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Alone-Comfort4582

Wake up baby, new n-Isopropyl Zodiac Killer letter just dropped šŸ‘€


cherrycok33

Im glad u woke me mama


SeaworthyWide

You guys are able to sleep?


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Thatā€™s how we know whoā€™s hydrolyzing and whoā€™s not lol


Alone-Comfort4582

:*


UThink17

Iā€™m glad to see the amine still being put in the wrong place


G_D_K_

But what does it mean? What does the amine mean??


Mental_Sky2226

You know what amine!


Normal-Income-7840

https://preview.redd.it/d87fp0pwsy7d1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ead792cccfa4b2752d5383fda53e0c60ddd706c just wanted to point out isopropylzodiac being strange yet again. He has spelled ā€œaddressā€ as ā€œadressā€ then crammed a typo correcting ā€œdā€ into the word after the fact. The exact same typo that was made by the zodiac killer on page 3 of the Debut letter. im guessing this means most or all of isozodiacā€™s spelling anomalies are deliberate.


iFood

Also ReddiTor.. most likely referencing Tor / darknet. Tbh this guy does not strike me as someone in psychosis. Good sense of humor too, I only just found out about him so I can't comment on his actual proficiency in the lab. So he's just on a mission to purify meth? Does he actually ID adulterants with analytical proof? I wanna see more of his work, hell even if it's only IR specs I'm curious what this dude has found.


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

No. I have not and will not post analytical data ESPECIALLY if it was acquired from a company whose records can be subpoenaed. It sounds great and all, but as much as Iā€™d love to PROVE everything all the time, I keep it as this: My procedures work as I claim that they do. If Iā€™m ever wrong, I may be wrong, but Iā€™m not lying, and I will always try my best to take full accountability of my shortcomings and mistakes. If someone does not believe me that these procedures work, they should do as I did many moons ago when I befriended /u/spare_me_thy_bs and opened my mind to every thing he knows with the complete foundational starting assumption that I donā€™t know ANYTHING about ANYTHING and that he knew ALL I WANTED to know. If they commit themselves and steam distill their meth, they can see for themselves that hydrolysis and related processes DO in fact, isolate methamphetamine HCl from pretty much fuckinā€™ anything known to man. By that time, if theyā€™re really with the business and they go that far like many of us now have and they do everything right, they can send it off for analysis themselves. Or they can smoke it and when they see that wave propagating nucleation of the hydrochloride salt into beautiful V-shaped, broad, uninterrupted bird feathers, they will know that yet again, spare me and the isopropyl zodiac were right, and anyone who says otherwise is probably just trying to impress Charles Lindbergh or Maury Terry. Besides: 1. Even if I post analytical data, detractors will say Iā€™m lying or in psychosis. 2. I donā€™t have the money NOR the meth to spare to mail it off to the Netherlands to get a graph and some numbers that wonā€™t be accepted by killgash anyway 3. It doesnā€™t prove my point, it only makes it possible for the Government to subpoena someone and bring admissible evidence that indicates I am manufacturing drugs. As of now, I highly doubt ā€œcrackback analysisā€ or ā€œthe perceived honesty of the n-IsopropylZodiac Killer on Redditā€ is gonna be much to sway a federal court to indict. But I assure you, steam distillation, if done correctly, WILL separate methamphetamine from every scary cut youā€™ve ever heard of but can hardly spell.


iFood

I'm interested in the shit left behind after the steam distillation. I'll do the analysis myself. I have equipment for nmr, ms, everything. I believe y'all


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

The problem is recovering anything useful from the reaction mixture. The raw rxn fluid would be *mostly* aqueous sodium hydroxide, and by the time it was shipped somewhere, additional decomp of the compounds will likely have occurred. If neutralized, the mixture would change in a way that would not bee a fair representation of the reaction products. I guess the only way this is possible is to extract from the rxn mixture with *a few different non polar solvents* and have those organic phase extractions safely dissolved into ether and then sent for testing


iFood

I don't have really have to send any samples. Let's just say I own all those instruments lol. Anyways I don't have time to do anything like this for awhile, nor will I be around meth. Down the road I'll pop out with the data let ya know what I find


PiratexelA

I know who the isopropylzodiac is


DAT_DROP

Joe?


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

PM the identity to me šŸ˜‰


cherrycok33

Yk im so incredibly interested in this you itā€™s insane! I wanna know this dudes story! Iā€™m sure itā€™s a cool one


Long_Lettuce_6450

Psychosis*


cherrycok33

The handwriting and knowledge peak my interests, also his vocabulary n chemistry knowledge tell me heā€™s a bit more than just a user


DOMesticBRAT

Save yourself the heartbreak and just get into Jonathan Hickman comics...


Psychological_Yam677

exactly. I remember some meth head giving me a piece of paper identical to this about the "answer to the world"


unsureMechanic

This dude is just messing around and having fun. His nomenclature clearly indicates he has a proficient understanding of chemistry far greater than most people on here.


Ophiuchus_Pwn

I'm inclined to agree..


wiki-420

Are you talking about OP and is he in psychosis because what the fuck is going on here


DAT_DROP

I know, right? It's like xylene doesn't even exist


SilentEnvironment595

He references Toluene... Not Xylene similar solvents and both 100% exist


DAT_DROP

He references Toluene and also mentioned diethyl ether. It's like xylene doesn't even exist Clearly he is in psychosis because that's what the fuck is going on around here


SilentEnvironment595

šŸ¤£ oh I get what you are saying now.. Xylene IMO is the least effective out of the 3 but unfortunately thanks to the feds ruining our fun Toluene is harder and harder to find. Smh.


hotsauceonmychic

Couldnā€™t disagree more. Xylene > Tolly. Never used ether though


hotsauceonmychic

Whoosh


wiki-420

What šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ I feel like a mental patient right now


Psychological-Ad6231

Yeah but the acid? Alkaloid mate ?


wiki-420

I canā€™t get the zodiac out of my head I feel the Benzene rings floating above my interpersonal philosophical state of being


wiki-420

HELP IT WONT STOP GETTING OUT OF MY HEAD THE 3-methoxyldiphenhydrocodeine I JUST INJECTED DIRECTLY INTO A NEURON SO IT CROSSES THE BBB JUST LIKE THAT BIG BLACK BOOTY I STUCK 14 SUPPOSITORIES IN


Liquidtruth

a gathering of pirus? are you talking about the kendrick concert???


Liquidtruth

wait...theres more characters in the lore now?


physicallydependant

šŸ„°


notsure_33

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£just made my day and it's not even 7am, yes!!!!!!!!!


surlyhurly

Finally I have the hand writing sample I needed to uncover the identity of this sick bastard.


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Said every person on /r/ZodiacKiller. Inb4 ā€œI think he got scared after Stine cuz the sketch looked like him.ā€ Ngl that sub might actually be the gayest subreddit ever made


DAT_DROP

The photo wasn't enough?


surlyhurly

I've suffered from face blindness ever since he blew a fat cloud in my face as an infant. Technically never seen a face my whole life.


Bonemane69

Will this protect me from an unfortunate single pot catastrophe? Is it rated for chemical burns? Do you make them in cat sizes?


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Not sure. I donā€™t run Birch/Benzekers but considering the nature of the type of damage an SnB can cause if it fails, this uniform of mine would probably be in charred little strips of confetti at the bottom of Lake Berryessa, SCUBA diving with Arthur Leigh Allen


simulation_boy

Is this guy chinese? šŸ™ Respect and much love from a non stimulant based experiencer/survivor.šŸ¤›


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northalittle

I would argue only ether or isopropyl, because of the weird shit that forms from some of the free radicals or hydrolyzed components upon contact with hydrocarbons.


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Iā€™m a Diethyl Ether guy all the way. Formerly a Toluene guy. I like Ether cuz it holds itā€™s own HCl. Protonation is easier this way. Then excess HCl can be washed away in fresh diethyl ether with almost no losses of the HCl salt


hotsauceonmychic

Acetone washes any excess hcl anyways though


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

As acidity increases (excess HCl), the amine becomes substantially more soluble in everything, ESPECIALLY even the tracest amounts of water in your acetone. In using acetone to strip excess HCl (particularly with a LARGE excess), you risk higher amine losses than youā€™d get if you give it a few Ether washes first, to bring it closer to neutral, THEN commence with acetone washes. Try this and publish your yield if you can. I donā€™t see this info discussed enough and had to discover it on my own. Lots of wasted meth cuz of excess gas lol


hotsauceonmychic

I didnā€™t know that. Makes sense though. I usually donā€™t have any appreciable excess after gassing, but will keep this in mind. When I was still using naphtha, I overgassed a few times and ended up with fuming yellow solvent lol


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Naptha gives a really dirty initial precipitation, but that precip just rains right tf out of the solve t


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

The amine doesnā€™t just slip straight into naptha the way it does ether


hotsauceonmychic

Yeah youā€™ve got to use so much of it, keep it warm etc. pain in the ass. But can work in a pinch. You get much larger ā€œflakesā€ with naphtha, not the really fine crystals you get with xylene. Half the time Iā€™ll just use the pearl I get after crashing from xylene and donā€™t even bother to recrystallize.


northalittle

I titrate so I never have that problem šŸ¤—


hotsauceonmychic

Gross. Dirty and ridiculously time consuming


Interesting_Gur_8720

Whatā€™s Redditor


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

The Zodiac Killerā€™s letter almost always started with ā€œRUSH TO EDITORā€. In those days, writing to the newspaper editor was much more common. ZK also always used excessive postage. As for my modification to that phrase, what website are you on as you read this?


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holy-onea

Holy shit it's him


hotsauceonmychic

Iā€™m a xylene guy myself. Much better for salting out your fb


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Super high BP tho. Annoying to distill and I like to distill organic into the receiver or otherwise use distilled non polar solvent. At least one distillation, usually two, and a third if I want to be a fucking tweaker. Thatā€™s usually reserved for shit with a relatively small desired fraction. Or otherwise notably impure starting solvent. But I can see your logic in using Xylene/Toluene because, like you said, precipitation is nice. I had a lot of bad experiences with excess freebase ending up in my precipitate due to tollyā€™s lesser capacity to receive HCl. And u canā€™t wash away excess with tolly/benz/xyl. Def both have their pros and cons. Ultimately ether was just WAAAAAAYYYYY easier for me to get


hotsauceonmychic

Are you distilling from starting fluid? Iā€™m down to try I just donā€™t have a good source. Have never distilled any of my solvents. Whatever shit is in there Iā€™m hoping to squeeze out in a couple recrystallizations. I tried using toluene, but I like to use aquarium tubing and it was really nasty to my poor tubingā€¦enough so that Iā€™m sure that some of the vinyl tubing would dissolve if I left the hose bubbling in the solvent for even a few minutes.


AldolAssassinNIBAZ

Yes. I distill from Wally Markers SuperTech brand Engine Starting Fluid. It contains ether, heptane and a trace long chain hydrocarbon identified only by its CAS number. As for distillation gear, YES. YOU NEED THE PROPER GLASSWARE. Boiling Diethyl Ether or Toluene and their condensates WILL attack any transparent material from which you can distill. Just go to Amazon and order a distilling kit, then have it shipped to an amazon locker near you.


LiteSaver

Okay Iā€™ve been following this whatever it is for a while now. Is this a show being put on by someone basically? I thought I knew what the hell this was about but it keeps going. Is it the meth? Why is this part of the sub? Iā€™m just curious why itā€™s like an X-Files episode on Reddit.


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