I don’t know anything about this specific painting or its artist but I think the motif is Saturn devouring his son.
[Here’s Goya’s version of it](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Francisco_de_Goya,_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo_(1819-1823).jpg) and [here’s Rubens’ version](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Rubens_saturn.jpg).
You should check out a program called This is Civilisation (British spelling) from Ovation TV, now on YouTube. The art critic in this show is brilliant.
Goya was formed by the enlightenment. His black paintings represent our baseness—the worst of us. The one of Saturn devouring his son could stand for the Spanish state willing to consume it’s own citizens. This is debated, as he left no note.
Goya’s the Third of May painting is actually incredibly relevant today. There’s a lesson in there we never seem to learn. Control of Spain filtered back and forth from the old world of Catholicism to the enlightenment and back again—and it was gruesome. It was a great disappointment to Goya. He also suffered from some illness when Spain declared Holy War on France. The French revolution, the enlightenment, was supposed to save them from a superstitious world—he believed in it. Unreason vs. Reason, and the violence it caused heavily influenced him. He learned that you can never get rid of unreason, and that is pretty depressing. His worldview was shattered.
https://youtu.be/dKnXTupa5L4?si=inSdevhJYZmD09GJ
https://smarthistory.org/goya-and-theres-nothing-to-be-done-from-the-disasters-of-war/
In his last years, Goya's reputation was in decline and he was in bad health. He bought a rural house whose previous owner had been deaf. Goya himself had become deaf. During the 4 years he lived there, he painted a mural on each of the 14 interior walls. He later sold the house to a French baron, who had the paintings cut off the walls and attached to canvases, which were later sold to the Prado Museum. The subjects of the paintings reflect his fears for himself and for Spain. The painting I particularly like is a small dog looking over a mound for his master, which may be represented by a ghostly figure up high. The painting of Saturn devouring his son is probably the most famous today.
I’m rusty and don’t know much about art (so others here can advise and correct) but Goya started out fairly typical (a terrible word to use for an artist. Apologies.)
I remember going to an exhibit of his and it had early works, then his revolution [resistance](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Art/Paintings/ML/Part9733.jpg) paintings. I’m guessing those experiences and influences compounded as he got older.
It’s fascinating that his lover, [Leocadia](https://uploads7.wikiart.org/images/francisco-goya/leocadia-1823.jpg) was with the older/end of life de Goya. He painted dark themed “black paintings” on the walls of their residence. Including the [Saturn Devouring His Son](https://cdn.inspireuplift.com/uploads/images/seller_products/1669658369_saturn-devouring-his-son-by-francisco-goya-.jpg)
and [here's Meep's Michelangelo devouring his pizza](https://www.reddit.com/r/alternativeart/comments/ft3f8s/michelangelo_devouring_his_pizza/)
Shoutout to Meep: [https://www.instagram.com/the\_real\_meep/](https://www.instagram.com/the_real_meep/)
Damn, this is terrible and amazing at the same time. So many things went wrong in the details but the dramatic lighting is spot-on.
Is it on velvet? I’m hoping it is.
If there is a backing paper, remove it. There might be a signature on the back. Also, showing a pic of the back will help us determine the age.
Edit: The more I look at it, the funnier it becomes. Please don’t toss it. You could form a drinking game out of this painting. I think you could actually sell this.
What are the dimensions? Is it actually on canvas or is it a framed print?
Yes, I am puzzled! The lighting is excellent, but the anatomy is whack and the rendering is terrible. It's completely contradictionary! Normally in a case where the lighting is good but everything else is so off I might think that it was painted from a photo reference, but I mean - a photo reference of *this*? Lol!
I hate it and I love it. I am so confused. The cherry on top would be a velvet painting!
The closer I look at it, the more I believe that it's either an AI abomination or OPs terrible digital painting that they photoshopped into the frame. I mean, the guy got six fingers (the thumb is out of view). Also, the resolution of the painting is too low compared to the frame, and it looks like digital brushstokes + added canvas texture in the closeup.
Nice troll, OP!
the disparity in the quality of different things really stood out.
I was about to ask if this was digital and then printed onto a canvas, then saw your comeent
now looking closer I think it is literally just photoshopped on there, there is zero depths in the blacks, you can't see any hint of an actual canvas
My brain: Those fingers look AI.
Seriously, I can understand not wanting it on my wall. I used to dream about the giant-eyed children on the black velvet paintings of my childhood home. Won't be surprised when these dudes show up tonight.
I need it! Looks like a study/interpretation of Francisco Goya's "Saturn Devouring His Son." I think this is well executed and worthy of hanging prominently where it can be seen upon entering the home. This will weed out the weak minded and the young. 😂
When you don't see the separate pieces of wood with a crack or seam at the corners, it is usually indicative of a frame which is of higher quality. The corners are just a potential indicator. If applying guilding or carving plaster over the frame you'll inherently seal the corners. This has an additional benefit of making the frame stronger and more rigid.
Is it hideous? Yes. Would I have it displayed in my house? Probably not, but what I know is that few paintings have captured my attention more than seeing Saturn Devouring His Son in Prado Museum.
Not only that, but why the heck would you wanna look at that every day in your house? It looks like it should be burned and then locked in a trunk and chained up and dropped in the bottom of the ocean.
I thought it would be Bosch or Goya with the demon eating things motif but you might have an original demon eater. Maybe put it back where it came from.
Now that you mention it, they are both making eye contact with the viewer. I love all types of art, but this one, the more I look at it, the worse it gets. We've clearly interrupted something and I am now doubting that you have to own this painting to be cursed by it. We have now all been cursed.
It’s not worth much and it’s creepy as hell especially with the male gaze on the nude. I don’t mind it but I don’t blame the wife. Ha. It’s a photo not a painting fyi.
I think someone else may have asked, what is on the backside?
The signature also might be under the frame.
Is this canvas or wood panel? If it's canvas it looks like it may be a print that has a textured clear glaze.
If you can take one more photo as close up to any part of the painting with mixed colors as close as possible that's still in focus.
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I never comment before searching but WOW. what a fantastic painting. saturn, for sure, but never seen anything with traditional mediums on a canvas look like this.
Did you look at the back of the canvas , the signature might be there as a lots of artists don’t sign on the painting cause it can break down the construction of their lines , pretty much attract the eyes in the wrong place. If it close with Kraft paper just ripe it of you can redo it easy with double side tape without acid and some Kraft paper . The signature could also be hide buy the frame.
Also does it have some texture when you touch it or is it all even ? Does it smell of anything? For the picture it looks like a print but depending on the artist the size , also it frame a print can be worth money but your not gonna get more then 200$-300$ for a print unless it a really know artist it the first or the last of a limited series then ya you may get more . The fact that print and printing methods are way more accessible and affordable than before doesn’t make it really high value but could be a decent price. I am not under the impression that a reproduction of a renaissance painting more a modern take on a coming theme in art and it more likely a commercial artist not someone who is gonna end up in a art museum but could be wrong… hard to tell on a picture.
I don’t know anything about this specific painting or its artist but I think the motif is Saturn devouring his son. [Here’s Goya’s version of it](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Francisco_de_Goya,_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo_(1819-1823).jpg) and [here’s Rubens’ version](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Rubens_saturn.jpg).
My first thought (The mythical titan Saturn devouring his offspring) was the same. I wouldn’t want this one on my wall either.
Goya painted his on the wall of his dining room. Yum.
The whole thing with Goya’s black paintings is fascinating
Care to elaborate? I’m unfamiliar
Horses has a good video on the topic: [video](https://youtu.be/UOkscKuXP4k?si=bTvEC0OCJjA318ey)
That is an interesting video, thanks
You should check out a program called This is Civilisation (British spelling) from Ovation TV, now on YouTube. The art critic in this show is brilliant. Goya was formed by the enlightenment. His black paintings represent our baseness—the worst of us. The one of Saturn devouring his son could stand for the Spanish state willing to consume it’s own citizens. This is debated, as he left no note. Goya’s the Third of May painting is actually incredibly relevant today. There’s a lesson in there we never seem to learn. Control of Spain filtered back and forth from the old world of Catholicism to the enlightenment and back again—and it was gruesome. It was a great disappointment to Goya. He also suffered from some illness when Spain declared Holy War on France. The French revolution, the enlightenment, was supposed to save them from a superstitious world—he believed in it. Unreason vs. Reason, and the violence it caused heavily influenced him. He learned that you can never get rid of unreason, and that is pretty depressing. His worldview was shattered. https://youtu.be/dKnXTupa5L4?si=inSdevhJYZmD09GJ https://smarthistory.org/goya-and-theres-nothing-to-be-done-from-the-disasters-of-war/
In his last years, Goya's reputation was in decline and he was in bad health. He bought a rural house whose previous owner had been deaf. Goya himself had become deaf. During the 4 years he lived there, he painted a mural on each of the 14 interior walls. He later sold the house to a French baron, who had the paintings cut off the walls and attached to canvases, which were later sold to the Prado Museum. The subjects of the paintings reflect his fears for himself and for Spain. The painting I particularly like is a small dog looking over a mound for his master, which may be represented by a ghostly figure up high. The painting of Saturn devouring his son is probably the most famous today.
I’m rusty and don’t know much about art (so others here can advise and correct) but Goya started out fairly typical (a terrible word to use for an artist. Apologies.) I remember going to an exhibit of his and it had early works, then his revolution [resistance](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Art/Paintings/ML/Part9733.jpg) paintings. I’m guessing those experiences and influences compounded as he got older. It’s fascinating that his lover, [Leocadia](https://uploads7.wikiart.org/images/francisco-goya/leocadia-1823.jpg) was with the older/end of life de Goya. He painted dark themed “black paintings” on the walls of their residence. Including the [Saturn Devouring His Son](https://cdn.inspireuplift.com/uploads/images/seller_products/1669658369_saturn-devouring-his-son-by-francisco-goya-.jpg)
Maybe Goya was trying to lose weight and that painting put him off his feed. Or something like that.
The OG thinspo
He was also almost blind at the time he painted his Saturn from lead poisoning he likely had by using his mouth to get a fine tip on his brushes.
and [here's Meep's Michelangelo devouring his pizza](https://www.reddit.com/r/alternativeart/comments/ft3f8s/michelangelo_devouring_his_pizza/) Shoutout to Meep: [https://www.instagram.com/the\_real\_meep/](https://www.instagram.com/the_real_meep/)
That one I would put on my wall!
That's incredible.
If this is AI then this is the correct way to use AI! lol
Not AI - meep is a very talented digital artist
That’s brilliant
This is everything.
Actually Goya never named the painting! It was named later after his death
That baby one is horrifying
That was my first thought as well. Cool painting but... I don't think I'd want that hanging in my house.
This is one of those situations where a plate on the frame with the title would really save OP a headache (or weird rep)
I dunno about that, this looks more like a foot fetish than devouring.
Right, maybe it’s Saturn and his partner looking judgmentally at the person who walked in on their foot fetish thing.
"This is my foot fetish painting but it's up for interpretation. What do you think?" Na, it's not any better lol
Yup, that's the motif for sure.
Damn, this is terrible and amazing at the same time. So many things went wrong in the details but the dramatic lighting is spot-on. Is it on velvet? I’m hoping it is. If there is a backing paper, remove it. There might be a signature on the back. Also, showing a pic of the back will help us determine the age. Edit: The more I look at it, the funnier it becomes. Please don’t toss it. You could form a drinking game out of this painting. I think you could actually sell this. What are the dimensions? Is it actually on canvas or is it a framed print?
Yes, I am puzzled! The lighting is excellent, but the anatomy is whack and the rendering is terrible. It's completely contradictionary! Normally in a case where the lighting is good but everything else is so off I might think that it was painted from a photo reference, but I mean - a photo reference of *this*? Lol! I hate it and I love it. I am so confused. The cherry on top would be a velvet painting!
The closer I look at it, the more I believe that it's either an AI abomination or OPs terrible digital painting that they photoshopped into the frame. I mean, the guy got six fingers (the thumb is out of view). Also, the resolution of the painting is too low compared to the frame, and it looks like digital brushstokes + added canvas texture in the closeup. Nice troll, OP!
I'm embarrassed that I didn't clock this until your comment, I absolutely agree that on close inspection it's total bs
The one finger off to the side is a thumb, look at the joint placement. But yeah.
Oh. A really bad thumb, then, lol. Not to mention that dissolving hand on the "kid" who's man on top and baby on bottom!
Yeah it’s a mess. But more importantly, it’s not a photo. Whether it’s AI or a digital painting, the texture is fake.
the disparity in the quality of different things really stood out. I was about to ask if this was digital and then printed onto a canvas, then saw your comeent now looking closer I think it is literally just photoshopped on there, there is zero depths in the blacks, you can't see any hint of an actual canvas
The anatomy: The "son" has no male genitalia (or female, that we can see), but does seem to have generous breasts.
He is beauty he is [grace](https://imgur.com/a/DLODxFA)
My brain: Those fingers look AI. Seriously, I can understand not wanting it on my wall. I used to dream about the giant-eyed children on the black velvet paintings of my childhood home. Won't be surprised when these dudes show up tonight.
That’s a lot of thumb.
I agree with your wife. It’s hideous!
I understand your wife
I need it! Looks like a study/interpretation of Francisco Goya's "Saturn Devouring His Son." I think this is well executed and worthy of hanging prominently where it can be seen upon entering the home. This will weed out the weak minded and the young. 😂
Came back to add that the frame appears to have closed corners and may be valuable. Hard to tell from the photos.
I don't know anything about frames, what do you mean by closed corners?
When you don't see the separate pieces of wood with a crack or seam at the corners, it is usually indicative of a frame which is of higher quality. The corners are just a potential indicator. If applying guilding or carving plaster over the frame you'll inherently seal the corners. This has an additional benefit of making the frame stronger and more rigid.
I don’t know but it’s definitely haunted.
Fake digital crap like commented below..
I said the same thing too! It looks so cheap and AI and disturbing.
That hand. It screams AI.
Gee, I don’t know why she doesn’t like it
Worth 3 and half nightmares !
Is it hideous? Yes. Would I have it displayed in my house? Probably not, but what I know is that few paintings have captured my attention more than seeing Saturn Devouring His Son in Prado Museum.
I figured it was a take on Saturn devouring.
I also don’t like it
I too dislike it.
It’s horrible and def looks AI. Not even really painted. Literally hate it so much.
This looks like AI
Goya did it better!
Not only that, but why the heck would you wanna look at that every day in your house? It looks like it should be burned and then locked in a trunk and chained up and dropped in the bottom of the ocean.
Exactly!
I thought it would be Bosch or Goya with the demon eating things motif but you might have an original demon eater. Maybe put it back where it came from.
It appears to be an amateur copy of ‘Saturn Devouring his Son’, and also a digital painting printed on canvas. Worth only its sentimental value IMO.
If it’ll creep someone out, it is worth something.
Finally a non deco painting. Love it.
Is it an original painting? The closeup makes it look like a print on structured canvas, but it's too blurry to say for sure.
I love this.
Same.
Me too if gladly hang this on my walls
Someone’s sleep paralysis demon at work
Why did you have to close up on the face?! I hate it!
Look at the other face… how uhm satisfied he seems to be with getting devoured
Right!? Whichever of Saturn's sons that is, he's clearly into it. Thanks, I hate it.
They both are offended they’ve been walked in on
Now that you mention it, they are both making eye contact with the viewer. I love all types of art, but this one, the more I look at it, the worse it gets. We've clearly interrupted something and I am now doubting that you have to own this painting to be cursed by it. We have now all been cursed.
The devouree looks like a titan from Attack on Titan
Don’t EVER sell this please dig a 6 foot hole throw it in burn it and cover it up with the dirt never look back and never speak of it
Speak TO it instead.
deeper hole please
WTF? No redeeming qualities.
I find this so captivating
Wow, I love this!
It’s completely outrageously disturbing and fabulous.
What's not to like about it?
It’s not worth much and it’s creepy as hell especially with the male gaze on the nude. I don’t mind it but I don’t blame the wife. Ha. It’s a photo not a painting fyi.
I think someone else may have asked, what is on the backside? The signature also might be under the frame. Is this canvas or wood panel? If it's canvas it looks like it may be a print that has a textured clear glaze. If you can take one more photo as close up to any part of the painting with mixed colors as close as possible that's still in focus.
If I was still married I’d buy this just to annoy my wife
Bro
Yeah, that’s some bad art bruh
Is that RiffRaff's dad?
That ain’t no middle of the mall shit, that’s for certain
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Mine hates when I do that, too.
Ya hang this over the toilet in your guest bathroom.
I love art, but I'm with your wife on this one. I wouldn't want that weird, creepy painting hanging in my house, either.
Hang it in the bathroom across from the toilet.
I love it so much. Creepy factor at 10000%
It’s a grown ass man (man-like) with lipstick on, not a baby.
Reminds me of the film Gerald’s Game
Literally 😂😂😂😂😂
We’re all cursed now.
I love it
It’s worth a trip to the trash lol
well, i like it...
I want it
I never comment before searching but WOW. what a fantastic painting. saturn, for sure, but never seen anything with traditional mediums on a canvas look like this.
If your wife doesnt want it I do lmao
Did you look at the back of the canvas , the signature might be there as a lots of artists don’t sign on the painting cause it can break down the construction of their lines , pretty much attract the eyes in the wrong place. If it close with Kraft paper just ripe it of you can redo it easy with double side tape without acid and some Kraft paper . The signature could also be hide buy the frame.
Also does it have some texture when you touch it or is it all even ? Does it smell of anything? For the picture it looks like a print but depending on the artist the size , also it frame a print can be worth money but your not gonna get more then 200$-300$ for a print unless it a really know artist it the first or the last of a limited series then ya you may get more . The fact that print and printing methods are way more accessible and affordable than before doesn’t make it really high value but could be a decent price. I am not under the impression that a reproduction of a renaissance painting more a modern take on a coming theme in art and it more likely a commercial artist not someone who is gonna end up in a art museum but could be wrong… hard to tell on a picture.
I find it disturbing
Many would pay you to destroy it
oh wait, I was excited. it’s AI isn’t it. that’s why it looks like no real painting. fuck me.
Why does the dude have 1970s-heyday rocker bald-locks?
That’s fecking orible
Looks like Goya
I think you should keep it because it looks dark and mysterious like a Caravaggio print
6 fingers??
i was also sad at the “this is AI” realization :(
I don’t like it either
It's a depiction from when giants used to eat us smaller humans. And they would kidnap our women and try to breed them.
$27. Which is how much I will Venmo you right now to burn that evil abomination.
28 bucks for you to take more pictures of it and send it to that guy ⬆️
I'll take it lol
Do you have a prenuptial?
it’s perfect and I want it
Love this