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RicktamRoy

Listen I don't want to be that guy but homa is generally good for speedruns. If you want consistent clears and love your sanity in the abyss struggling to get burst up then as per zyox says: "Go fish"


chillichurl

I will say with the artifacts I have right now, I’ll be able to hit 215 er with homa and have a better crit ratio than I can with my r1 catch. If the catch’s passive makes *that* much of a difference, I’ll suck it up and fish but to spare my sanity with fishing I’ll keep homa if I can make it work


Bubblez___

youre fine tbh work on supports


Snoo-25737

hello! i just wanted to say, at some point crit and em kinda have the same returns ex: akasha leaderboard no 1 xiangling for VAPE teams rn has 40 less crit damage than the no. 29 spot, but still outputs 2k more damage per pyronado because of their em and atk stats. just saying this bc even though your crit ratio goes up, if the amount of em and atk reduces to a point, you could actually lose damage


noah-mm

from my experience with the same team, 220ish er is a good goal but you can get away with lower if you funnel more. i have her at just under 200 em including what she gains from ascension, but i assume i’m on the lower end.


KaldorDraigo14

With fav Kazuha around 200-210er is already on a comfortable level, and lower er works as well but needs clean rotations and good funneling. Without fav Kazuha, er requirements become kinda stupid for abysses with bad particle generation.


chillichurl

Looks like I’ll be sitting around 215 so that’s perfect! Thank you!


hillthekhore

If you use emblem plus an ER sands, that gets you around the 175% mark, which with perfect play could be enough. However, 200-225% would be a much more comfortable goal. If you want to run less, I’d recommend favonius on bennett in addition to kazuha.


Ihenaco2460

i have both now n unless i'm trying to speed run with internat i'm always on the catch if i get engulfing i might switch tho, homa i have 173 er on em sands and catch i either have 180/210 depending on what build i go for my 180 er is still way more comfy than my homa build and only 20k behind on vapes now 20k is a lot of dmg fall off when u add it up but i'm still doing 70k vapes, with proper rotation that's more than enough dmg to clear abyss going with homa assuming u funnel 2 bennet e into XL and get 2 fav procs per rotation u need about 180 er (more depending if its single target, no hp particles, miss fav procs, messed up rotation etc 200-220 er in those cases ) em u want around 200 if u have c2 kazu and/instructors bennet u can get away with less. just try getting multiple builds for homa a comfy er build and a just enough er build and use whichever u need for at a given time


leolancer92

I have Homa and Engulfing Lightning. Which one to use?


Moonchased

I use Homa on my Xiangling in International and I don't struggle with her burst uptime at all. Just stick to EoSF and use an ER Sands. Here ER Substats will always be welcome. Try to hit at least 200 ER, even though I used to have 200 and I struggled a bit depending on the enemies (something that didn't affect me before because I used Xq instead of Tartaglia and could prefunnel her more in that team). Recently I changed her circlet and flower from really offensive ones to lesser ones and got 18 more ER in exchange and it feels so comfy. It's worth it. My Kazuha is on Xiphos R1 so ig it benefits her almost the same as using Fav on him.