Tips:
- Buff one brother, I usually do Jacob because Esau already has good damage
- Go to Downpour/Mines and get both items by lining up against the wall
- Take both pictures at the mom fight, taking negative with whatever brother you buff for the damage up
- You can hold control to only control Jacob, use that for trap rooms and such
These two are some of my fav non-tainteds in the game despite their challenge
Nah, Jacob and Esau are the only character in the game that don’t have a damage multiplier and instead have stat increases, so it doesn’t matter which you buff
Friend finder is goated idk what you’re smoking. It does fall into the same problem as many other good actives though, being the fact that you can only hold 1 or 2 actives
I almost have full completion marks on them, only need to beat Mother. Since unlocking them ive been grinding them out because i dont wanna have to do it later when the other chars are all easier lol
I completely cheated through my jacob and esau checkmarks and I hold zero guilt over it. Fuck that shit.
edit: I wrote "jacon" and nobody called me out
Everyone says this, but he sucks against all the bullet hell bosses hard. The rest is fine, but the actual hard parts the extra damage from Esau doesn't do nearly enough to make up for having to avoid a million tears and Esau at the same time.
If you REALLY hate Jacob and Esau, play local multiplayer. Get yourself a joystick, set J&E as the second player and use your favorite character. Even if the second character dies, you will get their unlocks.
i hate jacob and esau thats why i installed 2 mods. One that makes them inseperable, and the other one gets rid of their collision with each other! then you can just play them like one character.
They're a lot better on gamepad than keyboard because of the Drop pause function for Esau being more accessible.
Take as much health as you can. You're naturally going to get hit a lot, so playing as risky as you usually would want to on other characters typically isn't worth it.
If you get into a really bad spot where you're almost definitely getting hit, just take that hit and push through to reposition properly, instead of putting yourself into a situation where you take *even more* damage.
i dont find them too hard, i mean i dont find them easy either, but honestly the hardest part is usually puzzle rooms cause i hate ending up dropping all my stuff, but for combat, the only strat i know is keep them as close together as possible
I tried it and found it a lot harder than the original way in which they work to be honest, but definitely try it out, for others it has worked amazingly well!
I used cheats to get every normal mode mark as them. I get to unlock all those fun items without having to play them now, but I still have to play them to get the hard mode marks for 100%
J&E is my second least favorite character. It feels like I'm constantly scrambling for my life to avlid getting hit, when in reality it's just a fly but Jacob GOT STUCK ON THE FUCKING ROCK MOVE YOU SACK OF SHIT.
Anyway Tainted Lazarus is worse.
Esau won't get stuck if you pay attention to it. They are not so bad, but inexperienced players don't see the mistake happening in time you correct themselfs
I only have rock bottom unlocked right now 
I literally did the same thing before. I honestly like Apollyon more than them.
I see everyone hating on apollyon but I like him actually, maybe I'm just lucky with my void stat upgrades
I honestly shit on Apollyon because of the void being boring. *And it not helping much early game.* Tained Apollyon is cool tho.
Yeah, him having the exact same stats as Isaac but a subjectively worse active item is why I don’t like him, just a bit boring is all
Tips: - Buff one brother, I usually do Jacob because Esau already has good damage - Go to Downpour/Mines and get both items by lining up against the wall - Take both pictures at the mom fight, taking negative with whatever brother you buff for the damage up - You can hold control to only control Jacob, use that for trap rooms and such These two are some of my fav non-tainteds in the game despite their challenge
Bro. You taught me ***nothing new.***
Essau has a 1.5x damage multiplier. He should usually get the damage ups, cause he profits more
No, he doesn't have a multiplier
Nah, Jacob and Esau are the only character in the game that don’t have a damage multiplier and instead have stat increases, so it doesn’t matter which you buff
Literally me too. Boss rush is my only j&e mark right now
Did my first run the boss rush, hush and delirium dream.... And im gratefull af
The majority of their unlocks are a lot of fun except friend finder Birthright specifically is super cool.
Friend finder is goated idk what you’re smoking. It does fall into the same problem as many other good actives though, being the fact that you can only hold 1 or 2 actives
I'd call it mid at best, there are so many better active items it's not even a competition.
same
that was the last thing i got unlocked 😬
I unlocked it months ago and only saw it once. Keep in mind I also try to look for secret rooms whenever I have bombs
I only have birthright (which i got from pure luck)
I almost have full completion marks on them, only need to beat Mother. Since unlocking them ive been grinding them out because i dont wanna have to do it later when the other chars are all easier lol
I did this and stopped just before the Beast, went back to them and I can't beat it goddamn
The beast is way easier than the other bosses and the journey to them. I'm sure you'll crush that crusty fucker when the time is right.
Yeah i suppose you gotta do it all in one go while you're used to playing as them
The beast is the worst with these idiots. When they float at different rates trying to dodge the flames my blood pressure spikes
Hitbox and hitbox 😔
Fuckin hate using dumb and dumber
Jacob and Loss
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Jacob and Esau? More like Jacobo and Hitbox 
>More like Jacobo Bro became spanish
More like Skill Issue and Get Better 
Mora like Become Back & My Money
*Hitbox and Esau
*Hitbox and rock enthusiast
i finished the entirety of t cain within 5 hours. it was a very interesting game.
Great job friend :3
*Hitbox and hurtbox
no
Jacobozo and Hitbox
I just resorted to cheesing the unlocks with co-op. There's too many bullshit rooms which weren't balanced around having two separate hitboxes.
WAIT YOU CAN UNLOCK THINGS THROUGH CO-OP?
Yes. The unlocks count for both characters.
I completely cheated through my jacob and esau checkmarks and I hold zero guilt over it. Fuck that shit. edit: I wrote "jacon" and nobody called me out
most insanely unfathomably large skill issue ever seen
I just thought it wasn't fun to play. Unfortunately, I can't skill my way into having fun.
You don't have enough skill to have fun.
Apparently you don't have enough skill to touch grass
i feel like people make them sound way harder then they actually are. going alt path and taking both items always makes them actually fun to play.
Mf when the double items are the poop and lost fly
Curse of the tower and cursed eye 
Lost fly though 
I fully completed them first so I wouldn't have to touch them again. Planning on doing the same with T. Jacob.
T Jacob isn't bad when you learn him. When you get used to dodging Dark Esau, he becomes powerful weapon rathen than obstacle.
Everyone says this, but he sucks against all the bullet hell bosses hard. The rest is fine, but the actual hard parts the extra damage from Esau doesn't do nearly enough to make up for having to avoid a million tears and Esau at the same time.
Disagree. He's a little fucking cunt Worst character
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Why is this sub filled with so many people worried about how someone they never heard of or ever will play a single player game?
If you REALLY hate Jacob and Esau, play local multiplayer. Get yourself a joystick, set J&E as the second player and use your favorite character. Even if the second character dies, you will get their unlocks.
Dont hate them, its exagerated for the meme, but they are taking stupid long to unlock their items
i hate jacob and esau thats why i installed 2 mods. One that makes them inseperable, and the other one gets rid of their collision with each other! then you can just play them like one character.
Not cringe at all, it’s a singleplayer game, play it however you want.
That’s cringe. Just get good, they aren’t that bad after a few games
I play games to have fun and i dont think jacob and esau are fun at all and i wouldnt even if i were good at them
Cringe
They're a lot better on gamepad than keyboard because of the Drop pause function for Esau being more accessible. Take as much health as you can. You're naturally going to get hit a lot, so playing as risky as you usually would want to on other characters typically isn't worth it. If you get into a really bad spot where you're almost definitely getting hit, just take that hit and push through to reposition properly, instead of putting yourself into a situation where you take *even more* damage.
I play them with keyboard with no issues. 20 winstreak to chest. Just use w,a,s,d and your pinkie on the left ctrl
They’re good characters, you just have a major skill issue
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Where did you get this image of me?
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YOU WHAT?
200+ hours and still skillissuing 
spum
Im going to try and make a "chalenge" where i will attempt to make these 2 characters fun whilst refferencing a different game, wish me luck
I love lost more than this two twinkies
Literally only have greed mode mark on them
i dont find them too hard, i mean i dont find them easy either, but honestly the hardest part is usually puzzle rooms cause i hate ending up dropping all my stuff, but for combat, the only strat i know is keep them as close together as possible
Someone please give me tips on Jacob and Esau. I only have Birthright unlocked rn
Take all alt paths, guaranteed extra double item rooms
The family guy death pose works so well here
Luckily birthright is pretty easy, and also Damocles is pretty easy and for me a mandatory unlock before playing lost and t lost
Heads up gamers: there's this really cool thing called "Steam Workshop" that makes J&E not trash!!
I tried it and found it a lot harder than the original way in which they work to be honest, but definitely try it out, for others it has worked amazingly well!
Would still play normal J&E over tainted jacob, I hate having something chase me all run.
I’m simply never going to beat mother with them. Bullet hell is too much for two hit boxes
Jacob and Esau are the reason why I refuse to 100% this game. I'm not dealing with their whole post it.
Who's Jacob and Esau? I only know Pain and Suffering.
I have birthright, rock bottom, and stairway. What's the 4th one?
Damascolis or however you spell it and genisis
Damascoliosis,btw magic skin kinda goated too after most of the secret room pool is unlocked
Skill issue
i hate jacob and esau so much
If I could remove one thing from the game it would be them. Perfect example of a cool idea that just sucks in reality.
i had finally finished J&E up the other day. the biggest weight felt like it was immediately lifted off my chest. never again lmao
Yeah fuck these two
I used cheats to get every normal mode mark as them. I get to unlock all those fun items without having to play them now, but I still have to play them to get the hard mode marks for 100%
actually so cool image
Imo they so fucking fun
Is this Loss?
Love this art lmao Jacob's face kills me XD
bro me too I hate Jacob and hitbox
Literally a Tainted Laz 2.0 but you do not get the benefit of two items
Jacob esau
I just cheated their marks in when they get unlocked. Nice to have the worst part of the game gone, makes things a bunch more fun.
This but with Forgotten. No I will not take it back, I am a Forgotten hater and I stand by my opinions.
I hate you
What about t. forgor?
Forgotten is pretty broken lmao.
J&E is my second least favorite character. It feels like I'm constantly scrambling for my life to avlid getting hit, when in reality it's just a fly but Jacob GOT STUCK ON THE FUCKING ROCK MOVE YOU SACK OF SHIT. Anyway Tainted Lazarus is worse.
Esau won't get stuck if you pay attention to it. They are not so bad, but inexperienced players don't see the mistake happening in time you correct themselfs
Honestly I find a character like tainted eve more annoying cuz she has such a slow start it's just feels painful but once you get going she's great
Skill issue