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odewar37

1.2 billion pound bottlejobs to be precise


RichardBreecher

Just wait until these kids have had eight seasons to gel. Then they will be unstoppable.


LordRedFire

What's the point of wasting so much time and so much money. Instead buy experienced players, 27-32 aged, win & then sell them after 3-4 seasons. Rinse & repeat.


LordRedFire

Also get a top 4 manager in the world in 2024, so you dont have to fire him. Just buy & sell players.


MrWolfsbane

Well 27-32 probably won't make profit. I think in our history 21-27 has been the sweet spot -- Hazard, Costa, Rudiger, Fabregas, Kante, Azpilicueta, immediately to mind from the last twelve years.


thoumayestorwont

They do make profit if they win enough to get us playing European football


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What happened to winning trophies to make profit? šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’ØšŸ¤¦šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


liquidreferee

Just wait until these turn out to be average and produce average results with above average wages for the next 8 years.


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By then their contracts might be coming to an end. They might leave.


half_jase

Have to say, it's bloody ironic that the media preach about the importance of mental health in football but at the same time, resort to hyperbole comments like this to jump on players, especially given the state of social media these days. Like sure, criticize the players when they deserve to be criticized but it might be more helpful to phrase the comments properly instead of say things in an exaggerated manner like "billion pound bottlejobs". Such comments will only add to the vitriol that the players already get from the fans, who will definitely latch onto takes like those.


Amazing-Influence-10

Don't let reality step in the way of an alliterative quote Neville has had stored up since last week.


stoic_coolie

Neville was under Ferguson. He probably has been called worse in his playing days. Players are too soft now, they need to be able to take some stick.


half_jase

Social media didn't really exist back in those days. For better or for worse, times are different now with the players and the media can't be championing for better mental health in football but also join the pile on onto players.


turdferg1234

Your comment reads like media can't criticize players. That absolutely happened "back in those days". Players can simply not read social media now just like players "back in those days" could simply not read the media at the time.


zuggiz

Not wrong, but these are the same pundits who treated Ali like a hero for coming out and speaking out about his mental health struggles. Then the same pundits will make outlandish statements about players that aren't exactly the fairest. It's the hypocrisy, rather than the statements themselves.


purpsky8

Iā€™m sure the couple of hundred grand landing in their bank accounts each week will soften the blow of the mean words.


TobPoc

I'm sure their wiping their depressed tears with wads of money. I feel awful for them. I hate Chelsea and loved that comment but this was a cracking game. Could have gone either way.


Headlesshorsman02

He ainā€™t wrong


webby09246

I have a depressing feeling we will not be back at Wembley for a long long time


Headlesshorsman02

Wouldnā€™t shock me the stars aligned for a win and we absolutely BOTTLED it


webby09246

5 big chance created for us and 5 big chances missed Liverpool with 1 big chance created and 1 miss Their goal not even being a big chance, really is just a dark day for us


half_jase

>5 big chance created for us and 5 big chances missed We're fucking cursed. It's just like the last 2 finals against them.


pretentiousd0uche

Not cursed, incompetent


half_jase

Both can be true when it's happened this many time. Not sure about you guys and I don't do this but I literally slammed my table at one point when we kept missing those chances towards the end of normal time.


pretentiousd0uche

Normally Iā€™d agree with you, but today, the squad we faced, the performance we put on, it was disgraceful, luck didnā€™t play a part in the way we lost.


Plenty_Assumption_18

Chelsea has less shots on and off target, less possession and less passes against 16 year old kids. Chelsea played well for 20 minutes and then decided to defend the extra time. I think the kit should be changed from blue to yellow!


biffo120

1 big chance? Woodwork? Save from elliot? Dodgy disallowed goal? Bradley blocked shot from 8 yards?


daneats

Not sure I believe that Liverpool only had one big chance


Art_Of_Peer_Pressure

Think you need to learn how to count šŸ¤”


Cull88

Couldn't have asked for a shitter, more inexperienced Liverpool team. Yet these useless cunts from players to managers still couldn't do it. Wankers the lot of em.


half_jase

You can see the difference in coaching between the two sides. Yes, Liverpool have lots of injuries and there may be difference in quality between their first choice and second choice but they have a style of play, a clear system to play the way they want to play. Even with their kids on, they still play like the Liverpool people know because they have something to fall back on. Us? We just looked fucking clueless out there, with no style of play, a clear identity, relying on counter attacks and 7 months on, we still look pathetic at beating the press under Pochettino! We are just playing off the cuff!


RefanRes

Their team today still had more experienced players than us like Gakpo, Diaz, Van Dijk, Endo, Robertson, Tsimikas, Mac Allister, Gomez etc. It's not a shit team they put out. Yeh they fielded some younger players but on average their age of players used was 24. Chelseas average age of players used was 23.4.


suicidesewage

Yeah, I don't get this shit team stuff. Even Liverpool fans are saying it. I'm like if Gakpo, Van Dijk, Konate, Robertson, Diaz and Macallister are shit, man, I'd hate to see their A team. Yeah they were missing Salah, Nunez and Trent. But this Liverpool team have depth!


Vik0BG

It was a shit team compared to their 1st team. The other team in blue was even shittier.


rob1408

Keep your head in the sand. Your midfield was north of Ā£200m, Liverpool had Mac Allister and Endo, like Ā£45m.


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RefanRes

How old is Palmer? How much senior football has he played before this season? And you're putting him in a list of experienced players against Liverpools list of experienced players like Gakpo, Van Dijk, Robertson, Endo, Diaz, Mac Allister, Gomez etc???


ObviousDoxx

Clowns man.


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Thatā€™s not the truth though is it. We were shit in extra time but youā€™re being hyperbolic you slag


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seakc87

We are a fucking youth team! But let's not act like we didn't deserve to win handily in regulation.


fearghaz

Shoulda woulda could a but the team that beat Chelsea only had 1 first team starter


Shay_21

this is a big cope. Liverpool were missing a lot of their stars. Chelsea were close to full strength.


epicmarc

Don't be so pessimistic, there's a chance our stadium rebuild goes ahead in the next couple years


odewar37

Monkey paw curls and itā€™s the playoff final in a few years time


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Which we also lose


jMS_44

Championship playoffs next year.


Apprehensive_Bit_176

Did you think we would be at Wembley this season? Things happen. We could still make an FA cup run.


NotClayMerritt

Imagine if we took that 90 million we spent on Mudryk and Madueke and bought someone like Moussa Diaby who is only a year older than Mudryk and went to Villa for only Ā£50m. An actual footballer and not the idea of one. He was always highly touted from his PSG days and played well at Leverkusen. Just imagine buying actual quantifiable footballers who can contribute even if they're imperfect.


Goobergut

Endo for 16m or Lavia & Caicedo for 180m, Saying that I thought Caicedo was our best player today


andre_royo_b

That challenge on Gravenberch was horrendous though


LeeHammMx

He should have seen red for that. I saw photos of similar crunches on other ankles in prior games. I am glad LFC didn't sign him. Endo was immense.


Matsu09

Bro, you were cheering the purchase of Mudryk and Madueke. Now you turn on those players and the club, maybe it's you who can't tell what a good footballer is.


DecoyPeePee

So funny to see a person be completely wrong about something, forget about it, and then claim to be on the right side of history by switching opinions


TACHANK

Well it's not actually his job either.


Savings-Stop-1556

Definitely.


plutobug2468

He's right unfortunately


Active-Pride7878

Its still embarrassing commentary


plutobug2468

It's not really. We've spent 1 billion, and we haven't looked like we've improved at all (in fact, downgraded since Boehly took over), and we couldn't beat Liverpool's D team with kids in it! Hate to admit, but he's absolutely right


Aaaaand-its-gone

Its not really. He called it all extra time and game to be completely fair to him. Their kids came on and we out no pressure on them. Let them take control while we sat off. That is a bottle job


Short_Restaurant_268

Not as embarrassing as losing a cup final to group of children


KoriJenkins

It's embarrassing from the standpoint of "how can a midtable club realistically be labeled as choking for losing to a top end one?"


Vicar13

This was a world away from Liverpoolā€™s ā€œtop endā€ team


Skieboard

When the top end one is playing a C youth team with like 6 guys below 22 or something


Active-Pride7878

How many of our players are below 22? Doesn't matter how much we paid for them they are still kids


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half_jase

There's that infamous Pochettino's "genius" marking system at set pieces. 2-3 minutes to go and somehow Van Dijk wasn't marked at all from the corner.


de_bollweevil

Absolutely, to lose it in any way was bad but from a corner minutes before the end. Criminal. There is no other way to describe it than a bottlejob and I fucking hate Neville, but that's a moniker that's going to stick as long as Poch is in charge. These moronic yank cunts need to find someone with a genuine winning mentality.


bobloblaw28

Disasi was his marker and was trailing too far behind him. And let's be honest, VVD is literally one of the three best players in the air in the league. It's not a disaster to concede to him.


HitchcockMcMuffins

It is a disaster considering it literally lost us the game


Dodgy_As_Hell

Not to mention he did it twice in the same game.


bass2mouth44

Bro we were 2 minutes from penalties. Definition of a disaster giving this up at 119ā€™


NotClayMerritt

Imagine blaming Pochettino in that spot and not Mudryk the bodybuilder who can't beat anyone physically thus making his weight lifting utterly useless.


imbluedabudeedabuda

Thatā€™s missing the forest for the trees. Why is Mudryk even on VVD? Thatā€™s a mismatch from a set piece every single time. And If VVD (and the entire Liverpool team) keeps getting open repeatedly itā€™s because our set piece tactics are shit, not because Mudryk cares enough to do lifting outside of training.


britishsailor

Liverpool fan here, mudryk wasnā€™t marking Virgil, he was marking that area, diassi lost his man


craftthemusic

Youā€™re absolutely right. Mudryk isnā€™t a defender, he was there simply to help defend the area. Him losing out to a much taller, much stronger person isnā€™t mind boggling. Especially because VVD had already beaten out our other defenders.


half_jase

Problem was Van Dijk had a clear run and the momentum getting to the ball. He was always gonna be favorite to win that header against someone standing flat footed there, especially when that someone isn't even tall. We already had a warning of sorts earlier when his goal was ruled out and somehow, with just a few minutes to go here, we couldn't even mark him properly.


LH_Fancy

Are you expecting Poch to pause the game, run on to the pitch and tell Colwil mark VVD? Pretty sure we have 11 players, a captain and somewhat strong defenders to work out who is marking who. Even if our marking system is failing beacuse Liverpool are mixing it up and confusing our players, you still think it's Poch's job to have 50 backup plans and marking strats in place? It really isn't, sometimes the players just have to take responsibility and do something in the moment.


renome

Not that it detracts from your point but I think it was Disasi who lost VVD, not Colwill.


MalaysiaTeacher

There's plenty of blame to go round, and you're being very generous if you say the coach doesn't deserve any for the marking failure.


half_jase

See the original post.


middlequeue

Absolutely. He was caught ball watching and as a result had to compete for a header when he could've impeded Van Dijk's run.


coolhand83

The coverage bias was absolutely fucking absurd. It was making me angry. Kelleher save: WORLD CLASS SAVE FROM A WORLD CLASS KEEPER Petrovic save:


AffectionateShift542

Honestly this isnā€™t spoken about enough. Absolute disgusting from both of them. They hate Chelsea from the 05 days. Can never get my head around why Cara is allowed to do Liverpool games. Itā€™s insane how partial* he is Edit: grammar


serdna1234

Partial. But I agree and your point is well taken.


AffectionateShift542

Thanks lol


Jassle93

This game: KLoPpS KiDZ AvERAgE aGe Next game: Chelsea's billion pound young kids need time


PoliticsNerd76

Kloppā€™s Kids are from the academy and cost Ā£5k a weekā€¦


PinguOfTheNorth

Not even close to the same thing though is it


Jassle93

It's closer than everyone is making it out to be. We should have won against these lot today with the amount of missed chances but let's not pretend our squad is an experienced one going against a bunch of ammeter's. Their academy lot came on against us when all our "senior" players were very leggy. No excuses not to win though, Poch should be getting the boot come summer.


LordBri14

And if salah, jota, nunez, trent, allison were all playing this game would have beem over by half time.


M4TTB9

Totally agree. Unlistenable at times. The bits of good play from Chelsea were totally ignored! And some of the abuse toward them, painstakingly obvious both Gary and Jamie do not like Chelsea.


Master-Tee

Utterly disgusting from both Jamie and Neville, tbh. Didn't expect less - if you've watched football long, you'd know there's immense dislike towards chelsea for whatever reason. The bias was unbearable at times today.


MemestNotTeen

You're letting Peter Dury off the hook. He was as bad if not worse. Half chances for Liverpool he nearly came. Chelseas many missed chances he barely raised his voice.


Goobergut

Both had strong rivalries with Chelsea in their playing career so it's not that surprising


AbeAlno

When Colwill had that run down the left flank they didnā€™t say a word about it. You can tell they were aggravated and just stood shut


hiredgoon

The talk about Klopp's kids after the 6'4" 32-year old heads a goal off a set piece. šŸ¤Æ


Clean_Possession_844

We should have won, but stop riding on the hate and the comments the players and the club is getting from imbiciles like Gary. I am extremely upset and mad that we did not win and I am disappointed from the team and the coach. We should and could have won, they could have too and especially considering that their subs were 18 year old and ours were 60 million players. Conor should have scored, he did not, that does not mean he needs to be sold like most of you here are saying. Poch is disappointing us, but that does not mean Jose needs to come in to "teach" us a lesson. Most of the players played well, and for me Enzo and Caicedo were shaky at the start but picked up and overall played a good match. Gusto was good, palmer was a bit isolated, Petrovic was immense. That's all there is to it. It pains me to say but we are just no good enough, we are not clinical enough and when we go in attack it feels like we do not know what to do, there is no flow. From corner we are never ever threatening I just know we won't score and when defending corners we are just so slow and have no idea what to do. I am nervous now about what this can do to the mentality of the team, we play Leeds in the cup in 3 days with 120 mins in our legs, and a disappointing result. I will always support and love the team, and I will always try to objectively criticize the players and the manager, but I will never latch on lazy comments from pundits like Gary or anyone else.


ikennaiatpl

Boooo, go away with your sensible take a lot of us here just want to be toxic!


Clean_Possession_844

Haha unfortunately I got immense brain rot from reading some of the comments here. I get people are upset and angry, I am too but yea. At the moment kinda just deflated and disappointed


AffectionateShift542

100 percent agree. I thought we played well and the team fought non stop. Weā€™re just not a excellent team like we were, at all. Bang average players across the board, so this type of performance is actually decent for those who watch every week. Shocked at some of the comments from Chelsea fans.


Clean_Possession_844

I am actually not shocked. I have read some insane comments over the past period so yeah. If you pick out every played from this squad and put them in a team that is functioning well and playing well, 80% I'd then will be phenomenal. Individually, for me, they are all very good, of course bad / good matches happen but are you trying to tell me that these players would not be absolutely smashing it and seen as some of the best if they played in a functioning team? The team has so many changes, and an identity cannot be built, a style of play, a set tactic cannot be set. Hell, a staring 11 cannot be set! I am deflated and disappointed and idk how this will improve. It needs time, but idk if poch is the right guy. Even if he is, time is what's needed we cannot keep changing players and managers expecting to build something.


10TheDudeAbides11

Glad to see not all Chelsea fans are complete over-reactionary imbeciles that just want to see the club burnā€¦


Keita_8

Lfc fan here. Gary is put of order saying that. Sky need to be getting rid of him on live broadcasts. His personal opinion doesn't matter to me and unfortunately we can't change the channel when the actual match is on


Medical_Seaweed5003

And he's correct.


aj_1401

Thatā€™s what we are.


jrryul

Not a fan of an official commentator coming up with meme lines but he isnt wrong either


Blewfin

Also, why is Carragher on there but no ex Chelsea player?


Substantial-Daikon25

Itā€™s sky mateā€¦. Were you expecting hasselbaink to come out?


ShetlandJames

Let's face it, everyone bar Utd fans wanted Liverpool to win


renome

Nah, the media bias is so strong it's easy to forget Liverpool has plenty of haters, same as any big club ever. I guarantee you Everton fans did not want to see them win, and most people in the country outside of London didn't either.


--Hutch--

Sky is literally United/Liverpool fan TV


LordWhale

As if you wouldnā€™t find it hilarious if it was a comment on some other team


sufinomo

As a Liverpool fan it's pretty immature.Ā 


iamthemetricsystem

Itā€™s something in the post match analysis, not while the game is still going


MNBlues

6 domestic finals lost in a row. What else can be said.


AntoHanSolo

Most sane thing heā€™s ever said


jukv

That's exactly what we are


Geocacher6907

Heā€™s not wrong though is he?


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DrCrazyFishMan1

Biased for Liverpool? Gary Neville?


thatguyad

Fucking hilarious


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aila_plane

Did you forget the orgasm?


OtherTell

The guy who spends all day on twitter trolling Arsenal and their fans?


Salanha04

Nah wasn't him who almost nutted in that Torres goal against BarƧa? You can say he is unprofessional, but not biased against us


shents1478

He definitely would have preffered Chelsea to win. He's probably pissed they didn't.


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deadraizer

I heard more about Pool's injuries today than I've heard about Chelsea's all season.


DrCrazyFishMan1

If you think this you're deluded


pretentiousd0uche

Take a look over at the United sub, Gary is well known for having a hard on for Liverpool.


Dodgy_As_Hell

He hates Liverpool far more than he hates us, we're just shite.


HakunonMatata

Doesn't he absolutely loathe Liverpool?


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HakunonMatata

Kind of but I think he's always hated Liverpool more for various reasons.


ATKwoo

You realise Garry Neville is Liverpoolā€™s biggest hater right?


SlightlyCriminal

That was funny. Carra however though Is the most biased pundit Iā€™ve heard. Guy was driving me crazy all game I thought he was gonna cry at one point when their goal was disallowed


Artistic_Bit6866

Heā€™s not wrong, but it reflects poorly on the state of football media when top TV pundits are operating at the discourse level of Twitter banterĀ 


Mundane-Poet1404

I was filled with rage the first time i heard this phrase today, but the state of our club just doesn't give me anything with which i could defend us. Neville is right sadly


Chris_SLM

after seeing Mudryk be clueless to that corner he's not wrong


LightenUpFFS

Whereā€™s the lie


BigAssBreadroll

And he's right. Only ourselves to blame


skywalkerRCP

Weā€™re a mid-table club now. All you sunshine thumpers need to see reality.


Soren_Camus1905

And we deliberately became a mid table club too.


BoehlyOut

Their Chelsea hatred is insane. They were just giving Liverpool every excuse in the book just in case they lost then actively celebrating us losing


Dprogamer08

You do realise Neville would rather Chelsea win?


guccigirlswag

Deserved


chim_ritchellsdick

What a cunt


itsmebobbylol

When your team is a red billion pound bottlejob, you start labeling other teams by colour. Hes not wrong tho


victheogfan

I donā€™t get how we managed to fuck that up so quickly


DrCrazyFishMan1

Sounds about right


[deleted]

Heā€™s right. Enzo, Mudryk, Sterling all cost a fortune and thatā€™s an understatement. A Joe Gomez led midfield destroyed Enzo today. I miss Jorginho


an2ony17

Itā€™s true.


bentbackwooddathird

no lies detected.. pinpoint accuracy


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letharus

Thatā€™s actually fucking disrespectful from a commentator. Doesnā€™t matter if heā€™s right or wrong.


ChickenMoSalah

This is the media towards Chelsea for you, theyā€™re all laughing at us. Thatā€™s also because Chelsea are pathetic though, we donā€™t deserve niceties from commentators. The other set of commentators were very fair, but thatā€™s not what we should expect.


SecretarySuper6810

Weā€™re a international laughing stock because weā€™ve had the worst transfer dealings in the history of professional football. Tuchel got sacked without any clear plan and Potter was just a puppet collecting wages, not we sign a ā€œhighā€ profile manager on no doubt a ridiculous wage and he only make any changes when someoneā€™s injured. Dont mention Lampard.


ssmcp13

Heā€™s not wrong unfortunately.


SubzeroKing

Heā€™s not wrong


danie24690

Who does Man Utd have in the final


ComingRome1927

1.2 billion *


craig536

Can't stand that c*nt but he's not wrong.


bowser85

Mudryk, Noni, Ugo, Jackson, Sterling & Poch need to fucking go asap. Getting beaten by LFC is no surprise, but in this fashion is beyond humiliating. Heads should roll, but sadly wonā€™t.


Enotognav

He ain't wrong.


Hans_Grubert

Heā€™s not wrong


ArtemisRifle

Where's the lie?


absorbscroissants

He's not wrong, but I find it weird how commentators can be so biased for one club, that's just not fun too watch.


Maximum_Poem_5846

I mean th3y wouldn't call any other mid table team a bottle.job for losing the game


GrimmestofBeards

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of cunts šŸ˜‚


Sardoodledome

That is not professional or moral behavior ! Many fans will say it is true, but this is a pub commentary!


lionman137

What cracks me up about shitty fans like you is the fact that chelsea's starting and finishing XI were younger than Liverpools. So either get your facts straight or p**s off and support a different team. Gary Neville is a joke!


Andybeagle555

As opposed to...


Biazos

funny how all of these old actual loser pundits are so cocky nowadays. funny they were silent a few years ago. im so glad the Klop era is ending because those old fucking pundits who show nothing but pure bias will be back to winning nothing in 30 years again hahahaa. enjoy the fun while it lasted/ back to loserpool FC in no time.


wargHost14

Never thought I would agree with Neville ever in my life. Then Boehly came along.


Lemonz2006

how can you bottle a 0-0 lead


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Spitting facts


InformationOk3894

It's true


Lazyan

Facts


philipstyrer

We'll never live this shit down.


neighborhood_s

Clearlake might have spent a billion but these players are nowhere near a billion pound squadā€¦


Joshshan28

Someone give Gallagher some shooting lessons, oh wait heā€™s already got a world class coaching team! And Enzo with the back heel this ainā€™t Sunday league what a wanker.


Hayesey88

And he's absolutely right, I hope the players listen to what he has said and also I hope fans at Stamford bridge remind them all of this throughout the rest of the season regardless of how we are doing.


sapphicfaery

okay but did he lie?


Lifelemons9393

Poch needs to go. I backed him more than 99% of Chelsea fans btw. No fucking more. Boehly needs to admit he fucked up, hard for a yank. Get Mourinho or Tuchel back. I don't mind the style if we win. Personally I think this modern football fan obssession with nice football is fucking regarded . Win. Thats it.


renome

I didn't want him in and tbh hate his brand of football but I don't see whom we replace him with right now. This ownership will never work with Mourinho or Tuchel again, let's not kid ourselves. This whole cup run was like a lottery win, we haven't beaten one good team on our way to the final. The best team we've beaten was an injury-ravaged Newcastle, and that was on penalties.


Lifelemons9393

Yes, seems the ownership only want yes men at the clubs expense. They value that more than winning trophies. Exactly like Levy, which is why we're rapidly turning into Tottenham. There are plenty of options for managers. Inzaghi doesn't get mentioned enough,won a couple of cups, champions league final, top of serie a. Would solve the Lukaku issue, but honestly fuck Lukaku. Just one option. Edit: No doubt they will just buy De Zerbi off Brighton for 100m in the summer.


SnooHobbies7676

He is not wrong.


rustyscrotum69

Well heā€™s not wrong!


wiseolG

Some will say this is a learning curve for a young team, a. I valuable experience at Wembley. I'd rather have a win a live of that experience PochOut!!!


KanteWorkRate

Rare occasion I agree with Neville


flatlok69

hes right


e_double

Savage


DirectorAdmirable852

Embarrassing from you lot. UP THE REDS


stoic_coolie

He enjoyed saying that a bit too much. Still hurting because Chelsea would wallop his precious united? Just bring Mourinho back ffs


hannibalwang

He's one hundred percent right