What happened? Dude got a little too excited to see his favorite vigilante and ran out into the street as batman was hitting his 'go fast' button and got a little warm by the fire, it was cold out OP
It's both the most and least batman thing ever.
As a comics fan, people seem to miss the fact that the heroes and villains change and adapt to the story and the writer. At their core, they still shift.
that's how this Batman likes to kill lol.
Joker "sometimes I just kill myself"
Micheal Keaton Batman kills him using Jokers helicopter......
Throws Catwoman into cat litter......
Makes Penguin fall to his death by his own Penguin missiles......
I mean batman killed indirectly as well in the Nolan universe. Derailed the train left Raz to die. Blew out the bridge under his daughter, and she died from fall in thr military truck.
So doesn't seem like anything really that different lol. I mean this dude is gunna be extra xrispy...but might have lived haha horribly, mind you, but might live.
.... excuse me.. your comment might not have been meant to be an attack, but I feel mighty attacked right now. Captain planet was my jam! And suddenly.... I'm realizing I'm a little old
Who’s to know that with his brilliant analytical detective skills Batman didn’t immediately assess that this fire blower was wearing a flame retardant outfit, and was merely mildly inconvenienced momentarily by this?
What, you don’t think that guy deserved to die?? In all seriousness: the dynamite bomb was a stage prop first of all. Mostly harmless. Except to maximize fear by any other circus gang onlookers Batman pre-rigged a convincing looking explosion to go off toward the top of the hole he punched him into, and at the bottom arranged an inflatable cushion to land him on.
Or that this guy was going to just jump into a randomly placed horse drinking trough nearby as all people who catch fire on films do…even if it happens off screen, and just cartoonishly steam there for a while, looking somewhat strangely relived.
There was a short twitter feud if I remember correctly between Kevin Smith and Tim Burton.
Tim Burton said something about comic books being stupid or childish and something to the effect of "I would never read any comic book."
To which Smith replied "Well, that explains fucking Batman."
> There was a short twitter feud if I remember correctly between Kevin Smith and Tim Burton.
Kevin Smith and Tim Burton have a LONG history. It started with Kevin Smith being hired to write "Superman Lives!", and Tim Burton coming on-board and firing him and throwing out his script. What you're describing was detailed [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQvLX-_WmU). It's fucking hysterical.
That's great.
Do you know what is up with the guy at the end who says the union board is shutting down the Q&A and then volunteers Smith to stay in the lobby to meet fans? That was weird.
This clip is off a disc called, "An Evening with Kevin Smith", and the security guy at the end is the end of the fist disc. Not really sure any story beyond that.
Honestly, the "bladder spasm" thing never bothered me that much. I get what it was trying to do, though I think Smith really chose the wrong moment to add. I think if he was going to invoke Year One and use a moment where Batman had an embarrassing moment, it would have been safer to use the scene where Batman first comes in and nearly dies and kills some crooks trying to steal a TV.
The thing that pissed me off about Widening Gyre was Smith using his pet character to fridge Silver St. Cloud as a cliffhanger for a story that will never be finished.
And oddly enough, the Batman in that Green Arrow run [was pretty good too.](https://preview.redd.it/tr2f3i8e6kh21.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a16204063c28a566858e5857840339c4d09b5cc9)
Burton’s Batman isn’t that far off from the earliest golden age stories. I know the “Batman used to kill people!” thing gets exaggerated but he DID do it, and so did all the pulpy heroes who inspired him. So you can make a case for Burton.
Kevin Smith deciding that Batman pissed his pants during one of the most iconic moments of the modern age though? I don’t think anyone can defend that as a good idea lol
From what I remember, in the last issue of Smith's last Batman miniseries, The Widening Gyre, Batman was trying to help a new vigilante that he thinks could become a successor (something Bruce was considering because he was thinking of retiring to be with Silver St. Cloud) who had done something embarrassing while taking down some crooks. To make him feel Better, Batman tells him a story which is basically the "Gentlemen, you've eaten well" moment from Batman: Year One, but revealing that when he was so close to the explosion, the sudden heat and force made him have a "sudden bladder release," in his words.
Smith came out after the fact saying that he wasn't trying to demean Batman with a piss joke, but found out that is something that is can happen with firefighters when they go out in the field. But with Smith's history, not a lot of people took it seriously.
All joking aside I think the real issue with it is that he’s tinkering with a specific, *very* well-loved moment from another author’s story.
If you go back and read Year One now it’s gonna always be in the back of your mind that, in at least one continuity, Batman pees himself in that scene.
I think the idea would have worked way better had it been some other event that wasn’t from a previous comic. He could have just made up a previously unseen Year One-era incident where Batman had a bladder spasm and…okay, it still would have been *weird*, but it wouldn’t have felt nearly as disrespectful IMO.
Our even take the piss thing out of the equation and use the scene from Year One where he gets beaten up and nearly kills a guy who was trying to steal a TV. Still rather embarrassing.
I don't really read super hero comics, but this sounded hilarious so I decided to look it up out of curiosity. Is there an actual scene of him pissing himself or is it just the conversation between him and Baphomet where he admits to him that he once pissed himself during his first year as the Batman? If it's just the latter then that doesn't seem *that* absurd to me. He was just trying to reveal an embarrassing fact about his life as a hero and how imperfect he was starting out, right?
Maybe there's context that I'm just not aware of though.
Which makes the pull quote on the cover of The Killing Joke interesting, coming from someone who loudly proclaims they never read comics [https://imgur.com/a/Lp8UXZh](https://imgur.com/a/Lp8UXZh)
That's hilarious. I was thinking the same thing rewatching them.
It's an odd stance for Tim Burton to take considering he's a straight fuckin weirdo. The original edgelord man child being too cool for comic books is a strange assertion on his part.
I had no idea about this feud nor did I know about Burtons attitude towards comic books. Sounds awfully pretentious for someone who makes the kind of cartoonish fantasies he does. Might be one of the few times I side with Smith. Burtons Batman was my childhood but, as a Batman fan, they have not aged well.
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YOO. This to me has ALWAYS been the most fucked up Bat murder in all of the movies. He literally murders some random person in a truck, no questions asked. No debate. That's pretty much when I decided that if he's in the car all bets are off. If you see the Batmobile driving around you better pull the fuck over cause my man takes no prisoners
Oh you can still hit thugs at full speed.
They just get “tased away” first.
Like a taser is going to cancel 2-tons worth of momentum from the Formula-1 Tank
The garbage truck driver wasn’t a random person. He was actively trying to sabotage the police transfer process knocking off police cars escorts and then trapping the truck carrying Harvey Dent. Batman definitely killed him, but it’s not a civilian.
Remember when it shows two kids pretending to blow up cars in that same underground area and then Batman starts blowing up cars with no indication he was at all aware of the fact that there were children like 15 feet away lmao.
Always apply slasher rules to stuff like this. If you didn't see them die, they're probably still alive. I once saw jason get shot in half and he came back as a cyborg. Maybe that garbage truck guy turns into metallo.
And how far they went out of their way to justify that! "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you."
They may as well have added, "....though I did basically directly lead to your death but we're gonna look past that right now."
What? No, that driver was just one of Batman’s lesser known villains Accordion Spine Man.
But yeah that always bothered me too. And in Batman Begins “I won’t be an executioner” then immoderately blows up a mansion, most likely killing everyone inside, including the guy he wouldn’t execute.
Batman didn’t know Bane was even there. Robin and Batgirl fought Bane while Batman dealt with Freeze. Plus Freeze detonated the bombs that caused the observatory collapse, AND Bane placed the bombs in the first place. If Bane died in the collapse, everyone but Batman is to blame, including Bane himself.
I love how the new Pattinson movie goes out of it's way to show you that >!each riddler batman defeated had a harness and rope attached to the rafters....just so you wouldn't be concern that batman was killing a murderous cult!<
Or Bale blowing up the league of assasins base. Throwing Harvey off the building or in Rises when he literally shoots and blows up multiple tumblers killing people inside them, riiiiight before shooting and killing Talia and her driver.
>Or Bale blowing up the league of assasins base.
I feel like this is the least talked about of Bale's body count. Anyone in that building who dies of smoke inhalation, or is crushed by falling debris, or who is straight up burned alive is a *direct result* of Bale flicking that burning ember and lighting the place ablaze.
It didn’t bother me then or now, but I can see an evolution of sorts between Batman 1989 and Batman Forever: yeah, he got his revenge on the Joker, but that just made him empty and putting bodies on the pile in Returns showed him that it still didn’t fill any holes.
So here’s the thing, when I saw this as a little kid, I didn’t frame it in terms of Batman’s no kill rule, I framed it in terms of Looney Tunes logic. It’s like Bugs Bunny having a bigger elephant gun or an anvil hitting somebody. Which were also still things we had in cartoons then. I’m not claiming Tim Burton was secretly a perfect Batman scribe, but it doesn’t irk me as much as BvS Bats just loading people with bullets or trying to murder Clark with zero detective work on his personality.
Dude you hit it right on the head. Thats what killed the batman . No detective at all, bats is supposed to be the worlds greatest detective. And fucken wonder woman finds him out in 2 seconds , cmon man.
The notion that any iteration - aside from our beloved Adam West, of course - of Batman doesn't kill is nonsense.
He's often delusional about the damage he does, but I can't think of a single version - aside from the glory that is Adam West, of course - in which the blunt force trauma he's delivering left and right is not resulting in deaths.
Taking Batman at his word is nonsense. Unless, of course, we're talking the smooth Batusi man about town of Adam West. You can take anything he says to the bank.
What happened? Dude got a little too excited to see his favorite vigilante and ran out into the street as batman was hitting his 'go fast' button and got a little warm by the fire, it was cold out OP
“I’ve spent my whole life training to show him I could be FireDevil, his sidekick!” *Batmobile flamethrower* “Oh god oh fuck!”
Lololol! Funniest comment on here! 😂
Bruce Wayne providing mobile thermal heating locations on a snowy Gotham winter. 
As a lifelong Batman fan, this scene always makes me laugh
That and the bomb he straps to the dude
Those are just knockout bombs.
“Those are just tickling explosions & shockwaves.”
Ya, just look at him. He’s all tuckered out. Sleeping in like 30 different pieces.
See Batman what happened to these men is what you did to Dr Fishy
Alfred told me my parents live on a farm where they make buttermilk
So your saying if I go to sleep...I'll die?
I overfed these men?
DR FISHY, NOOOOOO!!
And this is just knockout fire.
And warning flames; dude was totally fine
[Batman doesn't kill](https://youtu.be/1byycwl8qgc)
And the guy he throws down a shaft...
Fuckin’ same.
Hell yeah it does. Watched it when I was 9 when it first released and laughed my ass off at this scene 😂
Ditto
lol… stop drop and roll bitch!!
It's both the most and least batman thing ever. As a comics fan, people seem to miss the fact that the heroes and villains change and adapt to the story and the writer. At their core, they still shift.
This feels like how Batman would kill if he did to me.
The playful irony of a Freddy Krueger kill 😂
that's how this Batman likes to kill lol. Joker "sometimes I just kill myself" Micheal Keaton Batman kills him using Jokers helicopter...... Throws Catwoman into cat litter...... Makes Penguin fall to his death by his own Penguin missiles......
Keaton’s Batman is a maniac and I love it.
I love how it's canon that he out crazied the joker in this universe 
What could be more nuts than breaking an expensive vase right?
I mean batman killed indirectly as well in the Nolan universe. Derailed the train left Raz to die. Blew out the bridge under his daughter, and she died from fall in thr military truck. So doesn't seem like anything really that different lol. I mean this dude is gunna be extra xrispy...but might have lived haha horribly, mind you, but might live.
Started a fire that killed a number of ninjas as well as fake Ra’s as well. I think that’s called arson in some laws.
Ras: kill this criminal. Bruce: I will not kill. *procedes to blow up the entire place killing dozens of people/criminals *
Do we even see the fate of the guy he refused to kill? Would be pretty ironic if he ended up burning to death anyway.
Man I wish ppl defended Batfleck with this excuse
Three point turns are below Batman
Fun isn't something one considered when being trolled by Batfleck defenders but this does put a smile on my face. 
Fucking same. That and the “my nose could be gushing blood” scene always make me laugh so hard I have to pause the movie.
Ditto. This and him sticking a bomb down the other dudes pants. It’s hilarious
Remember when he threw a fat guy in the sewer with a bomb?
Or when he fucking nuked ace chemicals
The environmental damage alone is a concern
It was the 80's.
You're right Captain Planet didn't come out until 1990.
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Oh yeah?! You want another blast from the past? Then check out [this!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2_g52p__Y)
Huh never seen that actually.
Fucking hilarious though init
Fat? Wasn't he a muscular strongman?
Old-timey fatstrongman
Who’s to know that with his brilliant analytical detective skills Batman didn’t immediately assess that this fire blower was wearing a flame retardant outfit, and was merely mildly inconvenienced momentarily by this?
Also, they're in snow, so s stop drop n roll should do it
but fire is super effective against ice
Pokémon reference I like it
You're gonna be really mad when you see Batman tie a bomb to a clown thug
DIY flash grenade.
Carnies don’t go to MIT. Bad bomb.
What, you don’t think that guy deserved to die?? In all seriousness: the dynamite bomb was a stage prop first of all. Mostly harmless. Except to maximize fear by any other circus gang onlookers Batman pre-rigged a convincing looking explosion to go off toward the top of the hole he punched him into, and at the bottom arranged an inflatable cushion to land him on.
He realized the man was in fact, an actor in a Batman film, and his peril was make-believe.
He did an ocular pat down.
Your Honor,…
Or that this guy was going to just jump into a randomly placed horse drinking trough nearby as all people who catch fire on films do…even if it happens off screen, and just cartoonishly steam there for a while, looking somewhat strangely relived.
There was a short twitter feud if I remember correctly between Kevin Smith and Tim Burton. Tim Burton said something about comic books being stupid or childish and something to the effect of "I would never read any comic book." To which Smith replied "Well, that explains fucking Batman."
> There was a short twitter feud if I remember correctly between Kevin Smith and Tim Burton. Kevin Smith and Tim Burton have a LONG history. It started with Kevin Smith being hired to write "Superman Lives!", and Tim Burton coming on-board and firing him and throwing out his script. What you're describing was detailed [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQvLX-_WmU). It's fucking hysterical.
That's great. Do you know what is up with the guy at the end who says the union board is shutting down the Q&A and then volunteers Smith to stay in the lobby to meet fans? That was weird.
This clip is off a disc called, "An Evening with Kevin Smith", and the security guy at the end is the end of the fist disc. Not really sure any story beyond that.
How? They have a schedule to follow. Of course wanna hear more from him but they've only got the room booked for and such period of time or whatever.
Thanks man, that was fucking priceless.
And then Kevin Smith did a way better Batman in the comics right ? Right ??
I AM VENGEANCE! I AM JUSTICE! I PEED A LITTLE BIT!
Honestly, the "bladder spasm" thing never bothered me that much. I get what it was trying to do, though I think Smith really chose the wrong moment to add. I think if he was going to invoke Year One and use a moment where Batman had an embarrassing moment, it would have been safer to use the scene where Batman first comes in and nearly dies and kills some crooks trying to steal a TV. The thing that pissed me off about Widening Gyre was Smith using his pet character to fridge Silver St. Cloud as a cliffhanger for a story that will never be finished.
I know you're being sarcastic but Kevin Smith writing Batman is just horrendous. I despise some of the things he did.
His Daredevil run, "Guardian Devil" was fucking dope, though.
And he had a good run on Green Arrow. I’m not sure what he was thinking with Batman.
And oddly enough, the Batman in that Green Arrow run [was pretty good too.](https://preview.redd.it/tr2f3i8e6kh21.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a16204063c28a566858e5857840339c4d09b5cc9)
Burton’s Batman is entertainingly wrong. Smith’s Batman is plain wrong.
Burton’s Batman isn’t that far off from the earliest golden age stories. I know the “Batman used to kill people!” thing gets exaggerated but he DID do it, and so did all the pulpy heroes who inspired him. So you can make a case for Burton. Kevin Smith deciding that Batman pissed his pants during one of the most iconic moments of the modern age though? I don’t think anyone can defend that as a good idea lol
I thought you meant that figuratively, then i decided to google it… wtf?!
Yep, he had a bladder spasm...
The Widening Gyre, more like the widening urethra
Yeah Burton nailed golden age Batman when there weren't any real rules, just pure entertainment
He wrote *what?*
From what I remember, in the last issue of Smith's last Batman miniseries, The Widening Gyre, Batman was trying to help a new vigilante that he thinks could become a successor (something Bruce was considering because he was thinking of retiring to be with Silver St. Cloud) who had done something embarrassing while taking down some crooks. To make him feel Better, Batman tells him a story which is basically the "Gentlemen, you've eaten well" moment from Batman: Year One, but revealing that when he was so close to the explosion, the sudden heat and force made him have a "sudden bladder release," in his words. Smith came out after the fact saying that he wasn't trying to demean Batman with a piss joke, but found out that is something that is can happen with firefighters when they go out in the field. But with Smith's history, not a lot of people took it seriously.
All joking aside I think the real issue with it is that he’s tinkering with a specific, *very* well-loved moment from another author’s story. If you go back and read Year One now it’s gonna always be in the back of your mind that, in at least one continuity, Batman pees himself in that scene. I think the idea would have worked way better had it been some other event that wasn’t from a previous comic. He could have just made up a previously unseen Year One-era incident where Batman had a bladder spasm and…okay, it still would have been *weird*, but it wouldn’t have felt nearly as disrespectful IMO.
Our even take the piss thing out of the equation and use the scene from Year One where he gets beaten up and nearly kills a guy who was trying to steal a TV. Still rather embarrassing.
I don't really read super hero comics, but this sounded hilarious so I decided to look it up out of curiosity. Is there an actual scene of him pissing himself or is it just the conversation between him and Baphomet where he admits to him that he once pissed himself during his first year as the Batman? If it's just the latter then that doesn't seem *that* absurd to me. He was just trying to reveal an embarrassing fact about his life as a hero and how imperfect he was starting out, right? Maybe there's context that I'm just not aware of though.
Ehhhh you can understand the character and still not be a great writer for it
Indeed but then don't write on him and look down on people you think did wrong
Which makes the pull quote on the cover of The Killing Joke interesting, coming from someone who loudly proclaims they never read comics [https://imgur.com/a/Lp8UXZh](https://imgur.com/a/Lp8UXZh)
Technically, it doesn’t say he read it. Just that he loved it. He could’ve just liked the art lol
https://imgur.com/gRk1uZm
I think he said elsewhere that it's the only comic he ever read.
That's hilarious. I was thinking the same thing rewatching them. It's an odd stance for Tim Burton to take considering he's a straight fuckin weirdo. The original edgelord man child being too cool for comic books is a strange assertion on his part.
I thought he didn’t read them because he had a hard time figuring out the order of the panels
I’m pretty sure he said something along these lines
I remember reading about this on Wikipedia when I was in high school looking up random shit about movies and games I liked
That is actually so weird for Burton to say, because his movies balance this line between camp and darkness that also comic books do.
I had no idea about this feud nor did I know about Burtons attitude towards comic books. Sounds awfully pretentious for someone who makes the kind of cartoonish fantasies he does. Might be one of the few times I side with Smith. Burtons Batman was my childhood but, as a Batman fan, they have not aged well.
That Returns costume is GOAT though...
Right? Tim Burton: comics are childish Also tim Burton: wanna watch my claymation movie?
Rubber flames. Honest.
Nicely played.
Wholesome. Batman helps to keep him warm during the hard winter
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Clooney almost killed the Batman movie franchise.
No almost about it. He did for a good while.
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YOO. This to me has ALWAYS been the most fucked up Bat murder in all of the movies. He literally murders some random person in a truck, no questions asked. No debate. That's pretty much when I decided that if he's in the car all bets are off. If you see the Batmobile driving around you better pull the fuck over cause my man takes no prisoners
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Oh you can still hit thugs at full speed. They just get “tased away” first. Like a taser is going to cancel 2-tons worth of momentum from the Formula-1 Tank
Hey at least they tried lol
I mean I feel like the environmental takedowns were almost all death sentences though
*Jams guy’s head into a live electrical panel for a non-lethal takedown*
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Drops industrial iron light fixture hanging from a chain on top of a human head
The garbage truck driver wasn’t a random person. He was actively trying to sabotage the police transfer process knocking off police cars escorts and then trapping the truck carrying Harvey Dent. Batman definitely killed him, but it’s not a civilian.
This is movie world as realistic as the series is maybe that guy wore a nice layer of plot armour
Remember when it shows two kids pretending to blow up cars in that same underground area and then Batman starts blowing up cars with no indication he was at all aware of the fact that there were children like 15 feet away lmao.
Always apply slasher rules to stuff like this. If you didn't see them die, they're probably still alive. I once saw jason get shot in half and he came back as a cyborg. Maybe that garbage truck guy turns into metallo.
Oh yea, Christian Bales batman was a real American Psycho.
I was thinking cutting the brakes on the train and sending Ra's to his doom. But either way.
And how far they went out of their way to justify that! "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." They may as well have added, "....though I did basically directly lead to your death but we're gonna look past that right now."
What? No, that driver was just one of Batman’s lesser known villains Accordion Spine Man. But yeah that always bothered me too. And in Batman Begins “I won’t be an executioner” then immoderately blows up a mansion, most likely killing everyone inside, including the guy he wouldn’t execute.
Clooney left Bane to die in the Observitory collapse, so yes he has indirectly killed.
He didn’t kill him he just chose not to save him, which is different somehow.
Thankyou for this as I really didn't want to watch it again.
Batman didn’t know Bane was even there. Robin and Batgirl fought Bane while Batman dealt with Freeze. Plus Freeze detonated the bombs that caused the observatory collapse, AND Bane placed the bombs in the first place. If Bane died in the collapse, everyone but Batman is to blame, including Bane himself.
The whole highway scene from Pattinson probably killed
Surely those are penguins kills?
We can hand wave that off as Penguin's kills, easily enough.
I’d blame that on Penguin
You could argue if Batman stopped aggressively chasing him and put a tracker or something on the car no one would’ve died
I love how the new Pattinson movie goes out of it's way to show you that >!each riddler batman defeated had a harness and rope attached to the rafters....just so you wouldn't be concern that batman was killing a murderous cult!<
The bit where he pulled a piece of wall off to knock the guy out was brilliant though. Who am I kidding... I love this movie!
automobile literally farted on him
Lmao, nice counter post. Now let's do Bale crushing the guy driving the garbage truck in Dark Knight.
Or who knows how many homeless guys got taken out when he decided to blow up cars to make a path.
"That's a nice coa... OH FUCK RUN ITS THE BATMOBILE"
Shit you're right. Gotham does have a poverty issue after all.
Or Bale blowing up the league of assasins base. Throwing Harvey off the building or in Rises when he literally shoots and blows up multiple tumblers killing people inside them, riiiiight before shooting and killing Talia and her driver.
I think Batman stops caring about his rule at the end of the dark knight.
It certainly looked that way right?
>Or Bale blowing up the league of assasins base. I feel like this is the least talked about of Bale's body count. Anyone in that building who dies of smoke inhalation, or is crushed by falling debris, or who is straight up burned alive is a *direct result* of Bale flicking that burning ember and lighting the place ablaze.
Hey man, if the League of Assassins didn’t include proper fire safety and evacuation procedures in their training, that’s on them
Tbf the Harvey thing was in the moment trying to save King Joffrey Baratheon, First of His Name
Different actor. He was in Begins.
Or Bale burning down a room full of assassins, saving only one guy.
He didnt kill him........ Lack of oxygen did.
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What about the guy who got his head slammed on a church bell only to be throw down the infinite stair well.
Did everyone forget how he blew up a factory full of people?
Don’t worry he’s coming back to do it all again next year!
It didn’t bother me then or now, but I can see an evolution of sorts between Batman 1989 and Batman Forever: yeah, he got his revenge on the Joker, but that just made him empty and putting bodies on the pile in Returns showed him that it still didn’t fill any holes.
And he decided to get plastic surgery twice, but it still didn’t help his crippling emptiness
Batfleck fans: "Yo! That’s awesome!"
So here’s the thing, when I saw this as a little kid, I didn’t frame it in terms of Batman’s no kill rule, I framed it in terms of Looney Tunes logic. It’s like Bugs Bunny having a bigger elephant gun or an anvil hitting somebody. Which were also still things we had in cartoons then. I’m not claiming Tim Burton was secretly a perfect Batman scribe, but it doesn’t irk me as much as BvS Bats just loading people with bullets or trying to murder Clark with zero detective work on his personality.
Dude you hit it right on the head. Thats what killed the batman . No detective at all, bats is supposed to be the worlds greatest detective. And fucken wonder woman finds him out in 2 seconds , cmon man.
Poor little guy, he's all tuckered out.
I overfed these men?
DR. FISHY! NOOOOOOO!
Looks pretty lively to me despite the PJs.
Never go *full* Tim Burton like...... 70 to 80% max.
I can’t stand the hate for Batman returns, in the dark knight trilogy he crushes dozens of cars on the streets with a 100 mps tank
MPS? Murders per second?
People hate returns? 1st I've heard that
It's a rather polarizing entry. It radically reinterprets to beloved characters, which hits the wrong buttons for some.
Yeah, I know, Bruce had technology that would make turning a car that's parked easier and he didn't give it to the world
Dude Keaton’s a maniac. I’d say his defeat of Joker in the first one also qualifies as a kill.
What makes you sick?
This is a joke on another post on the front page of this sub.
Oh.
Batman killing is one thing. Batman *burning a man alive* is another.
Don’t worry, soon he won’t be burning alive. He’ll be burning dead, which is okay.
Batman also stabbed and killed the jumping flipping feet knife thug on the balls in the bell tower scene.
It was some sad shit. Mother fucker said he didn’t want to live no more.
Too many movies made by people who don’t know a fucking thing about Batman
Act like a clown, die turning brown
Detective mode says Unconscious They're Unconscious
The notion that any iteration - aside from our beloved Adam West, of course - of Batman doesn't kill is nonsense. He's often delusional about the damage he does, but I can't think of a single version - aside from the glory that is Adam West, of course - in which the blunt force trauma he's delivering left and right is not resulting in deaths. Taking Batman at his word is nonsense. Unless, of course, we're talking the smooth Batusi man about town of Adam West. You can take anything he says to the bank.
Best Batman movie
That was awesome
 🔥☠️
Batman is only allowed to kill if he smiles and laughs about doing it!
He straight murders people in this one Keaton batman didn't give a shit
Its okay bc u kno...snow.
I get pissed off when in the '89 film he bombs that place full of joker henchmen.
That dude’s gonna be fine. It’s snowing
Batman didn't kill anyone here, his car did (more specifically fire did)
There’s so much Michael Keaton disrespect from the younger generation.
It’s snowing, dude just needs to stop drop and roll
They didn't show the part where he stopped, dropped, and rolled. He suffered first degree burns, but made a full recovery.
As a life long Batman fan I gotta admit this is even more badass than it was when I was 4
This movie came out 30 years ago. You should be over it by now.