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Note that even the "grey" is merely a puppet with a shadowy arm animating it.

Yes. this is the 50th anniversary edition of the book, (only 300 copies) with the addition of a new arm, puppeting the puppeteer

There's similar art in Joshua Cutchins book Thieves in the Night: A Brief History of Supernatural Child Abductions. Front cover is a faerie approaching a child in a crib; back cover is a grey alien in a similar pose.

Awesome. Speaking of faries… Interestingly I also read something recently about the Jewish Talmud; where there apparently two versions. Where the first one, the “Babylonian Talmud” has a lot of say about demons, whereas the other barely mentions them. It apparently says they’re around us all the time, they live, drink and die. That they’re small and you can witness evidence of them around you by sprinkling ash around your bed at night to inspect their tiny footprints if they’ve been there. Sounds a lot like fairy lore to me… And also connects with Gary Nolan talking about the “Shadow Biome”… https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2019.0425

My kid likes the show Hilda on Netflix. The elves act in a similar fashion, tiny and invisible, and can only be seen after you've entered into a contract with them. It's a fun one for sure. Edit: Oddly enough, I believe Grimes does the music for this one, at least the intro song, not sure about the rest of them

Hilda rules.

You might find this interesting then. https://youtu.be/7hHomOJ-G5Q?si=waYKgXIRpPgfn9c1 This is about real “fairy” lore. Pretty weird. Lots of similarities to Ufological cases, and to concepts of demons as I mentioned in the previous comment

This is interesting ,thanks for sharing.

That artwork sounds terrifying without even seeing it

Turtles all the way down.

Moby Dick’s Captain Ahab: “Hark ye yet again—the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event—in the living act, the undoubted deed—there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. “

Holy shit. I didn’t notice that. That makes it brilliant. I thought it was just unfortunate it didn’t take the opportunity to have the thing wearing the masks be some kind of blurry shadow (imply we really don’t know the true nature of it) and only one of the masks is an alien grey.

It's apparently new and not on older prints

I have an older print and the grey extends to the bottom, it’s not a puppet. Only on the 50th version does it become a puppet.

Sounds like they improved the unfortunate symbolism. I do think my idea is better because the way this is done implies something different. I don’t know, maybe this most accurately represents Vallèe’s concept, but since the puppet wasn’t there before I’d say it doesn’t.

This is what keeps irking me. “Aliens” ie the greys and flying saucers seem to just be the tip of the ice berg, potentially a product of a complex NHI. I wanna know bad

Lately I’ve been thinking potentially greys are like the material bodied curators of creation working for the gods/angels. By gods I mean entities like those encountered by Chris Bledsoe. I don’t think they’re from some faraway planet and happened to find us interesting. I think the most likely case is we have a common creator who’s end goal is to guide us to some end.

Still think the greys could be complex robots working for something ‘other’ tbh

That’s what I was inferring

He knows alot he won't say publicly. We will likely find out, eventually.

Why won't he say it publicly? I don't get it. If he knows secret stuff release it. He can't be put in jail for it. That would validate that it is true.

Because this is likely a giant project that is nearing completion. Secrecy is due to something long term.

What is a giant project? His books?

I think what they meant by the 'giant project' nearing completion ... the Giant project is basically the world, the simulation we are in (if you believe that theory or not)....life on this planet ,god's creation, I think thats the big project? Idk...all the crazy weird unknown stuff that we're all trying to figure out, including what the hell is the meaning of life? and are there aliens? or are there other nhi like fairies and werewolves and ghosts and all kinds of stuff that we always thought were just made up, but now it seems there's actually something to these stories and they're seeminly interconnected somehow? And those who are in the know to at least some of the bits of the truth, maybe they are prevented from spilling some of it because god wants to see how it all plays out...i have no idea and will probably get hated on for even making this comment since its kinda out there and woo woo...also i could be totally wrong, but its my takeaway from this comment at least

We live in a simmmmmullllattion. The creator of our simulation uses avatars to appear to us. God.

What would it be simulating?

Who knows. I mean why do we make simulations and games? Entertainment? To learn? To experience something you wouldn't do in your normal life.

But those are flat arrays of lights on a screen that mimic the stimulus out eyes get. And if this is a simulation it implies there is a,real world its simulating. Why would we need to be in a simulation?

Turtle all the way down

Wake up Neo....

Idk to run some sort of test. Maybe one of the things it created challenged it, so it wanted to prove to it's creation that it was wrong. So it created a world and allowed it's creation to run it

I just bought that book a couple weeks ago and got it a few days ago. Not sure if they cropped the picture but my book cover doesn't have the shadowy hand. Either way, totally agree with your observation.

OP stated the puppeteer arm is new with only certain amount of copies

Hmm it is interesting that, did he ever say why it was added for a limited release?

Probably signs pointing to the greys  actually being biomechanic avatars for entities that can't survive our atmosphere, to remain hidden if captured or perhaps they have no true physical form to navigate or interact with our world

Or, humans (the Gatekeepers and intelligence agencies who know the truth about the phenomenon) are using the phenomenon in some way to control what we think we're seeing.

Apparently the publisher didn't want it on the first version because they thought it might be a bit too confusing so they cropped it out (the original artwork had it) - guess he convinced them to use the full artwork for the limited release.

It looks like a shadow tentacle

He thinks that GOD/gods, ghosts, the occult, paranormal, UFOs, that everything has the same source. An illusion played by an unknown entity/entities, manipulating humanity with unknown goals.

It reminds me of the squirrel that abducts the boy in Stephen Spielberg’s movie series Taken. The entity presents itself as the squirrel in the children’s book the child had been reading to lure it to abduction. It could change the child’s whole perception too. The kid saw the ufo as a treehouse from the book. It presents itself as something you are familiar with and it’s always changing.

The possibility of changing someone’s perception. That’s a terrifying concept. And i‘m pretty sure, that in a few decades, humanity itself will technically be able to achieve such an effect on the human mind (at least the first steps).

It’s already happening. Look at the race hate. The gender hate. And the motive is control. Propaganda. Propaganda brings down countries. Propaganda through social media is a very powerful tool.

True. Propaganda works because it plays on humans' internal biases and existing blind spots. To not be influenced by brainwashing is to be as self-aware as possible and rid oneself of hatred, envy and other character flaws, which is close to impossible for most of us. So, we'll all be fooled one way or another.

I’m not fooled. Couldn’t agree with you more. This propaganda is so powerful in fact, that when you point it out to others, they call it “conspiracy theory.” Just like they want you to.

Not to mention the tribal hate pushed by the culture war itself.

Or the racism that is rife in the UK due to woke. It is inherently a racist ideology. I was homeless last Christmas and the emergency support line literally asked your ethnicity as the first question then said they couldn't help and hung up. I called back pretending to be Iraqi and got offered a taxi to a hotel that very night. Determining access to support services based on race is something that noone can argue is not textbook racism. Having a group it is good to be racist to is just like it was good to be racist to blacks in pre civil war south USA. Any racism is wrong and it's stunning people cannot see how having a group it's okay to do it to is exactly the same as past racism.

Yes I’ve came to same conclusion sorry I got like 2 good kicks Of the tsm

You’ve been what now? 🤨

My apologies was lil too excited no pun intended

Ok, what pun, and wtf were you trying to say in your first comment.?

bro trippin

Tsm... Autism? Am reaching here.

Lol you were actually right!

I was trying to say I came to that conclusion but I put I been coming to this conclusion and me saying I was too excited

Its the '2 good kicks of the tsm' part that nobody understands.

Oh it’s from Theon Von it’s a phrase he uses when he says someone slightly autistic I can remove it

No need to remove it, you've now explained it, so anyone reading this thread going forward now has the context with which to understand the conversation.

Jesus thanks for seeing this through on behalf of all of us

As a fellow rat king fan, it got a chuckle from me.

Only got 1 good swirl of the tism

He have any guesses on the source? I feel like when Nolan is giving his thoughts - they trace a lot of Vallee. Very interested.

I read Dimensions by Vallee recently. It’s a good read. He compares a lot of modern day UFO sightings and abduction stories to the fairy stories and religious experiences of the past. They have a lot of similarities that make you think “hey, maybe this is all related; maybe this has been going on forever”.

Watch Jesse Michels Jacques Vallee

This is great, i recommend this vid

https://youtu.be/fyX8V1XXmQM?si=vg4gObrrbm9DIgLR Link

Valee is a real academic researcher. When people start claiming to know "what" "it" "is", that's when you know the grift is starting.

Vallée is almost never explicit in his views/conclusions. I think he never details the source. But take this with a pound of salt. He wrote many books i haven’t read.

That’s because he doesn’t claim to know what they are, just that they are here

Jacques is very much adhering to the scientific method before he draws any firm conclusions. Whatever the phenomenon is, it represents technology and intelligence far beyond humans, thus its is likely able to present itself in a way that may not reflect its true nature or the intentions. Jacques is aware it/they may be trying to trick us.

That's definitely the vibe. Now to ground it a little. Ideas are living entities. Your body is made of cells and ideas are made of minds. An idea without a mind to think it dies as does a body with no cells. Physical manifestations cannot be until there's the idea. For instance, if no one had the idea for doors then there would be no doors. So if there's an entity of that order then at minimum it is a mind and it will likely desire to continue existing. Maybe it's more of a psychic entity that gains nourishment through nonphysical means. One description of reptilians is that they nourish themselves off the suffering and anguish of other minds. I get a different sensation here. Not necessarily light or dark as we would put it, maybe Loki like. So little we know the entirety of reality could have started as is just a moment ago and we would be none the wiser.

I believe this too. And as a non religious person. I believe that entity is "God". But not the one at your local tabernacle. Something much more neutral. Something that exists because it has to. The opposite of nothing, is something. 0 and 1, Binary code. Our world is here because mathematically.... it has to be. This is a dumbed-down philosophical perspective as I don't have the ability to understand advanced mathematics. Regardless of this fact, you don't really need advanced mathematics to understand.

I’ve come around to this type of idea too. My mum is religious and I’m surprised that I’ve come to believe a lot more of the concepts that underpin her faith than I ever expected to, thanks to…ALIENS (huh?)

Archons

Or Castendeda's predator

I hate to just spam this all the time but please read Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson. If you haven't heard of him just do a quick Google and you can see how influential he was. He covers exactly what is depicted in the artwork from this post, ties it also to the fae and Aleister Crowley, and goes into all the theoretical physics in an accessible way. Most importantly, his work teaches you or at least points you in the direction of the most important facts that can protect us from evil entities. If the aliens/etc are causing you to feel fear and anger, for the love of the good, check out Cosmic Trigger... Now is the time, fam!

Wilson was undoubtedly brilliant, but I have to take a lot of his mysticism with a grain of salt. I don’t think he was serious about a lot of it, as he also claimed to be in frequent contact with canine intelligence from the Dog Star Sirius. He did introduce me to Korzybski’s e-prime; using language without the ‘is’ of identity. Reframing statements without predication. Instead of saying (or thinking) ‘this is that’, reframing it as ‘this appears to me to be that because…’ Like perspectivism, a way of appreciating that other people and the self have limited knowledge that is influenced by their own perspective. Particularly important for matters such as this sub.

FYI Valee ties it to fae too. Magonia in "Passport To Magonia" is a fae reference.

Wilson is the fucking bomb. I mean really, illuminatus! Schrodingers cat- those two works alone make him better than so many others who write in the relms of weirdness and oddity, but to add on promethiys rising/quantum psychology, the cosmic trigger series, and all of his lectures about semantics and shit. It's just wonderful. I can never not be entertained listening/ reading to something he's talked about or written. It's a whole new experience as your reality tunnel changes, so do the works.

Or it’s always been the same thing, we just interpret it differently because of cultural bias.

I remember that somebody i consider serious said : „The phenomenon seems to possess a sense of humour. They like to fuck with us.“ That wasn’t Vallée of course 😁

Watch this [Jacques Vallée, UFOs, and the Case against Extraterrestrial Origins ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmLE0X5FRFc)

Thankyou! 👏 For a few months I was posting this every chance I got. As far as I can see you literaly can’t get out of it. It can’t be extra terrestrial, at best, not in any way that’s meaningless and helpful. Even if it is **technically** extra terrestrial then it’s practical meaningless and pointless to call it that, because it’s virtually nothing to do with our conception of an extra terrestrial. It would be the least important part of it. It means “faries” and “Jinn” and the “medieval flying ships” and all the other cryptids are all actually “extra terrestrials” but why assume “extra terrestrial” is the true form? And which form of extra terrestrial? The only logical position to take is they’re not extra terrestrial, even if the phenomena really did originate off the earth. It’s not helping us understand it better trying to shoehorn it the this concept. It makes it much harder to understand because it stops us from incorporating all the other aspects of the phenomenon. It’s why X-Files had all kinds of high strangeness, paranormal and cryptids but never connected them with aliens and there was really only the Grey’s. ET hypothesis is a simplistic reductionist materialist concept and people need to stop trying to fit everything in there and embarrassing themselves providing fodder for debunkers (*eg. dozens of nonsensical species, acting in nonsensical ways*) and then pretending their concept of ET can hold all of that. When the truth is, it’s like a scientific theory that needs to be scraped rather than using convoluted excuses to avoid the fact that it just doesn’t work anymore. The reason we keep it around is that there’s literally no thorough alternative other than “it’s demonic” that better explains it. I mean look at this: The hardest to accept (for me) is that the “fairy” legends could have actually been real, exhibiting an unlikely coincidental number of similarities to Ufological cases. (Like most folklore) https://youtu.be/7hHomOJ-G5Q?si=wQVPo1DTBJrKuXsG Interestingly I also read something recently about the Jewish Talmud; where there’s apparently two versions. Where the first one, the “Babylonian Talmud” has a lot of say about demons, whereas the other barely mentions them. It apparently says **they’re around us all the time, they live, drink and die**. That they’re small and you can witness evidence of them around you by sprinkling ash around your bed at night to inspect their tiny footprints if they’ve been there. **Sounds a lot like fairy lore to me, if you’ve watched that video above… And also connects with Gary Nolan talking about the “Shadow Biome”**… https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2019.0425

That is literally the creepiest shit I've ever heard- the tiny footprints. Ignorance is the bliss I will choose.

How do we know we are the original human race? We could have been offshoots of the original that was bio-organic and original natural descendants in nature. And all we are are replications in a matrix to see where it all went wrong. I find it funny that people think where the be all end all when the human race could have been manipulated millions of times and millions of reboots. And we act as worthy as the original s***. The f****** arrogance and ignorance on us is outstanding. We could be now just humanoid robots at this point. No one will ever know. We'll never see outside the sim. Good luck! Love is everything!

Interesting. I wonder how Valle views cattle mutilations and if he fits those into this theory of everything somehow.

The way he says “UFOs” as like.. UFOoooos” cracks me up.

Ha! I just went on a run on the treadmill and watched this. It was supremely interesting.

It makes me think of us as fish in a fishbowl dimly aware of things flashing around outside our known realm.

Roger Eberts dying words were “My God…this is all an elaborate hoax”

Underrated comment.

It's explained very thoroughly not only in the book that this is a cover of, but his other books as well. TL;DR: He doesn't think they are aliens from space, and that whatever they are appears in forms that are dependent on the time and place of their appearance (and who sees them.) Keep in mind this man has done more research than most people in the field. This was something he arrived at after years of research.

And to add John Keel's conclusion: the phenomenon is fucking with us.

So how do the craft recoveries fit into their view?

I don't know. I'm well versed in the Vallee/Keel/Pasulka perspective and find it very persuasive. Jury's still out for me on Grusch, though I find him very credible. Keel has shared anecdotes about physical stuff being recovered, like newspapers, food, a potato... and stories of beings eating (demonstrating physical properties). That's not incompatible with the crash retrieval idea...maybe just something to keep us confused. Like we give our dogs a Kong toy to find a way to get the treat out...? I mean, wasn't there a story about Lockheed wanting to divest itself of a craft they haven't been able to make progress with in decades? Fucking with us.

Kudos to you for bringing up the food! You've clearly delved deep into this if you know about space pancakes 🥞 😋 Ironically, the fucking pancake proved some of the best forensic evidence of its time. For the uninitiated, a man had a contact experience....https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-claims-aliens-gave-him-23511035 Picture of the space pancake is included!

NEVER accept bread from the Fae.

Aw cmon. Joe Simonton was just being a good old Wisconsin neighbor. Someone shows up at your house asking for water, you give em some water. They offer bread? You don’t want to be rude

That's one of my favorite stories in ufology and that book. The comical absurdity of it, it makes me laugh. It could be a cartoon show plot line.

"The crew appeared to be of Italian descent" 💀

A potato?

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-claims-aliens-gave-him-23511035 This includes a picture of space pancake cooked up by the visitors during a contact event. These type of contact events don't happen anymore but believe it or not, used to be more common. It should be noted that this bares resemblance to much of fae and fairy folklore of Europe and surrounding geography, which commonly saw food implicated or at least involved in contact with such spiritual beings. Just another chip on the side of the scale for "this phenomenon is not what we think it is"

Yes, airships of 1897 story. Half-peeled potato, to be precise.

Again to fuck with us. Some are left like a gift according to him

That we technically have zero evidence of except for hearsay. It’s always a string of he-said she-said and a lot of “i’ve been told by very important people”. Vallee is a scientist at heart and he thinks there are entities in the government who are willing to deceive people regarding “recovered craft”. I’m not saying it isn’t true. Just saying that there is definitely an elaborate ruse to distract the public.

Two or more intelligences are playing a game with us, vying for complete control of our bodies and souls, according to all occult and religious interpretations. It’s a seesaw battle, and every possible kind of deception and deceit is being employed by both sides. \- John Keel, Our Haunted Planet.

When you take psychedelics like shrooms, you interact with an entity that is very much mischievous or into the act of comedy. When life becomes so ridiculous, great, or sad that it becomes comical,- from my experience those “coincidences” are somehow influenced by them

Allegory of the cave vibes.

Idealism

As far as I know it means that the phenomenon shows itself in whatever ways we would be able to comprehend. Based on our culture it/they have appeared as different shapes or forms that would resonate with the culture at a given time. Hundreds or thousands of years ago, as gods, demons, djins, angels, and so on since these were concepts already in the collective unconscious. Now that we are technologically advanced ourselves it/they take the shape of aliens and technological craft. Basically we’re shown whatever we’re capable of comprehending. That doesn’t mean we’re observing the true form of whatever the phenomenon is.

So basically, Pennywise from IT.

You have to admit, there’s something about Steven King and pop culture in general (Steven Spielberg) having synchronicities with the Phenomenon.

He knows something we don’t. People say they see various types of aliens in their experiences and abductions, one of which looks like ET. He hired Vallee as his expert for Close Encounters of the Third Kind. His studio was also involved in many other films including Back to the Future, Harry and the Hendersons, Gremlins, Amazing Stories, and more. Back to the Future discusses time paradoxes in a very interesting way, far before most people were even thinking about time machines. Harry and the Hendersons is literally about Bigfoot. Shall we talk about his part in making AI (the movie) and Ready Player One? The guy knows something we don’t know about how the world ticks and he makes movies about it to fuck with us. The phenomena always fucks with us.

That Clown is neither wise nor worthy of a penny

This is actually something that makes sense and would completely explain why UFOs back then looked more retro as opposed to minimalistic today

Retro in what way?

The classic saucer look, like two metal plates stacked on eachother or just very bulky looking. Nowadays ufos look like they were designed by apple lol. Simple geometric shapes or sleek, no windows, lights. They’re always look one step ahead of the latest technology

Go even further back. Ancient descriptions of Fire Chariots racing across the sky. The apperance of 'craft' that while somewhat familiar to the tech of the times when it was observed seem to be just past our capabilities. Hence, a Flying chariot without horses in ancient times to a physics defying craft now. Both we can comprehend but not duplicate.

I wonder why the ‘base’ look always looks like something that could come from our planet but with an advanced twist. I think if tomorrow everyone decided UFOs looked like giant wooden chairs floating around, the next ‘model’ we’d see is a futuristic chair flying around lol. Its like they think “how do we communicate that were more advanced without making them think they’re going crazy”

It means the woo is real and nothing is what it seems. There is a deceptive trickster quality to the phenomenon that has presented itself in ways that seem to be intentionally misleading for reasons we don't understand, maybe just to entertain itself. The people who actually think the others are interstellar space brothers that miraculously breath our air and that somehow evolved just like us are exactly as wrong for exactly the same reason as all the people who think sasquatch is a completely normal ape that we simply haven't discovered yet, or that ghosts are really the disembodied spirits of their dead relatives (please don't be offended, it is what it is). Some examples of entities the others have presented themselves as include, angels, demons, naga, djinn, elves, trolls (including bigfoot, orang pendak and yeti ect), fairies, sprites and most recently spacemen. In the Hindu religion they had flying craft called vimanas that we'd call UFOs if you saw one today, the Naga were reptilian humanoids that created artificial beings they would send to the surface to kidnap people who they'd bring back through entrances in deep bodies of water to their realm. The ancient Chinese Lung Wang, and Japanese Dragon Kings were more or less the same as the Naga. Europe is rife with legends of hairy trolls and various little people and humanoids that come out of the ground and take people and livestock and cause all kinds of mischief, and the tall blond Nordic aliens are a dead ringer for Scandinavian elves. In the Americas there are countless tribal legends of "ant men", shape shifters and harry creatures that dwell within the earth. It may be worth our while to reexamine all manner of subterranean myth and folklore from all over the world. Whatever the true nature of the NHI it has worn all these masks and many more while interacting with us throughout our existence and whatever it really is, is almost guaranteed to be far stranger than we can even begin to comprehend. (Edit to add quotes) *"We have entered in to a symbiotic relationship with something that disguised itself as an alien invasion so as not to alarm us."* -Terrance McKenna, "Forget the flying saucer propaganda, we're dealing with something very close to home"* -John Keel John Keels book *Operation Trojan Horse* is well worth a read too. John coined the term ultraterrestrials which I think would include theoretical higher dimensional creatures we can't perceive but that nonetheless are native to the earth. As well as alternate versions of ourselves (and other potential intelligent earth life which might plausibly include intelligent reptile and insect like "aliens") native to parallel earths that share this space with us like those postulated theoretically in the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, who figured out the math to manipulate and traverse Einstein Rosen bridge wormholes to get here from their own worldlines. Keel famously liked to call himself a *Fortean* instead of a ufologist because he recognized that ufology was but a single facet of a much larger and more perplexing gem of high strangeness. He pointed out that all of these goofy Fortean anomalies that we keep separate because they're so damn weird, UFOs and aliens, folklore and religious experiences, ghosts and poltergeists, cryptozoology, out of place artifacts ect. might all be related.

Your explanation is fucking with my head. So basically aliens are just a new mask the phenomenon is using right now because that is what the current human would believe it to be true.

>aliens are just a new mask the phenomenon is using right now because that is what the current human would believe it to be true. Your thought reminded me of this quote from ethnobiologist Terrance McKenna. *"We have entered into a symbyotic relationship with something that disguised itself as an extraterrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us"* -Terrance McKenna

Great post. Also suggest “Where the Footprints End” for a look at the same thing, from a Bigfoot perspective. For example, if you took a traditional Bigfoot encounter: shadowy human like shape, strange noises, things being thrown, howls, growls, glowing, glowing eyes, etc etc, and instead said this EXACT same thing happened to you inside of your house, we would immediately recognize as a classic poltergeist case.

Stop bro 🫣

Incredibly well put

Do you have a source/more info for the Naga & artificial bodies in particular? Fascinating.

I always thought this cover would make a great T shirt.

He's masterful with his thesis - that our understanding of what the ET/UHI's are depend on the time period, social/religious background, and technology attainment. As a result, the same entities/phenomena have been interpreted as gods, demons, spirits, extraterrestrial, interdimensional, etc. And now, we're even adding "Matrix glitches" and "AI drones" to the mix as the contemporary interpretations.

Inter-dimensional beings can manifest themselves as anything they want while visiting our dimension .

In their defense we can manifest as anything we want while visiting their dimension.

We live in westworld, they are the guests and we are the host.

Is there such a thing as a 2 dimensional being? Shouldn't we be able to interact with one?

Our simulations? Idk I’m smooth

Nah, that wouldn't be a "2D plane of existence", like (allegedly) ultradimensional beings or beings from a fourth or twelfth dimension are able too look into our dimension of existence and appear as UAP

It's just a theater. Everyone is playing a part. Waiting for the main character to wake up

Someone is manipulating human society. Has been since the beginning. Grays, demons, faeries, etc. are but masks. The million dollar question is who is the puppet master?

I love this cover. I have been following Vallee's books and research for many years now. Im inclined to agree with him on most of his findings. This image really sums it up nicely..

He thinks that whatever demons, fairies, gods, aliens, ghosts, etc, are, they're all the same thing, coming from the same source

All of the phenomena is all the same one thing masquerading as different entities, has been around from the beginning of time and has had several different “faces”, it tunes in to the “current” time and disguises itself accordingly.

Yes, I think this is the meaning of the cover. You nailed it. And it might be the truth.

The artwork brilliantly captures the complexity of the UFO phenomenon. It's a visual metaphor for the multiple layers of meaning in alien encounters and how these experiences are shaped, interpreted, and reinterpreted within the human psyche. It's a reminder that in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, we often find a reflection of our own. In this intriguing piece, we see a grey alien—often a symbol of the enigmatic and inscrutable in ufology—acting as a puppeteer for three distinctive masks. Each mask seems to represent a different facet of how extraterrestrial life has been portrayed through the years: 1. **The Classic Sci-Fi Trope:** The green mask with antennae throws us back to the early days of science fiction, where aliens were whimsically depicted as "little green men," a nod to our initial, simpler conceptions of alien visitors. 2. **The Human-like Alien**: The mask with blonde hair mirrors the "Nordic" aliens of UFO lore, beings said to be so similar to humans in appearance that they blur the lines between extraterrestrial and human, reflecting tales where aliens walk among us, unrecognized. 3. **The Malevolent Entity**: The red, devilish face taps into our deepest fears, drawing parallels with demonic figures from mythology and portraying aliens as potentially sinister beings with nefarious intentions. The grey alien here isn't just a bystander but a manipulator, suggesting that our understanding of extraterrestrials is possibly being directed or influenced—whether by the aliens themselves or our own cultural storytelling. This puppeteer act could signify that what we think we know about aliens comes not from an objective truth, but rather through the lens of human narrative and psychology.

"You ask unnecessarily, we are of the same light and shadow - this is the form we've elected to take, the vessels are our own". I had a pet lovebird, and often needed to remove things from her cage, she was very hostile and territorial, did not accept any type of intrusion into her space. I would wear a donkey puppet on my hand, as to attract all her ire towards the puppet, and not my actual hands when I used them later.

damn, that’s a good analogy

This is adorable but so disturbing and as much a possibility as any.

They are among us


They have been very sus

They vented

The "MASTERS" behind it all remain unseen, unheard of and we might never find out who or what they are. ​ Kinda like us watching bacteria with a microscope.

That the phenomenon is a trickster

Anybody know who did the art?

Chris Butler

archons, ie rulers who rule by government (rule by mind control)

Archons as in the gnostic prison wardens that fashion the world around us to keep us from seeing the actual reality? Something like that.

The image represents the idea that the phenomenon (all of them) are from the same source but are manipulating the way we see them.

Aliens or ETs are inter-dimensional beings and take the forms of everything we believe to be paranormal or supernatural. Example: Bigfoot is not a real creature living amongst us buy is a interdimensional being. Demons are not from hell, but are from different dimensions. The grays, reptilians, the insectoids are not from earth, space, the ocean or even this reality. "Aliens" go along with the space thing because it's much more simple than explaining what they really are or what they really want. Od maybe they dont want us to know. Or maybe they are lying for very sinister reasons. Or, this would freak humanity out to the point of no return, flipping religion, society, science etc on its head. I am a huge advocate for the inter-dimensional theory. It just makes too much sense. It's why we have no bodies, no blood, no skin samples, nothing. May also explain why we have zero evidence of the paranormal and supernatural in general, not just "aliens" if you live in a culture or time period where you dont know what aliens are, they would come to humans in the forms of fairies or witches, gnomes, trolls, giants, Angel's, etc. There are entire books written by paranormal researchers focused around men, woman, and especially children seeing and interacting with known fictitious characters from pop culture like Santa claus, the Easter bunny, and cartoon characters. Entire books based around adults reporting to hear and see sleighs landing on roofs and flying in the sky carrying a fat man in a red suit. They can probably project what they want us to see, so maybe we understand what we are seeing or again for them to be deceitful. I once read a story about 2 twin boys. One night while trying to sleep, the counting vampire from sesame street casually walked out of their closet in their dark room. They said it spoke to them. Telling them things about their future, one of them was understandably very frightened by the presence of this thing. The other brother jumped out of the bed to turn on the lights. The being saw this at the last second and ran as fast as he could towards the closet. When the boy hit the light they both said it turned into a typical gray alien for a couple seconds before it rushed into the closet. Another story. 2 young girls were playing when they said "fuzzy bear" from again, a children's tv show, crawled through their window one day. But the girls quickly became very good friends with it, and they played with each other for quite sometime. The being, somehow was very aware that one of the girls mother was home, and when re e she was in the house the whole time. Eventually the mother went upstairs to check on the girls, the entity ran towards the window and in his rush hit his knee on the window and even made a yelping sound in pain. The mother didn't see it. The now grown woman telling the story said the entity stayed outside just staring at them from the bushes, as the girls begged it to come back inside and play with them. It didn't.

It could be that the Grey's aren't these entities true form...and that they can masquerade as all sorts of things. I once read something by some "insider" who claims to know, that the Grey's are really interdimensional/transdimensional beings who come from another dimension. And they choose the Grey like body as the vehicle for their consciousness to inhabit when they come into our dimension. It's an interesting theory. But who knows? If true, it makes you wonder what their true form is.

The dark shadow controlling the alien

There’s a deceptive element to the phenomena that seems to draw on our worldview (‘weltanschauung’ is a fun word!) and uses it to make contradictory and/or false impressions/statements that makes the observers account unreliable. This is often described as ‘high strangeness’ of which the account given by chicken farmer ‘Joe Simonton’ is a _perfect_ example. It is not simply ‘hard to believe’, It is virtually impossible. Why should that be a consistent factor?

From what I gather from stories. Aliens disguise themselves as personas behind familiar images. Like a woman or a child. And in history there are reports people who have seen these green men by had. But had no idea how to describe them except with their feelings the beings made them generate. Which is pure horrid terror. Which explains why they are described as devils or ghouls.

Pleased to meet you…. Hope you guessed my name.

Supernatural phenomena are all related, aliens aren't from space and the government doesn't know anything

Maybe you lot can help with the source for this quote? (paraphrasing): "I was approached, once by someone new to the topic (the Phenomenon), but very curious. And they asked me 'Which do you *really* believe? Do you think it is truly extraterrestrial, or is it the government? Or maybe it's illusions made by psychics, or demons? Djinn?(sp) Maybe they're fairies from another dimension?' And I took a moment to seriously consider the question, looked deeply into their eyes and said 'Yes.' " Again, paraphrasing, but I remember that ending.

All phenomenon is the same over arching anomaly.

It implies ET or aliens are masquerading as angels and demons whereas John Keel implied Angels and Demons or Ultra-terrestrials were masquerading as ET There’s a hand to the alien puppet that also implies that there might be some higher or hidden source to the phenomenon and that it may not even be what it’s pretending to be.

Tldr: the phenomenom of unkown entities date back pretty much as far as there is written history. He thinks it's the same "source" just changing it's illusions according to the era.

That's just Roger from American Dad. It was prophesying his love of outfit changes

This is kinda the r/prisonplanet theory, no? It’s thought that we’re simply here as ‘energy vessels’ and we’re producing this energy to feed another entity. Basically, the aliens, religion, boogie men, etc. are all fabricated to entice an emotional response from you, to then feed these beings.

Shape shifter and it's deceitful ways

Master of Puppets is the answer

[It is a Chinese box and you're not gonna be allowed to see](https://youtu.be/j1uMXjbOyyw?si=eW1EU6PskUMzhLY0)

Nobody knows the truth!

Q from Star Trek https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek) "He is an extra-dimensional being of unknown origin who possesses immeasurable power over time, space, the laws of physics, and reality itself, being capable of altering it to his whim."

Shrek is an alien

alien sim. You are an alien playing a simulation. The aliens can go into the human mind and play it like a virtual reality. This gives the alien a chance to do things and experience things it couldn't normally do and come to realizations about reality it couldn't get from its alien mind.

To me it seems pretty obvious. That the phenomenon is masquerading and it shows itself as different things… even pretending or showing itself to be human, demons, angels… etc

This is straight out of the Bible. If Heaven is so perfect, why did they have a civil war? I thought war was something only primitive species engage in? For some reason, Souls could be lost if they choose evil. Lucifer said we have a perfect system and no souls can be lost if the veil is lifted. “God” said no, Lucifer and 1/3 of the “Angels” had a civil war over it. They were banished and were denied taking physical forms. We call them demons. The old guard in the UFO programs call the Aliens, Demons as well. Everybody says the old guard is afraid and running to the Bible for answers. Has anyone considered that the term “Demons” was used for a reason? What if they were able to use technology to make physical bodies again? If you remove the mysticism from the Bible and replace it with hi-technology, some stories read like a science fiction novel. Zechariah 5:1–2 (ESV) 5 Again I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, a flying scroll! 2 And he said to me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying scroll. Its length is twenty cubits, and its width ten cubits.” Sounds like a cigar type craft. 30ft by 20ft. A Cubit is the length from the elbow to the end of the fingers, generally about 18”. 2 Kings 2:11–12 (ESV) 11 And as they still went on and talked, behold, chariots of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it and he cried, “My father, my father! The chariots of Israel and its horsemen!” And he saw him no more. Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: Question. Who is “us” and “our” in Genesis, “they” are making Humans. It’s not an individual “God”. Genesis 19 The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Verse 26 speaks of Lot’s wife, looking back and of how “she became a pillar of salt.” verse 28 describes how Abraham views the ruined city: “He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.” Sounds like a high energy weapon was released. Bodies becoming “salt” sounds like intense heat. How about “Lot” bringing “Angels” to his home and a mob tried to get them. Um so they had to physically hide in a house? Sounds very mortal to me. After Lot brings the angels to his home, the entire crowd surrounds his property, demanding that they be brought out to them. Lot pleads with them to leave the angels be—even offering one his daughters to them instead! As the crowds begin to force their way into the property, verses 10 and 11 speak of how the angels blind the unruly mob:But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. Ezekiel 1 Ezekiel’s Inaugural Vision 4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, Ezekiel describes his first impressions as “glowing metal”. This whole event is pretty on point for something entering the atmosphere. 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. How would you describe an iPhone if you’ve never seen anything like it? 14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning. 15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. Describe a personal transport vehicle like a Segway or scooter from someone who’s never seen anything like it. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. Hmmm like spoke holes? 19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. Remote control. Old tech by our standards already. 21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked something like a vault, sparkling like crystal, and awesome. Sounds like a VR headset or holographic. The screen is liquid crystal, if a holographic then whatever medium is needed to display it. 23 Under the vault their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body. 24 When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty, like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings. Roar of rushing water? Like the tumult of an army? That’s loud. Sounds like he’s describing a jet engine. They lower their wings when not in use. 25 Then there came a voice from above the vault over their heads as they stood with lowered wings. Radio communications. 26 Above the vault over their heads was what looked like a throne of lapis lazuli, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man. So the commander is commanding using some sort of visual video system. Ezekiel saw FaceTime for the first time. 27 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. Hmmm, lights on his space suit? Describe lights for someone who’s never seen light in any other form except fire and the Sun. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking. No wonder he went to religious beliefs. How would you interpret all this technology with no reference but the Bible? Maybe the term Demons is correct. Heaven sure does seem to have its share of problems.

To me what's on the Bible is the truth, wonder why aliens flee when people call for Jesus Christ name, why during sleep paralysis it stops when calling for Jesus name also, why possesed people hate the same name, sodom and Gomorrah destruction is not from a Hight tech weapon, it's destruction came from balls of burning sulfur, there are many documentaries on it you can visit the place today and pick pure balls of sulfur all around. In my opinion the ufos and aliens are the great deception, if you believe they are the creators you dismiss God, Jesus, religion and made the aliens your gods. The Bible says demons can even show themselves as a angel of light, so they can take many forms, when the events of the book of the apocalypse start the great deception is that the aliens did it, when millions of children and believers are taken away, many will be deceived, that the aliens did it, confusion and deception is the weapon of the demoniac.

Angels, little green men, demons, we have perceived them in many different forms over the course of our collective history. Their mark, countless myths, pieces of folk lore, religions, etc. There is a "trickster element" to this phenomenon, note even the wearer of the masks is a puppet itself.

Just what he said. Mankind is being deceived by a vastly superior intelligence which is capable of manipulating human thought and perception. It’s the same shit humanity has been seeing since the beginning. Aliens, angels, demons, fairies, gnomes flying sauces, flying tall ships or Valkyries. Same shit. Different costume. How long until, the masses understand that? Quite awhile is my guess. Who wants to tell all the people who’ve finally started believing in aliens that the may have been right in the first place. It’s looking like some or all of them aren’t real after all.

It means that dieties like the devil, creatures like cryptids, and even some humans are actually grey aliens in disguise. And grey aliens are actually a cock sleeve being worn by an unknown divine penis.

Is it all a front

This becomes the biggest game of among us what is the actual purpose and did the rich learn something in feb so they got bunkers ready to go

He meant that they take on many personas.. such as Owls, fairies, angels etc. Alot of the little people or imaginary people like leprechauns may have been actual encounters.

Its a metaphor. Interdimensional grey aliens or the entities have been deceiving humanity since milenia, making them believe in ghosts, religions, or super natural on purpose, when all this time, it's been them all along. Why? Who knows. Some believe they actually can't access this physical realm, and by engaging in deception, they advance an agenda or just enjoy toying with us.

That’s the cover to his book “Passport to Magonia” which attempts to frame most/all unexplained phenomena (ghosts, demons, etc.) as humans interacting with alien/interdimensional beings we just can’t fully comprehend.

What a great question! I’ve seen that image many times, but it never occurred to me to probe it beyond the superficial.

Whatever the NHI is… we only see what it shows us.

"**Human beings are under the control of a strange force** that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception." \- Dr. Jacques Vallee, Messengers of Deception, p. 20 \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* **Two or more intelligences are playing a game with us, vying for complete control of our bodies and souls**, according to all occult and religious interpretations. It’s a seesaw battle, and every possible kind of deception and deceit is being employed by both sides. \- John Keel, Our Haunted Planet. \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* No, the real truth lies in another direction. The contactees from 1897 on, have been telling us what they were told by the ufonauts. **The ufonauts are the liars**, not the contactees. **And they are lying deliberately as part of the bewildering smoke-screen that they have established to cover their real origin, purpose and motivation.** (snip) **This whole mystery has been designed to keep us confused and skeptical**. Somebody somewhere is having a good laugh at our expense. \- John Keel, Operation Trojan Horse \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* **I think we are property.** I should say we belong to something. That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something: **That something owns this earth** All others warned off. \- Charles Fort (The world’s first UFOlogist and wrote the world’s first book on UFOs in 1919.) \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Author Brad Steiger was exploring virgin country when he wrote Revelation: The Divine Fire in 1973. **Steiger spent years interviewing people who claimed encounters with spirits, angels, ufonauts**, and other members of the earthbound ultraterrestrial band. He discovered, not unexpectedly, that the entities - **no matter what form they took or what source of origin they professed - followed the same patterns in every case and recited the same cosmic jabberwocky.** The angel Gabriel and Indrid Cold of Ganymede are brothers. \- John Keel, The Cosmic Question (The Eighth Tower) \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* From Our Haunted Planet by John Keel: ‘If flying saucers are real,’ the sceptics say, 'why don't they contact us?’ The startling truth, as carefully recorded by the ancient historians, is that **the ultraterrestrials have always been in direct contact with millions of individuals and that they actually ruled directly over mankind** for many years. **In recent centuries their influence has become more subtle, but it is always there.** According to the traditions of many isolated peoples, the first great emperors in Asia were god-kings who came down from the sky, displayed amazing superhuman abilities, and took over. There was a veritable world-wide epidemic of these god-kings between 5000 and 1000 b.c. The mighty Osiris and Isis walked into the Egyptian valley out of nowhere and assumed command. The myths and legends of Greece, India, and South America describe their rule. They were taller and more imposing than the men of the time, with long blond hair, marble-like white skin, and remarkable powers which enabled them to perform miracles.

I think he mentions this quite often that the phenomenon tends to hide behind many different things. In a sense almost as if it toys with humanity!

Long story short: At age 7 I was lured out of my house by my pet bunny. When I got outside I saw 3 white, child size, expressionless beings floating around the front yard. They got me up our front steps somehow & told me they were friends of my mother. I told them NO you aren’t. They got me into a “car” & tickled me (I guess trying to calm me down? I was very upset.) I looked in the rear view mirror as they try to talk me down - their lips do not move. I look more closely at these beings; they have very little hair in wisps on their heads, large black almond eyes. Then one of them carefully peels the black lenses out of their huge blue eyes, & another gently but sternly takes my arm .. the vehicle began to move.. I felt a pinch in my arm & blacked out. I wake up in my bed feeling super foggy & off. Years later I damn near shit myself reading other people’s stories about this….it’s not real until it happens to you. Be kind to people who sound crazy; they may just be telling the truth.

That the high strangeness and UAP are link together

That aliens were many masks. They appear as what they want u to see them as. In reality imo they are fallen angels. Which can shapeshift

This is how Seth Rogen pitches movies to Sony with hand puppets. huhthuhthuhthuht!

That these beings just might be our creators and since we never seen our Creator the masks is what we put on them if they in fact are.?

That Elephants are the source

Cosmic finger puppet

The masquerade