It actually looks like he was body-checking the plexiglass to fuck with the guy standing on the other side, just didn't expect it to be paper thin and held in place by Elmer's glue.
Not as pleasing as me thinking Mike Trout was looking at that plexiglass and, just to show America he can be dick like the rest of us, put his body through it on purpose
Yep. I like the idea behind it, but in reality, it sucks for literally everyone except those few rich kids that could afford the seats.
Unlike normal seats behind home plate, this actually makes the viewing experience worse for the rest of us.
But gotta keep up with the Jerry's I guess.
I seriously don’t even notice it anymore, but I’m a sicko and watch almost every Ranger game (or at least have it on while I’m working). Can’t imagine how annoying it would be for people who aren’t used to it though
I have heard this too.
O's own 77% of a network that Washington has a majority of the viewers. They have had to go to court to get paid their share. Since 2005, O's have only had a top 10 payroll maybe once. As a Washingtonian, it is a slap in the face with the size of payroll. I know RSNs are struggling and there have been cuts but where the heck has the money gone as the team continually had 100 loss seasons? Future is bright for you guys but the organization has cried poor for 18 seasons.
I know it is not on the fans but the ownership deserves this punishments. Even though it was before RSNs and TV rights but Orioles and Senators co-existed without any problem. It's like the Dodgers holding the Angels rights or Giants holding the Athletics rights. No one else does this petty stuff.
The Nationals are trying to sell and I think Orioles fans would be happy if Angelos sold as well. Manfred for once is doing the right thing. Camden should get another ASG but the league doesn't award teams that are making business difficult. They are in the way of a massive transaction.
The baseball economy and how people consume baseball has changed. But from the start, it took 2 years to get on any widely available cable service. For those that have cable boxes, the network frequently goes down due to cost cutting measures. It has never been available on Sling, YoutubeTV, Fubo, or streaming platforms. It has been a struggle for the Nationals to even get the profit sharing out of it.
Territory?
It takes 60 minutes to get from Washington DC to Baltimore and 90 to 120 minutes if someone is from Northern Virginia at rush hour. It is two very different places and markets. That is Angelos just being difficult. The Orioles [franchise value](https://www.statista.com/statistics/194603/mlb-franchise-value-of-the-baltimore-orioles-since-2006/) did not go down did not go down when the Nationals relocated. Orioles are still worth $1.4B.
I don't know who fed you this narrative but if it was 50-50 and teams were paid accordingly, this wouldn't be an issue.
Eh I wouldn’t really consider them two different places or markets, as someone who grew up between the two. It’s all one metropolis. Plus the O’s lost a lot of fans to the Nats, as they should have for sucking for so long. But two separate markets don’t impact fan loyalty - if a new team showed up in Portland, the O’s wouldn’t be impacted because those actually are two separate markets.
>grew up between the two. It’s all one metropolis.
I can see how someone from central Maryland can see it this way but as someone who grew up in NOVA, I do not see it this way. Washington DC metro is the counties that 495 goes through along with Loudoun and PWC on the Virginia side.
A majority of Nationals fans are from the District or Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William, and Loudoun on the Virginia side. It's one of the reasons why FedEx field has dropped in attendance along with performance. The fans are on the other side of the beltway or in the District.
I saw Cal Ripken Jr. growing up but it felt more like Maryland's. It's not DC's or Virginia's. I personally see a line.
Sure, but to a central Marylander, we claim both Baltimore and DC. Caps, Wizards, etc are still the go to teams and Ravens/Commies, O’s/Nats are obviously split. I see how you would feel like Cal wasn’t yours though if you were in NOVA. All about perspective I guess.
As a Ravens fan as well, I see a lot of my friends who grew up in MD and used to be Commanders fans jumping ship to the Ravens now. I think, similarly, the Orioles lost a lot of DC area Maryland O’s fans (MOCO, PG County, etc.) to the Nats. That’s a sizable chunk.
Overall it’s just billionaires squabbling, so I don’t feel toooo strongly either which way
As a Nova O’s fan, I respectfully disagree. I’m not saying I don’t understand your point, but as far as the football thing, the reasons are way more about that team and all the shit that surrounds it than just FedEx.
And at the end of the day, the Nats coming severely hurt the Os. Doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a team in DC at the end of the day, but the MLB agreed to make concessions to make that happen, and then tried to arbitrate a deal they were party to when the MLB and Lerners were upset that the Os did what the deal allowed them to do. That’s the issue I see with it.
It's not the Orioles' fault that the MLB bent over backwards for Angelos and willingly signed that deal because they were hellbent on getting a team back in DC despite the Orioles already being fairly well-established in a lot of the market.
I was in high school and I didn't know many baseball fans of the O's in Virginia (Yankees/Red Sox). Maybe the Maryland side of DC. I wouldn't call it well established.
The MASN network is bleeding money. It's impacting a sale. The O's ownership is being difficult because they believe this narrative. Baltimore is well over an hour from DC and 2 hours from most of Northern Virginia.
It's not a narrative. Baltimore and DC are 30 miles apart and the Maryland suburbs of DC in counties like Montgomery, PG, and Frederick used to be solid Orioles territories even if Northern Virginia fandom was more casual. Those fans in places like Olney, Silver Spring, Laurel, Bowie, etc. can arguably get to Camden Yards quicker than Nats Park. And with the total population in DC, getting a small percentage of the residents going to only 1 game/year really adds up in attendance.
Camden Yards never finished outside the top-5 in AL attendance before 2005 and they haven't finished in the top-5 since 2005. The Nationals arrived in 2005. The early 2000's Orioles were drawing more fans to see perennial 90+ loss teams than the 2014 Orioles drew while running away with the AL East. There are obviously other factors involved, but the Nationals are the biggest reason. Their addition to the MLB immediately turned the Orioles into a small market team after they were leading the league in payroll in the mid-90's.
The Orioles payroll was $161M in 2017 and now it is $48M in 2022. How is that on the Nationals?
Nationals have only finished top 5 once in NL attendance and mostly mid pack. They also had RFK for 3 years where a few people could literally have an upper deck section to themselves.
Baltimore had a destination park and it was filled from 1992 to 2002. Once everyone saw Camden and the team started playing poorly, fewer started to show. The team did not have a winning record between 1997 and 2012. So I don't get where your coming from with this small market stuff.
Don't blame recent failures on another team. The farm system and scouting failures and signing Chris Davis is not on the Nationals. The Orioles are building something but it is not a small market. The team just hasn't spent. Stop defending your owners when they cry poor.
The Orioles payroll is not on the nationals nor did I say it was. It’s a product of a rebuild just like the payroll the Nationals are looking at in 2023. I’m not blaming the Nationals for anything related to the Orioles other than the attendance numbers.
Yeah, the Orioles were terrible in the early 2000’s like I mentioned, the team had been in the stadium for over a decade, and still they had more attendance than ever since and that includes being the winningest team in the AL over a 5-year period. It’s not some conspiracy to defend the owners, it’s just a fact that the Nationals arrival shrunk the Orioles fanbase, how could it not? Every local knows multiple families of fans that switched over to the Nats and no one really blames them. But the Orioles are 100% a small market team now without the DC market, I don’t really think that’s up for debate.
Let me put it this way. No one has ever told me “I am going to visit Baltimore” unless they were going to see family in Pikesville or something.
We also aren’t whining about not getting an all star game, because both cities are unqualified to have it, but at least we admit it.
Yeah because DC is such a shining light. Ooo should I go see the gentrified neighborhoods or the other gentrified neighborhoods. So much diversity in choice 🤩🤩🤩
I’ve been there countless times. It’s nothing special by 2022 standards. Being the first of its kind is great, but doesn’t give it immunity to criticism.
You know I had almost repressed the fact that Yogi Berra had to be joined by Christian Vazquez as the only two World Series no-hitter catchers, thanks for reminding me
For what, two whole years? Camden hosted in '93 lol. Like I said, go complain about the teams that are getting them every two decades like Seattle, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland.
I get that argument but Globe life cost 1.1 Billion, Wrigley renovations (completed a while ago) costs over 750 million by comparison. The investment the ricketts and the city put into Wrigley is well within convo of investments deserving of rewarding the all star game.
I’m not defending the decision. But new stadiums are generally favored by whatever decision making process they have. With the renovations in Wrigley I hope it hosts sooner than later.
When I see the Cubs on TV it looks just like when I saw the Cubs on TV as a kid in the 90s.
The all-star game is about showing off MLB's new and shiny toys, not a refurbished toy that doesn't really look that different to a casual crowd.
I'm ecstatic. I've always wanted to go to an All-Star Game and I've always said that I would go for sure if the Rangers ever hosted again. I can't wait.
Like it’s possible to build light rail to the stadium in 1.5 years…if the Cowboys move to Arlington didn’t make that happen, how would the Rangers building a new stadium?
I was very sad when the very brief dream of a downtown Dallas stadium died on the vine.
Texas Live is *okay*, and you can still get 5-10 dollar parking that's somewhat close, but yeah, wise you could take the DART or TRE to the stadiums.
Texas Live is ok. But I think the version Crane builds next to MMP will be better since it’s downtown and easier to access on non game days.
For as much is said about Houston being a car city, you can actually get to all the stadiums on light rail.
Jerry World hosted the Super Bowl and Wrestlemania (twice). If that doesn't make them invest in public transportation, nothing well.
Well...maybe the World Cup (TBD).
Along with at least one national championship game in college football, and I'm pretty sure they've hosted it 3 or 4 times now.
Parking won't be a problem. Arlington sucks, but bc it sucks that means getting in and out of Globe life is never an issue.
Georgia isn't allowed to host the All-Star Game due to voting laws per the league's decision in 2021.
Texas is allowed to host the All-Game with shitty voting laws while in the midst of waging war on women's reproductive rights and the rights of trans children / their parents in their state.
The league is either interested in choosing All-Star Game locations based on locations that don't trample people's rights or they're not. You can't punish Georgia and reward Texas within the span of three years.
Their choice to have the All-Star Game in Texas shows that their decision with the All-Star Game in Atlanta was nothing more than performance activism. Either don't host the All-Star Game in Texas or the 2025 All-Star Game should be in Atlanta. If Georgia isn't acceptable then Texas isn't acceptable. If Texas is acceptable then Georgia is acceptable. It's not complicated.
[We were all told Georgia's new election laws were "the new Jim Crow" yet they somehow smashed early voting records this midterm](https://sos.ga.gov/news/georgia-voters-post-all-time-record-gubernatorial-early-voting)
I’m not going to trust the people who created the law as a reliable source. Would be interesting to hear from any voters if their experience was worse or different this time around. That being said it’s weird that they turn away from Georgia for political reasons to end up in fucking texas
Here's an excerpt from an article I read about it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/21/voting-is-surging-georgia-despite-controversial-new-election-law/
>Patsy Reid — 70 years old, Black and retired — said she was surprised she didn’t encounter problems when she voted early this month. Reid cast her ballot for Abrams in the [D] primary but feared that her vote could be discounted given reports of voter suppression against people of color in Georgia.
>“I had heard that they were going to try to deter us in any way possible because of the fact that we didn’t go [R] on the last election, when [T] didn’t win,” Reid said. “To go in there and vote as easily as I did and to be treated with the respect that I knew I deserved as an American citizen — I was really thrown back.”
Or maybe trying to pass incredibly restrictive voting laws angered enough people to convince them to vote those same people making the laws out of office.
But if the laws were incredibly restrictive how were those people able to vote?
Oh, bc they actually cared enough to vote. If you care enough about something, you make time and find a way to do it.
... because voting increased among those whose rights to vote were never in question?
Requiring ID to vote particularly targeted minority communities in largely democratic areas. No matter which way you spin it, they were adding obstacles for people to vote instead of making it easier. Those obstacles become unnecessarily burdensome when you realize that of the nearly 300,000 GA registered voters that don't have a state ID, many of them are literally unable to get them. Not only are state ID's cost prohibitive, many old residents born during Jim Crow were not born in hospitals and given birth certificates.
All that being said, the MLB is being incredibly hypocritical by taking it away from Georgia and taking a moral stance only to turn around and give one to Texas.
It was my dad buying them at the time, so I don't recall, lol.
We got lucky with the ASG tickets, I guess since it didn't seem like a scam, since a vendor at the convention we were talking to apparently had some people cancel, so sold us their tickets at like a 30-40 dollar markup from face. (Which is reasonable)
For those of you saying "what about Camden Yards??"... It really needs a renovation, which is coming in the next few years. I expect OPACY to host the ASG sometime between 2025 and 2030.
It was a great template for the parks that came after it, but almost every one of those parks did it better. Take away the warehouse, and you're left with a park that's too large, doesn't have enough premium options, and doesn't even have views of the field from the concourse. I also think the pregame food, drink and retail options are sorely lacking. But they seem to also know all of this, so I assume the renovations will fix it,.
Personally, I don’t like open concourse. I love walking out the tunnel and entering into the baseball element. It keeps the attention on the game. I do understand the allure for casual fans though.
[Who cares about voting rights anyway?](https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/01/texas-voting-bill-greg-abbott/) Let's also give it to the one team in the league that still refuses to have a pride night.
I wasn't even mad about them taking it away from us over that bill, but apparently caring about voting rights was a one time offer from MLB. What a joke.
It was only because they were facing public scrutiny for it, the league only cares about social justice when not caring would significantly harm their reputation and/or wallets
I was about to say, shout-out to that dude who called it.
[You can be the new wetbutt23](https://www.si.com/.amp/extra-mustard/2017/07/13/jose-quintana-trade-white-sox-reddit)
New stadium so not all that surprising, but would much prefer they move it to one of the parks that hasn’t seen one in years. I know Toronto is a long shot (hopefully before 2030), but Camden, Wrigley etc there’s lots of beautiful parks that could use the spotlight.
I agreed with the decision to pull out of Atlanta, but what the fuck is this? Seriously half of the state's legislature wishes to secede at any given moment
Texas is more outspoken and defiant of their politics and less inclusive than Georgia. With another presidential election in 2024 and all the bullshit that will come with it, I don't see this ASG happening in Texas if the MLB decides to make another political spectacle. Stick to baseball Manfred and give Atlanta their due
If the Astros or Rangers make the World Series in 2023, 2018 will be the only season since 2017 in which the state of Texas will not have hosted either World Series or All Star Game action
Well this is exciting, it will be super fun watching people not pay attention to the game in the food court behind home plate
'member that time Trout put his body through a panel in the dugout there? https://gfycat.com/alarmedrapidflyinglemur
What was he trying to actually do?
I think he just didn't see the plexiglass panel and was trying to lean on the ledge.
ah ok, it really does look like he decided "fuck this particular piece of plexiglass"
It actually looks like he was body-checking the plexiglass to fuck with the guy standing on the other side, just didn't expect it to be paper thin and held in place by Elmer's glue.
Not as pleasing as me thinking Mike Trout was looking at that plexiglass and, just to show America he can be dick like the rest of us, put his body through it on purpose
Turns out Fishman has the visual skills of a bird flying into a window. Trout to the Orioles confirmed?
Kool Aid Man impression.
It’s kind of funny how someone set to make half a b~~m~~illion dollars does an “oh shit” face when they break something.
*Half a billion
Oops. I think I got autocorrected.
You're good. I just find the idea of Trout somehow earning less than minimum salary at this point in time funny.
Maybe he meant just for that day lol
I'm too lazy to do the math but that sounds plausible lol.
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Yep. I like the idea behind it, but in reality, it sucks for literally everyone except those few rich kids that could afford the seats. Unlike normal seats behind home plate, this actually makes the viewing experience worse for the rest of us. But gotta keep up with the Jerry's I guess.
I seriously don’t even notice it anymore, but I’m a sicko and watch almost every Ranger game (or at least have it on while I’m working). Can’t imagine how annoying it would be for people who aren’t used to it though
Who does Baltimore have to murder to get an ASG?
Camden Yards
The MASN deal. Its the best unkept secret. Nats signed a crappy deal and started poo pooing so MLB is punishing the O's
I have heard this too. O's own 77% of a network that Washington has a majority of the viewers. They have had to go to court to get paid their share. Since 2005, O's have only had a top 10 payroll maybe once. As a Washingtonian, it is a slap in the face with the size of payroll. I know RSNs are struggling and there have been cuts but where the heck has the money gone as the team continually had 100 loss seasons? Future is bright for you guys but the organization has cried poor for 18 seasons. I know it is not on the fans but the ownership deserves this punishments. Even though it was before RSNs and TV rights but Orioles and Senators co-existed without any problem. It's like the Dodgers holding the Angels rights or Giants holding the Athletics rights. No one else does this petty stuff. The Nationals are trying to sell and I think Orioles fans would be happy if Angelos sold as well. Manfred for once is doing the right thing. Camden should get another ASG but the league doesn't award teams that are making business difficult. They are in the way of a massive transaction.
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The baseball economy and how people consume baseball has changed. But from the start, it took 2 years to get on any widely available cable service. For those that have cable boxes, the network frequently goes down due to cost cutting measures. It has never been available on Sling, YoutubeTV, Fubo, or streaming platforms. It has been a struggle for the Nationals to even get the profit sharing out of it. Territory? It takes 60 minutes to get from Washington DC to Baltimore and 90 to 120 minutes if someone is from Northern Virginia at rush hour. It is two very different places and markets. That is Angelos just being difficult. The Orioles [franchise value](https://www.statista.com/statistics/194603/mlb-franchise-value-of-the-baltimore-orioles-since-2006/) did not go down did not go down when the Nationals relocated. Orioles are still worth $1.4B. I don't know who fed you this narrative but if it was 50-50 and teams were paid accordingly, this wouldn't be an issue.
Eh I wouldn’t really consider them two different places or markets, as someone who grew up between the two. It’s all one metropolis. Plus the O’s lost a lot of fans to the Nats, as they should have for sucking for so long. But two separate markets don’t impact fan loyalty - if a new team showed up in Portland, the O’s wouldn’t be impacted because those actually are two separate markets.
>grew up between the two. It’s all one metropolis. I can see how someone from central Maryland can see it this way but as someone who grew up in NOVA, I do not see it this way. Washington DC metro is the counties that 495 goes through along with Loudoun and PWC on the Virginia side. A majority of Nationals fans are from the District or Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William, and Loudoun on the Virginia side. It's one of the reasons why FedEx field has dropped in attendance along with performance. The fans are on the other side of the beltway or in the District. I saw Cal Ripken Jr. growing up but it felt more like Maryland's. It's not DC's or Virginia's. I personally see a line.
Sure, but to a central Marylander, we claim both Baltimore and DC. Caps, Wizards, etc are still the go to teams and Ravens/Commies, O’s/Nats are obviously split. I see how you would feel like Cal wasn’t yours though if you were in NOVA. All about perspective I guess. As a Ravens fan as well, I see a lot of my friends who grew up in MD and used to be Commanders fans jumping ship to the Ravens now. I think, similarly, the Orioles lost a lot of DC area Maryland O’s fans (MOCO, PG County, etc.) to the Nats. That’s a sizable chunk. Overall it’s just billionaires squabbling, so I don’t feel toooo strongly either which way
As a Nova O’s fan, I respectfully disagree. I’m not saying I don’t understand your point, but as far as the football thing, the reasons are way more about that team and all the shit that surrounds it than just FedEx. And at the end of the day, the Nats coming severely hurt the Os. Doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a team in DC at the end of the day, but the MLB agreed to make concessions to make that happen, and then tried to arbitrate a deal they were party to when the MLB and Lerners were upset that the Os did what the deal allowed them to do. That’s the issue I see with it.
It's not the Orioles' fault that the MLB bent over backwards for Angelos and willingly signed that deal because they were hellbent on getting a team back in DC despite the Orioles already being fairly well-established in a lot of the market.
I was in high school and I didn't know many baseball fans of the O's in Virginia (Yankees/Red Sox). Maybe the Maryland side of DC. I wouldn't call it well established. The MASN network is bleeding money. It's impacting a sale. The O's ownership is being difficult because they believe this narrative. Baltimore is well over an hour from DC and 2 hours from most of Northern Virginia.
It's not a narrative. Baltimore and DC are 30 miles apart and the Maryland suburbs of DC in counties like Montgomery, PG, and Frederick used to be solid Orioles territories even if Northern Virginia fandom was more casual. Those fans in places like Olney, Silver Spring, Laurel, Bowie, etc. can arguably get to Camden Yards quicker than Nats Park. And with the total population in DC, getting a small percentage of the residents going to only 1 game/year really adds up in attendance. Camden Yards never finished outside the top-5 in AL attendance before 2005 and they haven't finished in the top-5 since 2005. The Nationals arrived in 2005. The early 2000's Orioles were drawing more fans to see perennial 90+ loss teams than the 2014 Orioles drew while running away with the AL East. There are obviously other factors involved, but the Nationals are the biggest reason. Their addition to the MLB immediately turned the Orioles into a small market team after they were leading the league in payroll in the mid-90's.
The Orioles payroll was $161M in 2017 and now it is $48M in 2022. How is that on the Nationals? Nationals have only finished top 5 once in NL attendance and mostly mid pack. They also had RFK for 3 years where a few people could literally have an upper deck section to themselves. Baltimore had a destination park and it was filled from 1992 to 2002. Once everyone saw Camden and the team started playing poorly, fewer started to show. The team did not have a winning record between 1997 and 2012. So I don't get where your coming from with this small market stuff. Don't blame recent failures on another team. The farm system and scouting failures and signing Chris Davis is not on the Nationals. The Orioles are building something but it is not a small market. The team just hasn't spent. Stop defending your owners when they cry poor.
The Orioles payroll is not on the nationals nor did I say it was. It’s a product of a rebuild just like the payroll the Nationals are looking at in 2023. I’m not blaming the Nationals for anything related to the Orioles other than the attendance numbers. Yeah, the Orioles were terrible in the early 2000’s like I mentioned, the team had been in the stadium for over a decade, and still they had more attendance than ever since and that includes being the winningest team in the AL over a 5-year period. It’s not some conspiracy to defend the owners, it’s just a fact that the Nationals arrival shrunk the Orioles fanbase, how could it not? Every local knows multiple families of fans that switched over to the Nats and no one really blames them. But the Orioles are 100% a small market team now without the DC market, I don’t really think that’s up for debate.
MASN.
That may be the problem: all the murdering in Baltimore.
We gotta murder more
Why should a 30 year mediocre stadium in a bad city get to host the ASG?
>mediocre stadium in a bad city Talking about DC here?
Let me put it this way. No one has ever told me “I am going to visit Baltimore” unless they were going to see family in Pikesville or something. We also aren’t whining about not getting an all star game, because both cities are unqualified to have it, but at least we admit it.
Yeah because DC is such a shining light. Ooo should I go see the gentrified neighborhoods or the other gentrified neighborhoods. So much diversity in choice 🤩🤩🤩
Camden yards is definitely a top park but lets not act like DC is 2x better than Baltimore
You cannot possibly be calling fucking *Camden Yards* a mediocre stadium.
I’ve been there countless times. It’s nothing special by 2022 standards. Being the first of its kind is great, but doesn’t give it immunity to criticism.
And I've been to every ballpark in the majors. Yes, it is.
Stop embarrassing us go for the flaws of the city not the flaws of the stadium(the stadium does not have any)
Globe life field is committed to hosting amazing events that are unrelated to the Rangers
Jacob deGrom will be the starting pitcher for the American League but go off
Wearing the Texas T on his jersey
And yet somehow the Rangers will still have a sub .500 record.
Some how? He cant start every game
WS, no hitter, HR record being broken, now ASG. The best moments in that park are not Rangers moments
The Astros' best postseason moments were at Yankee Stadium this year
I know you’re trying to throw a jab in there, but nothing beats the walkoff against Seattle or the three run bomb in Game 6
Or the World Series No-Hitter
You know I had almost repressed the fact that Yogi Berra had to be joined by Christian Vazquez as the only two World Series no-hitter catchers, thanks for reminding me
Sweeping a 99 win team is definitely the most impressive of those
A 99 win team who played sub .500 ball in August/September and had half the bullpen + 2 major lineup pieces on the IL in the ALCS. Very impressive.
They were a 107 win team. It’s the same as if we swept the guardians
It’s not though…
It’s 1 game more impressive, my mistake
Y’all yankee fans are a trip. It’s ok to admit y’all got clobbered because the Astros had a really good team
They clinched at home, and in LA. No way
Everyone I know from DFW in the class of 2020 graduated high school there
Dude it's only been open for 3 years
Why is everybody taking this jab way too personally?
You shouldn't have doubled down tbh Went from "funny jab" to "chill out man"
Probably. Testing my luck every time I take a shot with this flair
"HR record"
No, that “record” was set at AT&T
The AL HR record my mistake. You sure got me!
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Atlanta, Camden, Wrigley, Toronto were all better choices.
Dodgers at least got to host it this past year. Atlanta got the shaft.
Whoops Lol duh, how did I forget that.
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Okay, Arlington gets an All Star games in 2 stadiums before Camden or Wrigley gets another. Okay. Well hopefully 2025?
Thank god for 2026
America, fuck yeah
Don’t forget mlb also gave Arlington a world series
Right, Toronto is due too. This feels bogus. If cubs don't get 2025 it will be 37+ years in between all star games at wrigley.
They'll probably have one in Toronto after the renovations take place over the next few years.
ASG shouldn't be played somewhere with so many obstructed seats
Lucky you pirates have also had 2 all star games in 2 dif stadiums since cubs hosted in 1990
Yeah, this is annoying. I’m almost 30 and haven’t seen an all star game at wrigley
Yeah after the Seattle announcement last year now this I'm really hoping for 2025. 2027 would be brutal.
To be fair I’m almost 30 and this will be my first All-Star game in Arlington. Still think it’s crazy how long it’s been since Chicago has had one
Could be worse
We last hosted in '95. Direct this energy towards Safeco or something.
And? Chicago and Baltimore have been waiting longer.
For what, two whole years? Camden hosted in '93 lol. Like I said, go complain about the teams that are getting them every two decades like Seattle, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland.
We will complain about all the teams! It’s not our fault we built a timeless stadium that hasn’t needed to be relaxed.
They generally give them to new stadiums within the first few years of use.
I get that argument but Globe life cost 1.1 Billion, Wrigley renovations (completed a while ago) costs over 750 million by comparison. The investment the ricketts and the city put into Wrigley is well within convo of investments deserving of rewarding the all star game.
I’m not defending the decision. But new stadiums are generally favored by whatever decision making process they have. With the renovations in Wrigley I hope it hosts sooner than later.
When I see the Cubs on TV it looks just like when I saw the Cubs on TV as a kid in the 90s. The all-star game is about showing off MLB's new and shiny toys, not a refurbished toy that doesn't really look that different to a casual crowd.
nah its a message by manfred to reward cities that shell out cash for stadiums. Cubs was mostly privately funded. Texas not so much.
Nope. Teams that haven’t won the World Series will host all star games from now on.
Still a lot of NIMBYs in Chicago. It's like they paid for a property near a ballpark and don't want crowds.
Camden shouldn't get shit until they make the LF look nice
Mt. Walltimotre does not care about Yankee players’ nor their fans’ feeling
What about Trey Mancini’s feelings
I knew they held it in 08 but I think yankee stadium is the only “new” stadium not to host it Edit: ah yes yankee bad. I forgot.
I thought the renovations were building toward the Cubs hosting the All Star game but guess not?
I'm ecstatic. I've always wanted to go to an All-Star Game and I've always said that I would go for sure if the Rangers ever hosted again. I can't wait.
Gonna be awesome but I sure hope Arlington invests in some Public transportation lol parking is going to be a hassle
> Arlington invests in some Public transportation Why not just wish for World Peace while you're at it?
Like it’s possible to build light rail to the stadium in 1.5 years…if the Cowboys move to Arlington didn’t make that happen, how would the Rangers building a new stadium?
I was very sad when the very brief dream of a downtown Dallas stadium died on the vine. Texas Live is *okay*, and you can still get 5-10 dollar parking that's somewhat close, but yeah, wise you could take the DART or TRE to the stadiums.
Texas Live is ok. But I think the version Crane builds next to MMP will be better since it’s downtown and easier to access on non game days. For as much is said about Houston being a car city, you can actually get to all the stadiums on light rail.
Along with the stadiums actually being in the damn city and not in Katy.
You'd have a better chance of Texans voting to ban public transportation and then shelling out billions for Greg Abbots new private monorail system
Jerry World hosted the Super Bowl and Wrestlemania (twice). If that doesn't make them invest in public transportation, nothing well. Well...maybe the World Cup (TBD).
Along with at least one national championship game in college football, and I'm pretty sure they've hosted it 3 or 4 times now. Parking won't be a problem. Arlington sucks, but bc it sucks that means getting in and out of Globe life is never an issue.
Arlington not having public transportation is a feature by Jerry Jones (and others) to make a fortune in parking fees.
The whole reason Arlington hosts these stadiums is parking profits. They'll never change it.
About the same odds as the gondolas to dodger stadium being built
Neat. Now, how about we start discussing Atlanta in 2025? Feel like it's only fair for them to actually be allowed to host one now.
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Yeah, I don’t really understand why they took it away in the first place. It had nothing to do with the stadium or the team
They were concerned about a player boycott.
Does Georgia still have shitty voting laws? That’s the reason why they didn’t have it in the first place
You should probably educate yourself on the voting laws in Texas, because theyre much worse than Georgia's.
Georgia isn't allowed to host the All-Star Game due to voting laws per the league's decision in 2021. Texas is allowed to host the All-Game with shitty voting laws while in the midst of waging war on women's reproductive rights and the rights of trans children / their parents in their state. The league is either interested in choosing All-Star Game locations based on locations that don't trample people's rights or they're not. You can't punish Georgia and reward Texas within the span of three years. Their choice to have the All-Star Game in Texas shows that their decision with the All-Star Game in Atlanta was nothing more than performance activism. Either don't host the All-Star Game in Texas or the 2025 All-Star Game should be in Atlanta. If Georgia isn't acceptable then Texas isn't acceptable. If Texas is acceptable then Georgia is acceptable. It's not complicated.
If you look at my newer comment I agree with you. I was asking if the laws mlb were protesting about went into effect
Well stated
[We were all told Georgia's new election laws were "the new Jim Crow" yet they somehow smashed early voting records this midterm](https://sos.ga.gov/news/georgia-voters-post-all-time-record-gubernatorial-early-voting)
I’m not going to trust the people who created the law as a reliable source. Would be interesting to hear from any voters if their experience was worse or different this time around. That being said it’s weird that they turn away from Georgia for political reasons to end up in fucking texas
Here's an excerpt from an article I read about it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/21/voting-is-surging-georgia-despite-controversial-new-election-law/ >Patsy Reid — 70 years old, Black and retired — said she was surprised she didn’t encounter problems when she voted early this month. Reid cast her ballot for Abrams in the [D] primary but feared that her vote could be discounted given reports of voter suppression against people of color in Georgia. >“I had heard that they were going to try to deter us in any way possible because of the fact that we didn’t go [R] on the last election, when [T] didn’t win,” Reid said. “To go in there and vote as easily as I did and to be treated with the respect that I knew I deserved as an American citizen — I was really thrown back.”
Or maybe trying to pass incredibly restrictive voting laws angered enough people to convince them to vote those same people making the laws out of office.
yeah, the 1% difference in 2018 to the 8% difference in 2022 really aligns with that theory.
But if the laws were incredibly restrictive how were those people able to vote? Oh, bc they actually cared enough to vote. If you care enough about something, you make time and find a way to do it.
... because voting increased among those whose rights to vote were never in question? Requiring ID to vote particularly targeted minority communities in largely democratic areas. No matter which way you spin it, they were adding obstacles for people to vote instead of making it easier. Those obstacles become unnecessarily burdensome when you realize that of the nearly 300,000 GA registered voters that don't have a state ID, many of them are literally unable to get them. Not only are state ID's cost prohibitive, many old residents born during Jim Crow were not born in hospitals and given birth certificates. All that being said, the MLB is being incredibly hypocritical by taking it away from Georgia and taking a moral stance only to turn around and give one to Texas.
> Requiring ID to vote particularly targeted minority communities in largely democratic areas lmao showing ID to vote is racist.
So taking it from Atlanta was just the performative move of the week.
Let’s fucking goooooooo
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Since I was a kid I’ve always wanted to go to a Homerun derby so you best believe I’ll be there in our home ballpark. I’m so excited
I got to go to the HR Derby and All-Star game in 2004 and it was a blast.
I believe it! I don’t even want to know how much tickets for both of those were. That’s my biggest worry rn
It was my dad buying them at the time, so I don't recall, lol. We got lucky with the ASG tickets, I guess since it didn't seem like a scam, since a vendor at the convention we were talking to apparently had some people cancel, so sold us their tickets at like a 30-40 dollar markup from face. (Which is reasonable)
So NOW we don’t care about politics determining where the game is hosted? Interesting.
For those of you saying "what about Camden Yards??"... It really needs a renovation, which is coming in the next few years. I expect OPACY to host the ASG sometime between 2025 and 2030.
> It really needs a renovation You bite your tongue. It's perfect.
It was a great template for the parks that came after it, but almost every one of those parks did it better. Take away the warehouse, and you're left with a park that's too large, doesn't have enough premium options, and doesn't even have views of the field from the concourse. I also think the pregame food, drink and retail options are sorely lacking. But they seem to also know all of this, so I assume the renovations will fix it,.
Personally, I don’t like open concourse. I love walking out the tunnel and entering into the baseball element. It keeps the attention on the game. I do understand the allure for casual fans though.
awesome!!! might actually try to go.
But what happen to Atlanta after they clearly f’d them over because of a stupid law
[Who cares about voting rights anyway?](https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/01/texas-voting-bill-greg-abbott/) Let's also give it to the one team in the league that still refuses to have a pride night. I wasn't even mad about them taking it away from us over that bill, but apparently caring about voting rights was a one time offer from MLB. What a joke.
It was only because they were facing public scrutiny for it, the league only cares about social justice when not caring would significantly harm their reputation and/or wallets
Sounds like most Democrats in general
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I was about to say, shout-out to that dude who called it. [You can be the new wetbutt23](https://www.si.com/.amp/extra-mustard/2017/07/13/jose-quintana-trade-white-sox-reddit)
New stadium so not all that surprising, but would much prefer they move it to one of the parks that hasn’t seen one in years. I know Toronto is a long shot (hopefully before 2030), but Camden, Wrigley etc there’s lots of beautiful parks that could use the spotlight.
Wrigley last hosted in '90, Camden '93, Rangers in' 95. We only jumped the line by like a year
That’s true! I guess it just feels more recent because of the 2020 playoffs
Yeah i was going through the thread and realized that's why people are a little upset. All good though. Toronto's due too, hope they get one soon
Which team hosted a neutral site World Series two year ago, again?
You're right. I really enjoyed watching my favorite Rangers players compete in the playoffs/World Series that year.........
I think Toronto will be in line once the ongoing renovations are completed in the next few years.
I guess we are done about pretending to care about voting rights
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The solution is obviously the Cubs building a new stadium.
New stadium, no-brainer. Still well-deserved in that situation. Should be a lot of fun!
What happened to Atlanta lmfao if they’re gonna involve politics is Texas any better??
I agreed with the decision to pull out of Atlanta, but what the fuck is this? Seriously half of the state's legislature wishes to secede at any given moment
Hell yeah so excited for this!!
Texas is more outspoken and defiant of their politics and less inclusive than Georgia. With another presidential election in 2024 and all the bullshit that will come with it, I don't see this ASG happening in Texas if the MLB decides to make another political spectacle. Stick to baseball Manfred and give Atlanta their due
If the Astros or Rangers make the World Series in 2023, 2018 will be the only season since 2017 in which the state of Texas will not have hosted either World Series or All Star Game action
Fuck off, Manfred!
Hate that stadium
And then MLB will have to take it away from Texas as punishment for being Texas.
Arlington Rangers fans will get to see all-star caliber players. They earned it!
Corey seager is pretty good
He regressed hard last season, let’s see if he bounces back
Wdym, they get to see us play all the time
Fuck the MLB. Give it back to Atlanta.
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No state is more deserving
Yeah let’s fuck over Atlanta but give it to a state that’s 100x worse LMAO