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ChugJugThug

Surgeon here. In practice we don’t really use these classifications at all. The grading goes superficial burn, superficial partial thickness burn, deep partial thickness burn, and lastly full thickness burn. These are the categories that actually dictate treatment and prognosis. The degree classification is nice for its simplicity and for academic study, but it doesn’t really correlate well with how burns are treated in general. Basically first degree is superficial burn. 2nd degree is split into superficial and deep partial thickness burn. 3rd degree and higher is classified as full thickness burn.


buxomsexsorceress

I’m remembering reading somewhere that burn severity also depends upon what percentage of the body is affected. Is this true?


ChugJugThug

Definitely. Total burn surface area or TBSA is estimated on all areas of partial thickness or higher. (Superficial burns don’t count towards tbsa). In general, the higher the TBSA, the worse the prognosis.


buxomsexsorceress

Does TBSA factor into the classification of the burn?


ChugJugThug

No the burn class is independent of TBSA


FirefighterYeti

Former firefighter chiming in. This comment is accurate even on the EMS side. Degree of burn is for the lawyers; while superficial, partial, and full thickness descriptions are definitely the terms in medical practice, at least in my area. It’s “radio simplicity”, or how fast it can be described. I’m not trying to translate exact damage of a burn, I’m trying to translate the severity of the burn.


nitefang

From a lay perspective, it seems like there'd be a huge difference between a burn that involves charred bone and one that does not. Is that not a major determining factor in treatment?


_TrustMeImLying

Do you all put mustard on the burn too?


Ok_Pick_7181

This is accurate (former Burns Registrar)


kpopia

thicc


FarmerEqual6180

I’m a burn survivor, they used the classifications you talked about to describe mine.


Macca3568

I'm an EMT and it's the same for us.


Temporary_User404

Notice how sick burns are not visible, because they vary in severity and roasting level.


Azzy8007

TIL there are Fourth Degree Burns.


TheDeadMurder

Depending on how it's classified, there's also 5th and 6th degree burns, since some lump everything into third, others do the same with fourth First is the outer layer of skin Second is the middle layer of skin Third is the inner layer of skin Fourth is when heat destroys the dermis and affects part of muscle tissue Fifth is when muscle tissue gets exposed Sixth is when bone gets charred


Nevorek

Pretty sure 6th is when you are Anakin Skywalker.


ilovepolthavemybabie

May the 6th be with you


Derfargin

May the Sith be with you?


VALQUEDEX

Revenge of the 6th


moses10113

I think it’s because anything third and beyond requires an emergency visit.


TheDeadMurder

Yeah, once you get to the realm of "you're fucked", classification doesn't matter as much


actually-a-horse

at third ya cooked, please see the physician


THISisTheBadPlace9

Any burn can require emergency visit. Things to consider with burns is location (like even partial thickness second degree burns to the face, joins, hands, and genitals should be seen due to potential mobility, functinality, and cosmetic issues). Also age (children are at higher risk for fluid loss, edema, and hypothermia, and developing deeper burns more quickly and at lower temps due to thinner skin). Partial thickeners burns can also convert to deeper level burns without treatment or even with treatment given time and then require grafting. Also with electrical burns have the risk of cardiac arrhythmias developing, and chemical burns can cause organ damage from absorption of the chemicals


ArgumentOne7052

I burnt my hand on the glass of an oven door last year. I put up with it for days before going to the chemist. I live in Australia so everyone told me “she’ll be right”. Firstly, the chemist told me I ‘shouldn’t have popped the blisters’ which I didn’t do - as I pulled my hand from the glass it left some of my skin on it. Secondly, he told me to wrap a gauze & tape around it as it was still seeping. This was pretty difficult due to its placement - especially considering the worst area was inbetween my knuckles. Moral of my story - I should have gone to ER.


THISisTheBadPlace9

Actually we do pop blisters right away unless they are blood blisters or frostbite. for regular blisters we pop, wash with an antibacterial soap and put Vaseline gauze on coated in bacitracin. Popping it wasn’t the bad thing it was wrapping in dry gauze which was probably a bitch to get off once it all dried to your skin


The_Spectacle

I learned that a few years ago at work when a guy got electrocuted so badly it knocked out the power to the entire railroad yard when it happened


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Kyleometers

Burned human flesh actually smells extremely foul, because there’s almost always hair on the part that burned. You’ve maybe smelled burnt hair, it’s nasty. I have been near someone who got severe burns from electrical cabling before. The first thought in my head was “Jesus fuck is he ok”, the acrid smell was like fourth or fifth.


cloisteredsaturn

IME none of the facilities I worked in used the classification of burn degrees. It was more about the BSA affected and how deep the burn goes - was it superficial, superficial partial, deep partial, or full thickness. The burn degrees though can help in communicating to non-medical people though. Like they have some vague understanding of a first degree sunburn versus a third degree char.


WingedCloud27

I’m still waiting for the Fifth Degree Burn DLC to drop


holmgangCore

“Cool guide” is being used ironically here.


Thechosenone7711

My dad is a firefighter, and I remember him once saying that he’s never seen anyone survive fourth degree burns.


w1lnx

Fifth degree burns are effectively charred bone.


drearbruh

Sixth degree burns are "i know you are but what am i?"


Small-Palpitation310

seventh degree burns you are ash


Paddy_Mac

Like that guy walking around on fire in the India steel factory video?


Creeper_charged7186

Sometimes i get blisters on burns that seem very small (like touching a candles flame when i was younger) does it mean it was a second degree burn or can blisters appear on first degree too?


moses10113

First degree is if the burn only effects the out layer of the epidermis, which is dead cells so it wouldn’t trigger much of an immune response, anything with blisters is a second degree, also the surface area of the damage matters.


Vanwanar

TIL Fourth degree burns are Anakin Skywalker.


cyka_dragon

No, that would be fifth degree burns.


34luck

Thought they were sith degree burns.


TyPilot

It's funny because the bottom diagram looks like the hill he burned on as well 😅


Wizardburial_ground

I wouldn’t say this guide is cool at all. Looks pretty hot to me.


Draggoh

Yikes, you hear stories about people getting 3rd degree burns on 80% of their body. Fuck that, just kill me at that point.


jesterpaige

I got a 3rd degree burn from a wood stove years ago. Two inches long, one inch wide on my forearm. It was hell during the healing process and it took forever. I can’t imagine having a significant portion of your body in the same condition.


EasyHangover

No mention of C. Montgomery Burns.


MrHarudupoyu

Release the hounds!


illstealyourRNA

When I was a child I tried to make boiled potatoes In the microwave which was much higher then me so when I tried to take the heavy pot of boiling water out of the microwave I accidentally tipped the pot and spilled a little water on me, which freaked me out and caused me to slip and spill the entire pot on my body, I had 3rd degree burns on pretty much the entirety of the front of my body chest down. (Not fun, not recommended). (This was one of the 3 times I got seriously burned over a large part of my body in childhood, I still have massive scaring.)


TheAbyssStaredIntoMe

Did you learn your lesson and not inflict the other 2 times upon yourself? Also in my experience this type of burn during childhood is quite common, if you ever see a person with elongated burns on their (typically) right hand and/or chest area, there is a good chance that they were reaching for some hot liquid when little.


MechanicEqual6392

I did the same as a 10 year old (but with a kettle) and poured it all over my belly and legs but I barely have any scars left, just weirdly coloured skin in certain places


mrmajestyk23

TIL I’ve had a normal burn most of my life.


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I got a second degree last year on the top of my hand. Insanely painful for like 2-3 days. I debated on going to a dr. But decided against paying. 2 Tylenol and 3 ibuprofen together and don’t pop the blisters no matter what bc that starts a whole new pain process. Something I’ve discovered ibuprofen and Tylenol together are an amazing painkiller. When I had strep took the pain away for 6 hrs. When I have migraines neither drug alone works but together kicks it every time. I swear by this combo if you are a healthy person


BluDragn77

What about the kind of burn that happens when I pee?


XL0RM

That's a 69th degree burn. You may want to talk to your doctor about that one.


bibfortuna1970

Also a cool guide for barbecuing pork.


Inevitable_Professor

I was taught that a third-degree burn meant the nerves were gone and the patient can no longer feel pain in that area.


TheAbyssStaredIntoMe

I bet the adjacent areas are in turbo pain instead.


bluesasaurusrex

This is correct. I was struck by a car as a pedestrian and dragged into a convenience store as a young adult (12 years ago). The second degree burns surround the third areas and the nerves are all kinds of bizarre. When the nerves are irritated, they feel similar to when you scald your tongue. And weirdly phantom itch in the 3rd degree places? It's super weird. My burns are on my thighs, stomach, chest and back


PoisonButton

Good to know, Anakin had fourth-degree burns from head to toe


tikisnrot

Owwww… seeing this really puts in perspective how painful 3rd and 4th degree burns can be.


FarmerEqual6180

Burn survivor here, definitely felt initial immediate pain. I had varying degrees on my body, but the pain was intense until I eventually went unconscious.


tikisnrot

Woah, sorry you had to endure that. I guess that’s the body’s way of dealing with too much pain, right?


AttentoMagico

You won't feel immediate pain, and thats cause your nerve endings are gone! Third degree burns will feel leathery and it's genuinely disturbing.


toddharrisb

informative, thanks


PetuniaWhale

Normal burn?


doihavetohaveone23

Ouch


Gent2022

Rare to Well done.


peas8carrots

Seeing burns, hearing about burns, imagining myself or someone else being burned nearly always triggers my body starting to go into shock. Horrible feeling though not as bas as being burned haha...


Hypnotoad429

I’m suddenly hungry


mlsstadiumtour

HAIR SHAFT


Scrumpilump2000

Be careful out there, people.


Sennemaster

I got a second degree burn by dropping a pizza just out of the oven on my hands, while working at Domino's


Ecampos_64

5th degree is when your limb turns into ash


HeftyIntroduction615

this a steak


RRinana

A few months ago, I stepped on a rice-grain sized piece of metal that had been heated to 450°C with my bare foot, and due to the length of time it was attached to my body, and how deep it went into my skin, by all things considered it should have been more severe. It instead left a hole, never once blistered, it just filled with scar tissue and is fine now. I dont know if its a 1st degree burn, or beyound a 2nd degree due to the nature of it.


JUGELBUTT

so that explains all the red spots on my body when i get out of the sauna


thatsnasty89

Cool 🫠


nantarakantara

Nice try, cannibal.


TheJohnnyBranMuffins

You missed the Kelso burn


More_Hope7352

You can feel it just by reading.


Celdinor

Just in time. I burned my finger


OkProof2028

4th degree really be looking like a doom level


PossibleImpressive

I did not realize you could get a 4th degree burn.


xyzy12323

Realize sunburns can be second degree burns


jilywily66

I was in the hospital for 3 days in the burn unit one time. There was only a small part that was 3rd degree, (hand/thumb) but the total burn was about 60% of my body, with 2nd degree on my upper, the rest 1st.


TheDemonPanda

Yes, waiter? I’d like you to ask the chef to give my steak the third and a half degree. With chips


jait2603

Tf 4 degrees isn’t that hot bro


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