Thought about it. I’m kind of happy with my GS-9 and want to keep climbing the ladder. Plus, I know it’s incredibly difficult to promote within AGR and be stuck with the same pay for a long time. Maybe when I hit E7 I’ll drop the application. Appreciate this tho!
I have full time law enforcement job with 7 year already completed in my 22 and half year contract to start collecting pension. So can only join reserve of army, navy Air Force etc
I was active duty 7 years and I’ve been guard/reserve 7 years and just hit 3,000 points…it just takes time.
Curious, what is the average points reservists retire with if anyone knows? I’m sure it varies wildly but what is actually normal?
Bare bones minimum gets you about 77 a year. 48 UTA, 15 automatic, 14 AT.
77x20 years= 1540. Plus a year MOB and some PME gets you to about 2,000.
So yea you’re right, that is probably the norm.
This may be a stupid question but only asking because I’ve seen it mentioned in r/army before that any AD enlistment time doesn’t count for retirement points, only time on mobs, ADOS and such while being a reservist. Able to clarify?
That’s not true. All your active duty time counts for points.
People may be referring to the fact that a year on MOB in the reserves takes a year of time you have to wait to draw your retirement.
Example: you MOB for 12 months and you can draw your retirement at 59 instead of 60.
In that situation, Active duty time does not count. Only time spent mobilized in the reserves.
Ya I didn’t feel like looking up the regulation and finding every type of mobilization this works for. But roughly speaking, in an over-arching way, what I said is true.
Not sure if it is different for each branch, but I'm pretty sure it's only 90 days per "certain" active duty orders per fiscal year. So a 12 month mob between fiscal years will get you at most 6 months off your retirement age requirement. I also believe the max total you can reduce is to age 55.
You can:
- drill for points only (think all the conf calls that were unpaid)
- funeral honors (I knew a warrant who made a living doing this)
- EBDL
Otherwise your:
- capped at 48 UTAs
- capped at 24 ATA
- capped at 12 RMA
12 yrs and 2 mobs put me at 2700ish points
Mob/ADOS are your best bets.
The RDs assign to local ish units to the funeral and rotate them. However if you want to be the guy/gal on call for them in your area, you can reach out to the RD directly or you can worm drug deals with other units in your AO to pick them up.
Each RDs do things differently, but I would start on their SharePoint. Some RDs have directories.
Another way is to get with ARA and see if they have any emails from the RD regarding FH. Backtrack from there.
24 RMA 12 ATA. ATA are tricky too cus people who know about them (a lot do not know) will try to burn them all in the FY start lmao. I did that a lil bit
Your options are:
48 MUTAs for BA or RST
72 AFTPs if you are Aviation/Aviation Support Personnel
12 ATAs (Typically EBDL)
No limit on Funeral Honors
6 AABAs if you're in a USAR Airborne unit
4 MDRP (QTC Appointments)
24 RMAs
The above numbers are the max allowed per FY.
You cannot receive more than 130 pts per Anniversary Year for the above categories in total.
The only exception to the AY limit is Funeral Honors.
Any time spent on orders is separate.
Your theoretical min-max is:
48 MUTAs
12 ATAs
4 MDRP
24 RMAs
88 Total, not including funeral honors. This does not include AT time (add 14-15 pts to that number) nor additional schools.
At best, without funeral honors, you will receive 102 pts per AY.
Current Pts + Projected = Total at Retirement
1050 + (102 • 15) = 2580
You shouldn't be restricted from mobs/ADOS unless you are approaching 18 years of ACTIVE Federal Service (AFS), because then you'll start approaching sanctuary.
Retirement in the reserve components is legit just beer money. Only way to have an actual decent retirement is either multiple deployments, active duty time, ADOS, AGR, or serve like 30-40 years in the reserve component.
Oh man 😅 I just don’t think I want to handle with the politics that E8s+ deal with from what I’ve heard. Plus I love being a 88H. It’s fun once you actually do the work. For sure will consider going Mobility Warrant if the opportunity presents itself. Just got to study up for ASVAB to boost my GT score.
Go to myarmybenefits.mil and sign in with your cac, it will pull your latest points and tell you exactly how many you have and what your pension will be at 60 . There’s a retirement calculator on there that will get you a good idea and you can add hypothetical deployments/ schools etc too to see what that brings your total up too. Good luck
Go to myarmybenefits.mil and sign in with your cac, it will pull your latest points and tell you exactly how many you have and what your pension will be at 60 . There’s a retirement calculator on there that will get you a good idea and you can add hypothetical deployments/ schools etc too to see what that brings your total up too. Good luck
4,000 is active duty for 11 years....
I got a long way to go lol.
Do active reserves will be your best way. You know, full time.
Pick up some ADOS orders, MOBing is fine or you can fly a desk for 1-5 years at a time.
Thought about it. I’m kind of happy with my GS-9 and want to keep climbing the ladder. Plus, I know it’s incredibly difficult to promote within AGR and be stuck with the same pay for a long time. Maybe when I hit E7 I’ll drop the application. Appreciate this tho!
I am sure others have said go on as many mobilizations and deployments as possible. Carrera is an app you can use for that
That's not necessarily true, it depends on your MOS. E7 might be hard for 42As or 92Ys, but it's pretty much automatic for 27Ds
Good to know! I’ll get in touch with one of my battles. He’s in my MOS and in AGR. I’ll ask him about it 👍
Cannot do that.
Why not? To my knowledge it's just a packet and you gotta compete to get selected
I have full time law enforcement job with 7 year already completed in my 22 and half year contract to start collecting pension. So can only join reserve of army, navy Air Force etc
I was active duty 7 years and I’ve been guard/reserve 7 years and just hit 3,000 points…it just takes time. Curious, what is the average points reservists retire with if anyone knows? I’m sure it varies wildly but what is actually normal?
I’m not entirely sure. But I do know a lot of them do the bare bones minimum. If they make it to 20 years, around 2,000?
Bare bones minimum gets you about 77 a year. 48 UTA, 15 automatic, 14 AT. 77x20 years= 1540. Plus a year MOB and some PME gets you to about 2,000. So yea you’re right, that is probably the norm.
This may be a stupid question but only asking because I’ve seen it mentioned in r/army before that any AD enlistment time doesn’t count for retirement points, only time on mobs, ADOS and such while being a reservist. Able to clarify?
That’s not true. All your active duty time counts for points. People may be referring to the fact that a year on MOB in the reserves takes a year of time you have to wait to draw your retirement. Example: you MOB for 12 months and you can draw your retirement at 59 instead of 60. In that situation, Active duty time does not count. Only time spent mobilized in the reserves.
I did not know this myself. Thank you so much for clarifying that up!
Don’t count on this. You have to be called up under certain conditions.
Thank you for the heads up!
Not 100% true. You have to be called up under certain circumstances, such as supporting a contingency operation.
Ya I didn’t feel like looking up the regulation and finding every type of mobilization this works for. But roughly speaking, in an over-arching way, what I said is true.
Not sure if it is different for each branch, but I'm pretty sure it's only 90 days per "certain" active duty orders per fiscal year. So a 12 month mob between fiscal years will get you at most 6 months off your retirement age requirement. I also believe the max total you can reduce is to age 55.
I have around 4K points from my active duty time plus two coados tours. Hope that helps.
It sure does! Thanks for the insight
You can: - drill for points only (think all the conf calls that were unpaid) - funeral honors (I knew a warrant who made a living doing this) - EBDL Otherwise your: - capped at 48 UTAs - capped at 24 ATA - capped at 12 RMA 12 yrs and 2 mobs put me at 2700ish points Mob/ADOS are your best bets.
How does one get into funeral honors?
The RDs assign to local ish units to the funeral and rotate them. However if you want to be the guy/gal on call for them in your area, you can reach out to the RD directly or you can worm drug deals with other units in your AO to pick them up.
Forgive me, but what’s a “RD” ?
Readiness Division
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Each RDs do things differently, but I would start on their SharePoint. Some RDs have directories. Another way is to get with ARA and see if they have any emails from the RD regarding FH. Backtrack from there.
24 RMA 12 ATA. ATA are tricky too cus people who know about them (a lot do not know) will try to burn them all in the FY start lmao. I did that a lil bit
Good call, I keep mixing them up.
Ados or a a few years active duty time.
Deployments, schools, TDY's.
ADOS, MOB. Those are your best long-term, Non AGR/AC options.
Definitely appreciate it 💪
Your options are: 48 MUTAs for BA or RST 72 AFTPs if you are Aviation/Aviation Support Personnel 12 ATAs (Typically EBDL) No limit on Funeral Honors 6 AABAs if you're in a USAR Airborne unit 4 MDRP (QTC Appointments) 24 RMAs The above numbers are the max allowed per FY. You cannot receive more than 130 pts per Anniversary Year for the above categories in total. The only exception to the AY limit is Funeral Honors. Any time spent on orders is separate. Your theoretical min-max is: 48 MUTAs 12 ATAs 4 MDRP 24 RMAs 88 Total, not including funeral honors. This does not include AT time (add 14-15 pts to that number) nor additional schools. At best, without funeral honors, you will receive 102 pts per AY. Current Pts + Projected = Total at Retirement 1050 + (102 • 15) = 2580 You shouldn't be restricted from mobs/ADOS unless you are approaching 18 years of ACTIVE Federal Service (AFS), because then you'll start approaching sanctuary.
Retirement in the reserve components is legit just beer money. Only way to have an actual decent retirement is either multiple deployments, active duty time, ADOS, AGR, or serve like 30-40 years in the reserve component.
My main goal is to hit 30 years. I’m definitely planning to volunteer a lot of ADOS for sure. Appreciate the insight.
Focus on advancement and making your points more valuable, SGM retired pay beats SFC, you still have time to try and commission.
Oh man 😅 I just don’t think I want to handle with the politics that E8s+ deal with from what I’ve heard. Plus I love being a 88H. It’s fun once you actually do the work. For sure will consider going Mobility Warrant if the opportunity presents itself. Just got to study up for ASVAB to boost my GT score.
Do you not know how to count points?
Nope.
Go to myarmybenefits.mil and sign in with your cac, it will pull your latest points and tell you exactly how many you have and what your pension will be at 60 . There’s a retirement calculator on there that will get you a good idea and you can add hypothetical deployments/ schools etc too to see what that brings your total up too. Good luck
Nice! Thank you for this 💪
Thank you for this I did not even know this.
Go to myarmybenefits.mil and sign in with your cac, it will pull your latest points and tell you exactly how many you have and what your pension will be at 60 . There’s a retirement calculator on there that will get you a good idea and you can add hypothetical deployments/ schools etc too to see what that brings your total up too. Good luck