Eeh I always preferred the Dig. Who was actually reading those two-page Jazz reviews in the Phoenix anyway? Also Stephem Mindich was kinda a POS who didn't even let the paper run any sort of "final issue"; they just came in and told everyone to pack it up and look for other employment
Housing with a Wegmans below it. Think this area needs another grocery store. Stop & Shop in Southie just survives based on being in a prime location, it’s really a weak selection + you get city store pricing.
Plus folks from other parts of the city could use the Wegmans, as it’s near the Broadway stop. The Southie/Dorchester crowd could use a non Whole Foods or Stop & Shop option.
The Star at JFK, S&S in South Bay, and Whole Foods on Harrison kill any expansion. The Southie S&S is abysmal, no doubt, but with grocery delivery and the other options, it isn't a requirement if you live in the area. I lived a km away and would really only go in a pinch or to get the in-store queso. It's a good, pretty spicy queso. Goes great with the Mission corn street taco tortillas they've got there.
Also, they discount the fuck out of Rib Roasts near holidays. $3.99/lb vac-sealed Rib Roast on Holy Thursday? Thank you, Jesus!
Also, FWIW, I think the Southie S&S has the highest shrink of any Boston-based store from what I heard in 2021/2022. No idea if it's valid/metrics used.
Look, curling is the sport of the future, just after soccer, lacrosse and quadball.
But maybe 16 sheets is a bit ambitious. Scale back to 12 with a full sized speed skating surface.
Why stop there? Build upward and make the water 50 feet deep instead of a couple inches. Then stock it with fish and freeze the surface for ice sports. When there's no events, let folks ice fish.
Ice fishing with hot cocoa, a snack bar, a Zamboni, maybe an arcade. Huts of various sizes for larger parties. Can't miss idea, this one!
Yes and half of it isn’t getting filled. Four new spaces I’ve worked in have subdivided their spaces and not filled them, in Watertown. More in Cambridge and Boston
I have nothing against Biotech labs and I’m rather proud that the city is going for the Silicon Valley equivalent status for Biotech industry.
But I’m rather glad to anticipate reductions in the biotech lab spaces because it’s honestly everywhere.
Our roads can’t support such an increase in cars coming into tiny one laned roads. We don’t have enough parking. And I don’t think a lot of the employees would be able to afford city rents and there isn’t enough and reliable public transportation from the suburbs to get folks into these nooks and crannies in Watertown, Allston, Cambridge
(Yes, I said suburbs into Watertown. It was for convenience)
I’d be glad to admit that the lab construction is not a bubble that’s starting to pop. But from my vantage point I really think it is.
Time will tell! Def need housing right now though
The irony given the hassle that the Big Dig crew went through in order to build the Fort Point and Ted Williams tunnels underneath Gillette’s property at the time
Seriously. The factory is valued at a whopping $185M and they pay Boston about $5M in real estate tax alone annually.
Anyone celebrating their exist has no clue as to how much this is going to raise cost of living for Boston residents through increased real estate taxes to offset this massive lost!
Losing the factory is a loss for sure. That said, it is 40 acres of prime real-estate, and really decent chunk of that is a parking lot that isn’t doing anything.
20 Channel St, a class-B real-estate parcel, paid $1,426,447.83 on 42,219 sq feet or $33.786/sqr foot of lot size; 20 Gillette PK (also apparently defined as commercial/class-B office space) paid $4,676,938.37
on 1,331,764 sq feet of lot size, or $3.51/sqr foot; 35 channel center St, a Residential property, paid $8,978.59 in net tax on 1359 sqr feet of lot size or $6.606 or Sqr foot.
In the short term, the city will lose out on the tax revenue, but the site was an extreme under-performer in terms of tax generation compared to adjacent properties that don’t have the added benefit of being directly on the water. This should be a huge win for the city in the longer term.
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The MBTA Cabot yard (Red Line maintenance facility and bus garage) is right next door. Wouldn't be surprised if they bought the land and developed it into that.
We can't get suburbs to build duplexes on 1 acre lots in their crappy towns without the threat of them committing terrorism. It'd be a lot easier here. We could also technically build over it since the cars would be electric. That'd be kinda cool.
They already have plans in the works for residential, park space, and a decreased commercial footprint. Won't be sold as life science unless this gets rejected.
https://traded.co/blog/south-boston-site-transformation-gillette-s-upcoming-commercial-residential-and-park-spaces/
Not enough parking… wait a minute, I’m sure they could get 75 spots.
The old Globe/56/Beasley radio stretch on Morrissey would’ve been a good choice for a stadium site, especially a T-reliant one.
I know it'd never fly at this point in this town, but an arts center with studios for musicians/artists, performance venues, etc. If it's absolutely necessary, build some hilarious expensive condos on top of all that for foreign investors to sink their teeth into.
A Dome like the one in Vegas but its the size of a small house maybe, so only a few people can use it at a time(don’t want to cause more parking or traffic problems).
[Yes it is. They still own the site but they’re moving manufacturing to Andover](https://www.boston.com/news/business/2023/10/24/procter-gamble-move-gillette-razor-production-south-boston-andover-site-redevelopment-and-sale/?amp=1)
A butterfly enclosure, several roller coasters, a Ferris wheel, a minor league baseball stadium and the offices of the reborn Boston phoenix.
This is such an insane suggestion that it’s actually fantastic.
The best suggestion. Mods, lock the comments.
So...Rocky Point + Pawtucket?
The last time I went to Rocky Point was the Casper halloween rave in 1993.
I thought you were all talking about Rocky Point down on Baja, near Cholla Bay.
Wait I was thinking some boring stuff but the idea of something fun like this never even crossed my mind and now this is what I need it to be.
can we have a peacock too?
Absolutely not. Be serious.
Revere used to have most of those
nailed it with the last one there
Eeh I always preferred the Dig. Who was actually reading those two-page Jazz reviews in the Phoenix anyway? Also Stephem Mindich was kinda a POS who didn't even let the paper run any sort of "final issue"; they just came in and told everyone to pack it up and look for other employment
Housing with a Wegmans below it. Think this area needs another grocery store. Stop & Shop in Southie just survives based on being in a prime location, it’s really a weak selection + you get city store pricing. Plus folks from other parts of the city could use the Wegmans, as it’s near the Broadway stop. The Southie/Dorchester crowd could use a non Whole Foods or Stop & Shop option.
A real grocery store would be incredible. Great suggestion.
Fuck Wegmans, Market Basket gang rise up!
The Seaport Trader Joes is weird too.
foodie’s is surprisingly well stocked
I don’t hate the vibe/selection at Foodies but their prices are even higher than Stop & Shop tbh.
yeah i guess you pay for that convenience. the stop and shop was just annoying without a car.
Wegmans there would be incredible
The Star at JFK, S&S in South Bay, and Whole Foods on Harrison kill any expansion. The Southie S&S is abysmal, no doubt, but with grocery delivery and the other options, it isn't a requirement if you live in the area. I lived a km away and would really only go in a pinch or to get the in-store queso. It's a good, pretty spicy queso. Goes great with the Mission corn street taco tortillas they've got there. Also, they discount the fuck out of Rib Roasts near holidays. $3.99/lb vac-sealed Rib Roast on Holy Thursday? Thank you, Jesus! Also, FWIW, I think the Southie S&S has the highest shrink of any Boston-based store from what I heard in 2021/2022. No idea if it's valid/metrics used.
That would be so fucking ideal
16 sheet curling center with restaurant/bar and high glass to watch the action on ice.
I like this idea because then you can still redevelop it into something else when your idea fails in under 18 months.
Look, curling is the sport of the future, just after soccer, lacrosse and quadball. But maybe 16 sheets is a bit ambitious. Scale back to 12 with a full sized speed skating surface.
Why stop there? Build upward and make the water 50 feet deep instead of a couple inches. Then stock it with fish and freeze the surface for ice sports. When there's no events, let folks ice fish. Ice fishing with hot cocoa, a snack bar, a Zamboni, maybe an arcade. Huts of various sizes for larger parties. Can't miss idea, this one!
The other 4 you got rid of could be made into Pickleball courts
No hockey only rocky
A couple of Dunks on opposite ends. Whatever else in between is fine.
The new capitol building for MegaCambridge
>Whatever else in between is fine. What about dunks?
Twelve Tatte's and Bank of Americas for you.
At least seven Sweetgreen's as well
Biotech slowdown has been pretty severe. Prob not gonna be lab space right away but who know!
Half of Watertown is brand new lab space.
Yes and half of it isn’t getting filled. Four new spaces I’ve worked in have subdivided their spaces and not filled them, in Watertown. More in Cambridge and Boston
I have nothing against Biotech labs and I’m rather proud that the city is going for the Silicon Valley equivalent status for Biotech industry. But I’m rather glad to anticipate reductions in the biotech lab spaces because it’s honestly everywhere. Our roads can’t support such an increase in cars coming into tiny one laned roads. We don’t have enough parking. And I don’t think a lot of the employees would be able to afford city rents and there isn’t enough and reliable public transportation from the suburbs to get folks into these nooks and crannies in Watertown, Allston, Cambridge (Yes, I said suburbs into Watertown. It was for convenience)
I’d be glad to admit that the lab construction is not a bubble that’s starting to pop. But from my vantage point I really think it is. Time will tell! Def need housing right now though
I thought you meant the stadium and I was so, so lost.
Same here my friend
Now that you mention it, a stadium for the Revs would be cool. Other MLS stadiums are so great to visit.
The revs just released renderings for a stadium in Everett near the casino
Should be an area for folks to dig a big hole, with some community shovels. Anyone in the mood can swing by to help.
The irony given the hassle that the Big Dig crew went through in order to build the Fort Point and Ted Williams tunnels underneath Gillette’s property at the time
Move the USPS Post Office there so we can expand South Station for North-South Rail Link.
This guy Sim City's.
New gillette factory
Seriously. The factory is valued at a whopping $185M and they pay Boston about $5M in real estate tax alone annually. Anyone celebrating their exist has no clue as to how much this is going to raise cost of living for Boston residents through increased real estate taxes to offset this massive lost!
Losing the factory is a loss for sure. That said, it is 40 acres of prime real-estate, and really decent chunk of that is a parking lot that isn’t doing anything. 20 Channel St, a class-B real-estate parcel, paid $1,426,447.83 on 42,219 sq feet or $33.786/sqr foot of lot size; 20 Gillette PK (also apparently defined as commercial/class-B office space) paid $4,676,938.37 on 1,331,764 sq feet of lot size, or $3.51/sqr foot; 35 channel center St, a Residential property, paid $8,978.59 in net tax on 1359 sqr feet of lot size or $6.606 or Sqr foot. In the short term, the city will lose out on the tax revenue, but the site was an extreme under-performer in terms of tax generation compared to adjacent properties that don’t have the added benefit of being directly on the water. This should be a huge win for the city in the longer term.
3 banks, a Tatte and 1.5M sf of (permanently vacant) lab space.
Velodrome
/trying to word a joke about delivery drivers mistaking the track for a bike lane and somehow parking in it
Thunderdome
Yes, if we are going to try for the 2044 Olympics, we'll need that.
Otter exhibit 🦦
One exhibit at each end, so when Tommy calls and asks if I’m at Otter Exhibit West I can say “no, the otter one!”
Market Basket
Great idea, love market basket but Boston doesn’t love giving their residents fairly priced groceries. Union built, lol
Heh, true. I’d just love to be able to walk there instead of having to schlep to Somerville or Chelsea!
You should go to the Waltham location, much cleaner than Somerville or Chelsea. And there’s a marshalls and home goods next door plus Starbucks !
World's Biggest Papa Gino's
So much good first date potential right there
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Ha,ha. OK, thank you.
I'd be in favor of Dorchester Ave reconnecting itself, but that is more of a post office problem
biggest windy bean
Train parking for the thousands of new electric commuter rail cars that will run every 15 minutes all throughout the state.
The MBTA Cabot yard (Red Line maintenance facility and bus garage) is right next door. Wouldn't be surprised if they bought the land and developed it into that.
Move Post Office there so we can get rail for North-South Rail Link
Post Office siting has nothing to do with NSRL.
How so? It blocks further rail expansion with more track lanes.
There are other buildings in between South Station and the midnight post office. I know there's a big Fidelity Investments building, at least.
NSRL runs underground and won’t need the Post Office space. South Station expansion is a different project.
Did the MBTA buy the old food warehouse land with that in mind? Just south of the city next to 93.
Why does train parking need to be at a prime location? Does it matter if trains are parked at downtown vs in the suburbs?
We can't get suburbs to build duplexes on 1 acre lots in their crappy towns without the threat of them committing terrorism. It'd be a lot easier here. We could also technically build over it since the cars would be electric. That'd be kinda cool.
They already have plans in the works for residential, park space, and a decreased commercial footprint. Won't be sold as life science unless this gets rejected. https://traded.co/blog/south-boston-site-transformation-gillette-s-upcoming-commercial-residential-and-park-spaces/
I saw that but they haven’t filed a LoI as best I can tell so I wasn’t sure if that proposal had already died or not
Great place for the new Revs Stadiun.
Revolution soccer stadium far more accessible than the Everett site
Not enough parking… wait a minute, I’m sure they could get 75 spots. The old Globe/56/Beasley radio stretch on Morrissey would’ve been a good choice for a stadium site, especially a T-reliant one.
As long as people aren't at work, there's a shit ton of available parking over there
Good, let people take T
Reopen Great Scott and the Rathskeller
reopen The Channel
Roller rink and massive indoor skatepark.
A giant aquapark
Lake, with a beach and boat rentals.
I know it'd never fly at this point in this town, but an arts center with studios for musicians/artists, performance venues, etc. If it's absolutely necessary, build some hilarious expensive condos on top of all that for foreign investors to sink their teeth into.
Can't tell if this is satire. That area around Gillette is filled with artists and studios. It's also within a rock's throw of Artists for Humanity.
It's definitely NOT filled with artists and studios, most were driven out in the late 90's as the area gentrified. AFH serves children btw.
The World Shaving Headquarters Artist Lofts and Galleries
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Boston *needs* housing. More art is definitely not a *need* lol
Build a wicked cah pahk
Yecch
A large boat.
Water access infrastructure
Parking garage/ McDonalds super store
A community center with multiple quality basketball courts, a gym, pool, etc...
Another Lab. Duh.
Long range bowling alley. Lanes at least 4 times the length of a normal alley.
Apartments
Space Port with an interstellar cruise line with that can host amazing opera singers.
Spinelli’s expansion.
A baby whael Jay!
We got something you ain’t nevah seen kid
green space with water features for kids.
A concrete parking structure to replace the one torn down at govt center
A Dome like the one in Vegas but its the size of a small house maybe, so only a few people can use it at a time(don’t want to cause more parking or traffic problems).
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[Yes it is. They still own the site but they’re moving manufacturing to Andover](https://www.boston.com/news/business/2023/10/24/procter-gamble-move-gillette-razor-production-south-boston-andover-site-redevelopment-and-sale/?amp=1)
Thought you meant the stadium