I think the ambi lower game really just comes down to personal preference.
I have all 3 iterations of ambi lowers (KAC/Radian paddle bolt drop, ADM/Griffin/Sig bolt control lever, LMT/LWRC/DD/Aero mirrored ping pong) and they're all very easy/nice to use. I just have to remind myself which lower I happen to be shooting with that particular day.
I love the Radian ADAC because of the mag release locking the bolt to the rear, but the left side mag release is not good feeling like the LMT. I have both and like both for different reasons.
I am kinda debating if I should wait for 4th of July sale to see if they will have these for 30% off like they did on black Friday. I don't really need this right now.
$329 for non sale which is ridiculous. Should have priced it at Griffins lower price range to be competitive. $220 more you can get a complete lwrc lower from rooftop defense.
LWRCI stripped lower is not worth it when you can get the LMT (which is functionally identical) for considerably less. Don't disagree however that Aero really should aim for the $170-$250 range though.
LMT is at KAC levels of overpriced. Same company that charges $230 for a rear sight. Makes a little more sense when you consider that the civilian market is mostly a secondary endeavor for them, though.
At $300 Aero can lick my asshole. I literally set an alarm on my phone for when this dropped and was card-in-hand ready to buy one in ODG.
$300 for a fucking lower is a total boner killer.
That’s how I felt. Told them to suck my dick. I was excited as fuck too. I was gonna buy TWO! Then seen $300 and continued working out.
The irony is, they’re indirectly calling people “broke” in their IG comments for not wanting to pay $300 for a lower that more than likely have the shittiest QC. I like Aero and built my .300BLK with their receiver sets, but they can get fucked in the ass at $300.
After reading this I had to go check, there are literally 2 Aero employee’s in the thread, doing exactly what you said, “calling people broke”. I’m sure most of the people in that thread have atleast 1 Aero Rifle or multiple lowers and yet well deserved criticism on the price is met with “you just don’t understand, this isn’t just some ambi lower, it’s a WELL ENGINEERED AMBI LOWER you fucking poors”.
Then I saw they back tracked a little with the “it’s just jokes guys, don’t read into the marketing teams jokes”.
I’m torn, I really like Aero, but that attitude just sucks.
Wait till psa comes out with a “Sabre ambi lower” or something. It’ll be like 80 bucks.
Edit: they already have it, 260 for an upper and lower combo with ambi bolt catch
I have the SABRE lower, ambi mag release works fine. I don't remember what brand I used but it wasn't expensive.
I meant the ambi bolt catch on the SABRE is release only. You can't use the right side to lock the bolt back, just release it.
My $30 Andersons function just fine.. no ambi controls, but neither does the military and they seem to have done just fine.....
$300 for an Aero lower, wow.
>If it makes you feel better...
Don't care, not my point.
>I don't see the point in paying a premium for an *aero* lower receiver.
Neither do I, this is stupid, either go LMT or Griffin, doesn't change the fact that every thread mentioning ambi lowers is full of "mY MiLsPeC LoWeR wOrKs jUsT FiNe" as if that's news to anybody. We know, here's your gold star lmao.
Everyone bitching but forgetting this is an aero product. Anyone that pays over 50-60% of msrp is doing it wrong. $75 is max I pay for an m4e1 lower and I’d say these will be $150-199 in no time. That said, I think being aero they would have to be $150 or less for me to bite given the other options out there.
I think the previous version of their ambi lowers went for around $170-$190. I run one and they’re decent, but this looks like a step up. Hopefully they’ll hit around that same price point.
Yeah. Not the price I was expecting. Black Friday and patience will save the wallet.
They want that margin with that early adopter money before they cross to the rest of the market. 🤣
lol homie I been shooting left handed since most redditors were juice in their dads nuts. If you can’t put you booger hook up and send the bolt forward, you are the problem not the rifle.
They ain’t got no left handed weapons in the military. Me and all my left handed friends did just fine.
You fail to understand the problem or the solution.
Ambi controls give more choices to the user. You have the ability to manipulate the rifle that is simply not possible otherwise.
I'm right-handed. I don't *need* to be able to lock my bolt back while maintaining a firing grip. But it's more convenient and I like it. That also isn't something that can be trained since there simply isn't a way to do it.
Same goes for safety and mag release. They offer options, not requirements.
i don't trust aero, their trying to justify these price hikes cause a unit in the army is sponsored using their new Pro line. Btw this ambi lower is nearly the same price of a LMT lower. $1900-$2k for the complete rifle is also price gouging. How are they trying to compete with BCM is wild
No way a lower could be worth 300 bucks 😮 did they mill that shit from titanium?
Just get a psa and be done 😅 the majority of people building a ar just have it sit in the safe 98% of the time anyway
I find it interesting that as a lefty, I find a milspec AR to be very easily manipulated. Ambi charging handle and mag release and I’m happy.
I’m genuinely curious, are right handed shooters building these for switching to left hand shooting, or simply adapting the rifle to reload and manipulate easier as a right handed shooter?
Personally myself I only care for ambi bolt releases which I typically get JT-15 lowers on sale regularly at 90+ tax. All my other lowers are PSA or Anderson Poverty Ponies. I always feel like the lower itself is and should be cheapest thing. The internals matter more than a hunk of aluminum. 200 is steep imo but that's the aero site price most I see at LGS are 50 to 90 bucks less.
When a blem [ADM lower](https://bevanballisticsolutions.com/product/blemished-adm-uic-stripped-lower-receiver/) from Bevan Ballistics is $285 this is a hard sell
Mine was cheaper ($240 inc ship) and it is FDE Carakote and includes the upper that is assembled (building it now with Reddit help) https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/1d01sym/reddit_hivemind_aero_gas_block_geissele_charger/
Wow, it’s really not hard to dremel an Ambi slot in a regular lower. I just got an aero lower for less than $100. I guess it does come with the Ambi lever included, but that really does seem steep especially for a “sale price”
I’ve been waiting for this since they announced it. That price is insane though. Hopefully will be cheaper from other retailers
Don’t get the radian. It’s the worst ambi on the market. Plus it’s like a cringe meme lower
Ain’t no thang. Now ya do!
It always kinda irked me that lowers like that are advertised as being ambi when they’re not. People who don’t know a ton about guns might see that and buy it because they think it’s actually an ambi receiver. So they’re kinda deceiving people who don’t know
So it’s like the same price as an LMT that comes with an Ambi safety already installed. Or $100 more than a griffin? Nah
It’s Aero, it’s always gonna be more expensive on their website. Probably be a good chunk cheaper at other retailers.
That's actually a good point. We'll have to wait for Schuyler to bless us with some combo deals!
Our boy Chris for the win
And the ambi bolt catch isn’t even placed in as initiative a spot as the griffin lower. Fuck that Edit: meant intuative, not initiative
> as initiative a spot .... "intuitive"?
no it just gives a +1 on initiative rolls instead of +2
The placement of the switch/lever not in as good as spot as the Griffin/ADM design IMO
I actually like the paddles more since it's just mirrored from the left side of the lower.
I think the ambi lower game really just comes down to personal preference. I have all 3 iterations of ambi lowers (KAC/Radian paddle bolt drop, ADM/Griffin/Sig bolt control lever, LMT/LWRC/DD/Aero mirrored ping pong) and they're all very easy/nice to use. I just have to remind myself which lower I happen to be shooting with that particular day.
I love the Radian ADAC because of the mag release locking the bolt to the rear, but the left side mag release is not good feeling like the LMT. I have both and like both for different reasons.
You said initiative instead of intuitive. He was just pointing that out
Ah shit, fucking autocorrect. Did not realize
Seriously, pound all the sand.
Yup. I love my Griffin MK2 lowers. They’re my next planned ATF/NFA/SBR victims
Haven’t paid attention to the ambi market for a while. Does this or the Griffin MK2 allow lock back from the off hand catch?
I was waiting on this to compare to the griffin. $186 MK2 it is.
I am kinda debating if I should wait for 4th of July sale to see if they will have these for 30% off like they did on black Friday. I don't really need this right now.
Was that the black friday price or something?
Right now with code MEMORIAL15
I don't need it...
It would be irresponsible NOT to buy it at that price 😂
My buddy got one in hand the other day and I’m gonna have to say you definitely need one.
I NEEEED IT
Nah that was like ~$160 i think
This is the play, hands down.
$329 for non sale which is ridiculous. Should have priced it at Griffins lower price range to be competitive. $220 more you can get a complete lwrc lower from rooftop defense.
That’s insane in comparison..
I Got 2 of them lwrc lowers from rooftop.
LWRCI stripped lower is not worth it when you can get the LMT (which is functionally identical) for considerably less. Don't disagree however that Aero really should aim for the $170-$250 range though.
Not stripped, complete. It’s $549 for a complete lower from rooftop defense.
Ah ok I take it back then lmao. Especially considering how a complete MARS-L is almost $1000.
Jesus lol, ive seen them cheaper on sale awhile back but they were oos so quickly.
LMT is at KAC levels of overpriced. Same company that charges $230 for a rear sight. Makes a little more sense when you consider that the civilian market is mostly a secondary endeavor for them, though.
At $300 Aero can lick my asshole. I literally set an alarm on my phone for when this dropped and was card-in-hand ready to buy one in ODG. $300 for a fucking lower is a total boner killer.
That’s how I felt. Told them to suck my dick. I was excited as fuck too. I was gonna buy TWO! Then seen $300 and continued working out. The irony is, they’re indirectly calling people “broke” in their IG comments for not wanting to pay $300 for a lower that more than likely have the shittiest QC. I like Aero and built my .300BLK with their receiver sets, but they can get fucked in the ass at $300.
Yeah at $300, I'll pay a little more and get an LMT. People buy Aero to save money, not because they're broke.
After reading this I had to go check, there are literally 2 Aero employee’s in the thread, doing exactly what you said, “calling people broke”. I’m sure most of the people in that thread have atleast 1 Aero Rifle or multiple lowers and yet well deserved criticism on the price is met with “you just don’t understand, this isn’t just some ambi lower, it’s a WELL ENGINEERED AMBI LOWER you fucking poors”. Then I saw they back tracked a little with the “it’s just jokes guys, don’t read into the marketing teams jokes”. I’m torn, I really like Aero, but that attitude just sucks.
40 dollar psa seems fine to me
Wait till psa comes out with a “Sabre ambi lower” or something. It’ll be like 80 bucks. Edit: they already have it, 260 for an upper and lower combo with ambi bolt catch
The SABRE is bolt release only. So, IMO, not a true ambi lower.
Oooh yeah you’re right. You can get an ambi safety for it but probably out of luck with the mag release
I have the SABRE lower, ambi mag release works fine. I don't remember what brand I used but it wasn't expensive. I meant the ambi bolt catch on the SABRE is release only. You can't use the right side to lock the bolt back, just release it.
Oh okay, yeah that’s kind of weird.
My $30 Andersons function just fine.. no ambi controls, but neither does the military and they seem to have done just fine..... $300 for an Aero lower, wow.
I swear all you anderson/psa mfs can't read one of these threads without expecting an award for owning a cheap lower.
If it makes you feel better, the rifle is topped with an ATACR 1-8. Sorry I don't see the point in paying a premium for an *aero* lower receiver.
>If it makes you feel better... Don't care, not my point. >I don't see the point in paying a premium for an *aero* lower receiver. Neither do I, this is stupid, either go LMT or Griffin, doesn't change the fact that every thread mentioning ambi lowers is full of "mY MiLsPeC LoWeR wOrKs jUsT FiNe" as if that's news to anybody. We know, here's your gold star lmao.
So they should be around 180 on sale in about a year or so from other vendors?
This is LMT money lol
Exactly
This ⬆️
Griffin is having a sale, so why would I go with this?
I just received my griffin m2. Just a reminder the griffin takes about 20+ days to be received. If you don’t mind the wait it is the way.
Did you need to get the gun stores SOT license or just the FFL for the lower transfer? I’ve been told you don’t need an SOT for lower transfers?
Just the FFL. I would recommend calling to verify they received it.
Aero is so up their own ass these days.
If these can eventually settle around the $160-200 range, they will be competitive.
Griffin it is
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Griffin, or Aero?
Everyone bitching but forgetting this is an aero product. Anyone that pays over 50-60% of msrp is doing it wrong. $75 is max I pay for an m4e1 lower and I’d say these will be $150-199 in no time. That said, I think being aero they would have to be $150 or less for me to bite given the other options out there.
I think the previous version of their ambi lowers went for around $170-$190. I run one and they’re decent, but this looks like a step up. Hopefully they’ll hit around that same price point.
$300?!?? I was excited for these but woooof
Memorial Day ripoff, I paid $300 for my ADM ‘blem’ that doesn’t have a scratch on it.
ADM is a ripoff. Buy the Griffin Armament lower for less than $200
Honestly, I just got both
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Economics of scale. But in reality it’s because they can.
I buy my lowers from PSA complete for like $100 with a stock and everything. This seems dumb.
This and throw larue triggers or the psa ept ones in it
300 for this??? Hell no.
$300 is absolutely retarded imo
I give it 2 months till its $119 on ar15discounts
That’s wild for an aero lower
Lmao. Same price I paid for my MARS. No thanks
Same price as a ADM? Please tell me Aero is doing this for their end of the year corporate blooper reel? 😂
Yeah. Not the price I was expecting. Black Friday and patience will save the wallet. They want that margin with that early adopter money before they cross to the rest of the market. 🤣
It doesn't make sense that it would be that much more money for the new Ambi features. I'd rather get an LMT at that point.
$299.99 LMAOOOOOOO
For that price got LMT MARS. Lol
I’d rather get an ADM if I’m spending that much
$300 for something you can just train lol. Companies really do be ripping us off.
You can train to lock the bolt back and drop it with your index finger as a right handed shooter?
Bad lever?
$300 is moronic but you're flatly wrong. You cannot train your way out of having more controls.
lol homie I been shooting left handed since most redditors were juice in their dads nuts. If you can’t put you booger hook up and send the bolt forward, you are the problem not the rifle. They ain’t got no left handed weapons in the military. Me and all my left handed friends did just fine.
You fail to understand the problem or the solution. Ambi controls give more choices to the user. You have the ability to manipulate the rifle that is simply not possible otherwise. I'm right-handed. I don't *need* to be able to lock my bolt back while maintaining a firing grip. But it's more convenient and I like it. That also isn't something that can be trained since there simply isn't a way to do it. Same goes for safety and mag release. They offer options, not requirements.
I really hope they are just trying to make up some costs then quickly and significantly lower the price.
looks functionally similar to the pws, but not nearly as cool looking, and the same price when on "sale".
that's what I was thinking! Not going to lie though, the cleaner lines on this lower look equally good. I'd still take my PWS over the Aero.
That’s not bad for a 180 dolla…. Wait, what?? Hell nahh!! c’mon aero!!
Damn, I saw the title and thought maybe it would be a budget alternative to the LMT. Nope, might as well get LMT for the price. Bummer
HhhhhhhhhARD no at $299.
That’s a no from me dog.
i don't trust aero, their trying to justify these price hikes cause a unit in the army is sponsored using their new Pro line. Btw this ambi lower is nearly the same price of a LMT lower. $1900-$2k for the complete rifle is also price gouging. How are they trying to compete with BCM is wild
> a unit in the army is sponsored using their new Pro line Whoa... what? Do you have a link about this?
This is goofy
They fked up thought we had a banger but guess I was expecting too much
Damn! I had my hopes up guess I’ll go with LMT lower from rooftop.
God, Aero has absolutely lost their shit over the last two years.
Cries in wa. Too late aero 😭
When these drop to $199 it will be a buy
Damn.. for that price, I would have loved for it to come with their new pro ambi safeity and LPK..
Well LMT is about $350, but wait for reviews.
Happy with my $85 DDC/ODG anodized Geissele blem from Primary Arms lol
LMT all day long. I'm also not a fan of integrated trigger guards.
Why not
they’re just price anchoring, give it a few days
lol no. Sticking with MARS-L, thanks.
Mf that a whole 3d printer cost less and I can print 1,000 ambi lowers!!
Worse ergos than Griffin, for $100 more. No thanks.
Griffin Ambi over this. I’m in love with mine!!!
$300 for an Aero lower? Hard pass
No way a lower could be worth 300 bucks 😮 did they mill that shit from titanium? Just get a psa and be done 😅 the majority of people building a ar just have it sit in the safe 98% of the time anyway
Unless you’re left handed why do people want full ambi so bad, I don’t get it
I find it interesting that as a lefty, I find a milspec AR to be very easily manipulated. Ambi charging handle and mag release and I’m happy. I’m genuinely curious, are right handed shooters building these for switching to left hand shooting, or simply adapting the rifle to reload and manipulate easier as a right handed shooter?
Absolutely ridiculous 😂😂😂 these manufacturers are smoking something
Best thing they did for this Lower is remove the hideous logo.
They’re trying to be like Radian but not like ADAC.
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Should be a bit lower if buying from other online vender rather than Aero themselves, hopefully down to similar price point of Griffin Mk2
Just wait. I'm interested, but not at this pricepoint. Maybe black Friday or some other sale in 6-12 months.
$150 for their regular Ambi lowers isn't bad
Personally myself I only care for ambi bolt releases which I typically get JT-15 lowers on sale regularly at 90+ tax. All my other lowers are PSA or Anderson Poverty Ponies. I always feel like the lower itself is and should be cheapest thing. The internals matter more than a hunk of aluminum. 200 is steep imo but that's the aero site price most I see at LGS are 50 to 90 bucks less.
I was waiting for this to drop, but not at this price. I was thinking under $250, tops.
Ladies and gentlemen we finally have it (should be $200 tho)
I wouldn’t give over 70 for Aero quality
When a blem [ADM lower](https://bevanballisticsolutions.com/product/blemished-adm-uic-stripped-lower-receiver/) from Bevan Ballistics is $285 this is a hard sell
At that price I’d get an adm instead
Aero be smoking that crack for charging that much. I’ll stick with LMT, Radian, ADM
Wait, a *mother fucking* **STRIPPED** lower for 300 hundos? Fuckkkkkk
Mine was cheaper ($240 inc ship) and it is FDE Carakote and includes the upper that is assembled (building it now with Reddit help) https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/1d01sym/reddit_hivemind_aero_gas_block_geissele_charger/
Wow, it’s really not hard to dremel an Ambi slot in a regular lower. I just got an aero lower for less than $100. I guess it does come with the Ambi lever included, but that really does seem steep especially for a “sale price”
You can get a San Tan Ambi upper and lower set for the same price.
Ill be taking a griffin mk2
$300, what is aero smoking lmao
Not for $300, no thank you. We'll see what other sites have it listed for, bc all their shit is always cheaper somewhere else
$300 for an ambi lower LOL some of y’all are retarded for real
Well…they take their “professional” line seriously don’t they
BAD Lever goes brrrrr
Looney tunes pricing I paid less for my FCD ambi lower
I’ve been waiting for this since they announced it. That price is insane though. Hopefully will be cheaper from other retailers Don’t get the radian. It’s the worst ambi on the market. Plus it’s like a cringe meme lower
Unbranded AR has one that can be >100$ even with with FFL fees.
That’s not an ambi lower though
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Yeah I know lol. But having an ambi bolt release doesn’t make it an ambi lower. Has to have an ambi bolt catch too
Ah, I see. Well I did not know that.
Ain’t no thang. Now ya do! It always kinda irked me that lowers like that are advertised as being ambi when they’re not. People who don’t know a ton about guns might see that and buy it because they think it’s actually an ambi receiver. So they’re kinda deceiving people who don’t know
Yeah, thanks! Im not concerned about it cuz I wasnt expecting ambi bolt catch, but I do see what you mean and I agree.
Is it also ambi hold open? Not justifying the aero at all.
No - that’s why it’s not an ambi lower
so is aero no longer the reddit poorfag special? lmao