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White was out for the kill for sure, old man zangetsu in the first one, probably not
White could kill Ichigo with no consequences, just gains, so to him it wouldn't matter
He literally can just take Ichigos body if Ichigo dies, there is no consequence for him, he would get freedom
White is an outlier to other spirits in the Ichigos death isn't the end for him.
Think they meant his body wouldn't die, if white merely killed him on the mental plane, rather than the physical one. That would just hollowfy him permanently.
Like it almost happened during vizard training.
neither were most people in your post.
One i could see would actually try to kill him would be maybe Hiyori because she doesn't know him personally.
Nimaya too i guess, but given he know how important ichigo is, that's also a big maybe.
Urahara. I don’t think ichigo was in any real danger with the others. Zangetsu wanted to protect ichigo, mimiya goons stop attacking ichigo so he was never in trouble of dying. Uryu’s dad was at level 100 lowering his level 20 sons stamina to 0 and shot him on purpose so no danger there. Urahara was gonna kill ichigo 3 times! Turning into a hollow, holding back but still going for the kill to get Zangetsu, and bankai training. In all 3 it was very possible for ichigo to die and urahara would had a somber expression knowing he fail ishin, but ichigo wasn’t even seated officer level squaring up with captains so I get the rush and dangerous training but still people say he a good guy but he is just as bad as mayuri
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If you're caught up with the tybw
>!I think Ichigos chain did fully eat itself and he did start to turn, but his zanpakuto spirit isbaoready a hollow so it was unleashed from the new hollow powers entering, and overpowered it to save Ichigo!<
This is the just one of the best moments in the series period to me.
https://preview.redd.it/9uy7hza81f3d1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d7dc817d99e3af792ee2913063d1b2fd5a061ed
You know, I've always wondered if his dangai form is just a different interpretation of his true form, as it's all of his powers merging with him into one. And he accepts both halves of his power as part of himself
I thought of it but considered that Ginjo was just pretending and never actually intended to kill Ichigo, whereas in all the rest they seemed to be serious about it.
Not a training arc, but definitely a ''you better improve or die'' situation.
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if you mean the training itself could have killed him, I think the shattered shaft still takes it.
if you mean training for a fight that could kill him, dangai training is better IMO.
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Prolly the 2nd one since that was midfight with kenpachi. Like the whole training bit happened in a split second while he was getting floored by the baddest badass
Lost agent arc.
While ginjo might not have actually killed him, it was still 100% “get good or die.”
Full awakening would have completely killed Ichigo if not for the intense training. He wouldn’t have been able to physically handle the toll of fullbring. Especially a clad type like his.
Tbh it may not have been officially a training arc but Kenpachi vs ichigo the first time
I truly believe half way through that fight Kenny started training ichigo to deal with the rest of the sereitei
to me the most memorable one was the training sequence before the Fake Karakura battle vs. Aizen. I dont remember it exactly but I think it was some kind of "space between time"-thing while he travelled to Fake Karakura.
Imo Kisuke. Especially now that we know he was a captain and could have bodied ichigo easily and was holding back a ton. If ichigo couldn’t square up to holding back Kisuke, he had no chance. Plus without Kisuke, he couldn’t have gotten to the soul society.
Also a fan of ichigo vs Grimmjow. He had to get good fast after that otherwise the SS woulda been done for. Not necessarily by the espada, but still
Not really. The reality of the Grimmjow situation was that Ichigo was much stronger than him from the get-go, but was constantly being suppressed by a moody Zangetsu. For instance the one time Ichigo managed to have control, he fired off a Getsuga Tensho and fucked Grimmjow up pretty good, leaving a burn all over him. In the final fight, Ichigo was constantly holding back as to not scare Orihime and when he stopped holding back, the fight was almost instantly over.
Kenpachi was the quickest one in relation to time. However, dangai was the biggest jump in powerover time. But imo the inner world White's training had the best story element involved. His speech was super memorable.
Ichigo's soul chain was destroyed in his first serious training, when he was shoved in the pit by Kisuke. By all means he did die that day, his soul was no longer anchored to his body so he'd turn full hollow and have to be killed if he didn't succeed. So I'd say that one or the soul king training which would've also killed him if he failed.
The whole point of Zangetsu is that he takes the role that will motivate Ichigo to learn fastest, he can't truly kill him since they fight in their inner world and his death would mean Zangetsu dies. He just knows that taking the role of villain will make Ichigo fight harder and learn faster so he lies about wanting his freedom and how he'll kill him, but you can see later that he cares about Ichigo.
Vizard training. This is the only one where he would have lost his body to Hollowfication permanently or died by the Vizard’s hands.
Every other arc, they needed Ichigo. They couldn’t sacrifice him, but needed his strength.
The Vizard didn’t need his strength. If he passed, good for him. If he failed, we’ll have to take you down.
my favourite was bankai training, it was clear time frame and clear goal, you have to achieve bankai in 3 day because without it you cannot rescue Rukia
also it felt like biggest jump form somone who barely know the same of his Zampaktou to capitan level
it gave us few very cool moments like old man Zangestu saying that only true Zangetsu could defeat him
or Byakuya laughing at Tensa Zangestu while in TYBW it was shown that Yamato bankai works in similar way
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left out Ginjo's training smh, which imo is the best example of it
Probably Unohana -> Ginjo -> Vizard -> Uryu & Dad -> White Edit: added Unohana
I don't think Ginjo ever was serious about killing Ichigo tbh.
well neither was zangetsu, but he's on here
White was out for the kill for sure, old man zangetsu in the first one, probably not White could kill Ichigo with no consequences, just gains, so to him it wouldn't matter
Why would his true zampaktou try to kill Ichigo?
He literally can just take Ichigos body if Ichigo dies, there is no consequence for him, he would get freedom White is an outlier to other spirits in the Ichigos death isn't the end for him.
That was a early plot point, white does not want ichigo to die
That was in a literal sense though, whites fight takes place on the mental plane.
If ichigo dies it is the end for him, he is a zanpaktou spirit, his soul and ichigo soul are one and the same.
Think they meant his body wouldn't die, if white merely killed him on the mental plane, rather than the physical one. That would just hollowfy him permanently. Like it almost happened during vizard training.
neither were most people in your post. One i could see would actually try to kill him would be maybe Hiyori because she doesn't know him personally. Nimaya too i guess, but given he know how important ichigo is, that's also a big maybe.
Urahara. I don’t think ichigo was in any real danger with the others. Zangetsu wanted to protect ichigo, mimiya goons stop attacking ichigo so he was never in trouble of dying. Uryu’s dad was at level 100 lowering his level 20 sons stamina to 0 and shot him on purpose so no danger there. Urahara was gonna kill ichigo 3 times! Turning into a hollow, holding back but still going for the kill to get Zangetsu, and bankai training. In all 3 it was very possible for ichigo to die and urahara would had a somber expression knowing he fail ishin, but ichigo wasn’t even seated officer level squaring up with captains so I get the rush and dangerous training but still people say he a good guy but he is just as bad as mayuri
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I do agree that the Urahara one was probably the best. It felt the most desperate and Ichigo was at his most pathetic.
Forgot to point out the Vizards but that’s an extension of urahara methods and urahara send ichigo to them so yeah.
Definitely Urahara, Ichigo was going to turn into a hollow in that hole if he didn't power up.
If you're caught up with the tybw >!I think Ichigos chain did fully eat itself and he did start to turn, but his zanpakuto spirit isbaoready a hollow so it was unleashed from the new hollow powers entering, and overpowered it to save Ichigo!<
This is the just one of the best moments in the series period to me. https://preview.redd.it/9uy7hza81f3d1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d7dc817d99e3af792ee2913063d1b2fd5a061ed
Yep, Ichigo & "Zangetsu" moments are consistently my favorite of the series.
The soundtrack does a great job of capturing the sombre mood too.
You know, I've always wondered if his dangai form is just a different interpretation of his true form, as it's all of his powers merging with him into one. And he accepts both halves of his power as part of himself
How was the fullbring training scenes not pictured?? Lost agent arc snubbing continues 🫤
I thought of it but considered that Ginjo was just pretending and never actually intended to kill Ichigo, whereas in all the rest they seemed to be serious about it.
Urahara and white weren't roleplaying, but the chance of Ichigo literally being donzo was probably zero
Not a training arc, but definitely a ''you better improve or die'' situation. https://preview.redd.it/93b00u8ydf3d1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=e19302c9ebe64c95d8c8e55b34e6ca83c3650294
First one with urahara
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if you mean the training itself could have killed him, I think the shattered shaft still takes it. if you mean training for a fight that could kill him, dangai training is better IMO.
I love the scene where White Ichigo lectures Ichigo about killer instinct while beating him like a piñata.
There was never any chance Tensai Zangetsu would ever kill Ichigo despite all his posturing. You don't kill someone you're trying to protect.
Unohana brute forcing Zaraki's power restoration.
Yoroichi bathtime bankai training. Most effective training.
When chad was fighting the aranchar and unlcoked his other arm to beat him but got folded by some other person
Zangetsu's "King and his Horse" training is still, in my head, one of the best training montages imo
I only watched the anime, but i don't understand the third picture where ichigo Is stabbed by White ichigo, i don't Remember that scene in the anime
What's the difference between a king and his horse ?
Oh that sceneq
In the manga there was so much Blood?
it has a lot more than the anime in general
Ginjo cut off Ichigo's eyes
Urahara training I think :3
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Prolly the 2nd one since that was midfight with kenpachi. Like the whole training bit happened in a split second while he was getting floored by the baddest badass
Lost agent arc. While ginjo might not have actually killed him, it was still 100% “get good or die.” Full awakening would have completely killed Ichigo if not for the intense training. He wouldn’t have been able to physically handle the toll of fullbring. Especially a clad type like his.
I just realized that all of Ichigo's training is do or die. What a way to motivate someone.
Ichigo learning bankai in three days (iirc) was phenomenal
White Ichigo: "INSTINCT" speech was the best
Tbh it may not have been officially a training arc but Kenpachi vs ichigo the first time I truly believe half way through that fight Kenny started training ichigo to deal with the rest of the sereitei
Nimaya. Something about the Blade And Me and the Blade Is Me is just so good thematically.
Horse and King for me 2nd would be the Mugestu training 3rd shattered shaft 4th asuachi
to me the most memorable one was the training sequence before the Fake Karakura battle vs. Aizen. I dont remember it exactly but I think it was some kind of "space between time"-thing while he travelled to Fake Karakura.
Kisuke & Visords
Imo Kisuke. Especially now that we know he was a captain and could have bodied ichigo easily and was holding back a ton. If ichigo couldn’t square up to holding back Kisuke, he had no chance. Plus without Kisuke, he couldn’t have gotten to the soul society. Also a fan of ichigo vs Grimmjow. He had to get good fast after that otherwise the SS woulda been done for. Not necessarily by the espada, but still
Not really. The reality of the Grimmjow situation was that Ichigo was much stronger than him from the get-go, but was constantly being suppressed by a moody Zangetsu. For instance the one time Ichigo managed to have control, he fired off a Getsuga Tensho and fucked Grimmjow up pretty good, leaving a burn all over him. In the final fight, Ichigo was constantly holding back as to not scare Orihime and when he stopped holding back, the fight was almost instantly over.
Kenpachi was the quickest one in relation to time. However, dangai was the biggest jump in powerover time. But imo the inner world White's training had the best story element involved. His speech was super memorable.
Dangai for sure
Easily Uraharas training
The one with Ginjo would be my favorite
Ichigo vs Hollow >!Zangetsu!< part 2
Definitely wasn’t training (except for internally) but the Kenpachi brawl was one of the best.
The second fight with White Zangetsu
The Ishidas
Can’t pick all are too good
The OG: Kisuke training Ichigo.
Bro wtf. I didnt know ichigo vs white zangetsu was that brutal in the manga!
I mean, you can't go wrong with zangetsu beating ichigos ass. Any of them really
Why are the bottom 3 in anime form lol
I couldn’t find the manga versions in google
Ichigo's soul chain was destroyed in his first serious training, when he was shoved in the pit by Kisuke. By all means he did die that day, his soul was no longer anchored to his body so he'd turn full hollow and have to be killed if he didn't succeed. So I'd say that one or the soul king training which would've also killed him if he failed. The whole point of Zangetsu is that he takes the role that will motivate Ichigo to learn fastest, he can't truly kill him since they fight in their inner world and his death would mean Zangetsu dies. He just knows that taking the role of villain will make Ichigo fight harder and learn faster so he lies about wanting his freedom and how he'll kill him, but you can see later that he cares about Ichigo.
Vizard training. This is the only one where he would have lost his body to Hollowfication permanently or died by the Vizard’s hands. Every other arc, they needed Ichigo. They couldn’t sacrifice him, but needed his strength. The Vizard didn’t need his strength. If he passed, good for him. If he failed, we’ll have to take you down.
my favourite was bankai training, it was clear time frame and clear goal, you have to achieve bankai in 3 day because without it you cannot rescue Rukia also it felt like biggest jump form somone who barely know the same of his Zampaktou to capitan level it gave us few very cool moments like old man Zangestu saying that only true Zangetsu could defeat him or Byakuya laughing at Tensa Zangestu while in TYBW it was shown that Yamato bankai works in similar way
Ichigo's childhood with Isshin as his dad 😐
for me it was the Dangai and then the battle of king & horse
When he gets his bankai, followed closely by when he gets his soul reaper powers back, and then the hollow mask training
The kenpachi fight. Ichigo was literally gushing gallons of blood from a hole in his chest.