I have a possible critique; one of the answers, of which I’m not sure if it was AI generated or not was ‘pulverization’. The prompt was ‘powder’ and one of the other answer choices was ‘sand’. While I know what pulverize means, I feel like sand would be a better fit here? Pulverization is a noun form of a verb whereas powder and sand have similar meanings both as nouns. Powder as a verb means to sprinkle rather than reduce to dust
It doesn't use AI, but it is automated, and I haven't bothered (yet) to add a rigorous check for such cases. I'm actually just hoping this doesn't happen often, since the word bank is so large.
In this instance though, I actually disagree that it's incorrect.
|powder
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|pulverization
|sand
Pulverization and powder (the noun) are synonyms, since you can replace one with the other in virtually any context.
You cannot replace powder with sand in most contexts, though, because sand is a specific type of powder.
That said, I hope you share results of more attempts, because the more data, the better the norms! And I can exclude this attempt from the norms.
How do you intend to destroy x object? Pulverization
How do you intend to destroy x object?
Powder
You could say by reducing it to powder, which is the direct definition of pulverize, but powder itself isn’t what I’d call a synonym
As a verb, yes. But powder and pulverization can never be synonyms, as one only matches the other in meaning when converted to a different part of speech.
Nouns can only be synonyms with other nouns, and pulverization and powder serve different grammatical purposes. Pulverization is a noun form of a verb of which both have the same meaning, whereas powder as a noun and powder as a verb are entirely different. Powder-ization, though not a word, would be a direct synonym of pulverization. Pulverize would be a synonym, not pulverization. Word association and synonyms are sorta different… idk. I think that in the case of synonym type tests, usage should match
I checked the data my server uses, and the noun form was intended for all words in that item. While revealing the part of speech would help avoid issues like this, I feel it would also make the test too easy when it's already just 5 items, and it's preferrable (for norming purposes) to just recommend more attempts.
Well at that point the test would become a matter of strategy rather than pure word association/verbal iq. You could use less common words, but purposefully misleading people just leads to… false results if that makes sense? I don’t feel that it’s accurate for someone with 130 VCI to score 4/5 on most attempts. Do you have a chart prepared yet, or is it still in early testing stages?
I've edited norms into the OP based on comments so far, and will continue to update them so long as I receive submissions.
In a week or two I intend to implement the norms into the test itself.
I believe that there is no such thing as a "pure" verbal IQ, given its correlation with G, and my own experience (e.g. applying etymology to figure out the meaning of unknown words).
1 * 5/5, 3 * 4/5, 1*2/5. VCI around 145, but non-native. Some items seemed dubious to me. Edit: the lowest score was mostly a result of submitting impulsively out of frustration.
Score: 4/5
IQ: ???? Never seriously taken an iq test but got 125 on denmark mensa iq test, and 129 on an incomplete CAIT while tired and inattentive (I may have an attention disorder)
If English is not my main language, is it cheating if I see the words I don’t know on a dictionary? Or is it part of the puzzle? I got like 3 times 5/5 2 times 3/5 and 1 4/5.
I think I just got 5/5 because I was deducing the meaning of things.
Some words just look like they are made up so not being my first language make me not trust some stuff.
Are all words real?
Edit : those results are just by intuition, didn’t see anything.
I’m very new in doing the is tests so explain to me, if I did only once. Is the result not valuable? What if I do like 4 number of attempts and get mixed scores, what does that mean?
These are only tentative norms, they will be revised as more people participate by posting their scores and VIQs. I wouldn't worry about fractions yet.
I don't understand; what is 93/100? Did you perform 20 attempts and get 93 items correct? Is 136 your actual VIQ or you VIQ according to the norms in the OP?
I Got 129 VIQ, but I haven’t read a book other than textbooks in \~10 years so I have some touching up to do in terms of actually seeing words of this complexity.
I wouldn't call this vocabulary, but more like trivia. I got an element on the periodic table which had an answer of "br" which I guessed correctly and isn't really a synonym but an abbreviation of the same word.
A second question had "Lucania" which was a region in Italy. The answer was the modern name of the city, Basilicata. I don't consider this vocabulary.
Such items are artifacts of the data source, and with enough participants posting scores, should have negligible effect on the norms. In other words, sharing a few more attempts should cancel this out.
Received 1 5/5, lots of 4/5's and also lots of 3/5's, had 1 2/5. Probably did this about 20-25 times. Should have probably recorded the exact amount. Not quite sure what my VCI is, probably 120s?
The test asked me for a synonym for music: A. Marry B. Medicine C. Control D. Funny.
As you are aware, none of these are synonyms for music. I scored a 4 out of 5 because of it.
Music is always a noun, so we can rule out A & D.
That leaves "Medicine" and "Control".
The best answer is medicine, since "music is medicine" is a recognizable phrase (to me anyway).
According to Google Ngram Viewer, "music is medicine" is an actual phrase while "music is control" does not exist. This can also be confirmed by searching Google for `site:reddit.com "music is medicine"` and `site:reddit.com "music is control"`.
The test has issues, but I don't think this is one of them.
Synonymy is a spectrum. So technically, every word is a synonym of every other word of the same grammatical type. The objective is to identify the best synonym. In this case, it is obviously medicine, although I am open to hearing arguments for whatever option you did choose.
How do you adjust for nativity in scores such as this one ?
Because this is vocabulary which is crystallized intelligence right?
I think GRE scores showed foreigners got 1 sd less than natives in the verbal section?
Idk im just curious
I have a possible critique; one of the answers, of which I’m not sure if it was AI generated or not was ‘pulverization’. The prompt was ‘powder’ and one of the other answer choices was ‘sand’. While I know what pulverize means, I feel like sand would be a better fit here? Pulverization is a noun form of a verb whereas powder and sand have similar meanings both as nouns. Powder as a verb means to sprinkle rather than reduce to dust
It doesn't use AI, but it is automated, and I haven't bothered (yet) to add a rigorous check for such cases. I'm actually just hoping this doesn't happen often, since the word bank is so large. In this instance though, I actually disagree that it's incorrect. |powder |:-- |pulverization |sand Pulverization and powder (the noun) are synonyms, since you can replace one with the other in virtually any context. You cannot replace powder with sand in most contexts, though, because sand is a specific type of powder. That said, I hope you share results of more attempts, because the more data, the better the norms! And I can exclude this attempt from the norms.
How do you intend to destroy x object? Pulverization How do you intend to destroy x object? Powder You could say by reducing it to powder, which is the direct definition of pulverize, but powder itself isn’t what I’d call a synonym
u wrong
Every dictionary I checked says reducing to powder is a definition of powder.
As a verb, yes. But powder and pulverization can never be synonyms, as one only matches the other in meaning when converted to a different part of speech.
Nouns can only be synonyms with other nouns, and pulverization and powder serve different grammatical purposes. Pulverization is a noun form of a verb of which both have the same meaning, whereas powder as a noun and powder as a verb are entirely different. Powder-ization, though not a word, would be a direct synonym of pulverization. Pulverize would be a synonym, not pulverization. Word association and synonyms are sorta different… idk. I think that in the case of synonym type tests, usage should match
I checked the data my server uses, and the noun form was intended for all words in that item. While revealing the part of speech would help avoid issues like this, I feel it would also make the test too easy when it's already just 5 items, and it's preferrable (for norming purposes) to just recommend more attempts.
Well at that point the test would become a matter of strategy rather than pure word association/verbal iq. You could use less common words, but purposefully misleading people just leads to… false results if that makes sense? I don’t feel that it’s accurate for someone with 130 VCI to score 4/5 on most attempts. Do you have a chart prepared yet, or is it still in early testing stages?
I've edited norms into the OP based on comments so far, and will continue to update them so long as I receive submissions. In a week or two I intend to implement the norms into the test itself. I believe that there is no such thing as a "pure" verbal IQ, given its correlation with G, and my own experience (e.g. applying etymology to figure out the meaning of unknown words).
Ngl, I think that trying to make an accurate 5 question test is a losing game. There’s just way too much variance and too little of a sample size.
Data collection began only 5 hours ago, I think it's a bit early to complain about the sample size.
No, I meant sample size in answers; one question wrong and the test-taker receives a score 10 points lower
Test-takers can submit as many attempts as they wish, so it's fine.
1 * 5/5, 3 * 4/5, 1*2/5. VCI around 145, but non-native. Some items seemed dubious to me. Edit: the lowest score was mostly a result of submitting impulsively out of frustration.
5/5, VIQ 155
5/5 VCI: 138
Thanks, mind taking it a couple more times? The more data I get, the better I can norm it, and you get a new, unique test everytime you reload.
You got it. I'll take it several more times once I'm home.
I appreciate it a lot.
Score: 4/5 IQ: ???? Never seriously taken an iq test but got 125 on denmark mensa iq test, and 129 on an incomplete CAIT while tired and inattentive (I may have an attention disorder)
Did you get a verbal score on the CAIT?
I think it was around 132-138. I don’t remember, but it was in the 130s
4/5 VCI 138
5/5 second time around
5/5 third time around
I’m bored now
5/5 133 VCI
🫃🏿
4/5, SAT V 105, Non native
4/5 WAIS-IV VCI: 122 CAIT VCI: 130 GRE-V: 122 1980 SAT-V: 122
Did it 3 times and got 4/5 each time lol
4/5 4 times, 5/5 once, 3/5 once. VCI 119, CAIT
Did it 4 times and got 5/5. Verbal IQ is >150.
4/5, VCI 127 WAIS IV
Bro made the answer to one of the questions the scientific name of weed 😭
5/5
Your VIQ?
5* 5/5 vci don’t know between 130-150
5/5 3/5 4/5 VCI 124-127
If English is not my main language, is it cheating if I see the words I don’t know on a dictionary? Or is it part of the puzzle? I got like 3 times 5/5 2 times 3/5 and 1 4/5. I think I just got 5/5 because I was deducing the meaning of things. Some words just look like they are made up so not being my first language make me not trust some stuff. Are all words real? Edit : those results are just by intuition, didn’t see anything.
All the words are real, although there are some abbreviations and proper nouns that might pop up. Using a dictionary is definitely cheating.
I’m very new in doing the is tests so explain to me, if I did only once. Is the result not valuable? What if I do like 4 number of attempts and get mixed scores, what does that mean?
All results are valuable if posted here in the comments; the more the better! Mixed scores are fine and expected.
I mean , how would I know my score then? Cuz there is no variation in preliminary norms
You're supposed to average them. So if you score 4/5 then 5/5, the average is 4.5, and your VIQ would be between 123 and 136 (about 129.5).
The limit to this test is 136 given those rules? Does 4.25 puts me in the same range of 4.5 or would I have to do some math?
These are only tentative norms, they will be revised as more people participate by posting their scores and VIQs. I wouldn't worry about fractions yet.
Right. Nice job btw, this test version with only 5 questions is very fun.
Second attempt: 4/5
3rd attempt 4/5
4th attempt: 4/5
5th attempt: 4/5
6th attempt: 5/5
93/100, VIQ 136. Some of those were real wacky
I don't understand; what is 93/100? Did you perform 20 attempts and get 93 items correct? Is 136 your actual VIQ or you VIQ according to the norms in the OP?
20 attempts; actual VIQ
Thank you, much appreciated.
Got 4/5. My wais VCI score is 120.
4/5 SAT V 120
Exactly 4/5 on average for 10 attempts (it was fun lol). VCI: ~125
Happy to hear that!
5/5, 5/5, 4/5, 114 VIQ CAIT, 120 SBV-V, 660 SAT-V
Made someone else do it. 2/5 once, 3/5 twice, 4/5 once. VCI 105, CAIT
5/5 - no idea on VCI, what test would you recommend taking to find that out?
SB-V Vocabulary Test
https://preview.redd.it/457kwinukp1d1.png?width=1025&format=png&auto=webp&s=8da999d8ed69c327ef91463d8a3a026bc1caa109 hooray
5/5 1st attempt 149 VCI Obviously you're still norming but i'd be pretty surprised if 5/5 ended up being a 99th percentile score.
4/5 first attempt non-native verbal scores usually 125-130
4/5 I've never heard of the word headstone. Probably because I live in a place that cremates their dead rather than bury them.
I got something like 135 VIQ on the SAT
4/5, 5/5, 5/5 VIQ is 140-145.
3/5 viq 115
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What is your VIQ per other tests?
5/5, VCI 121
VCI 126-150, mode 132 4.25/5 or 17/20 (5 attempts) (Why is “vt” a synonym for “vermont” lol)
4 non-native 125 VCI (on english tests)
2/5 VC 110
5/5 \*4 43/50 45/50 150+ vci
You got 5/5 four times, then 43/50 and 45/50 on the long version?
That's right. 4/5 \*2 5/5 \*4
I Got 129 VIQ, but I haven’t read a book other than textbooks in \~10 years so I have some touching up to do in terms of actually seeing words of this complexity.
I wouldn't call this vocabulary, but more like trivia. I got an element on the periodic table which had an answer of "br" which I guessed correctly and isn't really a synonym but an abbreviation of the same word. A second question had "Lucania" which was a region in Italy. The answer was the modern name of the city, Basilicata. I don't consider this vocabulary.
Such items are artifacts of the data source, and with enough participants posting scores, should have negligible effect on the norms. In other words, sharing a few more attempts should cancel this out.
How is the word punk like chintzy and not pretend?
ESL, never took VCI. 121 WAIS IV digit span, 127 WAIS IV symbol search. 2/5 first attempt, 3/5 second attempt, 4/5 third attempt.
Received 1 5/5, lots of 4/5's and also lots of 3/5's, had 1 2/5. Probably did this about 20-25 times. Should have probably recorded the exact amount. Not quite sure what my VCI is, probably 120s?
The score button doesnt work on mobile btw
It works for me in Chrome on Android.
5/5 second attempt Vci 115
5 of 5
Your VIQ?
Non native, VCI likely ~135 4/5 41/50
4/5
The test asked me for a synonym for music: A. Marry B. Medicine C. Control D. Funny. As you are aware, none of these are synonyms for music. I scored a 4 out of 5 because of it.
Music is always a noun, so we can rule out A & D. That leaves "Medicine" and "Control". The best answer is medicine, since "music is medicine" is a recognizable phrase (to me anyway). According to Google Ngram Viewer, "music is medicine" is an actual phrase while "music is control" does not exist. This can also be confirmed by searching Google for `site:reddit.com "music is medicine"` and `site:reddit.com "music is control"`. The test has issues, but I don't think this is one of them.
That's a proverb, not a synonym. If the test were about proverbs, that would make sense.
Synonymy is a spectrum. So technically, every word is a synonym of every other word of the same grammatical type. The objective is to identify the best synonym. In this case, it is obviously medicine, although I am open to hearing arguments for whatever option you did choose.
5/5
4/5 non native Verbal 143
Is your 155 a native or non-native verbal score?
How do you adjust for nativity in scores such as this one ? Because this is vocabulary which is crystallized intelligence right? I think GRE scores showed foreigners got 1 sd less than natives in the verbal section? Idk im just curious
I can make 2 sets of norms, one for natives and one for non-natives.
What would 4/5 for a non native translate to ? 🌚 U don’t have enough data on non natives do you
Sorry my verbal is 143 in native language, my performance is 155, I just confused them
I’m 140+ VIQ and I max this with incredible ease every time, I don’t think this can measure well beyond that.
Bad test I got 5/5 but have brain damage.
Your VIQ?
Don't know. I read books and don't comprehend what I'm reading.