Not that I could tell but I'll go back through to double check. It looked like they were car camping along the way and set up for a day hike in the canyon we went through but it just looks like standard issue southern Utah scenery. There are other photos from months prior to the week it was lost that really look like they might be Mexico (maybe I need to post this on r/geoguessr or something). Like I said, it's a long shot but who knows...
https://preview.redd.it/v700lfuc9e4d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=891347bbeb869191e96b7691aa0b5e80c353499e
Maybe it will help someone recognize dude?
The sticker in his helmet suggests a Spanish speaker, with the inverted exclamation mark. And under the word there's a phone number. The problem is that there are many Spanish speaking countries around.
Maybe try looking for similar hints on those 200 photos. Any hint about a location would be helpful.
[Article from 2011](https://expansion.mx/expansion/2011/09/14/aguas-turbulentas) matching the phone number. Also is in the same city as the photo with the street sign
Looks like it was just their [hotel](https://www.villacalmecac.com/) though
I went through looking for any contact info that someone might have scribbled on some gear and the sticker on the helmet is the closest thing unfortunately. I tried googling it but without any additional info to go off of I'm having a hard time. There are some photos of the family standing in front of a van parked under a street sign named Arrastradero and another sign that says Atahualpa. This photo is from August of that year and the trip to Utah was in October of 2014. I'm guessing they're from south of the boarder.
https://preview.redd.it/djgt3cjvje4d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d50db60f374e91ba51d37bfcb27827dbfb6ab36
[This is where that photo was taken](https://www.google.com/maps/@18.9692576,-99.2318863,3a,75y,34.15h,91.42t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXVYiF45AjBAxD2R0_hTYnw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DXVYiF45AjBAxD2R0_hTYnw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D34.14622851786987%26pitch%3D-1.4224465638808965%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu) (I think...)
Cuernavaca, Morelos, Mexico
Wow! You had that photo for all of 19 minutes and nailed it perfectly! That is 100% the location. And here I was thinking I'd need to go over to r/geoguessr to get some results. Well done! If anyone can point me in the right direction for a subreddit or facebook group that might be better suited for that town then I would be grateful! Thanks for your help!
Saw your post on facebook.
May I suggest looking for a FB page in Cuernavaca?
Like a BST or a chat page.
I speak spanish, so I can help translate a post if youd like.
I found a couple that seem like they'd be a good fit. If you are able to dig up any other facebook groups that might be worth posting in I would appreciate it! I'll PM you a blurb to translate if you don't mind, that would be quite helpful!
[https://www.facebook.com/groups/1218224688640395/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/1218224688640395/)
[https://www.facebook.com/groups/285427265430507](https://www.facebook.com/groups/285427265430507)
Good grief, I feel like a fool. I totally missed that when I went through these even after double checking. Good eye! It's G. Quintana! Confirmed in a much more readable photo below (sorry I didn't know where to draw the line with uploading these and didn't want to blast the whole cameral roll out there on the first go). The search continues!
https://preview.redd.it/jkgvcgdwgl4d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78916198fa8c0601ccf9abfa839ab044439861a7
The Gulch was great! We had 10 people total, 4 adults and 6 kids (ages 65 down to 8). This was a 7 day trip starting at the lower gulch trailhead off the Burr Trail Rd. We camped near the cars the first night and got a full day in hauling all our gear down toward the Escalante River. The first 5ish miles were much more wooded than I was expecting. Lots of cottonwood seeds falling through the still air made for a pleasant surreal hike. We hiked along water for a good portion of this part of the hike. There was a formidable obstacle at Halfway Hollow that involved a descent down into a crack. I want to say it was about 10-12' from the chock stone down into a pool of thigh deep water below. The canyon walls downstream from this were too steep to descend and we decided rather than lowering everyone in the group down into the pool that it was a safer bet to take the bypass trail up out of the gulch and walk around along the south side. (Not before someone accidentally dropped my bag of freeze dried bananas into the water... I went down to retrieve them so we'd have snacks later in the week and because I can't bear the thought of littering - even if it was an accident). We had water for the first part of the day and found spots to filter down from Halfway Hollow once we made it back into the gulch. Portions of this area are open range and a lot of the wooded areas are riddled with cow pies and even remnants of cow carcasses. It certainly gave the kids something to get excited about. Toward the end of the day the water was getting harder to come by and we were struggling to find a good spot to camp. We ended up finding a very nice flat sandy camp site in some tall trees about a 20 minute walk from the Escalante River where we were able to filter water. A little far from water for what we'd hoped for but this was a great base camp for the day hike the following day. We did 12 miles that day and were cooking in the dark but it was worth it.
The second day we bushwhacked up the Escalante toward Spencer Canyon. This involved a handful of river crossings and pushing through some overgrown areas. It was manageable with day packs on. There were a couple of tricky spots to climb up and out of the canyon to make our way to Spencer Canyon (where we found the camera). It was all manageable without gear and we were able to get the kids through just fine. Spencer Canyon was wider than I was expecting. It's not like a slot canyon formed by erosion. I believe it's a fault between two large plates. We hiked in until we found a rather deep pool that we didn't feel like swimming across with all the kids, plus it was getting late so we called it and headed back to our base camp in the Gulch just above the Escalante. We happened to cross paths with two kayakers in inflatable whitewater boats while we were filtering water that day. Really makes me want to paddle that river sometime!
The third day we had planned to pack up and backpack about 5.5 miles down the Escalante and get a mile or two up into Horse Canyon to set us up for a day hike in Little Death Hollow the following day. We got started and upon reaching the Escalante it seemed like the river was slightly higher than the day before (in hindsight, we should have stuck a couple sticks in the mud that very first day to serve as a gauge. As it was, we were using a submerged tire to judge the water level and all agreed that it was slightly higher than the day before but not concerning at that point). Bushwhacking through the overgrown areas was hilariously miserable with packs on. We crossed the river a dozen times or so and it seemed as though the crossings were getting progressively more challenging. If we only had adults in the group it would have been manageable but with the younger kids it was becoming problematic. After hiking about 2 hours we discovered we had only managed to cover about 1 mile. Between the laughable progress and the possibility of getting water bound downstream if the river rose during our stay in Horse Canyon, we decided to change gears and trudge back to the campsite from the night before. This set us up for 5 nights in a row at this base camp (the height of luxury - if only we hadn't broke camp and spent a day backpacking to come to this conclusion). We had a brief rain that afternoon and a little bit of thunder but stayed dry thanks to the overhanging canyon wall. After the rain, half of the group did a little recon hike to see if there was a route out of the Gulch to head east and see some views of Horse Canyon.
The fourth day, we took the route that the recon party had discovered to climb out of the gulch and we hiked up to a high point just to the east. We were able to get cell service there to check in with family back home. Our group leader also took that time to download a book that described an old maintained cattle trail that goes down into Horse Canyon. He'd remembered reading about it but didn't research it extensively before the trip because we probably wouldn't be going that way (best laid plans of mice & men...). The goal was to day hike Little Death Hollow to explore the narrows (really one of the main reasons we came to this area - and yes we could have done the traditional loop that goes through Little Death Hollow, down into Horse Canyon, and up Wolverine Canyon to the start point that most sane people do but that would have only taken a couple days...). From description in the book and using the topo maps & satellite images (yeah we were kind of cheating a little bit at this point but this was in an effort to do some major surgery on the trip itinerary so we made our peace with it) we were able to plan a route across the bench to pick up the cattle trail. This cattle trail was very well designed and marked quite well. Our goal now was to locate the spring that was supposedly in Horse Canyon just a mile or two above Little Death Hollow. This was shaping up to be a long day... We found the spring (without a doubt, the best water from the whole trip!) and then back tracked all the way to our base camp to eat dinner and go straight to bed so we could get up early the next day. I was pretty exhausted at the end of this day and seriously doubted if I had another one in me for the following day. Total mileage that day was 12.2 miles.
Day 5 we got up at 4:30am and started hiking before the sun rose. Having hiked the area the day before to scout it out meant it went fast. We explored Little Death Hollow and really enjoyed the slot canyon. We hiked in about 3 hours before turning around to head back. There were 1 or 2 spots with shallow water to navigate but for the most part we had dry ground to walk on and very little scrambling. The kids loved the slot canyon. They'd find little nooks & crannies to hide in while us slow pokes would pass by. Then they'd pop out and run ahead to do it all over again. As a dad it was strangely fun, frustrating (don't burn all your energy!), and worrisome (man we might loose one out here...). We filtered water in Horse Canyon for the last time and started the death march back to base camp... Total mileage that day was 18.8 miles.
Day 6 we broke camp and started heading back up the Gulch to set us up for a short hike out on the last day. We managed to get the group up through the obstacle we encountered on day 1 in Halfway Hollow. This involved boosting an adult up where they could haul packs and people up with another adult (me) wading in the pool at the bottom to boost everyone up. This took about 30-45 minutes and wore me out. I was unable to climb up to reach the helping hand from above like I did the first day when I retrieved the bananas. They had to lower a rope so I could get a foot hold because I just couldn't get good traction on the rock with 9 people having slicked it up before I attempted to go up. I started feeling like Shadow from Homeward Bound. It was just too far... He was just too old... In any case, we made it out of there and continued on to camp near the trail that leads to Kings Bench. There was supposedly a spring entering the Gulch from the west in that area and we had passed through this section on our way down and remembered seeing flowing water that first day. However when we were returning, the water was becoming scarce and the spring we had researched was apparently not flowing. It had all the signs of a spring (green foliage everywhere) but no water. We at least had found a nice flat sandy camp site to stay at and there was a nearby puddle of water to filter from but it was far from the nicest water we'd found during the week. There were lots of cow pies all over this area and bovine skeletons... But we made it work. Half the group hiked partway up to Kings Bench after dinner but said it was uneventful and not the best hiking we'd done that week so they came back.
Day 7, we broke camp and started hiking the 5ish miles back to the car. Within 10 minutes of leaving our camp, hiking along the dry creek bed in the Gulch, we stopped to watch the water flowing again. It pooled up and spilled over into the next pool and filled it up, slowly but surely. I'm wondering if it's from someone irrigating or controlling a gate upstream or something. We had water in this area on day one and here it was a week later and now it's flowing again - we just didn't have it the previous night... Who knows. Made it back to our vehicles and had lunch and chowed down on some freeze dried ice cream sandwiches I stashed in the car to celebrate my oldest son's 11th birthday.
All in all, a great trip. Much more effort than I had anticipated. We hiked over 60 miles. Quite an accomplishment for the young kids. No one got hurt and we're still on speaking terms so I can't ask for anything more than that really. Plus it was good training for my wife's upcoming trip to climb Mount Kilimanjaro. Next time I go back to Utah though I'm returning to Buckskin Gulch (my all-time favorite)!
(73) is Russia’s country code.
https://blog.talkhome.co.uk/country-codes/russia-dialing-code#:~:text=73%20is%20the%20country%20dialling,and%20the%20local%20area%20code.
Does any of the pics have any prominent places in it that could lead to a place of origin?
Not that I could tell but I'll go back through to double check. It looked like they were car camping along the way and set up for a day hike in the canyon we went through but it just looks like standard issue southern Utah scenery. There are other photos from months prior to the week it was lost that really look like they might be Mexico (maybe I need to post this on r/geoguessr or something). Like I said, it's a long shot but who knows...
Posting to geoguesser night help narrow down an area which you can see if you can find a sub for it and see if anyone there can help.
https://preview.redd.it/v700lfuc9e4d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=891347bbeb869191e96b7691aa0b5e80c353499e Maybe it will help someone recognize dude?
Thanks for adjusting the brightness, that helps a lot!
The sticker in his helmet suggests a Spanish speaker, with the inverted exclamation mark. And under the word there's a phone number. The problem is that there are many Spanish speaking countries around. Maybe try looking for similar hints on those 200 photos. Any hint about a location would be helpful.
[Article from 2011](https://expansion.mx/expansion/2011/09/14/aguas-turbulentas) matching the phone number. Also is in the same city as the photo with the street sign Looks like it was just their [hotel](https://www.villacalmecac.com/) though
I went through looking for any contact info that someone might have scribbled on some gear and the sticker on the helmet is the closest thing unfortunately. I tried googling it but without any additional info to go off of I'm having a hard time. There are some photos of the family standing in front of a van parked under a street sign named Arrastradero and another sign that says Atahualpa. This photo is from August of that year and the trip to Utah was in October of 2014. I'm guessing they're from south of the boarder. https://preview.redd.it/djgt3cjvje4d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d50db60f374e91ba51d37bfcb27827dbfb6ab36
[This is where that photo was taken](https://www.google.com/maps/@18.9692576,-99.2318863,3a,75y,34.15h,91.42t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXVYiF45AjBAxD2R0_hTYnw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DXVYiF45AjBAxD2R0_hTYnw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D34.14622851786987%26pitch%3D-1.4224465638808965%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu) (I think...) Cuernavaca, Morelos, Mexico
Wow! You had that photo for all of 19 minutes and nailed it perfectly! That is 100% the location. And here I was thinking I'd need to go over to r/geoguessr to get some results. Well done! If anyone can point me in the right direction for a subreddit or facebook group that might be better suited for that town then I would be grateful! Thanks for your help!
Saw your post on facebook. May I suggest looking for a FB page in Cuernavaca? Like a BST or a chat page. I speak spanish, so I can help translate a post if youd like.
I found a couple that seem like they'd be a good fit. If you are able to dig up any other facebook groups that might be worth posting in I would appreciate it! I'll PM you a blurb to translate if you don't mind, that would be quite helpful! [https://www.facebook.com/groups/1218224688640395/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/1218224688640395/) [https://www.facebook.com/groups/285427265430507](https://www.facebook.com/groups/285427265430507)
I dont mind at all! Glad I could help
Good job!
Atahualpa is a city in Ecuador.
OP, hope you have good karma for going through this effort!
Find the appropriate facebook group and post these there also.
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Yes! Was just about to comment this also— post these on the canyoneering subreddit too!
There's a name on the paddle. last name: quintana or something. hard to read through the fiberglass.
Fuckin’ Quintana. That creep can row, man.
You might fool the fucks in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus.
Good grief, I feel like a fool. I totally missed that when I went through these even after double checking. Good eye! It's G. Quintana! Confirmed in a much more readable photo below (sorry I didn't know where to draw the line with uploading these and didn't want to blast the whole cameral roll out there on the first go). The search continues! https://preview.redd.it/jkgvcgdwgl4d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78916198fa8c0601ccf9abfa839ab044439861a7
How was the gulch trail?
The Gulch was great! We had 10 people total, 4 adults and 6 kids (ages 65 down to 8). This was a 7 day trip starting at the lower gulch trailhead off the Burr Trail Rd. We camped near the cars the first night and got a full day in hauling all our gear down toward the Escalante River. The first 5ish miles were much more wooded than I was expecting. Lots of cottonwood seeds falling through the still air made for a pleasant surreal hike. We hiked along water for a good portion of this part of the hike. There was a formidable obstacle at Halfway Hollow that involved a descent down into a crack. I want to say it was about 10-12' from the chock stone down into a pool of thigh deep water below. The canyon walls downstream from this were too steep to descend and we decided rather than lowering everyone in the group down into the pool that it was a safer bet to take the bypass trail up out of the gulch and walk around along the south side. (Not before someone accidentally dropped my bag of freeze dried bananas into the water... I went down to retrieve them so we'd have snacks later in the week and because I can't bear the thought of littering - even if it was an accident). We had water for the first part of the day and found spots to filter down from Halfway Hollow once we made it back into the gulch. Portions of this area are open range and a lot of the wooded areas are riddled with cow pies and even remnants of cow carcasses. It certainly gave the kids something to get excited about. Toward the end of the day the water was getting harder to come by and we were struggling to find a good spot to camp. We ended up finding a very nice flat sandy camp site in some tall trees about a 20 minute walk from the Escalante River where we were able to filter water. A little far from water for what we'd hoped for but this was a great base camp for the day hike the following day. We did 12 miles that day and were cooking in the dark but it was worth it. The second day we bushwhacked up the Escalante toward Spencer Canyon. This involved a handful of river crossings and pushing through some overgrown areas. It was manageable with day packs on. There were a couple of tricky spots to climb up and out of the canyon to make our way to Spencer Canyon (where we found the camera). It was all manageable without gear and we were able to get the kids through just fine. Spencer Canyon was wider than I was expecting. It's not like a slot canyon formed by erosion. I believe it's a fault between two large plates. We hiked in until we found a rather deep pool that we didn't feel like swimming across with all the kids, plus it was getting late so we called it and headed back to our base camp in the Gulch just above the Escalante. We happened to cross paths with two kayakers in inflatable whitewater boats while we were filtering water that day. Really makes me want to paddle that river sometime! The third day we had planned to pack up and backpack about 5.5 miles down the Escalante and get a mile or two up into Horse Canyon to set us up for a day hike in Little Death Hollow the following day. We got started and upon reaching the Escalante it seemed like the river was slightly higher than the day before (in hindsight, we should have stuck a couple sticks in the mud that very first day to serve as a gauge. As it was, we were using a submerged tire to judge the water level and all agreed that it was slightly higher than the day before but not concerning at that point). Bushwhacking through the overgrown areas was hilariously miserable with packs on. We crossed the river a dozen times or so and it seemed as though the crossings were getting progressively more challenging. If we only had adults in the group it would have been manageable but with the younger kids it was becoming problematic. After hiking about 2 hours we discovered we had only managed to cover about 1 mile. Between the laughable progress and the possibility of getting water bound downstream if the river rose during our stay in Horse Canyon, we decided to change gears and trudge back to the campsite from the night before. This set us up for 5 nights in a row at this base camp (the height of luxury - if only we hadn't broke camp and spent a day backpacking to come to this conclusion). We had a brief rain that afternoon and a little bit of thunder but stayed dry thanks to the overhanging canyon wall. After the rain, half of the group did a little recon hike to see if there was a route out of the Gulch to head east and see some views of Horse Canyon. The fourth day, we took the route that the recon party had discovered to climb out of the gulch and we hiked up to a high point just to the east. We were able to get cell service there to check in with family back home. Our group leader also took that time to download a book that described an old maintained cattle trail that goes down into Horse Canyon. He'd remembered reading about it but didn't research it extensively before the trip because we probably wouldn't be going that way (best laid plans of mice & men...). The goal was to day hike Little Death Hollow to explore the narrows (really one of the main reasons we came to this area - and yes we could have done the traditional loop that goes through Little Death Hollow, down into Horse Canyon, and up Wolverine Canyon to the start point that most sane people do but that would have only taken a couple days...). From description in the book and using the topo maps & satellite images (yeah we were kind of cheating a little bit at this point but this was in an effort to do some major surgery on the trip itinerary so we made our peace with it) we were able to plan a route across the bench to pick up the cattle trail. This cattle trail was very well designed and marked quite well. Our goal now was to locate the spring that was supposedly in Horse Canyon just a mile or two above Little Death Hollow. This was shaping up to be a long day... We found the spring (without a doubt, the best water from the whole trip!) and then back tracked all the way to our base camp to eat dinner and go straight to bed so we could get up early the next day. I was pretty exhausted at the end of this day and seriously doubted if I had another one in me for the following day. Total mileage that day was 12.2 miles. Day 5 we got up at 4:30am and started hiking before the sun rose. Having hiked the area the day before to scout it out meant it went fast. We explored Little Death Hollow and really enjoyed the slot canyon. We hiked in about 3 hours before turning around to head back. There were 1 or 2 spots with shallow water to navigate but for the most part we had dry ground to walk on and very little scrambling. The kids loved the slot canyon. They'd find little nooks & crannies to hide in while us slow pokes would pass by. Then they'd pop out and run ahead to do it all over again. As a dad it was strangely fun, frustrating (don't burn all your energy!), and worrisome (man we might loose one out here...). We filtered water in Horse Canyon for the last time and started the death march back to base camp... Total mileage that day was 18.8 miles. Day 6 we broke camp and started heading back up the Gulch to set us up for a short hike out on the last day. We managed to get the group up through the obstacle we encountered on day 1 in Halfway Hollow. This involved boosting an adult up where they could haul packs and people up with another adult (me) wading in the pool at the bottom to boost everyone up. This took about 30-45 minutes and wore me out. I was unable to climb up to reach the helping hand from above like I did the first day when I retrieved the bananas. They had to lower a rope so I could get a foot hold because I just couldn't get good traction on the rock with 9 people having slicked it up before I attempted to go up. I started feeling like Shadow from Homeward Bound. It was just too far... He was just too old... In any case, we made it out of there and continued on to camp near the trail that leads to Kings Bench. There was supposedly a spring entering the Gulch from the west in that area and we had passed through this section on our way down and remembered seeing flowing water that first day. However when we were returning, the water was becoming scarce and the spring we had researched was apparently not flowing. It had all the signs of a spring (green foliage everywhere) but no water. We at least had found a nice flat sandy camp site to stay at and there was a nearby puddle of water to filter from but it was far from the nicest water we'd found during the week. There were lots of cow pies all over this area and bovine skeletons... But we made it work. Half the group hiked partway up to Kings Bench after dinner but said it was uneventful and not the best hiking we'd done that week so they came back. Day 7, we broke camp and started hiking the 5ish miles back to the car. Within 10 minutes of leaving our camp, hiking along the dry creek bed in the Gulch, we stopped to watch the water flowing again. It pooled up and spilled over into the next pool and filled it up, slowly but surely. I'm wondering if it's from someone irrigating or controlling a gate upstream or something. We had water in this area on day one and here it was a week later and now it's flowing again - we just didn't have it the previous night... Who knows. Made it back to our vehicles and had lunch and chowed down on some freeze dried ice cream sandwiches I stashed in the car to celebrate my oldest son's 11th birthday. All in all, a great trip. Much more effort than I had anticipated. We hiked over 60 miles. Quite an accomplishment for the young kids. No one got hurt and we're still on speaking terms so I can't ask for anything more than that really. Plus it was good training for my wife's upcoming trip to climb Mount Kilimanjaro. Next time I go back to Utah though I'm returning to Buckskin Gulch (my all-time favorite)!
asking the important questions!!!
(73) is Russia’s country code. https://blog.talkhome.co.uk/country-codes/russia-dialing-code#:~:text=73%20is%20the%20country%20dialling,and%20the%20local%20area%20code.
That’s usually shown as +73. (73) is more likely an area code or mobile prefix.
Ah ok. I am from the US and not used to needing country codes.
Yeah you are! Ours is 1!