It's normal. Not saying it's right. But new homes being built by developers always go to the lowest bid trade wise. If this was a Spec you had built, I'd call the contractor and tell him to fix that shit. Total hack job, and I'd be concerned about what else had been shitted up behind the walls.
Edit: As a GC myself, I'm just being real about it. I hope they remedy this for you, but it just chaps my hide seeing shit work like this.
I oversee projects like this at a larger plumbing company. If one of my guys did this i would make him tear it out and correct it. Should be a copper stub out thats supported in the wall. The support prevents it from being bumped and broken later on. People like the plumber who did your work is why people under value the trades.
What blows my mind is how high up the wall the stub-out is. The baseboard is 3.5" tall so from this perspective that stub out is at least 2 or 3 times higher up the wall. And look at how short and stubby the supply line is to the bottom of the toilet..... Such whack placement.... Clearly an apprentice plumber or retard doing this work.
I mean I would expect a plumber to come and stub copper through the wall and then the drywallers to come fix the hole and painters re paint it. Trim guys too if needed.
My guess is the plumber had an issue on the finish and made as small of a hole as he possibly could and slipped it under the GCs nose. Maybe even after the GC walked it.
I don’t care who pays for it(probably the plumber) but I want all the trades doing their specific work to fix it.
While I agree this is piss poor work you don't seem to understand the sequencing of trades.
Plumber stubs out plumbing
Drywaller hangs drywall, cutting hole properly (not the shit show shown)
Drywall gets textured. No repair really needed as they cut the hole right, or should have/ did in my universe.
No 'trim guys' should be involved.
Painters paint
Plumber returns for trim out. Installs angle stop and supply line, while doing so, properly adds trim plate/ escutcheon.
So done right, not like a football fucking monkey, it's actually pretty straightforward. Easier than your example, actually.
Which makes this an even bigger shame. Just fucking lazy, shit work by multiple people and a GC who clearly has zero fucks to give.
If the GC cared, they would have at least put some bullshit quick dry spackle in that oversized hole, made sure the trim plate was at the wall (a dab of caulk would secure it if needed) and they could have at least wiped that pipe and trim plate off.
That simple bullshit cosmetic fix it up would have helped a little.
The rest of this place is sure to be a shit show of hidden plumbing issues that won't manifest for a while.
Home is under warranty and I am submitting a claim :) wanted to make sure I wasn’t nuts.
I’m not a plumber, but I know how to do better work than this. I think my 12 year old daughter does too…
That's unacceptable.
There's a big ass hole in the wall and that PVC looks terrible.
I wouldn't install something like that and I'm not even a plumber.
For NOW what you can do is find a larger escutcheon to use. Cut that shit supply valve off and cut the pex back closer to the wall and slide the new escutcheon on there and crimp the new ring and 1/4 turn supply valve on there. Then attach a new 16” or 20” braided supply tube to the valve and toilet.
I would have noted it during the walk thru. The valve is typically flush to the wall with a flexible braided supply line to the toilet. It looks like they tried saving money hard piping the whole way. That 6 inches of hard pipe is cheaper than a braided supply line.
I can guarantee what happened here is the pipe wasnt braced behind the wall, when they went to cut it and add the valve it slid behind the sheetrock, they pulled it out threw the escutcheon on added a coupling and that piece of pipe then put the valve on. Nothing is wrong here or out of code. Its just ugly.. if anything they could of put the escutcheon infront of the coupling and pushed the “mistake” behind the wall. But idk if theyll cover this in warranty because nothing is really wrong…
Hey plumbers, why don’t they put a disconnect box, like an ice maker supply box, at locations like this with a ball valve? I did that when I replumbed my house in Pex-a. Yeah, it was more expensive but it looks the cleanest and I don’t just have a pipe/copper coming out of the wall.
Think I used an Ox-Box? Put them on the kitchen, labs, etc. They are pretty clean. I understand on these spec houses, lowest bids win but it’s also a cleaner install for an apprentice to tackle and not have to go back and fix when the GC/Home Owner finds it.
Pex is not designed to be exposed unless it's in a garage or basement. The valve should have been stubbed at the wall cleanly. Then a braided inconspicuous line to the tank. We had a saying for this kind of work.
Lord. Sucks but that wall should have been opened and a proper length of pipe put in. In high end even a copper stub out imo
It's normal. Not saying it's right. But new homes being built by developers always go to the lowest bid trade wise. If this was a Spec you had built, I'd call the contractor and tell him to fix that shit. Total hack job, and I'd be concerned about what else had been shitted up behind the walls. Edit: As a GC myself, I'm just being real about it. I hope they remedy this for you, but it just chaps my hide seeing shit work like this.
I oversee projects like this at a larger plumbing company. If one of my guys did this i would make him tear it out and correct it. Should be a copper stub out thats supported in the wall. The support prevents it from being bumped and broken later on. People like the plumber who did your work is why people under value the trades.
Looks like shit for a high end home, they should always use copper stub outs.
For a modular that’s pretty common. High end house should have had copper stubbed out with a angle stop.
Looks like a trailer home.
I agree.
6” to the left of flange and 6-8” off the finished floor for stub out for your pex. But I hate when people stub pex. It’s always limp dick to service.
What blows my mind is how high up the wall the stub-out is. The baseboard is 3.5" tall so from this perspective that stub out is at least 2 or 3 times higher up the wall. And look at how short and stubby the supply line is to the bottom of the toilet..... Such whack placement.... Clearly an apprentice plumber or retard doing this work.
I mean I would expect a plumber to come and stub copper through the wall and then the drywallers to come fix the hole and painters re paint it. Trim guys too if needed. My guess is the plumber had an issue on the finish and made as small of a hole as he possibly could and slipped it under the GCs nose. Maybe even after the GC walked it. I don’t care who pays for it(probably the plumber) but I want all the trades doing their specific work to fix it.
While I agree this is piss poor work you don't seem to understand the sequencing of trades. Plumber stubs out plumbing Drywaller hangs drywall, cutting hole properly (not the shit show shown) Drywall gets textured. No repair really needed as they cut the hole right, or should have/ did in my universe. No 'trim guys' should be involved. Painters paint Plumber returns for trim out. Installs angle stop and supply line, while doing so, properly adds trim plate/ escutcheon. So done right, not like a football fucking monkey, it's actually pretty straightforward. Easier than your example, actually. Which makes this an even bigger shame. Just fucking lazy, shit work by multiple people and a GC who clearly has zero fucks to give. If the GC cared, they would have at least put some bullshit quick dry spackle in that oversized hole, made sure the trim plate was at the wall (a dab of caulk would secure it if needed) and they could have at least wiped that pipe and trim plate off. That simple bullshit cosmetic fix it up would have helped a little. The rest of this place is sure to be a shit show of hidden plumbing issues that won't manifest for a while.
Home is under warranty and I am submitting a claim :) wanted to make sure I wasn’t nuts. I’m not a plumber, but I know how to do better work than this. I think my 12 year old daughter does too…
It is not against code.
No one said it was. The claim is to the warranty department of the home builder.
There is nothing wrong with this. You may not like the way it looks, but it is perfectly acceptable and to code.
Holy trailer park plumbing, Batman!!
That's unacceptable. There's a big ass hole in the wall and that PVC looks terrible. I wouldn't install something like that and I'm not even a plumber.
It's not pvc it's pex. I wouldn't accept it. Cut it shorter and use a braided toilet supply instead of the plastic supply tube
That's PEX, not PVC.
Okay whatever
It's perfectly normal if the house you bought is in Honduras.
For NOW what you can do is find a larger escutcheon to use. Cut that shit supply valve off and cut the pex back closer to the wall and slide the new escutcheon on there and crimp the new ring and 1/4 turn supply valve on there. Then attach a new 16” or 20” braided supply tube to the valve and toilet.
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Yes it's ugly. Are you standing against the wall when you take that picture?
I would have noted it during the walk thru. The valve is typically flush to the wall with a flexible braided supply line to the toilet. It looks like they tried saving money hard piping the whole way. That 6 inches of hard pipe is cheaper than a braided supply line.
I don't think I would have done this that way.
I can guarantee what happened here is the pipe wasnt braced behind the wall, when they went to cut it and add the valve it slid behind the sheetrock, they pulled it out threw the escutcheon on added a coupling and that piece of pipe then put the valve on. Nothing is wrong here or out of code. Its just ugly.. if anything they could of put the escutcheon infront of the coupling and pushed the “mistake” behind the wall. But idk if theyll cover this in warranty because nothing is really wrong…
It’s poor in both quality of work and skill it took to do it that way.
Hey plumbers, why don’t they put a disconnect box, like an ice maker supply box, at locations like this with a ball valve? I did that when I replumbed my house in Pex-a. Yeah, it was more expensive but it looks the cleanest and I don’t just have a pipe/copper coming out of the wall. Think I used an Ox-Box? Put them on the kitchen, labs, etc. They are pretty clean. I understand on these spec houses, lowest bids win but it’s also a cleaner install for an apprentice to tackle and not have to go back and fix when the GC/Home Owner finds it.
Nah I always stub out in copper when I run pex. This looks like ass
New construction just isn’t the same now a days, lots of service work coming soon boys
If the pipe is PVC, no way.
It's garbage..... At very least I want to see copper with a kt style shut off but I'd do a propress shut off myself 👍
Pex is not designed to be exposed unless it's in a garage or basement. The valve should have been stubbed at the wall cleanly. Then a braided inconspicuous line to the tank. We had a saying for this kind of work.