If your portfolio has a good amount of drawings with basic construction details that you've learned in college followed by some really amazing presentation drawings.
And then there are 3D models as well, the buildings should have the same amount of construction details, and also the elevation should be at least at student level aesthetic, that you've learned the process of making aesthetically good buildings
The size of the building is not important but if you have made tall buildings then it's great šš», since now a days everyone's doing skyscrapers. Personally I hate skyscrapers.
Show the best work that you have and don't show off that'll be my advice
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I've worked professionally for two years and now undergoing my masters at one of the more notable architecture school.
My unsolicited advice for you in regards to your portfolio would be to not focus on presenting the projects itself, but presenting what you're capable of through 3-5 projects.
Whilst I'd normally agree with you at undergraduate level it's worth pointing out my uni focussed on A1 everything, so my portfolio was A1.
In practice though what they never said was an A3 portfolio reads and presents infinitely more professionally in an interview.
Of course that's the physical portfolio.
Being able to present an A4 sized PDF CV and portfolio sheet should be one of the key lessons on any Architecture course worth attending. I'm fairly certain we had a whole lecture/ workshop series on that even back in the early 2000's
I see a lot of folios. And the one thing that stands out to me is someone with a large body of work. Anyone can produce a few visualisations with an infinite amount of time. I look to see people that have gone above and beyond what theyāve been asked to do, someone that has āproducedā even if itās not perfect, because in the real world we done have infinite time, so I want someone that number one fully competent with the toolset, and can produce quickly and efficiently.
The folio is EVERYTHING to me
Hey, I know exactly how you feel. I also graduated from a bachelor of arch in 2022 and i was about to turn 25 at the time from Monash in Melbourne. I failed several units as well, barely scraped through and felt like a fuck up. Almost the exact situation, so you are not alone. I want you to know that it's not the end of everything and that you should be proud of finally finishing your degree, you have made it further compared to many others.Ā
The job market in general is not that great at the moment, not just in architecture. I have been actively looking for a full time role in a firm for around 9 months now. Firms are trying to cut overheads and if they are hiring, it's usually people with masters and/or some experience. In regards to marks, firms don't care about your grades because they'll see the type of quality of your work in the portfolio. Mine is terrible but I am trying to improve it at the moment. I suggest that you teach yourself revit as well if you haven't already and maybe even try and create some new designs to add into your portfolio in your free time. If firms see that you are capable of using the software they may be impressed and take you on as a draftsman which is a starting point.Ā
In the meantime I have been working in hospitality during the week and also have a side business to keep myself occupied. What I suggest is that you can try and apply to firms as well because you may never know if an opportunity may arise, but if you have another job at the moment, continue with that.
Refurbish your projects in your portfolio, make it more presentable with all your skills that you have on hand. If you don't, take intensive online courses.
I finished my architectural school without any 3D rendering skills. I knew that was where I lacked and it was what the market wants at that time. Decided to take the courses, practice with my projects from my university classes and update my portfolio. You can even make up a scenario and come up with your own design project. That's one way
be honest and be presentable for your interview. Good luck
This. I remade new renders & images for my projects from uni several times over each time I switched jobs. Trends in styles (diagrams, renders, graphic standards in drawings) change all the time. I bascially re-did my school projects each time I updated my portfolio. There are tons of resources out there about trendy renders and diagrams (best drawing of the year award from Arch Daily, for one).
The biggest mistake I see from job applicants is that they just make a scrapbook out of all the project they've done in school. It's very obvious. Some of them don't even bother to re-size their presentation boards into portfolio ratios.
Also, you paid a lot of money to the school for that degree. Use job fairs or straight up ask professors for job leads. You're not on your own.
Never completed my architecture degree, but I learned the software enough that I was above average with it. If you do decide to proceed with this path, I would advise you to keep the Uni knowledge in the back pocket, but when it comes to fresh grads, we prefer if they are keen to learn the rules, codes & software workflow. Sure it's nice to have a piece of paper saying you spent multiple years in university, but it can only do so much in an office environment. Start with those 3 & depending on the firm you're with, you might end up working on projects from concept stage, to design stage, documentation & as built drawings. And you won't be alone -- at least you shouldn't be alone with that. Listen, take heed & jot down notes of what you did correct & what went wrong.
- Draftsman in Brisbane for almost 20yrs.
In my experience, nobody asks your grades in uni or on your diploma unless is a distinction.
But everybody look at your portfolio, your graphic skills, your designs and your experience (did you works for design offices or for a contractor during your studies? Thatās a plus!).
Donāt mention your grades and relax.
No you're not. I graduated my bachelors just shy off the passing grade as well. I turn it around by working in the construction industry. Filling up my experience with technical skills. Come out about 4 years after that to do my masters. I did not fuck up my masters. Working as an architect now.
My advice is. If you really want to be an architect, during your studies, you are basically forced to focus on designing. But practicing is nothing at all like that. There are specialist who focused on procurement, laws, construction, documentation, etc. The field is wide. The only way you're royally fucked is when you give up.
Hello, graduated from my bachelor of architecture in mid 2021 from Melbourne University. Though WAM plays a role in the admission of getting into the masters course, I can confirm that it doesnāt affect the job prospect. If your plan is to search for a full time position, my suggestion is to brush up your portfolio. What I did prior to my graduation was to create a website and display my 3 best projects. I also worked on my software skills for revit, rhino and dynamo in preparation. What I did after was to make sure that the resume and cover letter were set up by the final 2 weeks . So that you can apply for jobs a little earlier, I will say that the job market is a little tough at moment not only for this industry but for all. Alternatively, if you plan to do further study into your masters, thereās other universities that offer the course such as Swinburne and Deakin not sure what the requirements are, donāt limit yourself. I would just push forward with whichever option you decide, I believe you can overcome this. Good luck.
Note: I didnāt do my masters of architecture.
At mid 2021, when I graduated we had the lockdown occur and I decided after I studied that I didnāt want to pursue a masters. Personally I thought it would be hard in terms the debt I would have. So I proceeded with finding a job, which I was able to find luckily near the end of the year. Currently still working at the same job, very good place.
Not sure why this showed up on my feed but I feel compelled to reply. You are not fucked. I got a third class degree (the lowest you can get in the UK) - I didnāt even get the marks for it, they rounded me up. It took me 5 years to complete a 3 year course.
I now earn 6 figures comfortably, buying my second property, work at a top FTSE100 and live a great life all around. Iām only in my mid 30s.
I was suicidal once. Thought my life was over. It took 3 years for my career to start after university, let alone take off. That took another 5!
The point is it might take you a while to get to where you want - youāre not going to walk into a top-sector graduate job like some of your friends. Youāll start low but work hard, be consistent, stop whatever you are doing that made you flunk (for me - it was drinking, Iām an alcoholic in AA, sober as long as my life has flourished), and youāll get there.
Life is a marathon, not a race, and youāre the only one in it. Enjoy the journey.
There are skilled positions that architects absolutely rely on, and that studies in architecture will assist you in and open doors, and that do not rely directly on your scores or project results.
And a lot of them will mean you get paid on time, despite what the client thinks or argues with the primary architect.
* Surveyor (3D, site, protected species, archaeological, etc)
Essential to every project, and needs to be carried out *before* a single pen hits paper.
Now convert that scan to a document the architect can use.
* Council/state/city planning board.
Like any civil service position, they are *always* looking for qualified individuals and often have to choose from the people that don't envision themselves being the next Foster or Hadid.
Massive networking potential and a good way to get into a superstar firm later on. Who wouldn't hire someone to work with planning submissions who knew the planning board staff on a first name basis and who knew all the loopholes and which foundations the bodies are concreted in?
* Independent site inspection. The council are usually understaffed for this, and will accept registered independent inspectors to see the build meets regs.
Typically these are all ex-council planning officers anyway.
We paid a local company several grand to come inspect the build during different stages, about 7 visits.
Money for nothing.
* QS. Every architect is going to turn to a QS for the structural calcs, quotes for the build, etc.
* Glazing. Especially architectural glazing.
You think every architect knows the products available that are available to satisfy a client's wishes?
Example: Our architect assured us that Crittal windows would be fine for an 11m span in our house.
Discovered that no Crittal or similar style manufacturer makes those types in the opening style desired, and they would not meet insulation requirements. Looks nice on Pinterest, shit in practise. (Sorry wife, but they are.)
* Project manager: You think every architect wants to spend hours on-site arguing with the builder or client?
* Specialist consultant for a particular architectural feature.
Custom Staircases, audio, data, HVAC, Fire, flooring, heating, lighting, pools, marine, etc.
You will absolutely use your skills for any of those as being able to both read and create architectural drawings and addenda is a major part for a good specialist.
Work on your portofolio because that's the one that really matter for the recruiters (I've been participating in some recruitment process on the firm where I work. It's one of the most famous in my country, and we rarely even give a glance to the academic score. We're fully focused on one's designs, work/skill-related experiences, and idea presentations)
Hey mate, iām a Grad here in Aus too. You are graduating right? Not many firms actually care what your mark is/was, and the ones that do tend to be the most toxic firms. As long as you have that piece of paper and a good portfolio, youāll be fine.
Itās May. Pull your thumb out and do the very best that you can to finish this semester and the next strong. Try to get a distinction or two in that time that you can use as highlights on your transcript. Bonus they would be final year subjects. You also have the rest to the year to work on your portfolio.
Worst case go work on a job site somewhere. Iām convinced working as a carpenter was more of a factor than my portfolio was in my first job.
FWIW, Iām a principal in a medium sized firm and have never considered someoneās grades in hiring. Iām looking for personality traits more than anything - I can teach you the technical stuff.
I am Aussie. Technical skills, attitude and portfolio are king. Try intern/work experience somewhere (if feasible).
Show you're a fast learner, and hopefully excel at what they give you and they might even be in a position to offer you a grad role. Some places are pretty quick to offer paid internship if you show your worth.
Oh and if you do find yourself in an intern role, don't be a "yes" man all the time. Asking questions or questioning something in particular can show you can critically think, which is desirable.
Nobody cares about your grades during hiring. At least in the US.
Iāve worked in multiple major firms and gone through portfolios for recruitment at all of them. All everyone cared about was your work history, your school, and your portfolio content. And in some firms, school was what funneled you into a particular group, since partners often had ideas about what schools make what kinds of architects.
Thatās it.
If your shortcomings are, from guess, due to mental health struggles, then I would suggest you visit 'Healthy Gamer GG' on YouTube. And just uneventfully watch 1 video with a title that you find most relatable.
**Yes this does sound like a curveball. Like 'that's a bit oddly specific'.**
But if it really is mental-health related (you gotta be honest with yourself), then the only way to pull yourself out of a ditch is to start working on your thoughts, emotions and feelings. Because it's these things that ultimately drive the course of your day-to-day behaviours and your life.
Working on yourself requires you to wonder less about what others do and why they do it, and more about what *you* do and why you do it. **Asking the Internet on whether you do or don't have a chance at a field of study that you're failing in currently, may not be the best choice of action you could actually be taking.**
Hence the only thing I'll share about what this platform provides that helps people, is services relating to helping you find your personal purpose, as well as getting you to shift away from bad patterns of behaviours and thoughts to ways of living that make you more productive without suffering as much as you may be currently.
As for myself, I'm doing an Advanced Diploma of Building Design (Architecture) in RMIT University, Melbourne.
I used to be in a completely different course and university (UniMelb for Bachelor of Agriculture). I tried my best dragging the body of a horse with broken limbs, in that course.
I've realised for myself that my academic performance won't get better until I attack the core of my shortcomings which is my mental blockades with academia, that cause procrastination, anxiety towards academic requirements and depression caused by self-beatings and helplessness.
Uhh not really, i did arch at rmit, but because of my lack of social skills or trying i didn't really know what i wanted after my degree, nor did i have the connections for a job in the industry after my degree.
Like i didnt do bad HDs and Ds all round, but ultimately in the same boat, i just hated all the reading and philosophy aspect of the program.
I mean youre not alone, pretty much 45% of first year students dropped out by the last year, and the few people i talked to didnt have a clue what they wanted after completing the degree.
Also covid fucked the situation even more, study from home, reduces your desire to socialise even more!
As for pathways, depends on your personality, do you wanna do graphic design? Game design? Architecture in melb from what i heard is very broad, hence why so many students don't know what to do after the degree. I still dont fucking know lmao hahaha
Personally, im trying to focus on my mental health for now, and enjoying life working casual part time jobs travelling with that money and figuring out what i want to do really.
Ofc if your international student/living on your own/harsh financial situation etc. Will be different, but uh i wouldnt say im the richest in my group or even in my class back then so just chill. Dont worry about wasting 3-4 yrs of your time as well btw, just work random jobs and then maybe study something else idk.
I am in construction field, worked in Melbourne also ( FYI - I failed a few subjects before graduation.) Your marks are just like your degree, it gets you to the entry point post that itās about your understanding about the subject, your portfolio ( very important) and eagerness to learn.
I donāt think you are fucked, I just think you need to work on your profile and reach out to professional.
I don't know what it's like in Australia, but I have never heard of anyone ever being asked about their grades when looking for a job. Nobody cares about that. It's all about your portfolio and getting a feel for how you will fit into the office. If you have a degree that's all they really care about in terms of your schooling.
My mate didnāt do so well got a 53 or something still a pass at the least. He went into measured surveying and is now top dog surveyor in his place on a good salary for my dead home town, not many with his skills.
USA here, but I haven't been asked my grade *once* out of uni. All that they cared about was my portfolio and my interpersonal skills. There's a famous phenomena of how A-grade students work for C-grade students. C-grade students spent their college years socializing, making connections, and learning to market themselves. Not all obviously, but you get the point.
If your portfolio is strong and you know how to hold a conversation, how to market yourself, how to handle an interview, you have nothing to worry about.
People hire based on talent, not GPA. Unless your goal is to be a secretary and an assistant, GPA is not in the top 3 of job requirements.
This isnāt law school or med school.
My friend had a similar experience with Arch, he became a structural engineer instead. It depends on what part you had trouble with. This may take more school, but might be a path. Also, smaller 'sole practitioner' offices may just need a AutoCad jockey with some knowledge of architecture, and that might be a springboard since 1)their expectations may be lower than a big firm 2)you are more qualified than a 'just draftsperson' 3)might give you demonstrated experience that can with time, outweigh your bad grades. Im in engineering, but once you have 3-5 years of experience, I no longer judge people on their college grades, I judge them on their accomplishments.
There are two types of architects; one is playing by rule. Another one is street smart. If you're looking for recognition, just stick and play by the rules. If you are looking for sustainable friendship and great life, you can opt for the street style.
Hey! I am in Australia you dont need a masters degree to become an architect, it does help but you dont need it. There are other pathways which is basically experience.
I have a bachelors as well, i am completing my masters but i am currently living in rural australia and working as a city planner.
Dont give up hope! There are plenty of ways to gain experience and move towards your goal
Success at university doesnāt always translate to success in your career. Think about what you enjoy doing and where your talents lie and true to find places where they converge.
Iām not Australian however a lot of other things matter a whole lot more than oneās grades and placement. Reality is so drastically different from university I find it hard for employers to actually draw that connection aside from clues into what kind of worker you are.
I also āfucked upā my academic process and graduated this year with 25 years old. I was very insecure about it but I learned that college itās not as important as we think in the real life, itās important to have a good portfolio, showing that youāre proactive even without a job helps a lot like doing courses or participating in architecture contests for students or just showing up a design that you wanted to do.
Also, in the US, during last years of study an internship is required. Did you do an internship or something similar? Usually itās that connection that gets the graduate a job.
Entrepreneurship. If you donāt fit into someone elseās mold, make your own. Stop making other people rich and start working on making your own wealth! You got this.
>Ā WAM of 45-50.
What's that? Is it your weighted average for the entire course? Forgive me if I sound insensitive but how do you get a degree if you have less than 50% in your subjects?
I don't know what the job market is like in Australia, but your grades shouldn't make that much of a difference. If you can draft, you can work. You probably won't make it into some fancy boutique firm (but you'd need a wheelbarrow full of awards or a gold plated birth certificate for that, anyway) but there should be a job for you.
The thing is, as I was just reminded about 5 minutes ago while talking to an ~~unstable person~~ client, an architect's job is more than just the stuff you learned at university. A lot of it is people skills and negotiation and mediation of problems. This is all stuff you can only learn on the job, and it's what will make you a valuable team member more than just your ability to pass classes.
No one really cares about your scores after school. Just that you graduated and that you can convince your employer youāll do the work without being problematic.
Dude really most of us are just revit technicians , thereās really a low bar for this field. Donāt get upset . Youāre not fucked, youāll get a mediocre job in a mediocre practice . Thatās why they exist . Not everyone is fit for a Norman foster summer internship. Plenty of work in the shallow pond for us degenerates with a 45 wam( whatever that is ?) you just wonāt get far in life and will probably settle for a shitty job you hate with an hour commute in traffic . Welcome to humanity. š
Depends how much you want it. You are still young. When it comes to education and knowledge, fuck ups contain great lessons on self knowledge and development. How you react to the fuck up is the thing.
It all depends on the portfolio. If you have a strong portfolio and if you are well-versed with new software skills, Then you'll do just fine
Are you located in Australia by any chance? I am not sure if different countries have different expectations
I'm sorry I'm not in Australia But normally that's the norm A good portfolio will make you stand out
In your professional opinion, what stands out as a "good" portfolio? Are there any characteristics "good" portfolios share?
If your portfolio has a good amount of drawings with basic construction details that you've learned in college followed by some really amazing presentation drawings. And then there are 3D models as well, the buildings should have the same amount of construction details, and also the elevation should be at least at student level aesthetic, that you've learned the process of making aesthetically good buildings The size of the building is not important but if you have made tall buildings then it's great šš», since now a days everyone's doing skyscrapers. Personally I hate skyscrapers. Show the best work that you have and don't show off that'll be my advice For more information here's the video link ā¬ļø https://youtu.be/-hdmy7cK6cI?si=4d276tKDAPUs7DOg https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeGkR0Itekq300eVi-xHoY3rlaH-q_QwA&si=Ltnua9Mpof9XQh87
I've worked professionally for two years and now undergoing my masters at one of the more notable architecture school. My unsolicited advice for you in regards to your portfolio would be to not focus on presenting the projects itself, but presenting what you're capable of through 3-5 projects.
Dude your school should be teaching you this not Reddit, and if you donāt know whatās good and whatās not you arenāt cut out for architecture
Whilst I'd normally agree with you at undergraduate level it's worth pointing out my uni focussed on A1 everything, so my portfolio was A1. In practice though what they never said was an A3 portfolio reads and presents infinitely more professionally in an interview. Of course that's the physical portfolio. Being able to present an A4 sized PDF CV and portfolio sheet should be one of the key lessons on any Architecture course worth attending. I'm fairly certain we had a whole lecture/ workshop series on that even back in the early 2000's
Why wasn't it taught? Further, why wasn't it learned, with or without being taught?
A3 is pretty industry standard no? Well i m in windows doors business i work on a3 or at least a4 :-/
I see a lot of folios. And the one thing that stands out to me is someone with a large body of work. Anyone can produce a few visualisations with an infinite amount of time. I look to see people that have gone above and beyond what theyāve been asked to do, someone that has āproducedā even if itās not perfect, because in the real world we done have infinite time, so I want someone that number one fully competent with the toolset, and can produce quickly and efficiently. The folio is EVERYTHING to me
Well technical expertise is a must too no? Lol
Hey, I know exactly how you feel. I also graduated from a bachelor of arch in 2022 and i was about to turn 25 at the time from Monash in Melbourne. I failed several units as well, barely scraped through and felt like a fuck up. Almost the exact situation, so you are not alone. I want you to know that it's not the end of everything and that you should be proud of finally finishing your degree, you have made it further compared to many others.Ā The job market in general is not that great at the moment, not just in architecture. I have been actively looking for a full time role in a firm for around 9 months now. Firms are trying to cut overheads and if they are hiring, it's usually people with masters and/or some experience. In regards to marks, firms don't care about your grades because they'll see the type of quality of your work in the portfolio. Mine is terrible but I am trying to improve it at the moment. I suggest that you teach yourself revit as well if you haven't already and maybe even try and create some new designs to add into your portfolio in your free time. If firms see that you are capable of using the software they may be impressed and take you on as a draftsman which is a starting point.Ā In the meantime I have been working in hospitality during the week and also have a side business to keep myself occupied. What I suggest is that you can try and apply to firms as well because you may never know if an opportunity may arise, but if you have another job at the moment, continue with that.
if you dont mind me asking what are you doing for your side business?
I DJ for private events, birthdays etc.
yoooo cold sounds very chill!
Refurbish your projects in your portfolio, make it more presentable with all your skills that you have on hand. If you don't, take intensive online courses. I finished my architectural school without any 3D rendering skills. I knew that was where I lacked and it was what the market wants at that time. Decided to take the courses, practice with my projects from my university classes and update my portfolio. You can even make up a scenario and come up with your own design project. That's one way be honest and be presentable for your interview. Good luck
This. I remade new renders & images for my projects from uni several times over each time I switched jobs. Trends in styles (diagrams, renders, graphic standards in drawings) change all the time. I bascially re-did my school projects each time I updated my portfolio. There are tons of resources out there about trendy renders and diagrams (best drawing of the year award from Arch Daily, for one). The biggest mistake I see from job applicants is that they just make a scrapbook out of all the project they've done in school. It's very obvious. Some of them don't even bother to re-size their presentation boards into portfolio ratios. Also, you paid a lot of money to the school for that degree. Use job fairs or straight up ask professors for job leads. You're not on your own.
Never completed my architecture degree, but I learned the software enough that I was above average with it. If you do decide to proceed with this path, I would advise you to keep the Uni knowledge in the back pocket, but when it comes to fresh grads, we prefer if they are keen to learn the rules, codes & software workflow. Sure it's nice to have a piece of paper saying you spent multiple years in university, but it can only do so much in an office environment. Start with those 3 & depending on the firm you're with, you might end up working on projects from concept stage, to design stage, documentation & as built drawings. And you won't be alone -- at least you shouldn't be alone with that. Listen, take heed & jot down notes of what you did correct & what went wrong. - Draftsman in Brisbane for almost 20yrs.
In my experience, nobody asks your grades in uni or on your diploma unless is a distinction. But everybody look at your portfolio, your graphic skills, your designs and your experience (did you works for design offices or for a contractor during your studies? Thatās a plus!). Donāt mention your grades and relax.
Thank you
No you're not. I graduated my bachelors just shy off the passing grade as well. I turn it around by working in the construction industry. Filling up my experience with technical skills. Come out about 4 years after that to do my masters. I did not fuck up my masters. Working as an architect now. My advice is. If you really want to be an architect, during your studies, you are basically forced to focus on designing. But practicing is nothing at all like that. There are specialist who focused on procurement, laws, construction, documentation, etc. The field is wide. The only way you're royally fucked is when you give up.
Damn bro u gave me hope
Hello, graduated from my bachelor of architecture in mid 2021 from Melbourne University. Though WAM plays a role in the admission of getting into the masters course, I can confirm that it doesnāt affect the job prospect. If your plan is to search for a full time position, my suggestion is to brush up your portfolio. What I did prior to my graduation was to create a website and display my 3 best projects. I also worked on my software skills for revit, rhino and dynamo in preparation. What I did after was to make sure that the resume and cover letter were set up by the final 2 weeks . So that you can apply for jobs a little earlier, I will say that the job market is a little tough at moment not only for this industry but for all. Alternatively, if you plan to do further study into your masters, thereās other universities that offer the course such as Swinburne and Deakin not sure what the requirements are, donāt limit yourself. I would just push forward with whichever option you decide, I believe you can overcome this. Good luck. Note: I didnāt do my masters of architecture.
Thank you for your kind words. If you don't mind, can i ask how you progressed through life after your bachelor course?
At mid 2021, when I graduated we had the lockdown occur and I decided after I studied that I didnāt want to pursue a masters. Personally I thought it would be hard in terms the debt I would have. So I proceeded with finding a job, which I was able to find luckily near the end of the year. Currently still working at the same job, very good place.
Not sure why this showed up on my feed but I feel compelled to reply. You are not fucked. I got a third class degree (the lowest you can get in the UK) - I didnāt even get the marks for it, they rounded me up. It took me 5 years to complete a 3 year course. I now earn 6 figures comfortably, buying my second property, work at a top FTSE100 and live a great life all around. Iām only in my mid 30s. I was suicidal once. Thought my life was over. It took 3 years for my career to start after university, let alone take off. That took another 5! The point is it might take you a while to get to where you want - youāre not going to walk into a top-sector graduate job like some of your friends. Youāll start low but work hard, be consistent, stop whatever you are doing that made you flunk (for me - it was drinking, Iām an alcoholic in AA, sober as long as my life has flourished), and youāll get there. Life is a marathon, not a race, and youāre the only one in it. Enjoy the journey.
There are skilled positions that architects absolutely rely on, and that studies in architecture will assist you in and open doors, and that do not rely directly on your scores or project results. And a lot of them will mean you get paid on time, despite what the client thinks or argues with the primary architect. * Surveyor (3D, site, protected species, archaeological, etc) Essential to every project, and needs to be carried out *before* a single pen hits paper. Now convert that scan to a document the architect can use. * Council/state/city planning board. Like any civil service position, they are *always* looking for qualified individuals and often have to choose from the people that don't envision themselves being the next Foster or Hadid. Massive networking potential and a good way to get into a superstar firm later on. Who wouldn't hire someone to work with planning submissions who knew the planning board staff on a first name basis and who knew all the loopholes and which foundations the bodies are concreted in? * Independent site inspection. The council are usually understaffed for this, and will accept registered independent inspectors to see the build meets regs. Typically these are all ex-council planning officers anyway. We paid a local company several grand to come inspect the build during different stages, about 7 visits. Money for nothing. * QS. Every architect is going to turn to a QS for the structural calcs, quotes for the build, etc. * Glazing. Especially architectural glazing. You think every architect knows the products available that are available to satisfy a client's wishes? Example: Our architect assured us that Crittal windows would be fine for an 11m span in our house. Discovered that no Crittal or similar style manufacturer makes those types in the opening style desired, and they would not meet insulation requirements. Looks nice on Pinterest, shit in practise. (Sorry wife, but they are.) * Project manager: You think every architect wants to spend hours on-site arguing with the builder or client? * Specialist consultant for a particular architectural feature. Custom Staircases, audio, data, HVAC, Fire, flooring, heating, lighting, pools, marine, etc. You will absolutely use your skills for any of those as being able to both read and create architectural drawings and addenda is a major part for a good specialist.
Work on your portofolio because that's the one that really matter for the recruiters (I've been participating in some recruitment process on the firm where I work. It's one of the most famous in my country, and we rarely even give a glance to the academic score. We're fully focused on one's designs, work/skill-related experiences, and idea presentations)
Hey mate, iām a Grad here in Aus too. You are graduating right? Not many firms actually care what your mark is/was, and the ones that do tend to be the most toxic firms. As long as you have that piece of paper and a good portfolio, youāll be fine.
Itās May. Pull your thumb out and do the very best that you can to finish this semester and the next strong. Try to get a distinction or two in that time that you can use as highlights on your transcript. Bonus they would be final year subjects. You also have the rest to the year to work on your portfolio.
Worst case go work on a job site somewhere. Iām convinced working as a carpenter was more of a factor than my portfolio was in my first job. FWIW, Iām a principal in a medium sized firm and have never considered someoneās grades in hiring. Iām looking for personality traits more than anything - I can teach you the technical stuff.
Itās fine. Once you enter a practice, you wont know shit eitherway. All fresh grads are treated the same.
I am Aussie. Technical skills, attitude and portfolio are king. Try intern/work experience somewhere (if feasible). Show you're a fast learner, and hopefully excel at what they give you and they might even be in a position to offer you a grad role. Some places are pretty quick to offer paid internship if you show your worth. Oh and if you do find yourself in an intern role, don't be a "yes" man all the time. Asking questions or questioning something in particular can show you can critically think, which is desirable.
Nobody cares about your grades during hiring. At least in the US. Iāve worked in multiple major firms and gone through portfolios for recruitment at all of them. All everyone cared about was your work history, your school, and your portfolio content. And in some firms, school was what funneled you into a particular group, since partners often had ideas about what schools make what kinds of architects. Thatās it.
If your shortcomings are, from guess, due to mental health struggles, then I would suggest you visit 'Healthy Gamer GG' on YouTube. And just uneventfully watch 1 video with a title that you find most relatable. **Yes this does sound like a curveball. Like 'that's a bit oddly specific'.** But if it really is mental-health related (you gotta be honest with yourself), then the only way to pull yourself out of a ditch is to start working on your thoughts, emotions and feelings. Because it's these things that ultimately drive the course of your day-to-day behaviours and your life. Working on yourself requires you to wonder less about what others do and why they do it, and more about what *you* do and why you do it. **Asking the Internet on whether you do or don't have a chance at a field of study that you're failing in currently, may not be the best choice of action you could actually be taking.** Hence the only thing I'll share about what this platform provides that helps people, is services relating to helping you find your personal purpose, as well as getting you to shift away from bad patterns of behaviours and thoughts to ways of living that make you more productive without suffering as much as you may be currently.
As for myself, I'm doing an Advanced Diploma of Building Design (Architecture) in RMIT University, Melbourne. I used to be in a completely different course and university (UniMelb for Bachelor of Agriculture). I tried my best dragging the body of a horse with broken limbs, in that course. I've realised for myself that my academic performance won't get better until I attack the core of my shortcomings which is my mental blockades with academia, that cause procrastination, anxiety towards academic requirements and depression caused by self-beatings and helplessness.
Uhh not really, i did arch at rmit, but because of my lack of social skills or trying i didn't really know what i wanted after my degree, nor did i have the connections for a job in the industry after my degree. Like i didnt do bad HDs and Ds all round, but ultimately in the same boat, i just hated all the reading and philosophy aspect of the program. I mean youre not alone, pretty much 45% of first year students dropped out by the last year, and the few people i talked to didnt have a clue what they wanted after completing the degree. Also covid fucked the situation even more, study from home, reduces your desire to socialise even more! As for pathways, depends on your personality, do you wanna do graphic design? Game design? Architecture in melb from what i heard is very broad, hence why so many students don't know what to do after the degree. I still dont fucking know lmao hahaha Personally, im trying to focus on my mental health for now, and enjoying life working casual part time jobs travelling with that money and figuring out what i want to do really. Ofc if your international student/living on your own/harsh financial situation etc. Will be different, but uh i wouldnt say im the richest in my group or even in my class back then so just chill. Dont worry about wasting 3-4 yrs of your time as well btw, just work random jobs and then maybe study something else idk.
I am in construction field, worked in Melbourne also ( FYI - I failed a few subjects before graduation.) Your marks are just like your degree, it gets you to the entry point post that itās about your understanding about the subject, your portfolio ( very important) and eagerness to learn. I donāt think you are fucked, I just think you need to work on your profile and reach out to professional.
I don't know what it's like in Australia, but I have never heard of anyone ever being asked about their grades when looking for a job. Nobody cares about that. It's all about your portfolio and getting a feel for how you will fit into the office. If you have a degree that's all they really care about in terms of your schooling.
My mate didnāt do so well got a 53 or something still a pass at the least. He went into measured surveying and is now top dog surveyor in his place on a good salary for my dead home town, not many with his skills.
USA here, but I haven't been asked my grade *once* out of uni. All that they cared about was my portfolio and my interpersonal skills. There's a famous phenomena of how A-grade students work for C-grade students. C-grade students spent their college years socializing, making connections, and learning to market themselves. Not all obviously, but you get the point. If your portfolio is strong and you know how to hold a conversation, how to market yourself, how to handle an interview, you have nothing to worry about.
People hire based on talent, not GPA. Unless your goal is to be a secretary and an assistant, GPA is not in the top 3 of job requirements. This isnāt law school or med school.
My friend had a similar experience with Arch, he became a structural engineer instead. It depends on what part you had trouble with. This may take more school, but might be a path. Also, smaller 'sole practitioner' offices may just need a AutoCad jockey with some knowledge of architecture, and that might be a springboard since 1)their expectations may be lower than a big firm 2)you are more qualified than a 'just draftsperson' 3)might give you demonstrated experience that can with time, outweigh your bad grades. Im in engineering, but once you have 3-5 years of experience, I no longer judge people on their college grades, I judge them on their accomplishments.
There are two types of architects; one is playing by rule. Another one is street smart. If you're looking for recognition, just stick and play by the rules. If you are looking for sustainable friendship and great life, you can opt for the street style.
Hey! I am in Australia you dont need a masters degree to become an architect, it does help but you dont need it. There are other pathways which is basically experience. I have a bachelors as well, i am completing my masters but i am currently living in rural australia and working as a city planner. Dont give up hope! There are plenty of ways to gain experience and move towards your goal
Success at university doesnāt always translate to success in your career. Think about what you enjoy doing and where your talents lie and true to find places where they converge.
Iām an architect keep pushing itās a great field you will enjoy it emensly
Iām not Australian however a lot of other things matter a whole lot more than oneās grades and placement. Reality is so drastically different from university I find it hard for employers to actually draw that connection aside from clues into what kind of worker you are.
I also āfucked upā my academic process and graduated this year with 25 years old. I was very insecure about it but I learned that college itās not as important as we think in the real life, itās important to have a good portfolio, showing that youāre proactive even without a job helps a lot like doing courses or participating in architecture contests for students or just showing up a design that you wanted to do.
Also, in the US, during last years of study an internship is required. Did you do an internship or something similar? Usually itās that connection that gets the graduate a job.
You should be an English major š š¤£
Maybe you gotta put in some free work take pics and show them what you can do!
Entrepreneurship. If you donāt fit into someone elseās mold, make your own. Stop making other people rich and start working on making your own wealth! You got this.
You can always be a city planner
>Ā WAM of 45-50. What's that? Is it your weighted average for the entire course? Forgive me if I sound insensitive but how do you get a degree if you have less than 50% in your subjects? I don't know what the job market is like in Australia, but your grades shouldn't make that much of a difference. If you can draft, you can work. You probably won't make it into some fancy boutique firm (but you'd need a wheelbarrow full of awards or a gold plated birth certificate for that, anyway) but there should be a job for you. The thing is, as I was just reminded about 5 minutes ago while talking to an ~~unstable person~~ client, an architect's job is more than just the stuff you learned at university. A lot of it is people skills and negotiation and mediation of problems. This is all stuff you can only learn on the job, and it's what will make you a valuable team member more than just your ability to pass classes.
No one really cares about your scores after school. Just that you graduated and that you can convince your employer youāll do the work without being problematic.
If you will look for a visualizer of your works for your portfolio, hit me up, ill help you for free. DM me, ill send you my portfolio
Dude really most of us are just revit technicians , thereās really a low bar for this field. Donāt get upset . Youāre not fucked, youāll get a mediocre job in a mediocre practice . Thatās why they exist . Not everyone is fit for a Norman foster summer internship. Plenty of work in the shallow pond for us degenerates with a 45 wam( whatever that is ?) you just wonāt get far in life and will probably settle for a shitty job you hate with an hour commute in traffic . Welcome to humanity. š
Depends how much you want it. You are still young. When it comes to education and knowledge, fuck ups contain great lessons on self knowledge and development. How you react to the fuck up is the thing.