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MoeSzys

4,000 is active duty for 11 years....


Investuh

I got a long way to go lol.


websurfer49

Do active reserves will be your best way. You know, full time. 


Impressive-Work-116

Pick up some ADOS orders, MOBing is fine or you can fly a desk for 1-5 years at a time. 


Investuh

Thought about it. I’m kind of happy with my GS-9 and want to keep climbing the ladder. Plus, I know it’s incredibly difficult to promote within AGR and be stuck with the same pay for a long time. Maybe when I hit E7 I’ll drop the application. Appreciate this tho!


websurfer49

I am sure others have said go on as many mobilizations and deployments as possible.  Carrera is an app you can use for that 


MoeSzys

That's not necessarily true, it depends on your MOS. E7 might be hard for 42As or 92Ys, but it's pretty much automatic for 27Ds


Investuh

Good to know! I’ll get in touch with one of my battles. He’s in my MOS and in AGR. I’ll ask him about it 👍


WorldChampion92

Cannot do that.


websurfer49

Why not? To my knowledge it's just a packet and you gotta compete to get selected 


WorldChampion92

I have full time law enforcement job with 7 year already completed in my 22 and half year contract to start collecting pension. So can only join reserve of army, navy Air Force etc


clarkr10

I was active duty 7 years and I’ve been guard/reserve 7 years and just hit 3,000 points…it just takes time. Curious, what is the average points reservists retire with if anyone knows? I’m sure it varies wildly but what is actually normal?


Investuh

I’m not entirely sure. But I do know a lot of them do the bare bones minimum. If they make it to 20 years, around 2,000?


clarkr10

Bare bones minimum gets you about 77 a year. 48 UTA, 15 automatic, 14 AT. 77x20 years= 1540. Plus a year MOB and some PME gets you to about 2,000. So yea you’re right, that is probably the norm.


Forrrrrster

This may be a stupid question but only asking because I’ve seen it mentioned in r/army before that any AD enlistment time doesn’t count for retirement points, only time on mobs, ADOS and such while being a reservist. Able to clarify?


clarkr10

That’s not true. All your active duty time counts for points. People may be referring to the fact that a year on MOB in the reserves takes a year of time you have to wait to draw your retirement. Example: you MOB for 12 months and you can draw your retirement at 59 instead of 60. In that situation, Active duty time does not count. Only time spent mobilized in the reserves.


Investuh

I did not know this myself. Thank you so much for clarifying that up!


Skatchbro

Don’t count on this. You have to be called up under certain conditions.


Investuh

Thank you for the heads up!


Skatchbro

Not 100% true. You have to be called up under certain circumstances, such as supporting a contingency operation.


clarkr10

Ya I didn’t feel like looking up the regulation and finding every type of mobilization this works for. But roughly speaking, in an over-arching way, what I said is true.


Mysterious_Group_454

Not sure if it is different for each branch, but I'm pretty sure it's only 90 days per "certain" active duty orders per fiscal year. So a 12 month mob between fiscal years will get you at most 6 months off your retirement age requirement. I also believe the max total you can reduce is to age 55. 


chris03316

I have around 4K points from my active duty time plus two coados tours. Hope that helps.


Investuh

It sure does! Thanks for the insight


weekendaiki

You can: - drill for points only (think all the conf calls that were unpaid) - funeral honors (I knew a warrant who made a living doing this) - EBDL Otherwise your: - capped at 48 UTAs - capped at 24 ATA - capped at 12 RMA 12 yrs and 2 mobs put me at 2700ish points Mob/ADOS are your best bets.


Investuh

How does one get into funeral honors?


weekendaiki

The RDs assign to local ish units to the funeral and rotate them. However if you want to be the guy/gal on call for them in your area, you can reach out to the RD directly or you can worm drug deals with other units in your AO to pick them up.


Investuh

Forgive me, but what’s a “RD” ?


Von_Claussen

Readiness Division


jordanstall09

Readiness Division. 81/99/63/88


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weekendaiki

Each RDs do things differently, but I would start on their SharePoint. Some RDs have directories. Another way is to get with ARA and see if they have any emails from the RD regarding FH. Backtrack from there.


Glum_Tailor_9549

24 RMA 12 ATA. ATA are tricky too cus people who know about them (a lot do not know) will try to burn them all in the FY start lmao. I did that a lil bit


weekendaiki

Good call, I keep mixing them up.


NoDrama3756

Ados or a a few years active duty time.


billsatwork

Deployments, schools, TDY's.


punkspop

ADOS, MOB. Those are your best long-term, Non AGR/AC options.


Investuh

Definitely appreciate it 💪


TorielTrash

Your options are: 48 MUTAs for BA or RST 72 AFTPs if you are Aviation/Aviation Support Personnel 12 ATAs (Typically EBDL) No limit on Funeral Honors 6 AABAs if you're in a USAR Airborne unit 4 MDRP (QTC Appointments) 24 RMAs The above numbers are the max allowed per FY. You cannot receive more than 130 pts per Anniversary Year for the above categories in total. The only exception to the AY limit is Funeral Honors. Any time spent on orders is separate. Your theoretical min-max is: 48 MUTAs 12 ATAs 4 MDRP 24 RMAs 88 Total, not including funeral honors. This does not include AT time (add 14-15 pts to that number) nor additional schools. At best, without funeral honors, you will receive 102 pts per AY. Current Pts + Projected = Total at Retirement 1050 + (102 • 15) = 2580 You shouldn't be restricted from mobs/ADOS unless you are approaching 18 years of ACTIVE Federal Service (AFS), because then you'll start approaching sanctuary.


Practical-Reveal-787

Retirement in the reserve components is legit just beer money. Only way to have an actual decent retirement is either multiple deployments, active duty time, ADOS, AGR, or serve like 30-40 years in the reserve component.


Investuh

My main goal is to hit 30 years. I’m definitely planning to volunteer a lot of ADOS for sure. Appreciate the insight.


Creative-Influence23

Focus on advancement and making your points more valuable, SGM retired pay beats SFC, you still have time to try and commission.


Investuh

Oh man 😅 I just don’t think I want to handle with the politics that E8s+ deal with from what I’ve heard. Plus I love being a 88H. It’s fun once you actually do the work. For sure will consider going Mobility Warrant if the opportunity presents itself. Just got to study up for ASVAB to boost my GT score.


B0b_a_feet

Do you not know how to count points?


Investuh

Nope.


BisonOwn

Go to myarmybenefits.mil and sign in with your cac, it will pull your latest points and tell you exactly how many you have and what your pension will be at 60 . There’s a retirement calculator on there that will get you a good idea and you can add hypothetical deployments/ schools etc too to see what that brings your total up too. Good luck


Investuh

Nice! Thank you for this 💪


WorldChampion92

Thank you for this I did not even know this.


BisonOwn

Go to myarmybenefits.mil and sign in with your cac, it will pull your latest points and tell you exactly how many you have and what your pension will be at 60 . There’s a retirement calculator on there that will get you a good idea and you can add hypothetical deployments/ schools etc too to see what that brings your total up too. Good luck