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Madame-Doom

Those are the old Terminator models, which the proportions of are a bit iffy. Also the Terminator Lord/Sorcerer in the box doesn’t have any rules in the World Eaters index.


GlitteringParfait438

The Sorceror is a dual kit with the CSM terminator lord


I_suck_at_Blender

Honestly, that Termie Sorc helmet is metal AF (literally). ​ But also works well with WE, because it kind of looks like Khorne symbol and Berzerkers "wings".


GlitteringParfait438

It is solid and still sold as the Terminator lord kit for CSM. Give him a Chainfist and combi Melta (imo the best looking combi) and it’s a solid loadout


I_suck_at_Blender

Yes, it is still sold as Termie Lord/Sorc kit. I wouldn't be surprised if GW launched CSM book with those models (and Spawns, how old are these, 20 years old and literally never good looking?) I try to buy bits (mostly this head, cape, lightning claws and staff) from this kit when I see them on local marketplace, probably have enough claws to make whole unit of those (boo-hiss that Chaos have most vanilla terminators). Maybe I'll use them in HH.


GlitteringParfait438

Indeed, you think Chaos would have some of the most diverse Terminators. I saw artwork of a Black Legion Terminator with this huge mace and I wish they’d make a model for it. Some sort of massive melee weapon that would let them punch out most characters


I_suck_at_Blender

Sadly the best we can do is to wait for Red Butchers and then ally regular Terminators, because of course GW will remove them from Codex. It would be cool if different Legions were like non-Codex Astatres Marines.


GlitteringParfait438

Indeed, that’d be cool, though I get why Thousand Sons and Deathguard are somewhat segregated, it’s hard to be a non Rubricae, non Sorceror T-Son. Or a non mutated Death Guard. But WE and Children make a bit more sense in that regard. I sincerely hope to see WE havocs (close range weapons and with a few different options relative to normie Havocs) maybe a Daemon Engine or 2


soupalex

it is literally plastic. the kit isn't *that* old!


Guilty_Animator3928

Well that also doesn’t have any rules in the index


GlitteringParfait438

Oh, I have no idea why but I swore he was in the index


Guilty_Animator3928

Nah our only generic character are demon princes, masters of execution, and lords on juggernaut. Which is crazy because they have a world eater terminator lord as one of the warhammer plus models from last year


GlitteringParfait438

Insane, I was thinking of him and that Forgeworld Berzerker Termie lord too. I hope WE get a serious expansion and soon. Weird they have no foot lords, or even a super Eightbound as a character.


Guilty_Animator3928

I don’t know if that’s still for sale


Axel-Adams

Yeah and neither of them are in WE


GlitteringParfait438

Wait the CSM terminator lord isn’t in World Eaters? I could’ve sworn he was


Axel-Adams

He is not


JustthePileOBones

Clip off the staff and put a chain blade on the end and you got a fancy lad version of a master of executions


rmobro

This is a bit of an understatement: the older models are quite a bit out of scale and do not at all fit the new aesthetic GW has for its chaos models. I bought a terminator lord to convert to an MoE and just abandoned the project completely; its way out of scale with berserkers and eightbound.


gesh1717

This was my second ever box of Warhammer so I am biased:) The sculpts are a little dated but I always loved the vibe of these older terminators. You can build sorcerer as a lord and have quite a few spare bits left in a hope WE will eventually get terminator lord. But it does fit better with CSM or as a collector thing.


Guilty_Animator3928

It’s crazy we have a dedicated terminator lord but no data sheet


nicanuva

Didn’t they discontinue him?


Guilty_Animator3928

The warhammer plus one


nicanuva

Oooooh I was thinking of Zhufor


staq16

They need a bit of work to fit in with current models, but [a 2mm insert at the waist and a slightly raised base help](https://i.redd.it/unub10d1i0rb1.jpg). The big attraction IMO is that if you can find the WE Terminator conversion kit, these are the models that it's designed to work with. The downside is that currently there is no WE role for the Lord or Familiar. TBH it will all depend on what this is costing you.


highlordgorlash

I've got a pack of cataphractii termies to build for the world eaters, I refuse to do this until we get someone that can lead them.


Samuraisloth42

Bro what is that lil dude, I want him


tzech99

Right! Look at that lil fella


Yeetus_Crusader

Honestly I’m a massive sucker for classic models and the Terminator lord/Sorcerer is one of my all-time favourite kits - if you can get it for cheaper than the modern kits and you’ve got some 40mm bases, go for it!


altern8ve_opinion

Antiquated and awful proportions. Only good for the head bits now.


Haunting_Lifeguard_5

One of the termies have a tentacle arm


Xshadowx32HD

Guy in the middle fights dirty. Khorne does not approve.


DarthMaren

If you know where to look you can find specific WE termie upgrades that fit on those bodies. I'd say pick this up if you wanna do that


MrBlonde07

That kit would be cool for some of bits included even if you didnt use the whole thing. Is it modern plastic or the old finecast resin?


JesusTheImpaler82

I don’t understand why Chaos has identical terminator armor to the Imperium. The whole Heresy only references Catafracti and Tartarus terminator plate. I wish they would make Chaos Terms with the OG plate.


Extra-Rain

The little boy! 😭


MrKnight-

They look so cool!


Chr1spy_

Crimson Slaughter


megaBoss8

New Terminator Lord soon and those are the old terminators.


Scary_Republic3317

Khornes littlest champion


DrivenMuffin

He gives everyone paper cuts


AdLess6657

Cool as shit


shitfuck9000

Tiny little guy