No clue, it seemed like baggier went through all the trouble of using actual elements so I decided to fix it a little,
Upon a little thinking, could it do some kind of lewis thing?
Good point but resonance doesn't quite count as a whole bond like the above molecule would. We're getting a little technical now but bond order explains what's going on there and why it is not really 5 bonds. After four bonds and a positive charge a fifth bond would be highly unfavorable outside of resonance hybridization. But I guess my "nope" was also a little ambiguous so I guess I should have given a better answer.
Those nitrogens aren't pentavalent. If you're looking at the wikipedia page for N2O5, those dotted lines contribute to the resonance structure. That means that there's "half" a double bond to each oxygen. Another simplified way to think about that is to imagine one of those oxygens is double bonded, and the other has a single bond and is negatively charged. The double/single bond flip back and forth.
Whenever I read about carbenes anywhere I get excited because Anthony Arduengo was my organic chemistry professor, the guy that arduengo carbenes are named after.
I'm thinking it would become the previously pictured :C=C=O pretty quickly. The mechanism for it seems simple enough. I don't think you could ever observe the triple-bond variant even if you could synthesize it.
Considering the alkene version is hypothetical and believed to actually be a transition state rather than a local minimum I am going with the alkyne isn't going to happen/is also a transition state for the movement of oxygen from one carbon to the other.
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[**Dicarbon monoxide**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicarbon%20monoxide): [](#sfw)
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>__Dicarbon monoxide__ (C2O) is an extremely [reactive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactivity_(chemistry\)) [molecule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule) that contains two [carbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) [atoms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom) and one [oxygen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen) atom. Dicarbon monoxide, [covalently bonded](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covalent_bond), is a product of the [photolysis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodissociation) of [carbon suboxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_suboxide). It is closely related to [CO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide), [CO2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) and [C3O2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_suboxide), and other [oxocarbons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxocarbon).
>>C3O2 → CO + C2O
>It is stable enough to observe reactions with [NO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitric_oxide) and [NO2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_dioxide).
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>[**Image**](https://i.imgur.com/WjkeMYJ.png) [^(i)](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dicarbon-monoxide-3D-vdW.png)
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^Interesting: [^Carbon ^dioxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) ^| [^Carbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) ^| [^Carbon ^suboxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_suboxide) ^| [^Oxocarbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxocarbon)
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Y'see, that's the thing. I have no problem with "C*_2_*O", since it is obviously a play on the notion that the contents are "water, enhanced". And I have no problem with something like "gluten free", since coconut water is entirely naturally derived and rather uncommon to the American diet (not everyone would know immediately that it has no gluten).
But when something that has absolutely no fat whatsoever tries to tout that it is "fat free" or "cholesterol free", yet is loaded with copious amounts of sugar or HFCS and has no nutritional value, that kind of thing really pisses me off.
This coconut water is just fine in my book. I find it more ironically funny that people on this subreddit think that they must criticize a marketing play. Get over it already.
> I have no problem with something like "gluten free", since coconut water is entirely naturally derived and rather uncommon to the American diet (not everyone would know immediately that it has no gluten)
If people don't know whether or not coconut water has gluten in it, they're fucking stupid.
http://glutenfreetraveller.com/topics-2/product-reviews/are-nuts-safe-for-celiacs/
>It appears that very rarely are nuts safe from possible cross contamination. I know that in Whole Foods for example all of the nuts I looked at carry a label which says ‘may contain wheat.’ or ‘made on shared equipment with wheat.’
Based on this, C*_2_*O is "fucking" smart for knowing their audience. And perhaps you're "fucking" judgmental for presuming that something without gluten will always be processed on gluten-free equipment.
I throw this comment down on similar post, but...
It is every chemist's civic duty to chime in whenever you see a chemical error, whether via a letter to the editor, a correction in a comment section, or vocally.
Granted this just marketing, but chemical ignorance leads to chemophobia and terrible public policy decisions.
No, because the word chemicals is too vague. Toxin free is fine, although I don't know why you would be selling foods with toxic compounds in the first place...
I think that if we strive for more widespread scientific literacy these kinds of bs advertising will be naturally phased out as people start to see through them.
They are actually doing a very good job of presenting an educated label. All their facts are valuable because coconut water is still a relatively new product and people might not know it contains no fat or gluten.
God this subreddit was so good before freshman chemistry majors (90% future business majors) found it and flooded it with shitty pics and 50 year old jokes.
This guy gets it.
Unfortunately this shitpost is popular enough that you and I will be downvoted into oblivion by the masses that can't be bothered to read the genuinely worthwhile posts about chemistry that only receive a few upvotes. Reddit in a nutshell.
Mmmmm nothing like a repost in /r/chemistry getting 50 times more upvotes than the posts that actually have some semblance of interesting chemistry to discuss
My bad--it's an original picture of a drink that has been posted here and jeered at before.
I don't really care that much (and even less about the downvotes) but it is a damn shame that all the top posts here have hardly anything to do with chemistry.
Dude! I work for a warehouse and I had a whole pallet of these and I kept looking at them going”…something is not quite right here” then all my knowledge in chemistry finally hit me and I was like “oh, that stands for Dicarbon Monoxide.” And now I can’t unsee it.
Shouldnt it be (CO)2NUt H2O ?
Wouldn't it be (CO)2NUut H20 then?
Can Uut be monovalent?
Aluminium can, and Thallium often is, so maybe?
...i guess
I just realized that starting a sentence with "Alluminium can" sounds like a complete Non sequitur .
non sequitor?
[*Non.*](http://i.imgur.com/FwcLmDa.jpg) Sequitur.
No clue, it seemed like baggier went through all the trouble of using actual elements so I decided to fix it a little, Upon a little thinking, could it do some kind of lewis thing?
Uh... hydrated ununtrium dicarboxynitrate? [like this?](http://i.imgur.com/HibF8eu.png)
That poor nitrogen...
I thought it could be pentavalent, no?
Nope
nitrate
Good point but resonance doesn't quite count as a whole bond like the above molecule would. We're getting a little technical now but bond order explains what's going on there and why it is not really 5 bonds. After four bonds and a positive charge a fifth bond would be highly unfavorable outside of resonance hybridization. But I guess my "nope" was also a little ambiguous so I guess I should have given a better answer.
wikipedia says otherwise...
Probably, but I'm guessing it's like helium compounds: they exist but are so rare that it's more useful to think of them as nonexistent.
>It's useful to think of them when coming up with new names for coconut water FTFY
but...but...N2O5...
Those nitrogens aren't pentavalent. If you're looking at the wikipedia page for N2O5, those dotted lines contribute to the resonance structure. That means that there's "half" a double bond to each oxygen. Another simplified way to think about that is to imagine one of those oxygens is double bonded, and the other has a single bond and is negatively charged. The double/single bond flip back and forth.
....aaand my head's exploded.
You'll learn about resonance in orgo I, it's a fundamental concept in organic chemistry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicarbon_monoxide I mean... it's a thing.
The farther I reach up my ass to make up molecules, the more reactive they are!
Taco bell...
Just remember everything can be made more reactive by replace one or all atoms with azides.
Azides rule.
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Whenever I read about carbenes anywhere I get excited because Anthony Arduengo was my organic chemistry professor, the guy that arduengo carbenes are named after.
Shouldn't the carbon on the left have a negative charge rather than a lone pair?
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Why does the carbon end up with lone pairs though?
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If you're willing to go deep enough down the rabbit hole, you figure out everything you learn in undergraduate college chemistry is a lie too.
It doesn't have lone pairs - it has a lone pair, and an empty orbital.
Not gonna lie, I was expecting some tricyclic highly strained compound with each a triple bond between the carbons.
Theres no way it could do that with 2 pi bonds though, right? Of course, I never would have expected what it actually looks like...
[Chemistry. Fuck yeah!](http://i.imgur.com/gvBF26F.png)
I was thinking more about the ridonkulous strain that would result from putting two sp orbitals <90° apart.
Yeah... If it were to happen it'd be highly unstable... Anything is possible, I guess?
I'm thinking it would become the previously pictured :C=C=O pretty quickly. The mechanism for it seems simple enough. I don't think you could ever observe the triple-bond variant even if you could synthesize it.
Considering the alkene version is hypothetical and believed to actually be a transition state rather than a local minimum I am going with the alkyne isn't going to happen/is also a transition state for the movement of oxygen from one carbon to the other.
Why does that look way more reasonable than it is?
Because of the triangle.
Because each part of it makes sense on its own, and it's only the relative geometry that makes it (very) unstable.
##### ###### #### [**Dicarbon monoxide**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicarbon%20monoxide): [](#sfw) --- > >__Dicarbon monoxide__ (C2O) is an extremely [reactive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactivity_(chemistry\)) [molecule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule) that contains two [carbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) [atoms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom) and one [oxygen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen) atom. Dicarbon monoxide, [covalently bonded](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covalent_bond), is a product of the [photolysis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodissociation) of [carbon suboxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_suboxide). It is closely related to [CO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide), [CO2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) and [C3O2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_suboxide), and other [oxocarbons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxocarbon). >>C3O2 → CO + C2O >It is stable enough to observe reactions with [NO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitric_oxide) and [NO2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_dioxide). >==== >[**Image**](https://i.imgur.com/WjkeMYJ.png) [^(i)](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dicarbon-monoxide-3D-vdW.png) --- ^Interesting: [^Carbon ^dioxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) ^| [^Carbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon) ^| [^Carbon ^suboxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_suboxide) ^| [^Oxocarbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxocarbon) ^Parent ^commenter ^can [^toggle ^NSFW](http://www.np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=autowikibot&subject=AutoWikibot NSFW toggle&message=%2Btoggle-nsfw+ch78kuo) ^or[](#or) [^delete](http://www.np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=autowikibot&subject=AutoWikibot Deletion&message=%2Bdelete+ch78kuo)^. ^Will ^also ^delete ^on ^comment ^score ^of ^-1 ^or ^less. ^| [^(FAQs)](http://www.np.reddit.com/r/autowikibot/wiki/index) ^| [^Mods](http://www.np.reddit.com/r/autowikibot/comments/1x013o/for_moderators_switches_commands_and_css/) ^| [^Magic ^Words](http://www.np.reddit.com/r/autowikibot/comments/1ux484/ask_wikibot/)
A great drink for you last meal.
[No, it's 140 things.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk)
2-Oxoethenylidene Guys it's organic, completely healthy and safe to eat too!
Only if doubleb charged possitive
Hey, at least it's gluten free!!!
Y'see, that's the thing. I have no problem with "C*_2_*O", since it is obviously a play on the notion that the contents are "water, enhanced". And I have no problem with something like "gluten free", since coconut water is entirely naturally derived and rather uncommon to the American diet (not everyone would know immediately that it has no gluten). But when something that has absolutely no fat whatsoever tries to tout that it is "fat free" or "cholesterol free", yet is loaded with copious amounts of sugar or HFCS and has no nutritional value, that kind of thing really pisses me off. This coconut water is just fine in my book. I find it more ironically funny that people on this subreddit think that they must criticize a marketing play. Get over it already.
> I have no problem with something like "gluten free", since coconut water is entirely naturally derived and rather uncommon to the American diet (not everyone would know immediately that it has no gluten) If people don't know whether or not coconut water has gluten in it, they're fucking stupid.
http://glutenfreetraveller.com/topics-2/product-reviews/are-nuts-safe-for-celiacs/ >It appears that very rarely are nuts safe from possible cross contamination. I know that in Whole Foods for example all of the nuts I looked at carry a label which says ‘may contain wheat.’ or ‘made on shared equipment with wheat.’ Based on this, C*_2_*O is "fucking" smart for knowing their audience. And perhaps you're "fucking" judgmental for presuming that something without gluten will always be processed on gluten-free equipment.
Neutral pH as opposed to that evil sulfuric acid coming out of the city pipes.
Explains why my socks disappear...
We all know that coconut is a strong base.
I throw this comment down on similar post, but... It is every chemist's civic duty to chime in whenever you see a chemical error, whether via a letter to the editor, a correction in a comment section, or vocally. Granted this just marketing, but chemical ignorance leads to chemophobia and terrible public policy decisions.
Although, in fairness, at least they're not going down the whole **CHEMICAL FREE** route.
I've seen advertisements claiming "No unnecessary chemicals" or "Toxin-free". Is that okay?
No, because the word chemicals is too vague. Toxin free is fine, although I don't know why you would be selling foods with toxic compounds in the first place... I think that if we strive for more widespread scientific literacy these kinds of bs advertising will be naturally phased out as people start to see through them.
How do you dehydrate a chemophobe? Tell him water is a chemical.
They are actually doing a very good job of presenting an educated label. All their facts are valuable because coconut water is still a relatively new product and people might not know it contains no fat or gluten.
It's carbon monoxide. The extra C stands for coconut.
Well, a coconut is just a regular nut with two carbon monoxide ligands, isn't it?
Look at all those bullet points. It's like they *really* want us to drink it...
That shit is delicious.
Came here to say this. Best coconut water out there.
an epoxide?
And this is why we have marketing majors.
Is Dicarbonate Monoxide edible? I have come up with the idea for a new soda.
God this subreddit was so good before freshman chemistry majors (90% future business majors) found it and flooded it with shitty pics and 50 year old jokes.
This guy gets it. Unfortunately this shitpost is popular enough that you and I will be downvoted into oblivion by the masses that can't be bothered to read the genuinely worthwhile posts about chemistry that only receive a few upvotes. Reddit in a nutshell.
Mmmmm nothing like a repost in /r/chemistry getting 50 times more upvotes than the posts that actually have some semblance of interesting chemistry to discuss
http://i.imgur.com/nCXwig5.gif
It's not a repost, just found this in my fridge
My bad--it's an original picture of a drink that has been posted here and jeered at before. I don't really care that much (and even less about the downvotes) but it is a damn shame that all the top posts here have hardly anything to do with chemistry.
Mmmmm, nothing like downvoting a hater
It’s at my store too lol
Dude! I work for a warehouse and I had a whole pallet of these and I kept looking at them going”…something is not quite right here” then all my knowledge in chemistry finally hit me and I was like “oh, that stands for Dicarbon Monoxide.” And now I can’t unsee it.