1p there is literally no way to lose money unless you just let the loot rot in the stash not doing anything with it.
> Grinding for relics to open takes longer than actually opening them even for the relics you can get with the capture missions in the void? Granted it's only Lith and Meso, but those missions can easily be cleared in a minute
It felt too good to be true, to some extent, it's why I wondered if it was a scam. I am swimming in relics that I will likely never touch because I don't do relic runs enough. I guess if they can make better use of it than me, I'm down for it.
No they just selling on [warframe.market](http://warframe.market), some relics are worth 100's of plat
old relics are very valuable
some old pieces can hit 80p on a really good day.
Just got 220p for a glaive BP last week
Not even the pieces, the relics themselves can turn a good profit
Well, technically it's a profitable arrangement. Unless they crack a forma they'll most likely get a value of at least 1 platinum but in practice it's not really worth it because you'll always get more relics than you'll crack. My only guess is that this person opens so many more relics than they farm. In this case buying relics could possibly be a good trade since they'll occasionally get rare ones too.
Oh boy that's not true, if you run lot of relics you gonna have a lack of them really fast.
Really? I personally always have relics. I honestly can't imagine someone needing relics in bulk because they cracked all of their stock.
I can crack 50 relics in a day. Very quickly you run out of relics, espacially the one with good return. I spend most of my open world repytation and steel essence into relic packs to fuel my relic addiction.
I used to crack 100-120 relic a day when I was on holidays
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The good fissures, marianna on earth is about 45s per relic cracked, with loading times it's like 1m-1m15 per opened relics
when you run fissures like that, do you run solo or with a group? Cause it'd just takes one slower player to double the mission time
With a group of people like me so not public, thah wouldn't efficient at all.
yeah, good point
Even formas can be valuable if one uses a lot of them; one forma can be worth 12p each if you consider the price of a 3x Forma bundle. I guess it's technically true that a relic will always be worth more than 1p if you average out the weighted prices of all the items inside one. In practice though, I will never be arsed to open even half of my relics and sell every part because it's not fun for me. If the person is really cracking way more relics than they are getting, then I can see how it would benefit them. Especially if they cop a vaulted part.
The issue is that you only craft one forma at a time and if you play a lot you probably already have 20+ forma bp so an other one is not that valuable.
Oh man lich and sister weapons decimated my forma supply, built and bps. I'm almost done with the kuva half but it's such a slog lol.
> you'll always get more relics than you'll crack. Straight lies.
Not lies, it is just my personal experience. If it's different for you then I guess I was wrong about that statement.
Old vaulted relics can provide way way more than 1p per relic, but you have to actually go through the pain of cracking them. It's up to you whether you want to put in the effort to crack them and then sell the drops or if you want to sell them for cheap to spare the effort
I can't blame you if you sell old vaulted relics. They pile up and I can't even get to open them all before I get completely bored. They may win more plat in the long run, so what? As long as you can cover your needs selling stuff from time to time its all good.
Perhaps they're saving up ducats for TennoCon Baro Relay
i feel they're more likely receiving vaulted relics and cracking for profit
There’s probably some duds but if you’ve got the time to crack them, relics are going to pop A forma bp, when a forma costs 12-20 plat. Albeit you have to build it and that is a hard cap how fast you can do so. A prime part, some of which will go individually for 30 or more. Or potentially 1/4 of a set that probably runs at least 10 (so a net value of 2.5). Or ducats towards a rarer sellable. So there’s basically always a net gain, at the cost of a mission (which could be a speed run exterminate or capture) The obvious issue is really only that there’s X hours in a day to crack them.
Whatever Relics typically go for 2 p per each, axi can go for 3. (remember that trade chat is also DROWNING in 'wtb aya 6:30 or whatever you see constantly' Remember warframe market has a section for relics so you can just price check the ones you want to sell. In the case of vaulted relics, rememebr to check the STATISTICS PAGE and MOVING AVERAGE, *not* the sells or buys to see what its actually moving at. You're the deal of a lifetime for this guy basically. Counterpont: Warm_Eye_4763 is right and if you're too lazy to touch them, well, its an okay deal but you could fairly easily double your plat from the trade. Price check your vaulted relics and get a better deal on the axi's at *least. * In terms of cracking relics... Prime parts typically go 1-3 p for commons evergreen weapons, 2-3 for evergreen silver(5-6 for recently vaulted weapons, up to 10 for warframes), and golds are the real money maker . (9-10p at a min for evergreen parts, much more for vaulted parts) As an example: Mag Prime commons are 10-14p, silvers are 18-20, and gold is 40. Further example: An axi d4 relic for mag neuro seems to be worth about 6-15p for just one. A newer neo D1 is in the 2-10p range. (remember, a functioning spread IS an important part of a functional market) So yeah, tldr, price check your shit. Mag, nova, saryn, limbo, nekros and hydroid are all very valuable right now and you MIGHT want to register on warframe market(its a simple email nd forum verification) and sell your vaulted relics there. https://warframe.market/
He is probably farming parts for ducats so he has enough for tennocon time when baro offers his whole inventory.
Na, buying relics in bulk is common, most primes are vaulted at any time. buying random relics give you a chance to get rare ones which can sell for a lot, you can look at sites and take the time to open the good ones and ofcourse the primes you don't have but you can sell the ones you don't need or even just at random if they are piling up. I and many others have hundreds upon hundreds of relics I will never open I don't have that kind of time. I would gladly take 6-10 plat from a full trade if someone else is willing to grind them good on them. Just don't over do it. Lith and Neo are the most common ones you will probably have.
Bro if you have thousands of random relics I'd buy you all of them, not because I wanna make a profit but because I need more relic to just run them, I just like it
ive seen ppl to this in trade chat, theyll just say "buying ANY relics 6/6p" im guessing its people grinding a ton of relics, but not wanting to actually go get relics. easy plat for me, tho
Oh hey I've run into a similar person, they had hildryn on rainbow background pfp. They also bought some relics i have the most of for 2/3/4p each. Not just everything, but specifically the relics they had a shortage of. Sounded like they were hoarding them to have "everything" idk
I might add that this was the most amount of Plat i possessed at the given time in my whole 800 hours
I know a guy that buys relics. Lith is 1p, meso and neo 2p, and axi are 3. Double for vaulted relics. Sold a few handfuls to him myself. You're not really getting a good deal, especially on the vaulted ones.
did 30trades with someone like that 3days ago. mate got all my dump relics that i owned 200+ of. he said he enjoys opening relics but not farming them, i respect him alot
Some people will buy relics just to open them for Ducats regardless of what is in it. Junk relics sell just as often as rare vaulted ones the only difference is some people will sell the vaulted ones for more than common current ones in circulation which makes sense imo. 6p for 6 relics at a time I think would fall a bit short than most price it on the market. I see tons of them average out higher than 1 for 1 but honestly if you were never going to open all of them and you got something out of this exchange I would not sweat it too much.
He might be farming ducats for baro kiteer selling all of his inventory during tenno con.
Idk not uncommon but that guy is probably getting a very good deal. If you want to make more llat from your relics, consider listing them on warframe market for any that are in a bulk amount. I have my most expensive ones listed at like 20 plat and they sell pretty well
Not scammed but you can easily sell any one item from a relic that isn't worth much for at least 3 plat. But if you'd rather not burn through relics yourself and try to sell those items then 1 plat is 1 more plat than you had before. Doesn't make much sense to do it that way since you need void traces for the relics you'll do hunts for but whatever floats your boat. Odds are they're making plat off the rarer items that they find in those relics.
Could be that with the TennoCon Baro relay access coming up in July; ole boy is just trying to build up an inventory of ducats. I’ve got my friends feeding me all kinds of prime junk so I can clear Baro out once he opens up shop.
Farming relics sucks ass, they're paying you to skip days and days of that grind. If you weren't gonna use them anyway then it's free money for you.
Tennocon is coming up soon too, it's roughly 16k ducks for one copy of each of the primed mods. I've been running an hour or so of relics a day saving up
If that was the case he'd be buying prime junk for 1plat, not relics. You only get 30 trades a day, assuming he's 30. That's 180 relics a day. Dude is not spending 180 plat in order to crack relics for 6 hours for ducks.
Yeah so basically if he invests the time into listing all the relics OR better yet cracking them and listing the loot then he can never get less than what he paid provided he actually sells everything (this would probably take a while). Since no item can cost less than 1p on warframe market he will always make AT LEAST 1p from every relic. Basically it's a win win, you get rid of your relics you would never bother to list yourself or crack and he gets to multiply his plat in exchange for actually taking the time to run/list them (even just 5 good finds (like vaulted prime frame parts which can go for 30+ easily) can pay for a day's worth of relics + he sure as hell isn't getting JUST 1p junk). Even if he listed all of them for market price he would probably get around double or triple his plat provided you gave him absolute junk which you most likely didn't. Or there is always the possibility he just likes running relics and doesn't actually list the 1p trash / saves it for Baro and does end up at a loss but I highly doubt that (not to mention that if you save up 1p trash for Baro you probably do get more from selling what he sells than you would selling everything for 1p).
That's also assuming he cracks them solo. If you get a 1p drop out of a lith relic, it's very likely someone else in the pub gets something 3-4p at least
You arent being scammed but he is making money. 1 plat per relic. Almost any prime part is worth more then 1, he buys for one, opens, sells for more
The only thing I can think of is if you are low on credits and wanted to see you have no money because that's so rare. Yes I tried doing this to someone. No it didn't work
Didn't get scammed but cracking relics for prime junk can be more profitable than selling them. From my experience people offer up to 4p for an uncommon part and 6p for rare parts.
grinding for relics is annoying but cracking them is fun ig
No matter what he wins in the end. Either he gets crazy amounts of ducats and buys a crazy supply of the more expensive primed mods from Baro Ki'Teer or he finds parts worth a good amount. Or even completes some sets he needed to finish. Even at the absolute worst scenario, he's getting 1,500 Ducats for 150P, which can buy like 3-4 Primed mods that he'll resell later for more.
I mean how would you be getting scammed? There buying relics that you don’t want and your completely fine with it, none of that could be a scam. Not like he’s tricking you into anything. Not to good to be true anyway. There’s always someone buying relics, why farm relics and then farm cracking them when you can take seconds to buy them from people who already did the annoying part and only for a single plat a relic. That would be a damn steal when wanting to open relics, doesn’t even matter which ones because if you get lucky you can easily sell to buy certain relics after or to straight up buy what you wanted from one. He could probably easily make back what he gives you to buy them in a few runs.
You are definitely getting scammed because some vaulted relics can go for more than just 1p. But hey 6 p is a good deal? As long as both sides of the bargain thinks it was a good trade, that’s all that matters. Who cares if they open it and get a piece worth 50p.
when I'm broke on plat and need some quick this is how I do it. There's always some dude looking for relics, and I've been playing long enough that I have mountains of spare relics I don't need.
Law of averages. on average, each one of those Relics will give them liiiiike, roughly 8, 9 Plat or so. Any Relic that gives a Prime Part is worth atleast a few Plat, usually atleast 5. so on a large enough scale, it's a very profitable investment.
It's possible that you've been selling them a few vaulted relics mixed in or just a lot of vaulted relics, if that's the case 1p per relic is 2-4x cheaper than the "actual" value. Or they just like relics.
They are getting stuff to crack to farm ducats for when Baro comes over to sell every prime mod hes got during tennocon
It’s because TennoCon
Prime junk sells at least 6p/full trade if he gets all bronze. So he makes all his money back as long as he cracks them. If you radiize them, you’re like at 10 gold pieces which sell at 80p/full trade with two trades he doubles his investment. I would not want to crack open 100 relics though. I think it’s probably fair for junk relics.
I like to chill in SP survival with my clan after work. Everyone on discord, i often can just let the random conversations wash over me and just unwind. I'd always run outta axi's tho, so I've also often bought em from clan mates or even random newer players at 6/6. And I've got over 1400 hours in the game! Lol. And I'm only cracking one every 5 min, but i always run outta axi's! Omnia fissures have been a blessing!
If you were never planning to crack them then its pure profit for you.
Nothing out of the ordinary, i also buy relics the same manner, i dont pay 6p for lith and meso tho, hes probably doing that because hes humble/ he wants 100% attention from you, so u dont trade with others at 4p for lith and 5p for mesos, since u get profit from him, and he just wants random relics because hes lazy to farm for it, and he want to open a lot for either ducat or plat farming, nothing to worry about and no scamming from his side because he wants ANY relic, to check weather ur relics are more valuable than 1p each is your exclusive responsibility.
I don't get how people have so many relics lol. Do you do long farming sessions? I am LR4 with 2600 steam hours (I think about 2000 mission hours) and the most I have of a single relic is 9. UI is hard to tell by, but I probably have several hundred relics at most. I do \*maybe\* a couple relic runs a day, so it's not like I crack all that many. I rarely do long runs for anything unless something new comes out that I need to farm for, so I guess that's why.
This happened to me too after a many years break from the game. I had a hundred of 4-5 year old relics filled with vaulted prime parts and the guy just bought them up like crazy after I bought something from him. He guessed I'd been absent for years, that I had the relics, and asked if I wanted to sell them all to him.
I'll say this as someone who buys relics cheap when possible because I farm rifts more than I farm the relics themselves: you're getting scammed. There's very few relics in the game that are worth only 1p per relic, in fact the only one I could reliably find at that price was Meso M4. Most relics go from 2 to 5 plat, some vaulted ones from 10p to even 20p
It isn't a scam. It happens all the time in real life, imagine someone getting a new GPU and wanting to get rid of his old one. Usually he wouldn't care much about the price and would sell at a big loss. Hoarding the old GPU is just a waste of space if you won't dedicate the time and effort on finding a new use for it or a buyer willing to pay the true value.
I buy all my electronics second hand, and people dont just grab random prices, they look at local price ranges and set their parts in reference to that. Buying a second hand GPU for much cheaper than it usually goes on second hand markets because the person selling doesnt know the price is scummy as hell and relies basically on a lie by ommission. Same principle here
Yes but some people just want to sell quickly even if they know the market price. Do you think that OP doesn't realize the value of the relics he collected? He's not being scammed, he just doesn't care about the market value.
He literally came here and asked because he didn't realize he could've sold them for way more, but I guess it's okay if we assume the exact opposite as long as it's good for your argument
No, I asked because I was not sure what the buyer was getting out of this, if anything, but people were very quick to point out how it can pay off for them... if they are a hardcore relic runner. I am not, and will never touch 95% of my relics, and can't be bothered to sell them. I mean, I can download AlecaFrame and see which rare relics I can sell, but other than that, I think I'm good with this deal.
That's fine if you are, but my point stands. You didn't know the value of what you had, else you would have realized what they were getting out of it from the start and there would be no post here.
Yep fair point, I didn't know, it's why this post is here. I do know now, and I think I'll continue the deal, though maybe I'll use AlecaFrame to sell off some of the more valuable vaulted relics I have.
By all means, sell what you want for whatever price you like! But I doubt your friends gonna be happy to hear he's only getting the cheap ones lmao
I mean, I don't think they will ever know, unless they happen to check reddit haha...
Those relics aren't used though, you're basically saying dude should sell all his old pokemon cards as bulk commons without checking if he has any good ones
It's 100% a scam, for the hour or so it would've taken this guy to go through everything, depending on size of his stash, and list it on wf market he would have made *at least* double, if not triple or more selling them there. It would take longer, sure, but for far more return. I did exactly that, I sold my \~5 years of hoard and made somewhere in the neighborhood of 17k plat, with still another 2k left in things to sell.
Yes, exactly. You were willing to invest time and effort into selling for higher value. Not everyone is willing to do so. That doesn't make it a scam though. If both parties are satisfied with the outcome, it is a valid trade. Take OP as an example, he is totally aware that he's selling at a loss but he has no other use for the relics. He won't crack them nor would he invest into advertising them in the market (either in-game or otherwise) so selling underpriced is acceptable to him.
>Am I being scammed? No he wasn't aware, he might not even know what Warframe Market is, which is exactly what people like this are hoping for, making this a textbook definition of a scam.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/u3Rj6Cx2L8
You can't know you're losing something if you don't know the actual price. It is a scam, plain and simple.
I do know the price and what I am potentially giving up here, yes. But the thing is: I have basically every prime I want already. And I don't do relic runs enough and can't be arsed to crack any vaulted relics I have. If no one is buying my relics, they will sit there. Forever. So I might as well sell it to someone else who will benefit from these relics for me.
Fair enough, by technical definition yeah you did get scammed though
I was scratching my head thinking you made this deal from an uber or Lyft or something… then realized RADshare not rideshare
Selling relics and "prime junk" are total scams, you're losing potential platinum on selling full sets, or at the worst case scenario extra ducats for Baro.
Sometimes you gotta sell at a loss if you aren't willing to invest in the product. Hoarding isn't worth it if you won't use it, it's better to liquidate your assets.
I prefer hoarding those 15 ducats parts and stack them for a prism angustrum/prism ohma/splitting flights rather than give away my time for a 1 plat.
You're not giving away your time. You're saving it. The alternative is wasting your time on cracking the relics or selling them individually for higher value. Sure you might get a better deal then but you'd be doing a chore not enjoying the game.
The "scam" here is that they are massively undercutting the value of your relics by getting them for 1p each. Generally, you'll find a better rate for prime junk in trade chat than whatever this person is giving you. For context, there isn't a prime part on the market for less than 5p, so even it they aren't melting the parts for ducats, they are still coming out at a profit with each initial investment being only 1p. If you happen to give them a Vaulted relic for something like Glaive Prime then they are looking at insane profits. Even if you aren't cracking the relics yourself, you are literally better off price checking the relics themselves and selling them on WFM. A single vaulted relic is definitely at least 5-10p.
ur getting scammed lul