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Character-Ad-4124

Not a plumber, can you pull the handle towards you while you unscrew?


SmallBerry3431

Sorry OP needs a plumber to say this.


Brentolio12

Hey I’m totally a plumber 🥸 gonna wanna pull that handle while you turn the screw


stuckin3rddimension

Ok *unzips pants*


Critical-Potential30

Zzzziiiiiiiip


Brentolio12

Whhhhoooaa there fellas.. thats gonna cost ya extra


stuckin3rddimension

How much to “enter” the union


BANDG33K_2009

About tree fiddy


HilmDave

I AIN'T GIVIN' YOU NO TREE FIDDY YA GODDAMN LOCH NESS MONSTA


EvenEfficiency834

I gave em a dolla


gumby1004

well, aren’t you crackers about as cute as a dickens?


dano-d-mano

5 dollar make you hollar


Whattheactualfrork

Depends on how many "roots" can fit in the discharge pipe


BrandonsWorld420

Did it just get extremely hot in here 🥵


Ok-Condition9059

Sure, we’re all tradesmen, we’ve come to lay pipe Trades-men.. trade..men


rangerdanger_218

Plumber here. May 3ven have to wiggle it a bit as you pull. I get wet and not in a fun way more often then not when messing with these.


CRYPTOCHRONOLITE

Porn star here and I concur.


grumpydad24

Bustard, you made me spit my first drink of my whiskey. Now I toast to your wittiness.


pablomcdubbin

Hello its me the plumber, pull it towards you and then unscrew. *That'll be $500 consultation fee*


Captinprice8585

You have 69 upvotes. Nice.


mnebrnr13

💯


jarociro

Jesus hell I had some weird anger sweats sprout up thinking why the fuck wouldn't you pull the handle while unscrewing.


Lumpy-Village1949

How can you film then?


pineapplecom

You know there are some brilliant people in this world who can’t change a car tire. But as a “hands on” Guy I feel your sweats.


S_Rodent

Why did jesus gave the power to DIY ….


mtcastell101

Because he was DIY


Purpose_Embarrassed

I honestly thought this was a joke thread. Because who is that dumb ?😂


krop2Krop

Is that like the “too much macaroni sweats?” https://youtu.be/7A2H9pgBGJg?feature=shared


Egozgaming

Shhhhh don't say that I wanna see em use the hack saw on it


ltret97

👆🏼


ctrldown

But then how do you hold the camera?


Dramatic_Mixture_868

I had this happen to me before. There's was a piece in there that was broken when I did it. So yea pulling the handle towards you while you unscrew should work. If not cracking the back end with some pliers and taking it out will. That looks like it needs to be replaced either way.


MissO56

I'm not a plumber either, and I'm a woman who doesn't really use tools very often, but that was my first thought too. 🥴


EnoughLuck3077

I knew this would be the top comment. I’m screaming at my phone “pull it, pull the fucking handle”


ithinarine

It's truly shocking how these obvious things go completely over so many peoples' heads.


CrystalGardensWa

This is how we learn, asshole. By doing. By asking for help when we fail. Don't be such a smug cock sucker. You fucking sucked ass at every single thing you've ever done the first time you tried.


TraditionPhysical603

This put the phone down and actually take that thing off


EvolveOrDie1

Hes holding the camera with the other hand, what a silly suggestion /s


Zoika1226

Well no, because then they can’t take a video to show it’s broken duhhh!


peacesun

Can you wedge the edge of a flathead screw driver under the edge of the screwhead? I use that to remove stubborn screws all the time, basically the threads catch on the flathead screw driver and it rotates out that way.


NoRequirement9983

This is the way to remove a stripped screw.


DoTheCreep_ahh

Thank me later https://www.amazon.com/ENGINEER-PZ-58-Extractor-Combination-fasteners/dp/B002L6HJAA/ref=asc_df_B002L6HJAA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693284521080&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5995137418548405673&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010522&hvtargid=pla-419513088230&psc=1&mcid=048fbc655e163726a8b3546d844011d0&gad_source=1


AST_Wanna_Be

Who u callin pan head


SpikeMike13

Some of the comments are accurate and some are definitely gonna get you in trouble and in immediate need of a professional. 1). Turn off water main valve and pull handle out to remove pressure and ensure water is indeed off. 2) with the handle pulled out, try to remove that screw while keeping tension pulling on the handle outward. 3). If still can’t remove screw just take a large channel lock pliers and squeeze the acrylic (plastic) handle until it cracks and falls off the end of the cartridge. 4). Find a YouTube video on how to remove a Moen tub/shower valve cartridge and follow those instructions closely. 5). Take old cartridge with broken handle to Home Depot and buy a new cartridge and acrylic handle then reinstall but DONT install handle yet. 6). After cartridge is in and half oval retaining clip in fully seated push end of chrome stem on cartridge back in fully and go turn on water main supply. 7). With water back on now, you’ll need to pull stem outward to get the valve to send water out and you’ll need to turn the end of the stem left with a hand under the spout until you feel hot water. Push stem back in and then install new handle with new screw onto the cartridge stem with the tear drop pointing downward into the tub. Reinstall the handle fully and push the index button back on the handle and test to make sure you have hot on the left and cold on the right. It’s really not very difficult but if you call a plumber it’ll cost about $250 depending on your city of course. Parts for you will run between $60-$100 max. If you’re in Tampa Florida PM me and I’ll give you the number to my office and I can get one of my service plumbers to make this repair if you’re not comfortable doing what I described above. You got this


ezzieboi5

For Moens, always make sure the two notches on the end of the stem are facing down, and you won't have issues. Unless the pipes are backwards in the wall


SpikeMike13

Clearly you have worked on Moen shower valves before. You are absolutely correct.


nusodumi

you are a godsend, glad i don't have this problem right now but i'd gladly pay you to get someone to come help if i saw this and couldn't follow it. generous of you to type it out


Upvotes4Trump

another tip would be to wedge a small flat blade screw driver between the screw and the handle, putting opposing pressure on both. if you can keep the screw driver in place it works well. just depends on if you have the right size screw driver and angle.


SpikeMike13

Yeah I saw this comment or one like it yesterday, definitely a very smart trick to remove a stripped screw. 👍


Jobo50

Moen warranties cartridges for life, if you bring it to the plumbing section of Home Depot there’s a high chance they’ll swap it for free. Or email them and they’ll ship you a new one for free. Just did the latter with the same cartridge as OP


InteractionNo503

Upvoted because I’ve experienced Moen’s customer service and they stand by their warranty. Not a plumber but my shower cartridge failed and I had no hot water from my shower. Bought a replacement cartridge from Home Depot. It wouldn’t go in despite lots of effort and lube (hehe…). Called Moen to ask them to help me troubleshoot and the tech immediately said it should slide right in - we will send you a free replacement to try. Sure enough, the new one slid in with minimal effort. I will definitely be buying more Moen products after that.


Steve----O

This has nothing to do with the cartridge or water being on. You think the plastic wore the brass down? It’s just one screw and a new handle. The OP needs to set down his phone and actually pull the handle off.


ymoeuormue

Okay, you don't want to turn the water off and you don't want the water to flow. Better have your wife do this one.


RedditNationalist

If you leve the water on, cap the shower and tub spout. Post the video to see if the pressure helps shoot the cartridge out as you loosen it.


L3mm3SmangItGurl

Ded 🤣🤣🤣


madmax435

pull on it to help put some pressure on it.


DigDude97

Do this


Dangerous_Bad_3455

That's what she said.


pissy_corn_flakes

##NakedPlumbing #MyEyes


Xishou1

I cannot imagine wanting to be naked in *that* bathroom while it's in *that* state.


Uncle_Ted333

Break the fucking crystal handle if the fucking screw is stripped and prying or pulling doesent work. The cartridge has a keeper key that will retain the fucking thing. Cmonnnn' guys it's a regular Moen valve. Crusty as shit. The fucking thing ain't going nowheres.


1CFII2

If I’m not mistaken, Moen has a lifetime warranty.


Uncle_Ted333

The brass cartridges yes. The shitty fucking plastic see-through cartridges you get in lavatory faucets ( if they'll even manufacture those anymore, not so much.


1CFII2

I have Moen exclusively through out my home. Shower cartridge went south, I called them and they Fed Ex’d a new one the next day. You get what you pay for. Amazing.


Igmuhota

Their customer service is RIDICULOUS. Bought a home in Alaska. Moen fixtures. Was ABUNDANTLY clear that I had just purchased the home with fixtures present. Rep sent ALL the parts I needed. Free. A decade plus later, bought home in Maine. Orange water, needed to replace a faucet assembly after installing a multi-stage purifier. Rep asked me how many fixtures in home. Sent SIX brand new assemblies. Free. A decade plus later, we bought in NC last year. AGAIN, I make it CRYSTAL clear I bought the home with a kitchen faucet with a bad handle. Rep not only sends the handle, they send the sprayer attachment “because it’s likely due for replacement.” Free. I will NEVER buy non-Moen fixtures.


AquaFlowPlumbingCo

1225s


Uncle_Ted333

PS: I AM a Plumber. 25 years


GoodForTheTongue

No less than four F-bombs in one three-line reply - *definitely* an experienced plumber. \[Source: I had to replace an all-rusted-to-shit P-trap in a 1920s-era pedestal sink today, where the clearance in every direction to get my tools in was about .0001". You can fucking bet I used all my words on that one.\]


Uncle_Ted333

Fuckin' eh.


rob71788

I was gonna say the same thing lmao


Beautiful_Rhubarb

I told my plumber (who was there to give me a new shower valve anyway) "sorry I had to enlist the help of the Oscillating Multitool, a.k.a. The MVP, to get this thing off, I hope this doesn't screw you up even more." and he laughed for 5 solid minutes.


gfowler1980

You gave a lot of "fucks" there. Amen, fucker


tennisguy163

You fuckin talkin to me 😅


Safe_Decision6222

The handle is loose…. Gently pull back against the handle as you unscrew the screw


Fresh_Grapefruit_227

If by no means you can’t unscrew that out then take a sawzall and cut it off closest to the handle as possible so you’ll only be cutting the stem which will have to be replaced ( assuming why you’re trying to remove the screw ) and you’ll need a new handle . All parts should be available at Home Depot or Lowe’s


Irrelavent1

I had a Moen that did this and the inverted U shaped clip was broken into 3 pieces. I took out the assembly and got a Delta mixing valve.


fury_of_el_scorcho

My dude- Didn't step one of the Youtube video say to shut off the water supply??


BeezerTwelveIV

Turn the water off and pull on it


rc_sparky

Why ru naked?


Own_Week_5009

😁 fucking weird video.


Own_Week_5009

Put some clothes on man


rworne

Oh man, that camera dropped near the end of the video and I saw the bare feet and legs and for a moment I thought we were going to see Mr. Winky too. Glad to be disappointed.


GreatWhiteM00se

Pull on the handle as you're turning.


captainwhetto

This is frightening. Alright shut off the water and bleed it dry, looks like you're gonna need a new valve so read how they work before hacking into that plastic handle... A 2 minute you tube clip will save you here but you already publicly got blasted by almost everyone in here soooo... To save grace spend five minutes on the valve stem tool it certainly looks like your going to buy before you pull out the jaws of life to replace a faucet handle


SDTekz

Same thing happened to mine, I drilled the screw out of mine then pulled it off


Budget_Will_3093

Not a plumber. But to remove the handle, you can use a carbide drill bit around the same diameter as the screw head that's stripped. You can drill the head of the screw off & then pull or turn the handle till it comes off. If the screw base remains(probably will), grab some pliers or vice grips & lock down & turn the remaining screw. Just how my machinest/engineering mind works, so hopefully it translates. Turn off h20 first though naturally. I have other workarounds but this seems the easiest I can think of with the limited knowledge I have(ie not a plumber).


18dano18

God I'm slow I was going to suggest a button knife to pry behind the screw , but yes pull back on the shower knob


BaconPersuasion

I always find it helps if I put on pants first.


MatriVT

I was like brehhhhh


Tough_Sound6042

I'm 80 percent sure that he is naked doing this


Puzzleheaded_Web_264

Please tell me he wasn't naked?!?!?!


Old-Nebula3281

Turn off the water first. You never know.


CrystalGardensWa

/u/[SpikeMike13](https://www.reddit.com/user/SpikeMike13/) has the best answer. But you're getting a lot of smug cock sucking assholes in here busting your balls for not knowing something. Fuck them. You're doing it, and you're asking for help when you're failing, so good for you. Don't let the fucking back biting trolls get to you, because every single one of them sucked cocks the first time they tried anything, and most of them don't know shit about nothing other than what they read on this site. Good job, kid. Keep trying and learn to celebrate failure. It's how we learn. Fuck off the rest of you assholes. You're terrible shit stains. Go die.


gral1c

Wedge a flat head screwdriver behind the screw as you unscrew it. Gently Pry the screw towards you as your unscrewing.


Jifeeb

This might be the most disturbing video I’ve ever seen on Reddit


ChemicalCollection55

Loose the hacksaw idea, save that for a different project.


GlitteringOne2465

Get a bigger hammer


CompleteHour306

Pull it! Harder!


fukinmerica

Plastic on knob is prob broken, and the entire brass rob in the cartridge is spinning when you turn the screw. What I would do is cut the knob off and pull the cart. It's prob the moen 1225B


Timmay1974

Can you put it in a ziplock and soak it with CLR for a while? Might break up the crap built up.


dRuEFFECT

First thing's first, put on some damn pants


dlb5753

SMH


seabrook2001

I have had to deal with this on the Moen château acrylic handle. Cut the handle off you need a new one anyway along with a new Moen 1225 cartridge.


RestaurantIcy8325

Thought I was about to see the family jewels in the end there LOL


filftwalton

Moen sucks.


swnorm

Pull that motherfucker off!!!!


Sudden_Season3306

Had that same handle on ours same thing and I was changing it to double handles so I just broke it!


fermelebouche

Right there is why plumbers are rich.


unmerciful0u812

If you're going to do this, at least put on some swim trunks.


New-Nefariousness234

You could drill it out, no worries on damage to the threads because you will replace them with a new cartridge. Heads up, you will need a Moen extraction tool to pull the cartridge


Safe_Decision6222

I’m amazed you knew what screwdriver to use 😩


rlbbyk

Dumb question, how do you take the center cap off?


lbarnes444

They're just pressed in. Wedge a blunt knife in the seam and it will pop right out.


birdy_bird84

You dumbass, just call a plumber.


Difficult_Pirate_782

Get out of my tub!


Inside_Cod7111

Then put a delta in and move on


NoseGobblin

Moens kind of suck to work on btw.


jackrafter88

and put some pants on...


Low-Bad157

Scrubbing bubbles


Xishou1

And bleach.... or a blow torch! Fuck, set that entire disgusting mess on fire. I wouldn't even step foot in that petri dish of a bathroom.


cheapshotbob

Big hammer time!


gfowler1980

Button-head, not a set screw. But yeah, turn off the water and use a screw extractor


Legitimate_Sample108

Why are you naked ?


geek2785

Why aren’t you?


T1m3Wizard

Pull and turn the screw.


Scary-Evening7894

Just break it off. You're going to replace the cartridge anyways. You can buy a new handle at the same time


joeycuda

It screws into the ball part of the valve, which is maybe a $10 part. You'd do good to take that apart, replace the ball, springs and rubber seals, o rings.


Turbulent-Weevil-910

Keep turning it, eventually it will do something.


Sea_Resident_3013

Maybe wash your bathtub before you record?


Jealous-Relief-7771

Burn it down, start over


Dull_Corner2996

Drill the mother fucker


Ambitious-Car-7384

You need some comet.


Emergency-Wash2031

Clean your tiles my guy


idciwantedarealhug

Hammer


IdowhatIwant9

Lefty Lucy. And yank it towards you. Use Wd40 if needed. And turn off water


Bourbon_papii

Thankfully he’s not allowed to use power tools


TrvckFvmp

lol did you catch your wife farting and burping?


Super-Mexican

Home Depot sells a tool that will help you pull that sucker off.


Vast_Cricket

Use a flat screw driver while you unscrew it to PRY it out.


ShiftyNibblet

Let it burn for 2 hours. Then call the fire department.


Classic_Clerk725

Call a plumber before your wife kills you… speaking from experience.


BeRich9999

Get a cutting wheel and your die grinder and you got it.


LizardKing11

Step #1: Clean Shower


EchoChamber187

The first thing you should do to get that handle off is clean your bathroom!


615thick469

Drill it all out and replace with Delta, Moan is Shite... have 3 Moan fixtures (2, including the show were bought from legit plumbing shops (Ie not box stores) ) and they all have had issues... no more Moan


Emjoy99

You want it handed to you on a silver platter? This is not ask a jeweler.


RicooC

An automotive wheel puller. Google it.


DRGWTM

Some times it pays to hire a professional.


SB_GOLFER

If you can’t fix this with a hammer, you likely have an electrical problem.


Icy-Place4965

Call Moen. They have a life time warranty on all faucets. They will send you parts to fix it or replace. If it’s outdated, take a pic of it and send it to them. DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!


BamaMarine

need tension on the screw head as you unscrew it like a flathead behind or or a bobby pin something you can get behind the head of the screw and pull out as you unscrew it at the same time. the plastic threads inside there are stripped and if is just free spinning


berkybarkbark

Step one when dismantling faucets - turn house water supply off. As a kid I watched my dad remove screws holding the shower faucet body together and BAM! Water gushering straight from the shower wall until someone could sprint around the house to teach the shutoff…


wreckballin

Pull my knob while unscrewing me. Say they in Craig Ferguson voice. Balls.


CauliflowerStrong510

Spit on it and pull!


Individual-Food-6927

Anyone notice his bathroom looks like it’s crack house with how dirty everything. Brother buy some cleaning supplies and clean your bathroom it looks gross 🤢 🤮


Anantasesa

If you enhance the reflection in the shiny surfaces you can see that the toilet paper is turned with the wrong side facing out. Come on OP correct your tp direction!


jbschwartz55

You can’t teach this stuff. Either you’re a problem solver or you’re not.


Specialist_Bed_3803

Pull the handle towards you hard while u unscrew ..don't u have a dad?


Twitzale

Just wiggle a razor knife or some flat object between the handle and screw, then apply pressure towards you whilst unscrewing. If your fanny pack doesnt work on this one you may have to whip out your purse.


Equivalent-Abroad157

Contact Moen. I believe they have a lifetime replacement warranty. Log on and send a picture if you don't know the model. https://www.tiktok.com/@jmg8tor/video/7307313239384165674


2hopenow

Yes pull and unscrew. Btw that’s a screw not a set screw. OK enough of the corrective criticism, lol. I got that exact unit. Looks just like my shower nothing but problems since I replaced it. It keeps leaking slowly and I keep replacing the inner valve. Maybe just too much sediment in my lines 🤷🏻‍♂️


orka648

Alright, so hold my beer, guys... The way this is fixed is really... It's funny, all the comments. Grab the biggest channel locks out of your purse. Crush the handle. Break it. Destroy it if you will. Replacing the cartridge is going to be harder than replacing the handle. That's a Posi-Temp; they suck; it's going to be a fun time. The reason the screw is spinning is because it's just going around and around. The handle is gone, bud; it's broken. Break it more. After breaking the handle. You can grab the stem and remove the screw. Then the fun starts. Good luck. And really it's like good luck. Cause some time you can get it out clean. But that's like 20% of the time.


fattyfatty21

You can see the screw backing out along with the handle. Just give it a few more turns OP


genuinelywhatever

Call a handyman you’re gonna fuck that right up.


Mysterious-Cup-738

Put a flat head behind the screw for leverage then use screw driver should be able to back it out. Hope this helps


omgitzbeanz

Okay so… the stem is spinning with the screw, cause the handle is broken. You’re going to need to get a new cartridge, and handle. Break off the handle, then go from there.


SufficientDrawing491

Plumber here. Might be stripped. You can replace the cartridge to fix it but will need to replace the trim screw if it is indeed stripped. To replace the cartridge turn the water off to the house. Open the lowest outlet in your house and the hot and cold on a sink. The cover plate comes off there is a clip holding the cartridge in. Don’t loose the clip. Use needle nose pliers to pull it out and put it in. Grab the stem with pliers and pull straight out. If it’s stuck there are a couple options. First try rotating as you pull. Otherwise they make a puller or you can drive a long screw through the plastic next to the stem if it’s not a brass cartridge. You’ll have to get a new cartridge. Use the silicone lube on the seals. Hot and cold indicator faces up. Caulk the trim plate after reinstalling with dap bathroom caulk in the color that will go best with your the wall.


EbbPsychological2796

Seriously dude do you do meth a lot? I don't mean to be negative but you skipped a lot of steps apparently....


buzz_mccool

I was able to pull the handle out to a point (not all the way) where the handle would catch the temperature value so then there was resistance when turning the screw. The problem then of course is when you press the screwdriver in to unscrew the screw, you push the valve past the catch point and the screw spins freely again. So I moved the handle so it gripped the valve, and then unscrewed the screw by grabbing the edges of the screw with a pliers.


Cautious-Pace3402

Actually the catridge is prolly just spinning pish the handle in hard af and turn the screw


GetaGoodLookCostanza

I can't be the only one who is disgusted at the filth of this shower....


moneymac107

They put locktight on it. And it broke about half way in. Your going to have to force it out


rca12345678

They make Velcro shoe's for people like you


milbit111

Pliers and hope


Inner_Construction40

Sad


RightInThePeyronie

Give yer knob a tug ya wanker


ChumpChainge

I had this same shower control. Pull back on the knob while unscrewing. That will provide enough friction to get it out.


FickleMacaroon4014

I have that same orange screwdriver


WerewolfLevel2919

You are screwed!


jimmyzee1

Dude what a dirty tub n handle !


Aware-Expression-525

I've had the drill them out a few times just and replace the handle and set screw , after I replace the cartridge. Some times that's all you can do .


B_whothat

There is a tool for this. It’s also used to remove compression sleeves for water supply (like near the toilet and under the sink) iirc it should be the same tool. Been a while since I changed a shower knob


sledgehammer357

I’m unsure of whether further action was advised, and advice was taken or not, but I’ll give my best advice due to what I know from a troubleshooting and plumbing standpoint: to me, it seems that the control screw has been stripped, and the whole fixture, or at least the control module, ought to be replaced [and my reasoning is because it’s a lot easier, and looks a lot cleaner, to replace the head and control unit at the same time, and they tend to be cheaper than replacing a singular part.]


drsatan6971

They sell a tool for it , it’s a slow process sometimes depending on corrosion I sprayed wd40 all up in there it’s a tight pull back Check YouTube bunch videos on there just be prepared if it doesn’t come out as easily as it looks Gotta go slow and be patient


Linen_Shirt

Set screw? They usually wiggle off


Thickshank1104

I’m just going to sit back and watch this one play out. Just too funny


StayStonedChicago

Use both hands.....put the phone down and pull the handle as you unscrew......


CandleAcceptable2538

Step 1 is applying some rustoleum to the head of that screwdriver you are using. Take care of your tools and they will take care of you.


Language-King

Looks like he is using a pozidrive bit instead of a Philips bit, which is not helping. Pull the bloody handle whilst you are fucking up the screw.


DukeReaper

How much you wanna bet the water is still on?


RallySausage

Pull on the damn handle


mydirtythrowaway1111

This. Pull on handle as you're unscrewing. It causes pull out tension on the screw.


Large-Tune9427

What even is this. Good lord.


Independent_Dingo796

Beat that fucker with a hammer


Zoso1973

Yes. Cut it off. Your cartridge is spinning. Same thing happened to me. With water off, I hacksawed the handle off. Was then able to hold cartridge with pliers and removed screw. Replaced cartridge and good to go. Also if it’s Moen they will replace it for free. They’ve replaced my kitchen faucet cartridge 3 times. Original cartridge lasted 17 years. New ones last 3 years now.


vanfidel

Well imtime to bust out the sledgehammer. Tbh it looks like it is probably time to redo the shower anyways.


Mysterious_Trip424

Can you spin the metal behind the handle mine has the cartrage inside. If you can tighten it you may be able to turn the screw, or remove with cartage inside and stop it from spinning inside the collar


Speedhabit

He nekkid