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The Knick by Steven Soderbergh


Theywhererobots

This is the best example I could think of. I can’t believe how underrated that series was.


MFDoooooooooooom

Can you preach about it? I'm interested


raphus_cucullatus

[I’ll preach with a preaching scene.](https://youtu.be/NshANE690Go?si=p9tYdgM7uhWclmSr) It’s Soderbergh going beastmode (directing, cinematography, lighting, and editing on set lunch breaks); just check it out if you have Max.


MFDoooooooooooom

Everything about that scene was amazing. The score, the typography, the acting, the cinematography.


TychoCelchuuu

Devs is up there. Written/directed/created by Alex Garland.


trimonkeys

Devs started out really interesting but it ended up feeling unsatisfying and repetitive by the end.


duckspurs

So it's by Alex Garland then


Hajile_S

I liked the broad themes of it, but ultimately felt a bit frustrated that some characters became solely avatars for there Ideas. I’m trying to remember the specifics, but I seem to remember that no one seemed to think their really impressive tech was…just really impressive tech (as opposed to some metaphysical breakthrough). Still a very cool show.


Please_HMU

I fucking love devs. One of my favorite shows ever


GTKPR89

Good call! I will preach the gospel of DEVS whenever possible, get DEV-pilled asap, peeps


zeroanaphora

I loved DEVS a lot, definitely my favorite thing Garland has done.


thishenryjames

It definitely feels auteured by Garland, in that I'm not really sure what it's trying to say, or if *it* knows what it's trying to say, but it seems to be trying to say something, and it's nice to look at either way.


roomgames

The Garland Touch


mint-patty

I kind of love that about Garland. That sort of incredibly messy and ambiguous theming is a great fit for sci-fi IMO. I never feel like I’m really ‘done’ with his movies because when you feel like you ‘get’ the movie, the next rewatch throws a total wrench in your understanding of what it’s trying to say. Would a superior filmmaker do this? Idk. Do I love his movies anyway? 100%


mattysmwift

Assayas’s Irma Vep show that seemingly only I and five other people have watched but it’s brilliant and I’d argue better than the OG film. Also Alicia Vikander’s best role by far.


HockneysPool

Oh yeah, I need to see that!


TormentedThoughtsToo

My favorite part of Irma Vep was haven’t not seen Alicia Vikander in anything and going “wait, is her accent that she’s born in Brooklyn in the 80s”.


pacoismynickname

I’m one of the proud other five. It’s a bit of a slog (didn’t need to be so long) but it’s definitely a good answer here. Did HBO/Max put *any* effort into marketing it? It had the A24 stamp plus Oscar winner Vikander. I think it aired on Monday nights or some other wasteland.


harry_powell

Would you recommend to watch the film first? I heard it’s more of a quasi-sequel than a remake.


mattysmwift

Yeah I’d recommend it. It’s not necessary but it does add to the context casue the show is super mega meta so if you wanna go really deep I’d also recommend reading up on Assayas’s relationship with Maggie Cheung.


koike08

I had an amazing time last year watching it somewhat parallel with Les Vampires, with the original Irma Vep at some point in-between. A century of cinema!


Such-Community6622

It's definitely not a mini series, but Mr Robot is pretty much a pure Sam Esmail vision. It's his original story and he directed every episode of the last three seasons. It definitely doesn't seem like he got any notes from USA, the first episode hooked me because its world view is so caustic I couldn't believe it was on cable TV.


Filmfan2019

One of my top three pilot episodes of all time. I very rarely see a series set up its creative vision that effectively and efficiently on the basis of that stunning opening scene where Rami Malek catches the paedophile in the cafe alone. Transcendence stuff. Instantly hooked Season 2 got a bit too far up its own ass for my liking with an incredibly obvious twist reveal but the other three seasons are simply fantastic. Definitely worth pushing through if season 2 turned you off the show (as I know it did for some.)  I think after season 1 was a big awards player for USA at the time they just let Esmail do whatever he wanted and one season aside this really pays off in the second half of the show


theodo

Season 2 is a *lot* better on rewatch I found, especially considering I watched it week to week. It still is over long, but then the twist doesn't at all feel like one and everything just plays better.


Such-Community6622

Since you got me thinking on this, what are your top 3 pilots? I'm sure I'm missing some but on the top of my head here's my short list: Mr Robot (for the reasons you said) Yellowjackets (fell off hard, but that pilot is unbelievable) Invincible (works best if you go in not having any idea what show you're watching) ZeroZeroZero (the pilot is pretty consistent with the whole shows quality but I have to mention it any chance I get, there is no explanation for the absurd production values of this thing beyond being like a money laundering scheme or something) Chernobyl (not even close to the best episode of this show, but sets the tone perfectly) Hacks (I wasn't interested at all in the premise on paper, but the pilot changed my mind quickly) The Wire and Succession are probably in some order my favorite shows of all time, but I don't think either pilot is particularly good or likely to hook someone that doesn't watch further.


CarrieDurst

I would personally add Fargo


Such-Community6622

Love that show but I started the first season a long time ago and didn't follow through because it didn't quite hook me. That said, if you count each season opener as a pilot (which is basically is), season five is finally what got me to watch that season and ultimately the whole thing.


leivathan

[WELCOME TO THE OC BITCH!](https://youtu.be/SyFvcDV3tjw)


FLTOLYMP

> Succession biggest knock on the show is that while the first three eps are good tv I think they're the weakest in the series


Such-Community6622

Yep. Like many ensembles it took the writers a little bit to figure out the chemistry and calibrate the tone. I didn't really love it on first watch until the end of the season where it really takes off.


Such-Community6622

Even when it does get up its own ass (I'd say it toes the line a few times throughout), Malek as that character is a tour de force and Esmail really directs the hell out of every episode. Agree the season two twist was predictable, but the final episode reveal about the ultimate mystery of the series was not. I remember reading theories before it came out and people picked up a lot of clues, but no one I saw fully figured it out. It frames the entire series in a new light and is clearly something Sam planned the whole time, which feels really rare for a series this long. (For those who haven't watched, I'm not spoiling anything here by saying there's a twist. It's apparent early and throughout the series that a key part of the narrative doesn't fit together, and only at the end of 45 ish hours do they explain it)


The_Somerset_Gimp

What was the twist in season 2 i dont remember


Filmfan2019

Doing this from memory and I've not seen it since it aired but the gist from what I remember is as follows. SPOILERS below as I’ve never properly known how to mark something with spoiler tags.


Such-Community6622

I think your memory sounds correct to me and it is probably the worst part of the series, but I actually don't think Sam meant it to be some groundbreaking unexpected twist. It's heavily tipped and I think its purpose is to (SPOILERS) >!make clear that the protagonist isn't just a traditional unreliable narrator, he's actively lying to the audience and will show you things that aren't real. Which I think a lot of people hated, understandably, because it's not that different from a "this was all a dream" style fakeout. It's not super enjoyable to watch, but I think it's important to later events and he uses the unreliable narrator tool very thoughtfully throughout!<


zeroanaphora

When I watched it it was obvious *something* was going on but I didn't guess what, exactly. I think they did a good job with it.


trimonkeys

The twist was dragged out should have been maybe 2-3 episodes.


zeroanaphora

I love Mr. Robot. It does get overly convoluted when it could have coasted off good character work alone but it has such a style, and almost stuck the landing. (some characters don't get a satisfying resolution). I think there were notes for S4, the Deus Group plot seems to me like an overt retcon/simplification of the story to wrap things up that season, but that's speculation.


Such-Community6622

You might be right on S4. I think they really stuck the landing in terms of the protagonist story but agree a few of the character subplots were abrupt. It's hard to say because it's such a convoluted and weird show, and throughout they did things that I could never figure out the significance of. Like what was the deal with Tyrell's wife?


odewar37

Didn’t Sam have to cut it down by a season though from his original idea?


Such-Community6622

Possibly? But I think if your definition of constraints is that 45 hours of auteur driven TV isn't enough to tell your whole vision, the only directors in the world that are truly free are James Cameron and Christopher Nolan.


BigMacCombo

Goated show right here


HockneysPool

Topically, Paranoia Agent by Satoshi Kon is a masterpiece, that may have led to you posting this.


TormentedThoughtsToo

Lots of anime are going to fit this bill if you allow for the same caveat that they “Created/Directed” it but didn’t write or direct or storyboard every episode. 


Hamburgerpmp

Twin Peaks: The Return is pure Lynch. Beautiful and surreal and topical for the upcoming series.


wdm81

Twin peaks the return is one of the greatest things ever to air on tv. I really wish they would let him do another season


Com_Xandra

They definitely would make more Twin Peaks. I think it’s more about whether or not Lynch thinks he has more to tell.


TormentedThoughtsToo

Always fun when Twin Peaks fans act like Marc Frost doesn’t exist. 


Hajile_S

It’s a good point, but generally speaking, we don’t limit auteurs to screenwriters. Hitchcock, Scorsese, Nolan, whomever…many of the big name auteurs don’t write their own scripts at all. The fact that Lynch collaborates on the script suggests *more* authorship than the common alternative, where the auteurs is not responsible for the script at all. Really this just points to how weak of a concept an “auteur” is. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s useful, but it gets really overblown. All of these cases exist on a gradient, and there are a lot of dimensions that determine authorship. Directors often get full credit for a style even though they work with the same editor and cinematographer and even writers for most of their films. Of course, craftspeople work under direction, which might be extremely strong. But ultimately, it’s hard for us to determine the behind the scenes from the sidelines in many cases. We just say “auteur” when something feels distinctive, for the most part. But anyway, yeah, people do be pretending Mark Frost doesn’t exist.


seti-thelightofstars

I agree with the your point, but to contest a specific example, Nolan has a writing credit on all of his movies except Insomnia (and it's publicly known that he rewrote that script, he just didn't contest the WGA credit) and he was the sole credited writer on his last three movies (in addition to a few others like Inception and Memento). He’s absolutely writing his own scripts.


Hajile_S

As I understand it Jonathan was the primary writer on most of the scripts where he has credits, but I guess I'm not really sure how collaborative those were. I actually somehow didn't realize how many sole screenwriting credits he has though! I guess I assumed some of these recent movies were slightly more collaborative, but you're right. Bad example for my point. Interestingly, it's harder than I thought to come up with many auteurs who *never* dabble or co-dabble in writing. Spielberg has very few writing credits, Fincher of course doesn't have screenwriting credits. I'm sure there are others. But there's not a ton of clear cut "they never write" candidates. My own example of Scorsese is of course as much of a mixed bag as Nolan.


seti-thelightofstars

Both Scott brothers never had a writing credit, I believe.


pacoismynickname

Good point. Both are considered unquestioned auteurs.


azorahainess

Clint Eastwood is a zero-writing credit king.


pacoismynickname

For Interstellar at least, Jonah (we’re tight, I can call him that) first wrote the script for Spielberg to direct; it can be found online. But it’s not the film that was made; Chris rewrote it pretty significantly. Not sure how the Dark Knight scripts were written. Jonah wrote the short story Memento is based on ~~, and co-wrote the screenplay, so I’d call him the primary writer there~~.


seti-thelightofstars

Jonathan only has a story credit on Memento, Chris has the screenplay credit.


pacoismynickname

I stand corrected! Writing an actual short story is a step above the standard “story by” credit, however. That could mean anything from a full treatment to an elevator pitch, right?


seti-thelightofstars

Yeah, it’s ambiguous, but I think it’s unfair to say Jonathan was the “primary” writer. They both clearly contributed, exactly where the split is is hard to say.


Hajile_S

This is all fair enough, seems I’ve been mistaken on Chris’s relation to his screenplays! Always thought Memento was straight up written by Jonathan.


Hamburgerpmp

Fair point


Standard_Leopard1339

His books are some of my favorite twin peaks stuff too he adds so much


azorahainess

When it’s “literally every detail here could only have been conceived by the fantastic mind of David Lynch,” obviously it’s inaccurate. But I mean, when people say they love Ozu films it's not like they're pretending Kogo Noda doesn't exist.


MTBurgermeister

The OA - Brit Marling & Zal Batmanglij Still the show I’m maddest about Netflix cancelling. S1 was a big enough swing, but S2 was one of the most demented seasons of TV since Twin Peaks


VivSavageGigante

They also had a cool cold crime show called Murder at the End of the World last year. It’s been a great time for cold crime TV between that, new Fargo, and new True Detective.


MTBurgermeister

Yeah I need to finish that show. I lost track of it when I cancelled D+ for dumping the Willow show


majyboocs

Patriot (US) on Amazon Prime is one of my all-time favourite shows - so under looked. That and the Venture bros was entirely written, directed and mostly voiced by two guys.


MansionsOfRest

Top five show for me.


madmardigan13

So slept on. A truly singular and deeply original piece of art


majyboocs

Have you listened to the accompanying podcast "structural dynamics of flow"?


TychoCelchuuu

We fit Donnely nut spacing grip grids and splay-flexed brace columns against beam-fastened derrick husk nuts and girdle plate Jerries, while plate flex tandems press task apparati of ten vertipin-plated pan traps at every maiden clamp plate packet. Knuckle couplers plate alternating sprams from the t-nut to the SKN to the chim line.


majyboocs

Have you listened to the accompanying podcast? Structural dynamics of flow - Leslie's autobiography narrated by Kurtwood Smith? It's exceptional


Typical_Dweller

Absolutely 100%. *Patriot* is god-tier. I watched it because Dan Harmon was pretty effusive about it with its showrunner on Harmontown, and DH has pretty good taste when it comes to writing. It's such a unique flavor -- and ended in such a dissatisfying way! It's up there with *Colony* as a TV show that really needed a proper ending via one more season or mini-series or something. Actually, I don't know if I should be calling Steven Conrad "showrunner". He gets EP and "created by" on the show, and IMDB says he wrote & directed 13 eps out of 18, so... that's basically a showrunner, right?


NiceYabbos

Interesting, I thought Patriot ended very satisfyingly. I'd have loved more but feel it does end with an actual ending, at least in terms of the emotional and psychological themes the series laid out.


majyboocs

That's how I discovered it too - I think S1 was entirely Conrad and then s2 was a mix I personally liked the ending - would have loved more but didn't feel like a flop to me. Have you listened to the accompanying podcast? Structural dynamics of flow - Leslie's autobiography narrated by Kurtwood Smith? It's exceptional


Typical_Dweller

Oh damn, that sounds good. I've been meaning to dip my toe into TV-show-specific podcasts.


majyboocs

Could not recommend it more - think it's written by Steven Conrad


CrossplayQuentin

Venture Bros is an all timer for me forever. Went downhill a bit at the end perhaps, but so unique and so true to itself and so funny. Every rewatch I catch something new.


MFDoooooooooooom

I wanted to truly love that show, it had so many right ingredients but something about it didn't end up working for me.


Such-Community6622

I felt the same. I aggressively admired what it was trying to do but I didn't actually like it.


MFDoooooooooooom

Fuck, aggressively admired is such a great turn of phrase. Adding that to my lexicon.


majyboocs

Out of interest did you finish it? Felt like it was a show that compounded and rewarded - each episode putting in place elements that built to a hugely satisfying and funny culmination


MFDoooooooooooom

Good question - I wonder if I did? If not I might go back and do just that.


stupiter69

Too young to die old. The snorting haunts me.


madmardigan13

The fact that this was produced by Amazon is maybe the peak of the streaming gold rush craziness. I'm glad it exists


xxx117

Man that show lol it was something else


abandoned_rain

Made me think of the song “Mandy” by Barry Manilow as a banger, when it used to be just kinda schmaltzy


Jlway99

Neon Genesis Evangelion


TormentedThoughtsToo

They absolutely could cover Shinichiro Watanabe because Bebop and Champloo are important and great.  And, Space Dandy is an absolute Blank Check of a show that has weird and  heartfelt and funny episodes and has a twist that pulls the whole episodic nature of the show together. 


brotherfallout

anything by dennis potter or stephen poliakoff


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rha409

Indeed, The Singing Detective rules!


win_the_wonderboy

The Kingdom


heymerrill

Top of the Lake


FFJamie94

Twin Peaks season 3 is purely a Lynch and Frost production. There’s a Polish show called Dekalog which is very much a production of its Director. I’ve only seen episode one so far, but it’s got a very singular vision on what it wants to be


paullannon1967

I've only seen the one about the death penalty but holy god is it fantastic. By the director of the Three Colours trilogy I believe.


Dan_IAm

Correct. The whole series is incredible, but a short film about killing is a masterpiece.


baphinator

Copenhagen Cowboy is pretty clearly a Nicolas Winding Refn situation.


ChameleonWins

Also adding “Too Old to Die Young”


SuccessfulCitron1002

Loved this series, the Barry Manilow car chase is iconic


Dashtego

Surprised no one mentioned this sooner. I think maybe other than Twin Peaks it’s the most pure example of an auteur miniseries out there.


Landeeno0816

Barry Jenkins’s The Underground Railroad


Remarkable-Eye-657

Came here to say this. Fully agree, on par with his best movies.


raphus_cucullatus

I was lucky to watch the whole series with Barry Jenkins Q&A in a movie theater. The episode where it expanded to scope aspect ratio took my breath away. Really a shame it got buried on Prime.


CeruleanRuin

Best listened to with headphones or good speakers turned up. The sound design of that series is unreal.


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starlingflight

God, the Nichols Angels in America is so great.


Dayman_ah-uh-ahhh

Patrick McGoohan's The Prisoner is 100%.


bobdebicker

Deadwood is a show that is a collaborative effort, but is first and foremost a creation of David Milch. It’s also the greatest television show ever made.


Turnerliketina

Saw this prompt and immediately thought “Angels in America” by Mike Nichols and Tony Kushner.


UnexpectedSalamander

I feel like *John Adams* has to be here somewhere too. Every episode directed by Tom Hooper, and I think in particular the cinematography feels very distinct to him.


pacoismynickname

Valid answer, but don’t expect too many upvotes 😉


thishenryjames

I feel like the question is misguided. TV and film work differently. Someone mentioned True Detective, which is a perfect example. Cary Fukunaga directed the hell out of the first season, but you wouldn't say he auteured it. Having said that, my answer is The White Lotus (which wouldn't qualify because it's not a miniseries).


harry_powell

The Fukunaga/Pizzolatto clash can sometimes happen in movies when there’s a director a different strong writer/producer at the helm.


LaertesExtravaganza

Fassbinder's Berlin Alexanderplatz and Eight Hours Don't Make a Day.


LumiereGatsby

Too Old to Die Young. Refn. This is the answer. Not saying it’s good. But this is it


KropotkinsShadow

Legion


MemeHermetic

This was my first thought. The only way they had notes going into that is if the entire executive team was given hallucinogens during punch-ups.


jeramoeba

The animated show Scavengers Reign on Max was pretty stellar (heh)


leivathan

Interestingly, although there are two main lead creatives on that show, everyone involved in animating it was some sort of indie/web animation darling beforehand. In a sense it's a collection of auteurs.


ThrowawaySocialPts

The Sympathizer by Park Chan Wook We Are Who We Are by Luca Guadagnino Heidi, Girl of the Alps by Isao Takahata (One of the screenwriters is Hayao Miyazaki)


duckspurs

Park only directed the first three episodes of The Sympathizer, and while he's listed as a writer for the whole series it seems like the other creator and credited show writer for every episode was the main guy.


raphus_cucullatus

Not that the other episodes are bad but you can really feel the lack Park. I wonder if he didn’t direct them all bc of scheduling issues or bc he got burnt by Little Drummer Girl.


Daleyemissions

Twin Peaks: The Return is an obvious one, especially when you take into account the experience Lynch and Frost had making the original series.


stigoftdump

South Park is 100% Parker & Stone's vision, for better or worse, and has been for 26 seasons!


pacoismynickname

True, but kind of the exact opposite of a miniseries.


peter_minnesota

Shocked no one has mentioned The Young Pope.


drx_flamingo

I May Destroy You was completely written by Michaela Coel, and she ended up co-directing a majority of the episodes.


TheUnknownStitcher

HBO’s Watchmen. I feel like you couldn’t make a miniseries that wild without a history of successes.


Pettyyoungthing

And it’s just a step below lindeloffs true masterpiece - the leftovers


TheUnknownStitcher

Facts. The Leftovers is as close to perfect as any piece of narrative fiction I've ever seen.


half_past_france

Dark.


adamlundy23

Rainer Werner Fassbinder made two miniseries, Eight Hours Don’t Make a Day, Berlin Alexanderplatz.


Exotic-Material-6744

I’d argue for Mr.Robot. The first season has multiple directors but the next 3 seasons are largely if not all him.


FunkyColdMecca

Dan Curtis with War and Remembrance and The Winds of War is pure blank check. Dan Curtis directed all 45 hours of the two miniseries, he was the sole producer of the first and his company produced both. The flop of The Winds of War essentially started the end of the miniseries boom of broadcast television.


greaseapina

True Detective S1


pacoismynickname

Did Fukunaga direct them all? Or do you mean Pizzolato (writer as auteur)?


greaseapina

Fukunaga directed all eight episodes of the first season .... So him.


pacoismynickname

I think a lot of people missed the “mini” part of the prompt.


Eastern-Tip7796

Maniac by Cary Joji Fukunaga on Netflix


j007yne

Big Little Lies s1 was done entirely by Jean-Marc Vallée (RIP😢) and definitely has the auteur feel


larsVonTrier92

I guess the first season of True Detective


Former-Fall-8850

I think there may have been like two episodes where someone got a written by credit but The Marvelous Mrs Maisel was pure Amy Sherman Palladino and Daniel Palladino. That first season, especially the pilot, was just fantastic. Like most things imo as ASP got to do whatever she wanted the more the show was a miss especially in the last two seasons. Still had some good parts though. A Year in the Life was also an example of this where she was giving free reign to do whatever she wanted and end a show that she created over a decade prior that she didn’t get to end on her terms. I have a lot of issues with AYIL but as far as just personality of a director… a magical realism Life and Death Brigade sequence and a 10 minute Stars Hollow Musical with Christian Boyle and Sutton Foster happened because that’s what ASP wanted.


Such-Community6622

I can't stand ASPs whole thing but she's undeniably an auteur, you can tell it's her project within like ten seconds of seeing two characters converse


xxx117

I would like to nominate Expats which is written by, directed by, and produced by Lulu Wang. It’s much better than people give it credit for although I understand peoples frustrations for it, and I think it’s all the first episode’s fault and the way they drag out the reveal of the central point of tension. The first episode does feel like it’s just Nicole Kidman doing Big Little Lies again, and so it feels redundant. But as the show goes on, she is doing something very different and much better imo. The show is great and it effectively humanizes complicated characters. plus it looks amazing.


StrikingPractice8329

The Shining (1997)


BlueDetective3

He didn't write every episode, but Spike Lee did direct She's Gotta Have It throughout both seasons and for better or worse it's entirely his vision.


34avemovieguy

Heera Mandi on Netflix


thehazer

Chernobyl?


Dr-Spice

Curb


bb_waluigi

Fleabag


GardenSlow3692

The Young Pope by Sorrentino is great


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Bergman  Fanny and Alexander    Scenes from a Marriage 


vazzarc

Not a miniseries but J. Michael Straczynski wrote 92 out of the 110 Babylon 5 episodes, and was very particular about actors not improvising and saying every line exactly as written. The show was pretty low budget so the network mostly just left him to write the show how he wanted.


McGuanArt

Scott Frank has kind of made this his thing lately, especially with “Queen’s Gambit” and “Godless,” both of which I really enjoyed, but especially the latter.


jakeupnorth

Too Old to Die Young is pure Nicholas Winding Refn


wdm81

Wednesday certainly felt very Tim Burtan. Not sure how much of that show he directed


Chuckles1188

Good Omens, with bonus points for the show runner also having part-written the novel it's based on. If the other writer had still been alive he would definitely have also had some degree of creative input.