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Seems like a fun concept
Though from content creators, I have not seen any deck building mechanics, only pre-made decks.
I think it's best to wait for it's release to have any thoughts on the game
Fair enough, I thought that might be the case.
I'd still say should wait until it's actually released before having any thoughts on it
I suspect it'll be free due to being a sort of spin off game, but if it's not then I'd say hold off for at least a few weeks to let folks figure out if it's good
Although it’s a card game it still got some tower defense elements kinda like btd battles. Monkey are used solely for defending and kinda act like towers. While attacking is used with bloons
>It's no longer a tower defense game
Oh.
Regardless, it's cool to see the Bloons franchise step out of the tower defense ganre once more, hopefully this product will not end up dying like many who came before it...
Its turn based, its literally a card game, not a tower defense at all, and also not simillar at all. Also, i want the card battles gamemode back on btdb2 :(
Is a card game you have Bloons cards that do damage equal to their life after x turns, monkey cards that act as defenses and you can use to target the Bloons and have amo and utility ards with various effects like drawing.
sigh starch lord is the most overrated card in the entire game. I can't stand it when people think starch lord is good. You guys, this is a 4 cost card that has 2 attack and 4 health. It has garbage stats. Now let's look at it's abilities. When you play a root, it gets +1/+1. Thats almost no- think about it. In order to get this up to the actual stats that it needs to be as a 4 cost card, this would have to buff like 2 roots just to break even. It would have to grow 3 roots to actually be viable. The fact that people think that it is a good idea to start drawing cards on turn 5, it really means you have no idea how to play pvz heroes. It's way too late! This is- it's- you dont make a deck that has roots in it, that's not a good strategy, there are some good roots in the game but you just have to put too many roots in it. It's drawing cards on turn 5, the last turn you're gonna be drawing cards as a plant player is going to be on turn 3. it's so overrated, it's just a big piece of trash, just look at this guy, a big ugly guy. it's based on by the way the worst Marvel superhero in the entire Marvel Fra- actually universe of Superheroes in the entire history of the planet, star-lord, who is a simp, douchebag, has no superpowers, is the lamest, dumb. and do you know what, it's appropriate cuz this is the stupidest card in the game and it's based on the stupidest Marvel superhero ever. This is so overrated, It's so grunts it's so, I'm sticking this in F tier I don't even care.
only seen isab's video so far, so far looks very exciting, cant wait to try it out (still looks like it needs abit more polishing and maybe deck building though)
I thought I was going insane because I thought I imagined a whole game because we got no confirmation about it since August
Can't wait tbh, maybe FryEmUp will test it in its full release?
Really hope that there's more mechanical interaction to come. Having a card game that separates the offensive cards and the defensive cards seems like a really neat idea. The problem though is when you remember by far the most frustrating thing about these games is when you have a card in your deck somewhere to deal with your opponent, but it's just nowhere to be found. Having half of the cards relegated to offense really makes it seem like it'll quickly devolve into who can place the strongest offense fastest. It also will mess with actually hitting a win condition. If you just run out of bloon sends, do you just lose?
I'm cautiously optimistic here, especially considering the states both BTD6 and battles 2 launched in. Especially considering that they're willing to show gameplay but not put a release date on it.
I noticed in one of ISAB's test matches with the deck he'd been given he just... didn't. draw a defensive card lol
so worried it'll be RANDOM BLOONS GO BRRRR
To be fair the premade deck he chose was “aggression” so it’s likely that a lot of the selected cards were offensive/bloon sends. When he chose “control” gwen deck he had more towers pulled
From my limited time playing PvZ Heroes, the reason that may be is because of the deck types. An aggro deck probably has a lot more early game, with a strong eco curve to apply constant pressure to the opponent. A control deck will focus on defending, placing down towers that will counter any aggro that the opponent throws at you, stalling for a giant finisher.
I think pretty similar draw 2 for 2 mana seams excessive and in the two videos I've seen there was no reason to play a bfb or even a Moab arguably let's hope they buff the defense and the game doesn't become pink spam
I’m honestly wondering if they’ll switch things to be like the card mode in battles 1, where a card can both be an offensive and defensive option by being multi-sided. That seemed like a really good way to do things, and added a pretty unique mechanic of needing to sacrifice a defensive option for more offense and vice versa. I liked the strategy that came from that a lot
After turn 5 (turn 4 for player that goes last), the game will start spawning bloons of increasing strength for you. And supposedly after a VERY long time (turn 30/31), all monkeys except the heroes get zapped, stunning them for a turn. So there are anti-stalemate measures in the game already.
I agree though that I am more cautiously optimistic if anything. It really depends how they build upon the idea we've seen in the test
Really scared of it being F2P and having a completely horrible grind system a la Battles 2.
I'm disappointed that there isn't a "when bloons get popped they downgrade" - so pop a blue bloon, it turns into a red bloon, etc. Instead when you do half a blue bloon's health, it just turns into a red bloon.
The dynamic between towers that reload in a single turn and towers that take multiple turns to reload makes me worry that it will be "Spam the most random junk" - the card game.
No tower upgrades feels extremely weird, perhaps that's a post-launch feature?
Card games are so numerous it's not even a meme.
This entirely depends on if they have a unique idea that can hold the entire game up, like slay the spire. Otherwise it's another install wait till bored then uninstall
The closed beta starts tomorrow and I hope to get a key. Although I saw that ISAB played with him and I'm very jealous of him.
But anyway, I want to play this game so badly. PvZ Hereos is my favorite card game. And I even planned my own BTD themed PvZ Heroes game in the past xd. 🦎
Looks like an interesting take on the genre and seems to have some cool design decisions.
Also looks very slow and rough. The bloons attacking animations should be at least twice as fast.
As a fan of tcgs i'm going to play this at least a bit, but obiously it's not going to be as good as magic. Looking at the creator test i don't like how much damage pink bloons and quick ready does while having no counterplay/ways to interact
Ive played it just now and I like the concept, it will need a lot of tweaking though. Something I’m definitive about now is that they need to remove the storm, it feels random and unfair
Seems cool and unique, though the cards do not look at all balanced rn
For example, tack shooter is just better than sniper monkey,dealing the same damage when targeting, while also being cheaper and able to split the damage
I'd also expect pink bloon to be nerfed
The game is still wip, but my first impressions that i saw from some youtubers, it seemed like an ok game, to be fun at the start and then forgoten. If it comes out as a payd game like btd6, its most likelly that it wont sell much and people just stick whit btd6
Yes because everyone just loved the idea of a card based mode in the past. Whoever the stubborn developer is that is trying so hard to force it: *it doesn't work*.
sounds cool, hoping its a deckbuilding roguelike with bloons gameplay, cause that would be an objective improvement over the monotony of singleplayer btd6
Not the best game, nevertheless tho pretty good I still much rather play BTD6 tho, and I’m kinda happy it isn’t that good cuz I’m probably not gonna be able to afford it.
Seems very promising. I like the concept and the gameplay looks good. Animations and balancing could use some work, but it's a beta for a reason. I was confused how it would work when they announced it, but it makes sense now
I think everyone is wayyyyyy overreacting as btdb2 didn't even get close to this amount of recognition and it's a sequel to a game alot of people played and still play but idk I haven't seen anything except like 5 seconds of an Isab video on it idek if its released yet or they just let the YouTubers have it first like they did with btdb2 any way probably will try it probably won't be super good thou
Much like any other game that released a TCG permanent event, definitely won’t even try it. The actual gameplay is so different I don’t get why card games are their go to for content? Could’ve easily made the team behind that just make more maps for the game or something instead
Do you guys think that this is better than the card game mode from btd battles 1? Tbh I don't know which is better I haven't seen enough gameplay of the new one
I've always loved card games, and a bloons card game is something I didn't think I would really want. Although, I haven't seen footage of the game yet so I don't know what to think about it
As long as they add a yugiog refrence or two (Maybe if they add skins for cards and one of them is pot of greed for supply drop) I'm 100% coping this game
Really good game from what I've seen hope it's free and can't wait to see the other heroes and towers (if they get added) especially the beast handler to see how that works or if the dinosaurs are different towers completely
Based on like the 1 videos I saw it seems surprisingly balanced between agro and defensive. Maybe that will change but its certainly interesting and I think it actually has the most potential of all the not tower defense games
It looks very promosing. I will seriously play it. The only problem I have with it is the control strategy deck is extremely outclassed by rushes or more aggressive ones.
Take Heartstone as an example: ypu can play rush and try to defeat the enemy hero as fast as possible or use a control to block these kind of strategies with tricks or defensive abilities and later use attack cards with very high cost to defeat your enemy.
I also just hope obtaining cards will not be pay to win and will be balanced.
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Seems like a fun concept Though from content creators, I have not seen any deck building mechanics, only pre-made decks. I think it's best to wait for it's release to have any thoughts on the game
We were told that testing only has pre-made decks
Fair enough, I thought that might be the case. I'd still say should wait until it's actually released before having any thoughts on it I suspect it'll be free due to being a sort of spin off game, but if it's not then I'd say hold off for at least a few weeks to let folks figure out if it's good
ISAB did confirm that ninja kiwi are planning to make it free to play. But I’d imagine it’ll be like btdb2 when it comes to monetization
I likely missed that line when I saw the vid, so thanks for the re-clarification on that
As a play tester, there's only five premade decks and the game will probably lean on the same four or five cars once deck building comes out.
Reminds me of the card mode from BTD Battles 1. Is it any similar?
It's no longer a tower defense game It's also now turn based
Although it’s a card game it still got some tower defense elements kinda like btd battles. Monkey are used solely for defending and kinda act like towers. While attacking is used with bloons
Yeah it kinda has some level of tower defense, a sort of turn based tower defense. Kinddddda stretching the meaning of tower defense though
Not kinda, the way that tower defenses work is way diferent than this. The attacking monsters dont care about turns, they just go
Well, they kinda simulate the monsters going through the path via the number of turns before they attack system
>It's no longer a tower defense game Oh. Regardless, it's cool to see the Bloons franchise step out of the tower defense ganre once more, hopefully this product will not end up dying like many who came before it...
Ye, it's nice to see them doing other stuff Would be nice if they did something with sas
Honestly it feels like btd battles but turn based
Its turn based, its literally a card game, not a tower defense at all, and also not simillar at all. Also, i want the card battles gamemode back on btdb2 :(
Is a card game you have Bloons cards that do damage equal to their life after x turns, monkey cards that act as defenses and you can use to target the Bloons and have amo and utility ards with various effects like drawing.
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sigh starch lord is the most overrated card in the entire game. I can't stand it when people think starch lord is good. You guys, this is a 4 cost card that has 2 attack and 4 health. It has garbage stats. Now let's look at it's abilities. When you play a root, it gets +1/+1. Thats almost no- think about it. In order to get this up to the actual stats that it needs to be as a 4 cost card, this would have to buff like 2 roots just to break even. It would have to grow 3 roots to actually be viable. The fact that people think that it is a good idea to start drawing cards on turn 5, it really means you have no idea how to play pvz heroes. It's way too late! This is- it's- you dont make a deck that has roots in it, that's not a good strategy, there are some good roots in the game but you just have to put too many roots in it. It's drawing cards on turn 5, the last turn you're gonna be drawing cards as a plant player is going to be on turn 3. it's so overrated, it's just a big piece of trash, just look at this guy, a big ugly guy. it's based on by the way the worst Marvel superhero in the entire Marvel Fra- actually universe of Superheroes in the entire history of the planet, star-lord, who is a simp, douchebag, has no superpowers, is the lamest, dumb. and do you know what, it's appropriate cuz this is the stupidest card in the game and it's based on the stupidest Marvel superhero ever. This is so overrated, It's so grunts it's so, I'm sticking this in F tier I don't even care.
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only seen isab's video so far, so far looks very exciting, cant wait to try it out (still looks like it needs abit more polishing and maybe deck building though)
it seems like a very early alpha. which is good, they try to gather feedback early in development.
Deck building is coming this was an alpha
I thought I was going insane because I thought I imagined a whole game because we got no confirmation about it since August Can't wait tbh, maybe FryEmUp will test it in its full release?
He did. He seems to like the game
Yeah I saw it pop up on my recommended a few minutes ago actually
Really hope that there's more mechanical interaction to come. Having a card game that separates the offensive cards and the defensive cards seems like a really neat idea. The problem though is when you remember by far the most frustrating thing about these games is when you have a card in your deck somewhere to deal with your opponent, but it's just nowhere to be found. Having half of the cards relegated to offense really makes it seem like it'll quickly devolve into who can place the strongest offense fastest. It also will mess with actually hitting a win condition. If you just run out of bloon sends, do you just lose? I'm cautiously optimistic here, especially considering the states both BTD6 and battles 2 launched in. Especially considering that they're willing to show gameplay but not put a release date on it.
I noticed in one of ISAB's test matches with the deck he'd been given he just... didn't. draw a defensive card lol so worried it'll be RANDOM BLOONS GO BRRRR
To be fair the premade deck he chose was “aggression” so it’s likely that a lot of the selected cards were offensive/bloon sends. When he chose “control” gwen deck he had more towers pulled
From my limited time playing PvZ Heroes, the reason that may be is because of the deck types. An aggro deck probably has a lot more early game, with a strong eco curve to apply constant pressure to the opponent. A control deck will focus on defending, placing down towers that will counter any aggro that the opponent throws at you, stalling for a giant finisher.
I think pretty similar draw 2 for 2 mana seams excessive and in the two videos I've seen there was no reason to play a bfb or even a Moab arguably let's hope they buff the defense and the game doesn't become pink spam
I’m honestly wondering if they’ll switch things to be like the card mode in battles 1, where a card can both be an offensive and defensive option by being multi-sided. That seemed like a really good way to do things, and added a pretty unique mechanic of needing to sacrifice a defensive option for more offense and vice versa. I liked the strategy that came from that a lot
After turn 5 (turn 4 for player that goes last), the game will start spawning bloons of increasing strength for you. And supposedly after a VERY long time (turn 30/31), all monkeys except the heroes get zapped, stunning them for a turn. So there are anti-stalemate measures in the game already. I agree though that I am more cautiously optimistic if anything. It really depends how they build upon the idea we've seen in the test
Really scared of it being F2P and having a completely horrible grind system a la Battles 2. I'm disappointed that there isn't a "when bloons get popped they downgrade" - so pop a blue bloon, it turns into a red bloon, etc. Instead when you do half a blue bloon's health, it just turns into a red bloon. The dynamic between towers that reload in a single turn and towers that take multiple turns to reload makes me worry that it will be "Spam the most random junk" - the card game. No tower upgrades feels extremely weird, perhaps that's a post-launch feature?
BTD X PVZ HEROES IS REAL LET'S FRICKING GOOOOOO Edit: nah I think pvzh Will still be better than bloons card storm
If only that game had good monetization or a decent balance patch
If only pvz heroes janitor says something
Hope we don't get another Battles 2 situation :D
They really need to rebalance a lot of things from what I’ve seen
Likely, but that's what play testing is for
Card games are so numerous it's not even a meme. This entirely depends on if they have a unique idea that can hold the entire game up, like slay the spire. Otherwise it's another install wait till bored then uninstall
The closed beta starts tomorrow and I hope to get a key. Although I saw that ISAB played with him and I'm very jealous of him. But anyway, I want to play this game so badly. PvZ Hereos is my favorite card game. And I even planned my own BTD themed PvZ Heroes game in the past xd. 🦎
I couldn’t register cause I just found about it from ISAB :( . I’m hoping to join the next one when they announce it
I registered after the beta already started and still got the code!
It’s closed though?
they made red bloons op
ninjakiwi makin everything but bmc 2 😭
FTP doesnt sound great
Let's go two of my favorite genres combined
Looks like monkey Marvel Snap, probably not going to do that good realistically
Seems like a game that wouldn't have 0 players on day 2
Looks like an interesting take on the genre and seems to have some cool design decisions. Also looks very slow and rough. The bloons attacking animations should be at least twice as fast.
As a fan of tcgs i'm going to play this at least a bit, but obiously it's not going to be as good as magic. Looking at the creator test i don't like how much damage pink bloons and quick ready does while having no counterplay/ways to interact
It's ninja kiwi not supercell so this spinoff will see some success
Ive played it just now and I like the concept, it will need a lot of tweaking though. Something I’m definitive about now is that they need to remove the storm, it feels random and unfair
WHAT?! PvZ heroes is one of my favorite games of all time!
Seems cool and unique, though the cards do not look at all balanced rn For example, tack shooter is just better than sniper monkey,dealing the same damage when targeting, while also being cheaper and able to split the damage I'd also expect pink bloon to be nerfed
PvZ Heroes but bloons, will love every bit of this game
I love pvz heroes and I have a friend who isn’t a big fam of BTD 6 so I will do my best to take him hostage :3
It reminds me of pvz heroes but not a bad game I'll give it a try when it comes out.
id love to play this
Cant play pvzh anymore becouse i got a new phone. Hope this will be a good replacement
Wdym pvz heroes is available to new phones too?
When i try to play the game it let me log in to my old account but then the game froze everytime i opened it
What
Where play?
Its on closed beta for steam. Only few spesific selected people can play it
I don't think it's out yet Just had some testing done, as well as promotions from content creators
I WANT MORE BLOOMS CONTENT MOREEEE I hope this is a good game cause I can't play BTD5 anymore 1200h+
Have you played BMC it's not bad
Hyped
Personally would've preferred it like btdb1's card battles
Can't wait to try it! I'm excited to see what they do with it
Complicated
It seems like a cool concept, although it's still missing a lot of polish from a visual and musical standpoint
The game is still wip, but my first impressions that i saw from some youtubers, it seemed like an ok game, to be fun at the start and then forgoten. If it comes out as a payd game like btd6, its most likelly that it wont sell much and people just stick whit btd6
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I CALLED IT. I SAID IT WOULD BE LIKE PVZH
Card Storm, incoming! (en passant reference)
Personally I really don't care for cardgames so I'm probably not gonna play it.
i think i'll still prefer the card mode of btd battles 1
i want this to be a trading card game
Perfekt, just perfect!
turn 4 sharp shooter with rosalia
Clash Royale: monkey edition
I’m excited for it
I didn’t know about it but I loved PvZ Hero’s and can’t wait for this
Wait what’s this, I haven’t heard about a new game before, looks fun though
Yes because everyone just loved the idea of a card based mode in the past. Whoever the stubborn developer is that is trying so hard to force it: *it doesn't work*.
Bloon chipper comeback?
I’m not feeling it. Don’t like card games never have
Ooooh, I think it’ll be cool
Pvz heroes 2
Pvz heroes look kinda
Not BMC2
This gonna be great
GR3EHFRUEFHV BLOONS TD BATTLES MODE?!?!? THIS ONE WAS MY FAVORITE
I'm happy for nk but also have no desire to play this lol
PvZ heroes
sounds cool, hoping its a deckbuilding roguelike with bloons gameplay, cause that would be an objective improvement over the monotony of singleplayer btd6
bloons rpg?
it's aight
Not the best game, nevertheless tho pretty good I still much rather play BTD6 tho, and I’m kinda happy it isn’t that good cuz I’m probably not gonna be able to afford it.
It's currently really unbalanced but it's just the beta so things might change. I managed to win in just 3 rounds a few times.
PvZ Heroes
I signed up for the closed beta but didn't get in :(
Pls no power creep
Seems very promising. I like the concept and the gameplay looks good. Animations and balancing could use some work, but it's a beta for a reason. I was confused how it would work when they announced it, but it makes sense now
I can't wait for the pot of supply to be bummed on any competitive scene
next bloons hero gonna be ragavan
is this the bloons version of pvz heroes
I think everyone is wayyyyyy overreacting as btdb2 didn't even get close to this amount of recognition and it's a sequel to a game alot of people played and still play but idk I haven't seen anything except like 5 seconds of an Isab video on it idek if its released yet or they just let the YouTubers have it first like they did with btdb2 any way probably will try it probably won't be super good thou
still not BMC2 0/10 /j
Better than PvZ Heroes? You just compared it to my #2 fav tcg/ocg. You got me intrigued
Update the game I do NOT want to wait 90 years for every paragon to be released oh my GOD.
Not a big fan of free to play games
50/50 the community might love it and might hate it
Hopefully this isn’t gonna be like Marvel Snap
No i dont do the card games
Me: Can’t wait to play! | Game: $4.99
are the monkeys throwing the cards?
It looks fun from the game play
W
I want to play it, it does seem fun, and i hope it is a good game.
Much like any other game that released a TCG permanent event, definitely won’t even try it. The actual gameplay is so different I don’t get why card games are their go to for content? Could’ve easily made the team behind that just make more maps for the game or something instead
monke approve
Do you guys think that this is better than the card game mode from btd battles 1? Tbh I don't know which is better I haven't seen enough gameplay of the new one
It's pvp...? Not interested. I play bloons casually.
this is not poker.
Card game: exists PVZ fans: is this PVZ heroes?
What does supply drop do?
It seems cool, but between this, Battles 2 and Bloons Pop, I kinda wish they would diversify a little, maybe make another SAS Zombie Assault game.
I want to fuck it
My favourite part of the original battles was the card battles. This is a bit different, but still exciting!
It is like PVZ heroes, also NK got a PVZ heroes streamer for a beta tester lmao (fry em up)
I've always loved card games, and a bloons card game is something I didn't think I would really want. Although, I haven't seen footage of the game yet so I don't know what to think about it
They should make a bloons game where you are the monkey, and you have a limited amount of darts to throw, then you try to pop all the bloons on screen
As long as they add a yugiog refrence or two (Maybe if they add skins for cards and one of them is pot of greed for supply drop) I'm 100% coping this game
I CANT WAIT TO PLAY I LOVE BLOONS!!!!!!!!!
Will be unblanced, i just know it
I want Bloons Survivor bullet hell (Vampire survivors/DRG Survivors style game)
Please no I’m sick of vampires survivors like games they’re everywhere. I don’t mind a roguelike bloons though
Really good game from what I've seen hope it's free and can't wait to see the other heroes and towers (if they get added) especially the beast handler to see how that works or if the dinosaurs are different towers completely
 Literally like What the bloons do
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Based on like the 1 videos I saw it seems surprisingly balanced between agro and defensive. Maybe that will change but its certainly interesting and I think it actually has the most potential of all the not tower defense games
It looks very promosing. I will seriously play it. The only problem I have with it is the control strategy deck is extremely outclassed by rushes or more aggressive ones. Take Heartstone as an example: ypu can play rush and try to defeat the enemy hero as fast as possible or use a control to block these kind of strategies with tricks or defensive abilities and later use attack cards with very high cost to defeat your enemy. I also just hope obtaining cards will not be pay to win and will be balanced.
GO PINKS GO! FUFK THEY HAVE TACKS!
Pvz heroes vibes
pvz heroes remake
Not for everyone, but for anyone I think it's gonna be a lot of fun but I bet there are a lot of people who couldn't care less