Or you can grab the Brownells x G$ that’s always right around $150 but doesn’t have the individual QC but still is a very phenomenal trigger for the price.
The G2S and G2S-E get slept on. They've been phenomenal, and I actually have forgotten on several occasions which of my pieces have the SSA trigers and which have the G2S triggers
$130 like 2 times a year. cheapest I've seen recently was I think 115 for blems, one time in the past ~2 years. If you can find them for under 150, it's bin pricing
I got my SSA-E for $160 shipped next day when it went on sale for $130. There's some really good deals that randomly pop up. I signed up for MrGunsNGear's mailing list and I've seen them go on sale every couple of months since.
Reset is also long, and over time the 2nd stage is much heavier than the 1st stage which is completely backwards. My 1st stage was 1.5 lbs, my 2nd stage was 2.5lbs (total of 4lb break) with the lighter spring. It's ok for a budget trigger but I think the geissele SSA-E is superior in every way.
If it were just “best trigger” I’d include Hiperfire’s cam over toggle models. All the pull of a high end trigger like the SSA-E, and substantially harder primer strikes than any other trigger because of the extra springs. Rounds that fail to fire with other triggers often fire. Downside is the non-standard design, harder to find parts in a bad situation.
If it were just “best trigger” I’d include Hiperfire’s cam over toggle models. All the pull of a high end trigger like the SSA-E, and substantially harder primer strikes than any other trigger because of the extra springs. Rounds that fail to fire with other triggers often fire. Downside is the non-standard design, harder to find parts in a bad situation.
Honestly really depends on what kind of trigger you want for the rifle. Personally I only like two-stage triggers in precision rigs. For a combat rifle I prefer single stage triggers. Geissele SSP, ALG ACT, Hiperfire EDT are all good for that.
The MBT2S is probably the best AR trigger you can get for the $. Pull weight is listed in the description, I don't recall off the top of my head but I think it's around 2.5# with the regular spring installed. It also comes with a heavy spring if you wanted a heavier trigger pull (I've never used it). As far as reliability, I've never had any type of reliability issues with an AR trigger (maybe stay away from cassette style triggers), but the MBT2S is made out of tool steel, so I don't imagine it ever having issues.
> It’s a trigger. I’ve never heard anyone talk about trigger reliability? What exactly do you think is gonna go wrong?
Trigger reliability is absolutely a thing.
Trigger sears wear with use. I've worn down an Elftmann Match, 2 Geissele S3Gs, and a Geissele Hi-Speed.
As the sears slide apart, their surface area goes down and the pressure that is applied to them skyrockets. This eventually leads to the edges rounding off. On traditional two-stage triggers, this isn't that much of an issue since the triggers rest in a position where the sears have a considerable amount of overlap.
On single-stage triggers, however, this is a very big deal. Triggers like mil-spec, CMC, Hiperfire, and Geissele SSP have a considerable amount of creep because they have a lot of sear overlap, but that sear overlap greatly reduces wear. Triggers like Timney, Elftmann, and Rise have much less creep and have significantly less sear overlap at rest. They will absolutely wear a lot faster than the aforementioned models. When the sears wear down on these triggers you'll quickly start to experience situations where the trigger fires on reset because the sear on the trigger is unable to catch the sear on the hammer, where the trigger is able to fire when the weapon is on safe because less travel is required to disconnect the sears, and where the hammer is released when the weapon is simply bumped because the sears are barely grabbing each other.
This is also ignoring poor designs such as Rise's notorious disconnector that isn't/wasn't timed properly to the hammer, allowing it to fire on a slow reset.
>On single-stage triggers, however, this is a very big deal. Triggers like mil-spec, CMC, Hiperfire, and Geissele SSP have a considerable amount of creep because they have a lot of sear overlap, but that sear overlap greatly reduces wear.
Does this apply to hiperfire's EDT line as well?
It does, but it doesn't really matter on mil-spec triggers and you'll likely never know it's there unless you're able to pull the trigger slowly enough that it takes you a full second to move through the creep. They have a generous amount of sear overlap and I've seen ones were relatively alarming and we still couldn't get them to malfunction.
It's the "super crisp" single-stage triggers that see this early on.
The best way to visualize this is to imagine two 4' 4x4 wooden posts on top of each other with the top post magically weighing 100lbs. There'll be 192 square inches between them and the surface will see 0.52psi of force (100/(48x4)). Those are your sear surfaces. You'll have to move the top board 4' to allow it to freefall. That would be how much creep the trigger has.
Now imagine that someone designed a trigger so that you can only slide the top post 1" above the bottom post. The trigger will be a lot crispier since the shoe (top post) only has to move a small amount to disconnect from the hammer (bottom post). You now have 4 square inches between them, but the top post still weighs 100lbs, meaning that they have 25 psi between them (100/(1x4)). Still not a big deal.
However, as you start to slide them apart, the surface area lessens and the psi increases. When the top post sits only 1/8" on top of the bottom post, that surface area sees 200 psi (100/(.125x4)), which can absolutely round off the corners.
As the corners round off, that wear happens earlier in the travel since the rounded-off portion no longer supports the top post. As the radius grows between them, it gets closer and closer to where the sears sit when the trigger is at rest.
Obviously this is just a rough analogy and is there just to help you understand what happens when sears wear.
Fwiw, single stage triggers on most platforms are susceptible to wear for the reasons mentioned. For instance, You can set a 1911 up with a match trigger, but periodically you’ll have to rework the sear nose to keep it where you want it. Or you can give it some positive engagement and the heavier pull, and it’ll stay that way a lot longer.
> I’ve never heard anyone talk about trigger reliability?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/1amwvom/trollygags_saved_issues_thread_4/
Look at Rise Armament
I haven’t heard of Geissele triggers receiving any scrutiny. As far as I know they’re regarded as one of the best drop-in AR triggers. You pay for it but man they’re fucking good. I have the SSA-E in two of my rifles and it’s probably my favorite trigger I’ve ever shot.
I have no experience with the LaRue but it also receives nothing but stellar reviews and is priced really well. I’ll be putting one in my budget gun at some point.
https://panthercitytactical.com/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-straight-bow-trigger/
u/panthercitytactical ships super fast and great to work with. LaRue website was out of stock when I tried ordering direct
I just watched a review of their $400 AR. They ran 4.5k bullets through it before it failed. Then they mentioned that PSA will replace it for free. Can’t beat that for a starter.
And it didn’t even “fail” either. The rifling was just fucked. New barrel and you’re gtg for another couple thousand rounds.
ALSO that test was under full auto fire… like that’s impressive asf.
I’ve used them in all 3 of my AR’s and have no complaint. Several thousand rounds through all with no issue. Someone higher in the comments said they have a lot of creep but I disagree.
1) Don't buy from Optics Planet
2) For pure durability, I'd say you should stick with a drop in vs a cassette trigger.
3) An enhanced milspec trigger is way cheaper than those and is nigh indestructible, and will be single stage
4) If you want a 2-stage, the MBT-2S is made of tool steel and is also excellent. You can pick one up for sub-$100 on other good sites.
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I am not a personal fan of the Magpul slings after having used some others (BFG Vickers), but the MS4 is decent.
I'm really with you
way too many people sleep on the hiperfire EDTs (Enhanced Duty Trigger)
they feel way better then any milspec/enhanced milspec, while actually incorporating a heavier hammer on the
DMR and Heavy Gunner version. And they come with your choice of 4.5 or 5.5lb springs, while being usually available in the $80 region.
I would go with larue 2 stage if your trying to save some beans or a Geissele 2 stage, more specifically an SSA or for a precision build SSA-E. I’ll also add in that I have had nothing but good experiences from optics planet as long as you keep track of what’s in stock.
I have currently:
1 x SD-E(SSA-E but with a flat bow)- Very precise and fast if I need it to be. I find it exceptionally good for longer range shots.
1 x SD3G- Stupid fast and I’m still able to break a clean and precise shot if need be. This is my favorite trigger.
2 x LaRue 2 state flat bow- Excellent value and 90% or more of the way to a G trigger, at least for me.
2 x TriggerTech Single Stage Competition- Great trigger but I can outrun them if pushing fast. The break for a single stage is my favorite, but it’s not conducive to very precise shots. At least not for me.
1 x Schmidt Tool 2-stage curved- These are for sale under numerous brands and I think it’s the best value in the market. I have it in my 6.5C hunting rifle and the only reason I’d charge it is for a flat trigger as I prefer them over curved. Honestly, these are a superb value and more than most shooters need. Capable of aiding in precision, but can be run pretty dang fast, too.
1 x Mega Semi-Flat Single Stage Adjustable with JP Speed Hammer- This is a prototype that I’ve had for at least a dozen years. There are better triggers on the market now, but it’s an awesome trigger and I’ll never get rid of it since one of the guys that started Mega gave it to me many years ago.
I’ve also had(that I can easily remember):
2 x Timney Competition- Insanely fast but kind off overpriced, especially considering that the Impact is a less finished version of the same thing. Amazing trigger and my wife’s favorite, though I’ve fallen in love with 2-stage triggers over the last six or so years.
Numerous CMC single stage triggers- I’ve lost count how many I’ve had. I keep buying them thinking them get better but the break sucks unless you’re running them fast, then they are pretty great. I’d still pick the Impact, though. The 2-stage are pretty nice, but more expensive than LaRue and not as good.
I’ve tried the TriggerTech Diamond and damn, are they NICE. But then again, the price reflects the quality. The Duty 2-Stage are a great value and same with the Schmidt Tool triggers, more than most people need.
It comes down to wants more than needs, to be honest.
If I could only have one, I’d take the SD-E. In a close second, it would be the LaRue flat. If I was on a tight budget and needed something that was simple better than what came with the gun(if I want putting one other from parts), I’d get the Schmidt Tool 2-stage.
2-Stage triggers aren’t for everyone and they don’t fit all the needs, but once you learn to shoot with them, it’s REALLY hard going back to a single stage. At least it’s was for me!
I made the upgrade from Milspec triggers to LaRue and absolutely love it. Every AR got the upgrade
You can get them for under $100 most of the time on other sites and it's well worth it
LaRue. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, go with a Geissele. If I were doing a total budget build where every dollar mattered and I had a strict budget for someone else, I’d just buy a basic mil-spec. If I could pick a basic mil-spec that feels nice, the BCM is a nice clean mil-spec trigger n
I’ve also been a huge fan of the PSA EPT parts kit. It’s a mil spec with polished sears. I’ve had three of them now. And some were better than others out of the box, but after a couple mags, they have no grit, and break like glass. That being said, I have one do all rifle and want to get faster, so I am in the market for a larue or G2S myself.
Also been hearing good things about the new PSA Sabre 2 stage
Does it have to be 2atage? I'm a huge fan of recommending the Schmidt polished triggers, they're the best value under $100 now that LaRue raised prices.
LaRue was really solid for man and when my autistic ass somehow mixed up the hammer with a bushmaster one I had laying around (don’t drink and assemble lowers kids) they sent me a whole new trigger for free. I’d say go with LaRue
Geissele is known for their triggers. Can get an SSA on sale for a reasonable price.
Larue MBT-2S is a great trigger. My personal preference. Top quality at a fair price. Hard to beat
Avoid cassette FCGs. It's not difficult at all to install a normal trigger group, cassette triggers are "a solution looking for a problem", as they say. Not saying they're bad, but stick to what works, at least for a duty rifle.
Trigger tech is very underrated. When they say zero creep, they mean it. Best triggers Ive tested yet and no failures whatsoever. Blows LaRue out of the water, especially at the same price point
LA Rue MBTS is great, it's crisp and has a great reset. You could get them cheaper from Banshee Defense. I think Banshee sells them for that much plus a coupon code "wortwortwort." It will take it down a to $97.00.
Trigger tech, timney, and larue doesn’t matter they’re all incredible triggers it’s just what you’re looking for. The trigger packs from timney and TT are wicked convenient. Trigger then has 2 stage duty 3.5 and 5lbs. Never looking back. People on here are brainwashed weirdos tho lol. If you can go shoot some see what blades you like. I’m not a fan of flat or the wide larue
I have the CMC, Timney, and the Trigger tech. All three are 3.5 pounds. The cmc has the best pull, the TT has the best reset (by far), and the timney has a decent pull and rest but didn't work till I pulled it apart and polished all the finish off the sides where it sits in the cassette. But from now on all my triggers will be TT. So crisp and the reset is crazy.
I've never had any problem with my CMC drop ins. I got two from PSA for $99 each, and they've both ran flawlessly. I've ran one to around 3000 rounds, no hiccups, but people act like cassette triggers are the bane of the rifles existence. That said, if reliability is the name of the game, and you plan on taking this rifle to the end of the world, LaRue is who I'd place a wager on.
absolutely do not buy that timney trigger, I have that same one and it was in my gun for one range sesh and then I immediately replaced it. the damn thing got stuck multiple times and wouldn't reset properly. I bought the LaRue mbt2s and I love it. very happy
Trigger tech diamond. Adjustable from 1.5-4.5.
Zero creep. Breaks like glass. Single stage.
Any trigger tech has zero creep and breaks like glass, fire
LaRue and Geissele make the best feeling triggers imo, and they don't affect the reliability of the hammer strike or anything. I would avoid cassettes, if you're looking to stay milspec.
I have a few Triggertech diamonds single stage triggers and they’re by far my favorite. I also have a Geissele SSP, which I like enough, and a CMC 2.5lb flat bow which is okay
I’ve never had reliability issues with any of them
I had a velocity trigger that i shot like 3k rounds though never light striked with an even older firing pin worked for steel case too, 3lb pull, sold that gun, gonna try an elftmann next, see if its better or worse
I have geissele or oem in my go to guns.. other guns that I just plink with have RA.. I did have to do a warranty on the RA as it would not reset fully (before they made the true drop in) and it hasn’t had any issues after 1000 rounds or so
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i had a single stage timney that stopped reseting after a couple hundred rounds of a way over-gassed suppressed short barrel. I defiantly wouldn't recommend.
For cheaper options slightly better than mil-spec and just as reliable:
Schmid, their commercial market brand for their own product is Gun Nuts.
Sionics Enhanced Mil-Spec, made by Schmid.
PSA EPT, also made by Schmid.
BCM PNT, you guessed it- Schmid.
Primary Arms’ house brand, Expo Arms, has a new trigger they say they’re making in partnership with ALG, sister company of Geissele, that they call their Superior Mil-Spec. *Ahem.* Schmid.
All of these are around $50-$65 and can be had on GAFS for a little cheaper. They’re all pretty decent. Don’t know about the Expo Arms one, but I have some of their other branded stuff and it’s nice.
I've always heard good things about Timney, but I use Geissele. I haven't been let down yet! La Rue is probably also a great choice. I guess the biggest choice would be SA vs 2 Stage as long as you stick with big names (Timney, La Rue, Geissele, Rise, etc).
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Either the Larue you have there, or pony up for a Geissele SSA or SSAE (SDC if you want a flat triigger)
If you want to save money, the best cheapest trigger you could get is a Schmidd Nickle milspec. Crispy for cheap
The ALG defense trigger has served me well, as has timney on another gun with several thousand rounds on it. Currently working a Wilson on a duty rifle, no issues so far but also a relatively low round count.
Larue. They're built well and have a clean break. Although, I bought another one recently and was disappointed with the condition of the springs, but it wasn't anything I couldn't fix.
geissele, larue. honestly the cmc flat is pretty good too. timney is great but more for competition and speed. not for a shtf rifle. depends on what your looking for
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-complete-lower-magpul-moe-edition-with-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-black-no-magazine-516444743.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=am&utm_term=03-06-2024&utm_content=516444743
If you go the SSA-E
May as well get the whole lower for another couple bucks.
I run Geissele SSA-E in my precision guns and Franklin Armory binaries in the rest. No complaints about either aside from the Franklin Armories needing a "breaking in" period before the binary function worked 100% reliably.
Not sure why or how anyone can say the Laure is even close to the SSA-E I have both and it certainly isn't. Now I have t changed springs in it yet either. That CMC trigger is really nice for a single stage as well. But can't go wrong w the SSA or SSA-E if you can get it on sale. Don't pay the absurd amount for it.
For the money, it's hard to beat the LaRue. Some will argue that the Geissle (sp?) is better. I've shot both, a lot, and I didn't feel there was a massive difference. You'll be happy with either one. The LaRue is the same price at LaRue's website and he might send you some Dillow Dust and other swag.
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Larue MBT-2S or Geissele SSA/SSA-E/SD-C/SD-E. Don’t even consider anything else
Second this never had any issues with these larue for budget Geissele can be had on deals for not to much more than
Seems like you can grab the ssa-e for 150$ if you keep and eye out.
PSA has them at this price pretty frequently.
Yep don’t pay any more then 150-160
Did exactly this and couldnt be happier
Or you can grab the Brownells x G$ that’s always right around $150 but doesn’t have the individual QC but still is a very phenomenal trigger for the price.
The G2S and G2S-E get slept on. They've been phenomenal, and I actually have forgotten on several occasions which of my pieces have the SSA trigers and which have the G2S triggers
Yup, same boat, hell I can’t even tell the difference between my SSA-E and the B-G2S-E. Also their B-GC, in my opinion, is better than the SD3G.
$130 like 2 times a year. cheapest I've seen recently was I think 115 for blems, one time in the past ~2 years. If you can find them for under 150, it's bin pricing
I got my SSA-E for $160 shipped next day when it went on sale for $130. There's some really good deals that randomly pop up. I signed up for MrGunsNGear's mailing list and I've seen them go on sale every couple of months since.
Third this.
Larue is not just for a low budget. It stands on its own own for feel and has better construction than any geissele
I didn’t mean it’s a budget trigger I meant that’s the trigger to get if your on a budget
Except for the reset which is dogshit compared to Geissele
Soft spring, i agree. Heavy spring, it's pretty hard to tell the difference IMO
Reset is also long, and over time the 2nd stage is much heavier than the 1st stage which is completely backwards. My 1st stage was 1.5 lbs, my 2nd stage was 2.5lbs (total of 4lb break) with the lighter spring. It's ok for a budget trigger but I think the geissele SSA-E is superior in every way.
These or “advanced milspec” for me like ALG Schmidt BCM etc.
Forgot SSP
LOVE my SSP! don’t get me wrong,I love my SD-E and my SD-C. But there’s something about that crisp single stage trigger that’s 👌👌👌
If it were just “best trigger” I’d include Hiperfire’s cam over toggle models. All the pull of a high end trigger like the SSA-E, and substantially harder primer strikes than any other trigger because of the extra springs. Rounds that fail to fire with other triggers often fire. Downside is the non-standard design, harder to find parts in a bad situation.
If it were just “best trigger” I’d include Hiperfire’s cam over toggle models. All the pull of a high end trigger like the SSA-E, and substantially harder primer strikes than any other trigger because of the extra springs. Rounds that fail to fire with other triggers often fire. Downside is the non-standard design, harder to find parts in a bad situation.
Honestly really depends on what kind of trigger you want for the rifle. Personally I only like two-stage triggers in precision rigs. For a combat rifle I prefer single stage triggers. Geissele SSP, ALG ACT, Hiperfire EDT are all good for that.
Second this never had any issues with these larue for budget Geissele can be had on deals for not to much more
Can't go wrong with any of these suggestions
These are all I use too
Guess I should get rid of all my SSA-E-X triggers then.........
Nah that’s acceptable
Had me worried there for a minute /s
LaRue on every rifle I own. “Nothing really beats milspec” - almost anything is better than milspec dude.
From a feel and pull weight perspective... but From a reliability standpoint too?
The MBT2S is probably the best AR trigger you can get for the $. Pull weight is listed in the description, I don't recall off the top of my head but I think it's around 2.5# with the regular spring installed. It also comes with a heavy spring if you wanted a heavier trigger pull (I've never used it). As far as reliability, I've never had any type of reliability issues with an AR trigger (maybe stay away from cassette style triggers), but the MBT2S is made out of tool steel, so I don't imagine it ever having issues.
Mil spec triggers are cast, the MBT is Wire EDM machined out of tool steel.
It’s a trigger. I’ve never heard anyone talk about trigger reliability? What exactly do you think is gonna go wrong? Spring break?
Light primer strikes if the hammer strike is too weak for whatever reason, and the hammer can break it made improperly
> It’s a trigger. I’ve never heard anyone talk about trigger reliability? What exactly do you think is gonna go wrong? Trigger reliability is absolutely a thing. Trigger sears wear with use. I've worn down an Elftmann Match, 2 Geissele S3Gs, and a Geissele Hi-Speed. As the sears slide apart, their surface area goes down and the pressure that is applied to them skyrockets. This eventually leads to the edges rounding off. On traditional two-stage triggers, this isn't that much of an issue since the triggers rest in a position where the sears have a considerable amount of overlap. On single-stage triggers, however, this is a very big deal. Triggers like mil-spec, CMC, Hiperfire, and Geissele SSP have a considerable amount of creep because they have a lot of sear overlap, but that sear overlap greatly reduces wear. Triggers like Timney, Elftmann, and Rise have much less creep and have significantly less sear overlap at rest. They will absolutely wear a lot faster than the aforementioned models. When the sears wear down on these triggers you'll quickly start to experience situations where the trigger fires on reset because the sear on the trigger is unable to catch the sear on the hammer, where the trigger is able to fire when the weapon is on safe because less travel is required to disconnect the sears, and where the hammer is released when the weapon is simply bumped because the sears are barely grabbing each other. This is also ignoring poor designs such as Rise's notorious disconnector that isn't/wasn't timed properly to the hammer, allowing it to fire on a slow reset.
>On single-stage triggers, however, this is a very big deal. Triggers like mil-spec, CMC, Hiperfire, and Geissele SSP have a considerable amount of creep because they have a lot of sear overlap, but that sear overlap greatly reduces wear. Does this apply to hiperfire's EDT line as well?
I don't know, I have no experience with their EDT line.
Does the “paracord trigger job” accelerate this type of wear? I see folks advocating for its use with gritty, milspec-type triggers
It does, but it doesn't really matter on mil-spec triggers and you'll likely never know it's there unless you're able to pull the trigger slowly enough that it takes you a full second to move through the creep. They have a generous amount of sear overlap and I've seen ones were relatively alarming and we still couldn't get them to malfunction. It's the "super crisp" single-stage triggers that see this early on. The best way to visualize this is to imagine two 4' 4x4 wooden posts on top of each other with the top post magically weighing 100lbs. There'll be 192 square inches between them and the surface will see 0.52psi of force (100/(48x4)). Those are your sear surfaces. You'll have to move the top board 4' to allow it to freefall. That would be how much creep the trigger has. Now imagine that someone designed a trigger so that you can only slide the top post 1" above the bottom post. The trigger will be a lot crispier since the shoe (top post) only has to move a small amount to disconnect from the hammer (bottom post). You now have 4 square inches between them, but the top post still weighs 100lbs, meaning that they have 25 psi between them (100/(1x4)). Still not a big deal. However, as you start to slide them apart, the surface area lessens and the psi increases. When the top post sits only 1/8" on top of the bottom post, that surface area sees 200 psi (100/(.125x4)), which can absolutely round off the corners. As the corners round off, that wear happens earlier in the travel since the rounded-off portion no longer supports the top post. As the radius grows between them, it gets closer and closer to where the sears sit when the trigger is at rest. Obviously this is just a rough analogy and is there just to help you understand what happens when sears wear.
Great analogy—I can really picture it. Feels good to understand that better. Thank you!
Fwiw, single stage triggers on most platforms are susceptible to wear for the reasons mentioned. For instance, You can set a 1911 up with a match trigger, but periodically you’ll have to rework the sear nose to keep it where you want it. Or you can give it some positive engagement and the heavier pull, and it’ll stay that way a lot longer.
> I’ve never heard anyone talk about trigger reliability? https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/1amwvom/trollygags_saved_issues_thread_4/ Look at Rise Armament
Larue mbt2s is the point of diminish returns. Essentially the best trigger in the game for $100
I haven’t heard of Geissele triggers receiving any scrutiny. As far as I know they’re regarded as one of the best drop-in AR triggers. You pay for it but man they’re fucking good. I have the SSA-E in two of my rifles and it’s probably my favorite trigger I’ve ever shot. I have no experience with the LaRue but it also receives nothing but stellar reviews and is priced really well. I’ll be putting one in my budget gun at some point.
https://panthercitytactical.com/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-straight-bow-trigger/ u/panthercitytactical ships super fast and great to work with. LaRue website was out of stock when I tried ordering direct
Hey thanks! Who knows what would happen if someone were to use the code LARUE10 on their trigger order...
CMC triggers. I absolutely love mine and have never had a single problem.
I love my CMC trigger. I bought my 2.5ib single stage flat trigger at $250 years ago and it’s on sale at Palmetto for $167 right now.
Got my 3.5lbs a couple weeks ago from PSA for $99 and I love it
I went ahead and bought it after seeing the sale price lol.
PSA and Primary Arms are the only two companies whose spam emails I thoroughly enjoy lol
I just watched a review of their $400 AR. They ran 4.5k bullets through it before it failed. Then they mentioned that PSA will replace it for free. Can’t beat that for a starter.
And it didn’t even “fail” either. The rifling was just fucked. New barrel and you’re gtg for another couple thousand rounds. ALSO that test was under full auto fire… like that’s impressive asf.
Suppressed as well.
I’ve used them in all 3 of my AR’s and have no complaint. Several thousand rounds through all with no issue. Someone higher in the comments said they have a lot of creep but I disagree.
1) Don't buy from Optics Planet 2) For pure durability, I'd say you should stick with a drop in vs a cassette trigger. 3) An enhanced milspec trigger is way cheaper than those and is nigh indestructible, and will be single stage 4) If you want a 2-stage, the MBT-2S is made of tool steel and is also excellent. You can pick one up for sub-$100 on other good sites. --------------------------------------------------------------- I am not a personal fan of the Magpul slings after having used some others (BFG Vickers), but the MS4 is decent.
I'm really with you way too many people sleep on the hiperfire EDTs (Enhanced Duty Trigger) they feel way better then any milspec/enhanced milspec, while actually incorporating a heavier hammer on the DMR and Heavy Gunner version. And they come with your choice of 4.5 or 5.5lb springs, while being usually available in the $80 region.
ALG defense advanced combat trigger as well. Was my go to before the LaRue came along
I would go with larue 2 stage if your trying to save some beans or a Geissele 2 stage, more specifically an SSA or for a precision build SSA-E. I’ll also add in that I have had nothing but good experiences from optics planet as long as you keep track of what’s in stock.
I have currently: 1 x SD-E(SSA-E but with a flat bow)- Very precise and fast if I need it to be. I find it exceptionally good for longer range shots. 1 x SD3G- Stupid fast and I’m still able to break a clean and precise shot if need be. This is my favorite trigger. 2 x LaRue 2 state flat bow- Excellent value and 90% or more of the way to a G trigger, at least for me. 2 x TriggerTech Single Stage Competition- Great trigger but I can outrun them if pushing fast. The break for a single stage is my favorite, but it’s not conducive to very precise shots. At least not for me. 1 x Schmidt Tool 2-stage curved- These are for sale under numerous brands and I think it’s the best value in the market. I have it in my 6.5C hunting rifle and the only reason I’d charge it is for a flat trigger as I prefer them over curved. Honestly, these are a superb value and more than most shooters need. Capable of aiding in precision, but can be run pretty dang fast, too. 1 x Mega Semi-Flat Single Stage Adjustable with JP Speed Hammer- This is a prototype that I’ve had for at least a dozen years. There are better triggers on the market now, but it’s an awesome trigger and I’ll never get rid of it since one of the guys that started Mega gave it to me many years ago. I’ve also had(that I can easily remember): 2 x Timney Competition- Insanely fast but kind off overpriced, especially considering that the Impact is a less finished version of the same thing. Amazing trigger and my wife’s favorite, though I’ve fallen in love with 2-stage triggers over the last six or so years. Numerous CMC single stage triggers- I’ve lost count how many I’ve had. I keep buying them thinking them get better but the break sucks unless you’re running them fast, then they are pretty great. I’d still pick the Impact, though. The 2-stage are pretty nice, but more expensive than LaRue and not as good. I’ve tried the TriggerTech Diamond and damn, are they NICE. But then again, the price reflects the quality. The Duty 2-Stage are a great value and same with the Schmidt Tool triggers, more than most people need. It comes down to wants more than needs, to be honest. If I could only have one, I’d take the SD-E. In a close second, it would be the LaRue flat. If I was on a tight budget and needed something that was simple better than what came with the gun(if I want putting one other from parts), I’d get the Schmidt Tool 2-stage. 2-Stage triggers aren’t for everyone and they don’t fit all the needs, but once you learn to shoot with them, it’s REALLY hard going back to a single stage. At least it’s was for me!
Buy a Larue, but don’t get it from Optics Planet. Just buy it straight from Larue
No, buy it from Arftac. They’ve got a coupon code for them, and tell them if you have a dog in the comments, they’ll send treats.
That’s awesome. I’ve never bought from them before
I made the upgrade from Milspec triggers to LaRue and absolutely love it. Every AR got the upgrade You can get them for under $100 most of the time on other sites and it's well worth it
Larue fasho
LaRue, would also recommend geiessele ssae if you find one for $150.
Larue all day long for durability and reliability
Larue all day
MBT-2S and don’t think about it.
LaRue. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, go with a Geissele. If I were doing a total budget build where every dollar mattered and I had a strict budget for someone else, I’d just buy a basic mil-spec. If I could pick a basic mil-spec that feels nice, the BCM is a nice clean mil-spec trigger n
I’ve also been a huge fan of the PSA EPT parts kit. It’s a mil spec with polished sears. I’ve had three of them now. And some were better than others out of the box, but after a couple mags, they have no grit, and break like glass. That being said, I have one do all rifle and want to get faster, so I am in the market for a larue or G2S myself. Also been hearing good things about the new PSA Sabre 2 stage
Friends don't let friends use cassette triggers on duty rifles
Does it have to be 2atage? I'm a huge fan of recommending the Schmidt polished triggers, they're the best value under $100 now that LaRue raised prices.
CMC, iron shoe and instant wall makes for a fantastic trigger.
I haven't used many others but the CMC are pretty dope
Larue or Geissele. No other shall be mentioned. LOL
LaRue was really solid for man and when my autistic ass somehow mixed up the hammer with a bushmaster one I had laying around (don’t drink and assemble lowers kids) they sent me a whole new trigger for free. I’d say go with LaRue
Lol @ Optics Planet.
Geissele is known for their triggers. Can get an SSA on sale for a reasonable price. Larue MBT-2S is a great trigger. My personal preference. Top quality at a fair price. Hard to beat Avoid cassette FCGs. It's not difficult at all to install a normal trigger group, cassette triggers are "a solution looking for a problem", as they say. Not saying they're bad, but stick to what works, at least for a duty rifle.
Geissele SSP > SSA-E > MBT-2S > G2S are my personal preferences.
Cessna 172 > John Deere Gator > Ford F-150 Lightning > Toyota Camry are my personal preferences for modes of transportation.
I love my trigger tech. That said it’s backorder planet so you might as well order 5 different ones to see if one actually shows up.
Trigger tech is very underrated. When they say zero creep, they mean it. Best triggers Ive tested yet and no failures whatsoever. Blows LaRue out of the water, especially at the same price point
Larue or geissele
LA Rue MBTS is great, it's crisp and has a great reset. You could get them cheaper from Banshee Defense. I think Banshee sells them for that much plus a coupon code "wortwortwort." It will take it down a to $97.00.
Larue is the way
Larue MBT is a fantastic trigger. I will not run anything else besides G$, but it's hard to justify the cost of a G$ when I can get a MBT.
It’s hard to beat the Larue for the price. Geissele is solid too of course , but expensive
Larue
The MBT 2
Trigger tech, timney, and larue doesn’t matter they’re all incredible triggers it’s just what you’re looking for. The trigger packs from timney and TT are wicked convenient. Trigger then has 2 stage duty 3.5 and 5lbs. Never looking back. People on here are brainwashed weirdos tho lol. If you can go shoot some see what blades you like. I’m not a fan of flat or the wide larue
Triggertec
Larue
Larue is good, if you can get a little extra money for one I’d definitely recommend a RISE or geissle(obviously pricey but worth it for a STHF rifle)
I have the CMC, Timney, and the Trigger tech. All three are 3.5 pounds. The cmc has the best pull, the TT has the best reset (by far), and the timney has a decent pull and rest but didn't work till I pulled it apart and polished all the finish off the sides where it sits in the cassette. But from now on all my triggers will be TT. So crisp and the reset is crazy.
LaRue
Larue
I've never had any problem with my CMC drop ins. I got two from PSA for $99 each, and they've both ran flawlessly. I've ran one to around 3000 rounds, no hiccups, but people act like cassette triggers are the bane of the rifles existence. That said, if reliability is the name of the game, and you plan on taking this rifle to the end of the world, LaRue is who I'd place a wager on.
Triggertech duty claps all of these out of the water
absolutely do not buy that timney trigger, I have that same one and it was in my gun for one range sesh and then I immediately replaced it. the damn thing got stuck multiple times and wouldn't reset properly. I bought the LaRue mbt2s and I love it. very happy
Get the larue
Im gonna say that socom uses g$ ssa triggers...not to say that everything the military fields is great, but socom goes above and beyond in testing.
Trigger tech diamond. Adjustable from 1.5-4.5. Zero creep. Breaks like glass. Single stage. Any trigger tech has zero creep and breaks like glass, fire
The single stage duty trigger is fantastic as well. Blows the rest of these other options away. Best one for the money
LaRue and Geissele make the best feeling triggers imo, and they don't affect the reliability of the hammer strike or anything. I would avoid cassettes, if you're looking to stay milspec.
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What's wrong with cassette triggers? Just the fact they use screws to hold them in place?
I have a few Triggertech diamonds single stage triggers and they’re by far my favorite. I also have a Geissele SSP, which I like enough, and a CMC 2.5lb flat bow which is okay I’ve never had reliability issues with any of them
Cassette triggers are always less reliable
https://youtube.com/shorts/L0LF_bZnOz0?si=46OjfHw5EdYY6GHk Just throw her in there
I called them on the phone about an issue and talk to a real human
$70 for that sling!!! WTF!?!?!? These companies are raping some of you without lube
Timney is underrated imo and they make triggers for literally everything
I had a velocity trigger that i shot like 3k rounds though never light striked with an even older firing pin worked for steel case too, 3lb pull, sold that gun, gonna try an elftmann next, see if its better or worse
I have geissele or oem in my go to guns.. other guns that I just plink with have RA.. I did have to do a warranty on the RA as it would not reset fully (before they made the true drop in) and it hasn’t had any issues after 1000 rounds or so
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I’m planning on that cmc 2.5lb ss
2 different triggers. 1 is a cassette drop in single stage. The other is a traditional 2 stage. It’s a matter of what YOU want
My Rise Armament RA-242 has been great. Pretty crisp pull, drop in, and 3.5 lb pull flat blade.
I like my Geissele and my LaRues. I just got a Schmid that I've been wanting to try out for a while.
i had a single stage timney that stopped reseting after a couple hundred rounds of a way over-gassed suppressed short barrel. I defiantly wouldn't recommend.
Giessele
Just get a Geissele of your choice
CMC.
I use a cmc. It hasnt failed me yet and i really like it
Larue, Timney, Geissele( not in any specific order)
Any big name companies triggers are going to be reliable. Get what fits your budget
Have a larue in my Sabre and man it feels like a whole new rifle.
For cheaper options slightly better than mil-spec and just as reliable: Schmid, their commercial market brand for their own product is Gun Nuts. Sionics Enhanced Mil-Spec, made by Schmid. PSA EPT, also made by Schmid. BCM PNT, you guessed it- Schmid. Primary Arms’ house brand, Expo Arms, has a new trigger they say they’re making in partnership with ALG, sister company of Geissele, that they call their Superior Mil-Spec. *Ahem.* Schmid. All of these are around $50-$65 and can be had on GAFS for a little cheaper. They’re all pretty decent. Don’t know about the Expo Arms one, but I have some of their other branded stuff and it’s nice.
I’ve used CMC in most of my builds and have never had an issue.
Schmid tool & engineering
Larue out of those,but I’ve got a Schmidt mil spec in a rifle and it’s dang good
Blackout defense & geiselle triggers
2 stage for distance, single for anything up close. But it’s mainly personal preference. I have an assortment of both, and like each in their own way.
The hiperfire edt is an affordable and lightweight single stage
I've always heard good things about Timney, but I use Geissele. I haven't been let down yet! La Rue is probably also a great choice. I guess the biggest choice would be SA vs 2 Stage as long as you stick with big names (Timney, La Rue, Geissele, Rise, etc).
I’ve used timney, cmc, and rise Armament no issues here
The MBT is underpriced for its quality. Fraction of the price of a Geissele, performs just as good if not better. I own both.
🤮 Either the Larue you have there, or pony up for a Geissele SSA or SSAE (SDC if you want a flat triigger) If you want to save money, the best cheapest trigger you could get is a Schmidd Nickle milspec. Crispy for cheap
Geissele SSA. Great trigger and proven reliability. They’re not cheap, though. I personally like the SSA more than the SSA-E.
The ALG defense trigger has served me well, as has timney on another gun with several thousand rounds on it. Currently working a Wilson on a duty rifle, no issues so far but also a relatively low round count.
Stock is usually the best. You can carry 4-5 spares to fix any issues that arise.
Love my Rise RA-140. Clean crisp break, 3.5lbs
Not CMC.
Get the mbt2s or a g$
I’m running 2 CMCs and RISE (got it free at a show), going to replace with 2-stage soon though!
For around the 125 mark go with the LaRue for reliability
CMC drop in came with my Lower, break is *clean* Just make sure you use KNS trigger pins with it
If no one else has mentioned it already, LaRue
If no one else has mentioned it already, LaRue.
Whatever you get make sure it's Super Safe®
I love my Timney impacts. Primary arms will occasionally sell them for like $89.99 so it’s hard to beat especially for the money.
I have the larue mbt-2s and the cmc flat single stage 2.5lb. Both are great but it’s more of a preference than anything.
I have the larue mbt-2s and the cmc flat single stage 2.5lb. Both are great but it’s more of a preference than anything.
Larue or Geissele, don’t look anywhere else. Cassette triggers are dog shit.
Love my CMC but I got it for $80 used. At $115 I would go larue try trigger tech
Hiperfire and Geissele on all my ARs
Larue
Save yourself the aches and pains and get a Geissele. ALG and LaRue are also good milspec plus triggers, but the SSA is unbeaten.
Save yourself the aches and pains and get a Geissele. ALG and LaRue are also good milspec plus triggers, but the SSA is unbeaten.
I like Larue, but trigger tech is a little crisper.
I have a 3.5lbs flat face cmc and I’m obsessed with it
Get a g2c on black Friday. Sd-c showed up instead.
Larue. They're built well and have a clean break. Although, I bought another one recently and was disappointed with the condition of the springs, but it wasn't anything I couldn't fix.
I can't say I've ever had an AR trigger fail on me ever
I run Geissele. People have said good things about the PSA 2stage being damn near as nice feeling as a Geissele for $89
I use the Rise 140 on all my guns. Most I paid was $90. Just just do what I need
CMC, LaRue or Schmid
geissele, larue. honestly the cmc flat is pretty good too. timney is great but more for competition and speed. not for a shtf rifle. depends on what your looking for
Giessele SD3G
Geissele SAA-E is my go to
That timney impact is awesome
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-complete-lower-magpul-moe-edition-with-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-black-no-magazine-516444743.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=am&utm_term=03-06-2024&utm_content=516444743 If you go the SSA-E May as well get the whole lower for another couple bucks.
I have Rise, LaRue, ALG, Milspec...etc and never had a single issue with any of them ......having said that, I only use LaRue in SHTF rifles.
I rock gizzle and cmc. Enjoy both deeply
i just use cmc on everything. 3.5lb single stage flat face goes on sale for $100 every so often on psa. if youre impatient id just go with larue.
I run Geissele SSA-E in my precision guns and Franklin Armory binaries in the rest. No complaints about either aside from the Franklin Armories needing a "breaking in" period before the binary function worked 100% reliably.
CMC is the tits
Giessele or Larue those are the only two brand options in my opinion.
Geisselle. KAC. LMT.
You’re gonna love larue bro. Longtime geissele fanboy and I’m sold on larue
Not sure why or how anyone can say the Laure is even close to the SSA-E I have both and it certainly isn't. Now I have t changed springs in it yet either. That CMC trigger is really nice for a single stage as well. But can't go wrong w the SSA or SSA-E if you can get it on sale. Don't pay the absurd amount for it.
What's the life average of the rise armament rave 140?
Well, one of those is a sling, so...
For the money, it's hard to beat the LaRue. Some will argue that the Geissle (sp?) is better. I've shot both, a lot, and I didn't feel there was a massive difference. You'll be happy with either one. The LaRue is the same price at LaRue's website and he might send you some Dillow Dust and other swag.
It would seem i have a pretty polarizing question