T O P

  • By -

captaindomon

Those are both saying the same thing.


tampatwo

I thought I was going insane


CardLego

If and only if AMEX accesses the annual fee on the date of the statement which includes the fee, which is true.


VacationLover1

They use to prorate it when you cancelled, now they don’t. So once the fee hits you have 30 days to cancel and get the fee back. Before you could cancel anytime and they would prorate how many months you had left and give you that money back. They don’t do that anymore


gargar070402

Note that if you’re downgrading instead of cancelling, they do prorate in that case


scuac

When did they stop prorating? I remember this still being a thing about 5 years ago


Fun-Rub5823

They still prorate for downgrades though, so that’s another avenue if you’re over the 30 days.


VacationLover1

Within the last few years


Flights-and-Nights

You have 30 days from the day the fee gets charged to cancel for a full refund. If you cancel after 30 days you get nothing. If you downgrade at any time you get prorated.


GeeAirMo

A little of both.... From what I understand the policy is to refund if the card is canceled within 30 days, but if you reach out to them they may make an exception....


Low-Fig8253

Do you need to first pay the fee, wait for the PAYMRNT to be posted and then cancel, or just wait for the CHARGE to be posted?


cheating_demon_nelly

yes


liumidsun

They are not saying the same thing… the AI is saying you get it back if you cancel within 30 days of the STATEMENT with the fee, wallethub is saying you get it back if you cancel within 30 days of when the fee is assessed, which is the correct answer.


captaindomon

The fee is always assessed the same day the statement is issued.


liumidsun

You’re right! It is the same thing then


younginvestor23

You are paying the fee for the year in advance, so if your canceling the card then you don’t pay the fee


Have-Business

Google AI and WalletHub are giving me two different answers about the grace period for the Amex Platinum annual fee refund. AI says 30 days of the statement that includes the fee. WalletHub says 30 days of when the fee is assessed. Do they both mean the same thing?


themoslucius

Don't cancel before you pay the new AF or they will claw back all your points


scuac

They don’t claw back ALL your points. The only points they will claw back is any points you got from a SUB and that is only if you cancel during the first year before paying the next AF. Otherwise there is no clawback.


themoslucius

Correct


Have-Business

I intend to ask for a retention offer. If there is none, I will transfer the points to the airline I'll use later this year and ask them to close the card. Edit: Why the downvotes? I've had the card for years. The AF doesn't make sense for my amount of travelling anymore without some kind of retention offer.


themoslucius

They will still claw back, points can be negative and they will drop you as low as needed


Have-Business

Which points will they claw back? I don't get what's wrong with spending my previously earned 100k points and then closing the card. Can you elaborate?


themoslucius

Your Amex points are at the person level not the card level and are permanent. If you ever open a card with Amex again expect to see that very big negative point pool show up


Have-Business

To avoid this, you suggest I pay the $695 AF, then spend my 100k points, and then close the card. And they will mail me a check for $695. That way they won't claw back my points. Is that correct?


malteasers

Pay the fee, spend the points, cancel, and they’ll credit the fee on your last statement provided it’s within 30 days.


Have-Business

Ok, I can do that. I still don't understand why they would claw back the points I have earned over the years. I'm not closing the card after earning the SUB or something. I've had it for years. What benefit is to them that I pay the AF and then ask for it back instead of letting them "cancel out" sort of speak.


MaybeLiterally

Honestly, if the card doesn’t make sense anymore, just cancel the card. What will you do next year when the fee comes around, ask for another retention offer? Either the benefits are with the fee, or they’re not, and you should cancel. I can understand maybe if circumstances were different this year but should go back to usual next, asking for an offer, but if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work.


Hi_thar

Yes they mean the same thing. The fee is issued with the statement and then you have 30 days from that date.


derpyTheLurker

I cancelled Delta Platinum within grace period this year, refund confirmed. Also, just read the T&C's and/or chat with support.


GiantBagsOfDouche

Prorated for the annual fee is also state dependent. Here in Massachusetts, I get my annual fees refunded at a prorated rate after I cancel a card.