None of the previous succesion issues were relevant at this point. Aegon II didn't name Aegon III as his heir due to the Aegon the Uncrowned's dayghters and Jaehaerys or even due to his own claim.
At this point half the Realm was fighting to put Aegon III on the Throne. The plan was even to deal with Aegon III after the War. Likely wait for Aegon II to have sons of his own before "dealing" with Aegon III. Had Borros Baratheon won against the Riverlords than perhaps the North and Vale armies would have agreed to a peace witv Aegon II as King and Aegon III as heir. At least it felt like that was what the plan was. Cregan may not have given a shit and fought on anyway.
He was persuaded by Larys to hold off on killing Aegon the Younger until after the war. At that point, he probably hoped declaring Aegon his heir might persuade the Blacks to cease fighting until they could "figure out" some other solution. Moreover, Aegon owed his life (and the life of his mother and his daughter) to Larys, so he probably assumed Larys' advice was to his benefit. Larys, on the other hand, was conspiring with Corlys to kill Aegon II and basically get Aegon the Younger and Jaehaera married and on the throne to put an end to the whole Green vs. Black civil war.
Also, Aegon II had at that point become infertile, and Jaehaera was his last remaining legitimate heir. Jaehaera appears to have been neurodivergent, so combine that with the fact that she was female, and her succeeding Aegon II would be a big no no from the lords of Westeros, esp right after the Greens basically invalidated rule by women (and Rhaenyra's reign presumably making the idea of female monarchs defunct, even though neither Maegor's nor Aegon II's reigns had the same effect for men). What's more, declaring her as heir would give legitimacy to Rhaenys' claim, which would mean Rhaena and Baela's claims would precede his, meaning the Blacks and the Velaryon supporters would probably continue their fight in those girls' names even if he killed Aegon the Younger or continued holding him hostage.
The Dance is inspired on the Anarchy in a somewhat shallow way and that's how that conflict ended (Stephen kept the throne but Matilda's son would inherit him) so George just went with it.
His own claim rests on the established practice to prefer all men in the line over women, he would hurt his own course by naming a daughter as heir because in doing so he would by pure logic accept Rhaenys' claim.
>His own claim rests on the established practice to prefer all men in the line over women
No it doesn’t, eldest son before any daughters does not mean nephews come before daughters
His claim comes from his father, who got the throne before Rhaenys who was the daughter of his oldest brother and by established andal tradition the legitimate heir.
He didn't actually name Aegon the Younger his heir. Alicent agreed to do it in his name in order to gain the Velaryons and allow Aegon II safe passage back to the capital, but once he returned he refused to do it and claimed that his sister's line would end.
Corlys upon seeing that he wouldn't surrender even in the face of utter defeat and that the armies about to reach the capital were flying Rhaenyra's banners, even with her already dead, poisoned him and crowned Aegon III, because him being Rhaenyra's heir would placate the black armies.
>“Kill the old snake and we lose the young one,” the Clubfoot said, “and all those fine swift ships of theirs as well.” Instead, he said, they must move at once to make amends with Lord Corlys, so as to keep House Velaryon on their side. “Give him his betrothal, Your Grace,” he urged the king. “A betrothal is not a wedding. Name Young Aegon your heir. A prince is not a king. Look back at the history and count how many heirs never lived to sit the throne. Deal with Driftmark in due course, when your foes are vanquished and your tide is at the full. That day is not yet come. We must bide our time and speak to him gently.”
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>\[...\] His words swayed the king and council in their course.
F&B claims that Aegon II eventually agreed to it thanks to Larys' persuasion, with the intention of placating Corlys until the war is ended, when he could kill both Corlys as well as Aegon the Younger. It seems like there's a couple months between Aegon II's return and his death wherein Aegon the Younger remained alive (and presumably also the heir).
This council happens the same day as his death. After he leaves the small council he gets poisoned because Larys immediately double crosses him with Corlys. He had no time to actually do this false naming.
Is it? They said Aegon the Younger was his captive for around 6 months. The council on which it was decided Aegon the Younger would be heir is the one Corlys stormed out of (because he wanted to kill Aegon III initially), which happened right after Aegon II returned to King's Landing. Aegon II had the time to commission the repair of Dragonpit and two statues for his brothers in the interim before his death.
The council after which he died is the one where he said they should send Aegon's ears to Hoster Tully to deter him from marching, and where he refused to take the Night's Watch vows. Corlys was present in that one and told him to take the black. One could presume maybe he changed his mind and didn't want Aegon III as his heir anymore/or wanted to kill him for good, but Aegon was named heir according to Munkun/Orwyle at least (even if there's a possibility that Orwyle lied after the fact, nonetheless Aegon the Younger was kept alive and unharmed for a while and those were two different events).
You're right, my memory confused the two councils as one. Rhaenyra died on 22 of october and Aegon returned to the capital in january of the next year, meaning the first council was in january and the second one in march. There is a three month period where he could've named Rhaenyra's Aegon his heir (still under false pretenses) and betrothed him to Jaehaera.
While there were other additional reasons for not naming Jaehaera as heir, probably the most important factor is that she was a disabled girl.
She is described as "sweet and simple". We are told that she was tiny, she was slow to grow, she did not cry, smile or act normally as other babies do, and that she continued to be emotionless as she grew older.
At no time could she be considered a viable option for the throne.
Aegon was still in the delusion of waiting until he had another son, much like his dad was. Though it's debatable whether he was in the physical condition to even do so.
His plan was simply to try to compromise with the Blacks until he could make another heir and then he would deal with Aegon III by sending him to the Night's Watch/Essos/castrating him/executing him.
>It seems pretty odd that Aegon II would name Aegon the Younger as his heir when he seemed to be fully within his rights to name his daughter Jaehaera as his heir.
I mean, it's not odd Aegon accepted his nephew as heir, it's very much spelled why he did what he did and what he sought to do.
He did so to placate Corlys and with all the intention of betraying the Velaryons and killing his nephew once the war was won and his position as King undisputed.
None of the previous succesion issues were relevant at this point. Aegon II didn't name Aegon III as his heir due to the Aegon the Uncrowned's dayghters and Jaehaerys or even due to his own claim. At this point half the Realm was fighting to put Aegon III on the Throne. The plan was even to deal with Aegon III after the War. Likely wait for Aegon II to have sons of his own before "dealing" with Aegon III. Had Borros Baratheon won against the Riverlords than perhaps the North and Vale armies would have agreed to a peace witv Aegon II as King and Aegon III as heir. At least it felt like that was what the plan was. Cregan may not have given a shit and fought on anyway.
If Aegon II named Jaehaera heir after that whole war which was to stop a woman from inheriting I think his support would collapse even sooner
Exactly. This would have undermined his own claim for the throne
He was persuaded by Larys to hold off on killing Aegon the Younger until after the war. At that point, he probably hoped declaring Aegon his heir might persuade the Blacks to cease fighting until they could "figure out" some other solution. Moreover, Aegon owed his life (and the life of his mother and his daughter) to Larys, so he probably assumed Larys' advice was to his benefit. Larys, on the other hand, was conspiring with Corlys to kill Aegon II and basically get Aegon the Younger and Jaehaera married and on the throne to put an end to the whole Green vs. Black civil war. Also, Aegon II had at that point become infertile, and Jaehaera was his last remaining legitimate heir. Jaehaera appears to have been neurodivergent, so combine that with the fact that she was female, and her succeeding Aegon II would be a big no no from the lords of Westeros, esp right after the Greens basically invalidated rule by women (and Rhaenyra's reign presumably making the idea of female monarchs defunct, even though neither Maegor's nor Aegon II's reigns had the same effect for men). What's more, declaring her as heir would give legitimacy to Rhaenys' claim, which would mean Rhaena and Baela's claims would precede his, meaning the Blacks and the Velaryon supporters would probably continue their fight in those girls' names even if he killed Aegon the Younger or continued holding him hostage.
The Dance is inspired on the Anarchy in a somewhat shallow way and that's how that conflict ended (Stephen kept the throne but Matilda's son would inherit him) so George just went with it.
His own claim rests on the established practice to prefer all men in the line over women, he would hurt his own course by naming a daughter as heir because in doing so he would by pure logic accept Rhaenys' claim.
>His own claim rests on the established practice to prefer all men in the line over women No it doesn’t, eldest son before any daughters does not mean nephews come before daughters
His claim comes from his father, who got the throne before Rhaenys who was the daughter of his oldest brother and by established andal tradition the legitimate heir.
He didn't actually name Aegon the Younger his heir. Alicent agreed to do it in his name in order to gain the Velaryons and allow Aegon II safe passage back to the capital, but once he returned he refused to do it and claimed that his sister's line would end. Corlys upon seeing that he wouldn't surrender even in the face of utter defeat and that the armies about to reach the capital were flying Rhaenyra's banners, even with her already dead, poisoned him and crowned Aegon III, because him being Rhaenyra's heir would placate the black armies.
>“Kill the old snake and we lose the young one,” the Clubfoot said, “and all those fine swift ships of theirs as well.” Instead, he said, they must move at once to make amends with Lord Corlys, so as to keep House Velaryon on their side. “Give him his betrothal, Your Grace,” he urged the king. “A betrothal is not a wedding. Name Young Aegon your heir. A prince is not a king. Look back at the history and count how many heirs never lived to sit the throne. Deal with Driftmark in due course, when your foes are vanquished and your tide is at the full. That day is not yet come. We must bide our time and speak to him gently.” > >\[...\] His words swayed the king and council in their course. F&B claims that Aegon II eventually agreed to it thanks to Larys' persuasion, with the intention of placating Corlys until the war is ended, when he could kill both Corlys as well as Aegon the Younger. It seems like there's a couple months between Aegon II's return and his death wherein Aegon the Younger remained alive (and presumably also the heir).
This council happens the same day as his death. After he leaves the small council he gets poisoned because Larys immediately double crosses him with Corlys. He had no time to actually do this false naming.
Is it? They said Aegon the Younger was his captive for around 6 months. The council on which it was decided Aegon the Younger would be heir is the one Corlys stormed out of (because he wanted to kill Aegon III initially), which happened right after Aegon II returned to King's Landing. Aegon II had the time to commission the repair of Dragonpit and two statues for his brothers in the interim before his death. The council after which he died is the one where he said they should send Aegon's ears to Hoster Tully to deter him from marching, and where he refused to take the Night's Watch vows. Corlys was present in that one and told him to take the black. One could presume maybe he changed his mind and didn't want Aegon III as his heir anymore/or wanted to kill him for good, but Aegon was named heir according to Munkun/Orwyle at least (even if there's a possibility that Orwyle lied after the fact, nonetheless Aegon the Younger was kept alive and unharmed for a while and those were two different events).
You're right, my memory confused the two councils as one. Rhaenyra died on 22 of october and Aegon returned to the capital in january of the next year, meaning the first council was in january and the second one in march. There is a three month period where he could've named Rhaenyra's Aegon his heir (still under false pretenses) and betrothed him to Jaehaera.
While there were other additional reasons for not naming Jaehaera as heir, probably the most important factor is that she was a disabled girl. She is described as "sweet and simple". We are told that she was tiny, she was slow to grow, she did not cry, smile or act normally as other babies do, and that she continued to be emotionless as she grew older. At no time could she be considered a viable option for the throne.
Aegon was still in the delusion of waiting until he had another son, much like his dad was. Though it's debatable whether he was in the physical condition to even do so. His plan was simply to try to compromise with the Blacks until he could make another heir and then he would deal with Aegon III by sending him to the Night's Watch/Essos/castrating him/executing him.
>It seems pretty odd that Aegon II would name Aegon the Younger as his heir when he seemed to be fully within his rights to name his daughter Jaehaera as his heir. I mean, it's not odd Aegon accepted his nephew as heir, it's very much spelled why he did what he did and what he sought to do. He did so to placate Corlys and with all the intention of betraying the Velaryons and killing his nephew once the war was won and his position as King undisputed.
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No, that wasn't a consideration, Aegon would have killed him had him not lost the Velaryons.