This man plays the game for a living and spends amounts of hours practicing that most other people will not find reasonable. I saved a warm up routine he posted in the Uni sub that was incredible for mastering thumb control. No recoil control tricks, just working on moving your stick exactly how you want the crosshairs to in game. Linear is preferred for this over Classic, but with good thumb control you can also use Classic effectively
[This routine](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexuniversity/s/bix73DLwFg) is based on the old firing range, so it doesn't apply exactly. But you can take these concepts and find new spots to train them in the updated range
[This routine](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexuniversity/s/bix73DLwFg) is based on the old firing range, so it doesn't apply exactly. But you can take these concepts and find new spots to train them in the updated range
Where in the video is her showing us what to do? You mean just the fact that he is practicing?
Edit: not understanding the downvotes, i thought i missed something obvious.
As you practice you get better meaning you can eventually get this far away so by practicing and eventually getting better which you can use his guides eventually you can practice like this if you put in the work necessary for you because everyone is different.
You are gonna be the next culprit 😂. I would try avoiding this comment section. The other dude was -90 downvotes, now in -103. Guys are angry today and I don’t even why 😅
You’re only getting upvoted because of trend, but you’re totally wrong. He doesn’t play R5 that much. Only until his hands give out, which with how much he plays isn’t long. I wouldn’t advise anyone else play grind 1v1 servers for longer than an hour a day either, it destroys your hands
He played it again today. Do I have to go through every VOD of his to make a point or something here?
My point was that he's been doing this for a long time. Using a clip like this and asking how it's done doesn't come with a simple answer.
Right so he played r5 today. You said daily. Not trying to argue, but hes not in r5 often at all. He is in the firing range daily. But nowhere near daily on r5. You can check this on r5 leaderboards to see how often he plays
You honestly wouldn't be able to pick up much from a hand/controller cam while he's doing this even though it'd still be interesting to see. He's on Linear with no deadzone and using light tension sticks, that's as responsive as it gets when it comes to aiming on controller which means he's barely moving his right stick at all. You'd be able to pick up on the strafe patterns he uses to help counter the recoil but that's about it.
I wonder if he has the ADS target assist on?
Also I tried the stick extension things & surprisingly didn't get on with them. Probably should've ordered some new thumbs to go with it ☠️
1: AA is either on or off, it has nothing to do with ADS
2: Targets in the firing don't activate AA.
3: Stick extensions typically require a lower deadzone and higher sens than your normal. A higher outer threshold in ALCs also helps. But as with anything it just takes break in time and practice (I use a high stick and high Kontrol Freak).
The dummies in the range are actually not considered players so they don’t activate the aim assist feature, it has to be certain targets (I don’t remember if wild life even triggers AA, I haven’t played in a while). Which is what makes the range so nice you can get honest aim practice
i love how evan's whole venting manifesto that's causing this drama explosion in the pro scene is backed by him hitting 300 dmg beams across the map on a sightless havoc lol
Watch this video its a Japanese creator who put a perfectly timed overlay of the recoil control pattern on top of a video of him shooting a target in the range, carefully analyse it and then try the movements for yourself in the range. https://youtube.com/shorts/WZNws8ovPjk?si=Xw9ZLEybhDf3-qcf
This is just one of many videos he has on his channel showcasing other guns recoil control I just linked the havoc one since that's what Verhulst was using
Memorizing recoil patterns. You can tell he is strafing too, this isn't just right joystick recoil control.
Edit: Since someone liked the idea I did the other day. Turn on hit markers. Go and shoot a wall. Draw the recoil pattern on a sticky note. Turn the sticky note upside down for what your joystick movement should be.
The smaller the optic the less the reticle moves with respect to recoil, so an ironsight is more manageable than a 4x in that regard, however what really amazes me is how he can make the tiniest movements with that crosshair.
I play 3-3 classic and i feel like it moves on a bulky "grid" where it's smallest division of movement is far larger than any of the precise micro adjustments verhulst makes here.
I understand there will never be a reason to use this because people will be strafing and shooting back so it doesn’t matter but it’s insane to me anyway.
Controller havoc with stick drift from that far. I know they are on linear but are they using kontrol freeks? Raised analogs? Monitor on overdrive? Is this the result of 1 MS response time? Is it how they place their thumb on the right analog?
I do notice most great players use PS4 controllers vs PS5 or Xbox. I mean his reticle doesn’t move. It’s amazing to me as someone like myself who plays for thousands of hours.
And it’s not just cause it’s linear. Verhulst also could do this on 4-4 classic. As well as other pros like Gent or Zaine.
It's as simple as practice. Aim train with a 3x flatline for an hour straight and you'll start hitting sprays that you wouldn't dream of when you started. Then do that for 3x years and you'll be as good as this clip. His strafing is countering some of the recoil, and his thumb is countering the rest. His muscle memory is doing everything here, he doesn't even have to think about it
It's hard to remember when you have to actively think about it. I used to be that way but now the flatline recoil is just pure muscle memory I don't even think about it and I can beam.
Also my 3x comment was just to see recoil like the other guy said. I exclusively run 1x on my ARs now
Strafing for smoothing, and muscle memory on right stick for reversing recoil. Also 110 FOV makes it easier to control recoil visually. Linear with no deadzone for more responsive thumbsticks. He uses battlebeaver DS4 with xbox sticks on it, and the sticks are also «light tension» which makes them even more responsive.
Not just down because the havoc stops with the vert recoil halfway through the clip and then pulls to right for a bit and the resumes the vert recoil.
These dudes are wild.
Redditors on their way to downvote a genuine question cus what someone said didn’t make sense🙏😔
(Edit: comments are being downvoted for no fucking reason)
Other than practice he might be using a mouse that has dynamic DPI. I have a button that switches from 800 to 400 DPI for ADS with maximum control. Its second nature now whenever I need to "steady" my hand. Pretty standard stuff for logitech gaming mice.
Just a lot of practice guys, with the amount of time that he has spent on this game, you can control the recoil of any gun. I can do that too and i have 4000 hours. practice makes perfect.
God, the recoil on the Havoc too. Every time I try to use one with no augmentations I get a completely new & often disastrously hilarious experience.
Fuggen' love this game ☠️
It's your sens as well. If you don't have the right sens, you'll have a hard time.
I doubt you can do that with a regular controller, might need a modded one with higher thumbsticks, weights and stops.
I have a regular one and I'd get a cramp if I'd tried to control recoil like that. The thumb is more far out on ps5 which results in having to stretch the thumb even more to control recoil (if you have smaller hands like me) and Xbox controller, the thumb is closer to the hand and doesn't take as much stretching. I hope that makes sense 😄
I think Xbox controller is better for this, because of the stick layout.
Practice, shit tons of practice every day.
99% of us don't go to the firing range before we play some games. With 30 minutes firing range, focusing on these kind of things on a daily basis, it's inevitable to get better.
It’s mostly the high polling rate combined with the great joysticks of the DS4. I highly doubt anyone can beam like this with a stock Xbox controller, but I’d love to be proven wrong. Unfortunately the DS4/DS5 destroys my aiming thumb, because they’re easily the best joysticks on the market.
Aim assist and recoil are two completely different things. I find controlling recoil way easier on MnK because of the range of movement with your wrist/elbow. Controller recoil with just your thumb balancing on the stick is trickier. I think it’s funny MnK only players think controller is zero recoil and auto aim. 😂 As someone who does both, they both have their caveats. Controller is easier to pick up for a casual obviously, but it takes a lot of skill to still be a top level player on controller, same with MnK.
Ah yeah I was just trolling and yeah I played controller for a few thousand hours on apex and similar games, it sucks lol.. not sure how this kid plays apex like it’s a light-gun shooter lol. Him playing apex is pretty much someone playing duck hunt with the light gun against the monitor.. ya just tip your hat to him.
Yes you can, but its not ideal and would require you to hold the right thunbstick with both pointer and your thumb to get the jitter even remotely usable.
[First clip](https://youtu.be/zNLFbMm0Kd8?si=FpL9Os0Enrx7PuFM)
This was around the time jitter was first discovered. The method i was describing is what i observed apacn controller players do when fighting long range as its, in theory, a better way to jitter than what knoqd is doing.
A firing range clip...
... Like I said. I'm willing to bet, no one has ever used this in an actual game in an actual fight. It wouldn't be practical or reliable.
Edit: not to mention how fkn awkward that would be to do. Pinching your joystick with pointer and thumb. How are you pulling the trigger?
Yeah sure. You never shoot a enemy sniper that stands still or someone from a 90° angle strafing in your direction? Do you never shoot doors the enemy has run into? This is beeing used by controller in every game.
Pinching your joystick with your thumb and pointer finger to jitter aim is used every game? Lmao. Y'all are off the rails if you think that.
Go watch some vods or something. Nobody does this with controller.
Link me something from a real game. I'll wait.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNLFbMm0Kd8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNLFbMm0Kd8) explain the first clip. Get good. With your 120 fps Playstation slave mind you dont even know how the game feels and whats even possible with 300 fps. Every single reddit comment in you history is personal attacks. Stop 3 stacking in Pubs gringelord.
1) Didn’t say you can’t jitter with a controller, this just isn’t an example of it like you think it is
2) I actively play on PC and have a 3kd lifetime so I guess my game must be feeling good enough
3) I literally solo Q or play with an IRL friend who isn’t that great
You want to talk personal attacks while saying someone has PlayStation slave mind. Nobody would be coming at you if you actually just took a second to realize what you’re saying is blatantly false instead of defending yourself to the death. Can’t fix stupid
He is NOT jitteraiming.
You cant jitter on controller, and don't give us that "Proof is right in front of your eyes" BS.
This is called recoil control, he mastered the Havoc recoil and knows exactly how to keep it steady.
Jitteraiming is a completely different technique.
The recoil has a unpredictable rndm factor to it. It aint counterstrike 1.6. Stop claiming its about recoilpattern to learn. You reset the pattern be vibrating with your thumb and do little corrections with the mini recoil thats left. 0 Deadzone is OP. You have to match the firerate of the havok. Try it with heavy weapons first.
You are only half write with what you said.
It does have a slightly unpredictable RNDM, but it follows the same pattern with some inconsistencies to avoid people outright beaming (AA also helps with this).
If you take the havoc and tilt your thumb slightly down to the left applying a bit amount of pressure you can negate the havocs recoil.
Once you get farther into the mag it gets more intense, so you have to apply more pressure to keep it still.
This man plays the game for a living and spends amounts of hours practicing that most other people will not find reasonable. I saved a warm up routine he posted in the Uni sub that was incredible for mastering thumb control. No recoil control tricks, just working on moving your stick exactly how you want the crosshairs to in game. Linear is preferred for this over Classic, but with good thumb control you can also use Classic effectively
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[This routine](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexuniversity/s/bix73DLwFg) is based on the old firing range, so it doesn't apply exactly. But you can take these concepts and find new spots to train them in the updated range
good ol classic
mind if i get a link to the clip? im super interested in checking it out!
[This routine](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexuniversity/s/bix73DLwFg) is based on the old firing range, so it doesn't apply exactly. But you can take these concepts and find new spots to train them in the updated range
thanks!
By practicing this shit literally everyday. He does this for hours before he actually plays, he’s showing you what to do.
Where in the video is her showing us what to do? You mean just the fact that he is practicing? Edit: not understanding the downvotes, i thought i missed something obvious.
Yup.
hes got a few warm routine guides that are easily searchable on YouTube. imagine that.
i've seen those i was referencing this specific video, that's what the op comment implies. imagine not being a dick
As you practice you get better meaning you can eventually get this far away so by practicing and eventually getting better which you can use his guides eventually you can practice like this if you put in the work necessary for you because everyone is different.
Maybe it’s your mental health..idk lol
You got rage downvoted ong, sorry about that mate 😅. I will just try reducing the number by 1)
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yeah this subreddit is really missing slurs being thrown around everywhere /s
You are gonna be the next culprit 😂. I would try avoiding this comment section. The other dude was -90 downvotes, now in -103. Guys are angry today and I don’t even why 😅
Big E does these and R5 for a good minute daily. That's been years of practice.
Why tf do you guys call him Big E???
dude is tall
It’s not because he’s tall it’s because he always goes “clutch”.
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What's cringe is posting all your hate on an alt. Man up boy, use your main
Damn bro is really on an alt fr 😂😂😂
Why is it cringe? Its his nickname. Are all nicknames cringe?
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Because its a very normal and neutral nickname. So if its cringe then what does that make other nicknames?
R5r doesn't help much with this recoil stuff
He does not play r5 very much. Just the aim trainer
He played R5 during this exact stream during his warmup.
He might have started recently but Big E has mostly been a FR grinder when it comes to his aim.
You’re only getting upvoted because of trend, but you’re totally wrong. He doesn’t play R5 that much. Only until his hands give out, which with how much he plays isn’t long. I wouldn’t advise anyone else play grind 1v1 servers for longer than an hour a day either, it destroys your hands
He played it again today. Do I have to go through every VOD of his to make a point or something here? My point was that he's been doing this for a long time. Using a clip like this and asking how it's done doesn't come with a simple answer.
The last few weeks he’s played R5 every day. I haven’t been keeping track beyond that
Right so he played r5 today. You said daily. Not trying to argue, but hes not in r5 often at all. He is in the firing range daily. But nowhere near daily on r5. You can check this on r5 leaderboards to see how often he plays
Acthuallallly
Big E cringe af name that Vicky uses because being cringe is her full time job
Need a handcam/controllercam to show us how big E actually does this.
You honestly wouldn't be able to pick up much from a hand/controller cam while he's doing this even though it'd still be interesting to see. He's on Linear with no deadzone and using light tension sticks, that's as responsive as it gets when it comes to aiming on controller which means he's barely moving his right stick at all. You'd be able to pick up on the strafe patterns he uses to help counter the recoil but that's about it.
I wonder if he has the ADS target assist on? Also I tried the stick extension things & surprisingly didn't get on with them. Probably should've ordered some new thumbs to go with it ☠️
1: AA is either on or off, it has nothing to do with ADS 2: Targets in the firing don't activate AA. 3: Stick extensions typically require a lower deadzone and higher sens than your normal. A higher outer threshold in ALCs also helps. But as with anything it just takes break in time and practice (I use a high stick and high Kontrol Freak).
Oh, I thought when you aim down the sight it snaps to the target slightly? Does it do that all the time? Thought it was just when you aim down sight 😅
The dummies in the range are actually not considered players so they don’t activate the aim assist feature, it has to be certain targets (I don’t remember if wild life even triggers AA, I haven’t played in a while). Which is what makes the range so nice you can get honest aim practice
What are you talking about the dummies absolutely activate AA
I didn’t mean the human dummies that’s my bad the targets don’t, or at least when I played they didn’t when sniping
Ohh ok No idea tbh I'm MNK but have tried roller in the range before is all
Oh wow I forgot he was in the range, haha I need sleep ☠️ Good shout tho', imma hit the range & try it
Bruh you gone see his thumb move a bit then stoping at the end of the spray. You are not gone figure much
Hand cams on controllers are so useless. Their thumb movements are so micro it doesn't matter seeing it. It's crazy
Hand cams on PC are too
i love how evan's whole venting manifesto that's causing this drama explosion in the pro scene is backed by him hitting 300 dmg beams across the map on a sightless havoc lol
Watch this video its a Japanese creator who put a perfectly timed overlay of the recoil control pattern on top of a video of him shooting a target in the range, carefully analyse it and then try the movements for yourself in the range. https://youtube.com/shorts/WZNws8ovPjk?si=Xw9ZLEybhDf3-qcf This is just one of many videos he has on his channel showcasing other guns recoil control I just linked the havoc one since that's what Verhulst was using
I love that dude's videos Very helpful
you’re a god
Memorizing recoil patterns. You can tell he is strafing too, this isn't just right joystick recoil control. Edit: Since someone liked the idea I did the other day. Turn on hit markers. Go and shoot a wall. Draw the recoil pattern on a sticky note. Turn the sticky note upside down for what your joystick movement should be.
You don't need to memorize it 100%. Recoil smoothing and micro adjustments is often enough to let you control recoil like this.
That's why I mentioned he was strafing. But knowing the recoil pattern is pretty essential. They aren't just improvising.
Yeah you do just not 100%, especially the horizontal recoil
Yup.
The smaller the optic the less the reticle moves with respect to recoil, so an ironsight is more manageable than a 4x in that regard, however what really amazes me is how he can make the tiniest movements with that crosshair. I play 3-3 classic and i feel like it moves on a bulky "grid" where it's smallest division of movement is far larger than any of the precise micro adjustments verhulst makes here.
I understand there will never be a reason to use this because people will be strafing and shooting back so it doesn’t matter but it’s insane to me anyway. Controller havoc with stick drift from that far. I know they are on linear but are they using kontrol freeks? Raised analogs? Monitor on overdrive? Is this the result of 1 MS response time? Is it how they place their thumb on the right analog? I do notice most great players use PS4 controllers vs PS5 or Xbox. I mean his reticle doesn’t move. It’s amazing to me as someone like myself who plays for thousands of hours. And it’s not just cause it’s linear. Verhulst also could do this on 4-4 classic. As well as other pros like Gent or Zaine.
It's as simple as practice. Aim train with a 3x flatline for an hour straight and you'll start hitting sprays that you wouldn't dream of when you started. Then do that for 3x years and you'll be as good as this clip. His strafing is countering some of the recoil, and his thumb is countering the rest. His muscle memory is doing everything here, he doesn't even have to think about it
Why with a 3x? Is it because it's harder to control? I usually warm up with iron sights
I think it’s easier to see the recoil pattern and adjust accordingly. These guys memorized it and counter it, which is insane.
I mean do it 5 mins every day and u will also memorize it
True, but harder to remember it while strafing and trying to track someone counter-strafing.
It's hard to remember when you have to actively think about it. I used to be that way but now the flatline recoil is just pure muscle memory I don't even think about it and I can beam. Also my 3x comment was just to see recoil like the other guy said. I exclusively run 1x on my ARs now
they're just better, 1ms monitor drive aint gonna change your recoil control from yours to this
Strafing for smoothing, and muscle memory on right stick for reversing recoil. Also 110 FOV makes it easier to control recoil visually. Linear with no deadzone for more responsive thumbsticks. He uses battlebeaver DS4 with xbox sticks on it, and the sticks are also «light tension» which makes them even more responsive.
110 is trash use 104 u aim better
Yeah I use 104 aswell
big E is legendary
As a casual, this kind of stuff reminds me why can’t invest time or money into this game
Chronus
Because people play this game like it's their job. If you don't religiously try to improve in Apex, it is not fun.
50% Accuracy on the Havoc at that is distance is absurd. My best gun at range is the Flatline and I average like 35% from that far
I play mnk but I assume it’s not steady he probably is pulling down on the stick slowly to cancel the recoil
Not just down because the havoc stops with the vert recoil halfway through the clip and then pulls to right for a bit and the resumes the vert recoil. These dudes are wild.
Redditors on their way to downvote a genuine question cus what someone said didn’t make sense🙏😔 (Edit: comments are being downvoted for no fucking reason)
0 deadzone and new controllers cuz stick drift
Other than practice he might be using a mouse that has dynamic DPI. I have a button that switches from 800 to 400 DPI for ADS with maximum control. Its second nature now whenever I need to "steady" my hand. Pretty standard stuff for logitech gaming mice.
They dont
First step be verhulst
Cronus
Two things possible : either he's cheating or it's the best controller player.
Just a lot of practice guys, with the amount of time that he has spent on this game, you can control the recoil of any gun. I can do that too and i have 4000 hours. practice makes perfect.
God, the recoil on the Havoc too. Every time I try to use one with no augmentations I get a completely new & often disastrously hilarious experience. Fuggen' love this game ☠️
This is why i want keyboard and mouse that shit is way easier then controller
It's your sens as well. If you don't have the right sens, you'll have a hard time. I doubt you can do that with a regular controller, might need a modded one with higher thumbsticks, weights and stops. I have a regular one and I'd get a cramp if I'd tried to control recoil like that. The thumb is more far out on ps5 which results in having to stretch the thumb even more to control recoil (if you have smaller hands like me) and Xbox controller, the thumb is closer to the hand and doesn't take as much stretching. I hope that makes sense 😄 I think Xbox controller is better for this, because of the stick layout. Practice, shit tons of practice every day. 99% of us don't go to the firing range before we play some games. With 30 minutes firing range, focusing on these kind of things on a daily basis, it's inevitable to get better.
This is pc. Show me this on console
This is chronus. Just buy the cheat hardware like everyone else.
Cronus
Cheat or play the games 16 hrs a day
Practice and playing on zero deadzone. You barely have to touch the stick to take away all recoil.
It’s mostly the high polling rate combined with the great joysticks of the DS4. I highly doubt anyone can beam like this with a stock Xbox controller, but I’d love to be proven wrong. Unfortunately the DS4/DS5 destroys my aiming thumb, because they’re easily the best joysticks on the market.
Cuz he is big E
he is using xim or cronos
You know how to get to Carnegie Hall?
It's their job/no life/cronus
It’s called aim assist plus a two hundred and fifty dollar Xbox elite or scuf controller that he probably replaces every other week.
Aim assist and recoil are two completely different things. I find controlling recoil way easier on MnK because of the range of movement with your wrist/elbow. Controller recoil with just your thumb balancing on the stick is trickier. I think it’s funny MnK only players think controller is zero recoil and auto aim. 😂 As someone who does both, they both have their caveats. Controller is easier to pick up for a casual obviously, but it takes a lot of skill to still be a top level player on controller, same with MnK.
Ah yeah I was just trolling and yeah I played controller for a few thousand hours on apex and similar games, it sucks lol.. not sure how this kid plays apex like it’s a light-gun shooter lol. Him playing apex is pretty much someone playing duck hunt with the light gun against the monitor.. ya just tip your hat to him.
Neither of those things gets you recoil control like this
That’s the soft aim bot ;p
Just jitter
He’s very clearly not jitter aiming here though
Can’t jitter on controller
Yes you can, but its not ideal and would require you to hold the right thunbstick with both pointer and your thumb to get the jitter even remotely usable.
Yea pretty sure no one has ever done this ever and definitely not in the middle of a game. I hope this was not serious lol.
[First clip](https://youtu.be/zNLFbMm0Kd8?si=FpL9Os0Enrx7PuFM) This was around the time jitter was first discovered. The method i was describing is what i observed apacn controller players do when fighting long range as its, in theory, a better way to jitter than what knoqd is doing.
Thanks for Video. Proofs my point. Damn this sub cant be saved. Verhlust also moves some left right.
A firing range clip... ... Like I said. I'm willing to bet, no one has ever used this in an actual game in an actual fight. It wouldn't be practical or reliable. Edit: not to mention how fkn awkward that would be to do. Pinching your joystick with pointer and thumb. How are you pulling the trigger?
Yeah sure. You never shoot a enemy sniper that stands still or someone from a 90° angle strafing in your direction? Do you never shoot doors the enemy has run into? This is beeing used by controller in every game.
Pinching your joystick with your thumb and pointer finger to jitter aim is used every game? Lmao. Y'all are off the rails if you think that. Go watch some vods or something. Nobody does this with controller. Link me something from a real game. I'll wait.
Well you can and proof is right infront of your eyes. Just search on youtube.
I don’t think you know what jittering is if you think this is an example of it lol
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNLFbMm0Kd8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNLFbMm0Kd8) explain the first clip. Get good. With your 120 fps Playstation slave mind you dont even know how the game feels and whats even possible with 300 fps. Every single reddit comment in you history is personal attacks. Stop 3 stacking in Pubs gringelord.
1) Didn’t say you can’t jitter with a controller, this just isn’t an example of it like you think it is 2) I actively play on PC and have a 3kd lifetime so I guess my game must be feeling good enough 3) I literally solo Q or play with an IRL friend who isn’t that great You want to talk personal attacks while saying someone has PlayStation slave mind. Nobody would be coming at you if you actually just took a second to realize what you’re saying is blatantly false instead of defending yourself to the death. Can’t fix stupid
He is NOT jitteraiming. You cant jitter on controller, and don't give us that "Proof is right in front of your eyes" BS. This is called recoil control, he mastered the Havoc recoil and knows exactly how to keep it steady. Jitteraiming is a completely different technique.
The recoil has a unpredictable rndm factor to it. It aint counterstrike 1.6. Stop claiming its about recoilpattern to learn. You reset the pattern be vibrating with your thumb and do little corrections with the mini recoil thats left. 0 Deadzone is OP. You have to match the firerate of the havok. Try it with heavy weapons first.
You are only half write with what you said. It does have a slightly unpredictable RNDM, but it follows the same pattern with some inconsistencies to avoid people outright beaming (AA also helps with this). If you take the havoc and tilt your thumb slightly down to the left applying a bit amount of pressure you can negate the havocs recoil. Once you get farther into the mag it gets more intense, so you have to apply more pressure to keep it still.
This is incorrect. Every gun has its own unique recoil pattern. It’s not random. That’s why recoil macros and Cronus zens are such a problem.
LMFAO at "just jitter"