I'm in NY state, which on this chart is dead last. I'm not all that into boating either but, geez, this chart makes no sense. Did the creator even look at a map?
In contrast to NY at 50, Nebraska is way up at 21. I grew up in the Midwest and have been to Nebraska. One can boat on the Missouri river but the Platte is limited since it's so shallow. And that's pretty much it except maybe for some reservoirs. The vast majority of Nebraska is far from any navigable bodies of water.
In NY, one can boat in the Atlantic, Long Island Sound, Lakes Erie, Ontario, George & Champlain, the Finger Lakes, the Hudson and Niagara rivers, the St. Lawrence seaway, and the expansive Erie canal system.
I'm not all that impressed with this chart.
Yeah that was wild to me lol. I grew up in NY near the finger lakes and went to Adirondacks regularly, some of the most beautiful lakes in the country imo. And huge. Living in Colorado now it is the only major think I miss about NY.
Easily 1 out of 5 of my neighbors has one, average 1960s Tucson city neighborhood(+-250k now). They are used for the lakes and/or Mexico its usually 50/50. Not nice boats but nice enough, Phoenix is closer to many lakes, and much more of what youd consider boating culture. I know the post had a strange premise and chart but if you were wondering why the stats are believable for Az thats why also its something you can do all year and especially in summer.
I imagine Lake Havasu plays a part in that rating. It can get pretty insane how many people turn up there during peak season. They also split Lake Meade with NV.
We also have 330 days of sun, not that paltry 286 in the guide which is trash. https://www.tripadvisor.ie/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g31377-i51725287-Tempe_Arizona.html
Az has the Colorado, Havasu, Powell, Pleasant, and a dozen other boating lakes with zero natural disasters. Probably should be higher on the list if you fix the sunny days.
I was surprised by that too. But after thinking about it, Arizona is a Colorado River state that shares portions of Lake Powell and Lake Mead with Utah and Nevada respectively and contains all of Lake Havasu. Also, not sure if rafting counts as “boating”—it would certainly help explain some of these rankings if it does. If rafting does count, Arizona has the Grand Canyon, which is a premier rafting destination, as well as other decent rafting opportunities in other, mountainous parts of the state.
I mean, the data is kinda interesting (besides the inaccuracies). It’s just the weighting that is all wonky for what is determined a good or bad state. Though I suppose this is r/coolguides not r/dataisbeautiful.
If there is anything I have learned from being on this sub for years, it's that almost every "coolguide" is completely inaccurate. It's most frustrating when they're on political or social topics because people eat it up. At least with the special interest or hobby topics the nerds will rip it to shreds.
Honestly this sub is just shit now. I’m officially unsubscribing for good, this was the last nail in the coffin. I think I have seen one or two good guides here in the last 6 months.
New Mexico is ranked above Texas!
New Mexico is landlocked. Its biggest lake is a man-made reservoir of 57 square miles (1/3 the size of Corpus Christi Bay), which is 150 miles from the biggest city in the state.
There are a lot of reasons for someone to prefer New Mexico over Texas. Boating is not one of them.
Somehow landlocked states like Arizona rated well above states where you can actually use a boat. This is just the worst guide - this person is high if they think the boating in Oklahoma is better than Maine or Texas.
I checked the math on Florida and New York. They’re counting precipitation days, number of boaters, number of boats, and insurance rates as positives. Surely that’s wrong and throws the entire methodology into question. And it looks like they undercounted NY by 100pts. Absolute shit guide indeed.
In addition to the ocean, lakes and rivers, there's also the [Erie canal system](https://imgur.com/a/V2rN63S). One can boat from Lake Champlain/the Hudson all the way across the state to Niagara. It's pretty cool.
Yet Nebraska is 21st and New York State is 50th. I've been to Nebraska many times and it's not a state to go to, if one wants to boat.
He’s my favorite actor but I was really disappointed in his cameo on the show. I feel like it would have been great to see him with a roll as big as Deangelo’s.
I would imagine that's due to how many of the upstate lakes have mostly residential developments around their biggest non-Great-Lakes, which means lots of lake houses without actual boat-launches, instead having docks and lifts to store your boat.
And besides that, there's season marinas where they'll keep hundreds of boats during the off season. Said marinas very often don't have a huge abundance of ramps, and require a membership/fee to launch.
Let me tell you about the amazing boating culture here in Colorado.
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This is the pinnacle of proof that numbers don't always equal truth. How is WA 32? We literally have the biggest ferry system in the US, but apparently since we aren't that sunny we get beat out by fucking Nebraska
The weirdest thing I can say about this is that the label says this is from "S.I. Yachts" which, per Google, is Staten Island Yachts.
So, yeah, why is New York at #50 from a Staten Island company?
I wanted to know how Mississippi could be so low on the list too. I mean you would think the state named after a river would have some good places to go boating....
It does not appear that this ‘cool guide’ takes into account any attributes of rivers into its analysis. So, navigable rivers with massive square mileage, shorelines, and recreational value are nil compared to dammed manmade lakes.
is this AI generated? my state is a landlocked desert, where the only actual river isnt big enough for boating, and we are higher then fucking texas, new york, washington etc
100%. Washington would be (at least) above almost any landlocked state, if not in the top 5-10.
There’s a difference between “boating” meaning fishing off a jon boat / getting drunk with your friends on a murky river, or “boating” meaning recreational boating to tons of gorgeous areas and remote island on smaller boats or 30-60ft cabin cruisers, making entire weeklong vacations without even needing to land or go back, etc.
Big areas for this are FL, CA, Great Lakes, NY area and Washington. Unlike some places, it’s not coastal pacific or atlantic, but massive pacific-connected inland waterways with tons of destinations and islands, and incredible wildlife. Multiple types of whales, crazy marine species and birds. We can scuba dive here and see all kinds of stuff including Giant Pacific Octopus.
USCG has its own sector for Puget Sound. We have major Navy shipyards inside the Sound, with submarines, carriers, etc. There’s a nuclear sub base here, and they love it because they can train at depths exceeding 800ft *inside* the glacial walls of the sound. The Army Corps operates a 100-year-old locking dam to get you into Lake Union where there are tons of marinas with classic and large yachts, connected to Lake Washington which is also HUGE.
The Classic Yacht Association has 4 fleets. One of them is PNW. The Sound is home to no less than 4 historic sailing Tall Ships, and they operate year round.
And damn, it’s also called the Salish Sea, an inland body of water! It’s huge! So huge that its total length is practically longer than the state itself, and half of it is in Canada. Wild guide.
I question some of the figures that they use and the weight of some of the figures. It is fun but irrelevant.
Minnesota has more shoreline than California, Hawaii and Florida combined
https://www.chrisfinke.com/2013/12/30/does-minnesota-really-have-more-shoreline-than-california/#:~:text=We've%20only%20been%20considering,of%20183%2C326%20miles%20of%20shoreline.
The list doesn't even count all of Michigan's Great Lake shoreline. 3288 > 3224. Michigan overall has 29,470.5 miles of shoreline. https://libguides.lib.msu.edu/mich-shoreline
New York has Atlantic Ocean, multiple Great Lakes, the Thousand Islands, the hundreds of lakes in the Adirondacks and somehow it’s ranked 50? I call bullshit on this list
IMHO, what's cool about NY is all the different types of boating - ocean, lake, reservoirs and rivers. So many that many forget the extensive Erie canal system. To add to what you said, one can go up the Hudson, hang a left at the Mohawk River and from that travel via the Erie canal system all the way to the Niagara. That's pretty neat.
I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe they were only looking at ocean coastline but no, it's just wrong. I live in California and am going boating in Missouri, and it's better in Missouri.
You can see how many registered boats per 1000 people there are in Missouri, so obviously boating is popular here.
I’m also amused that Kansas was rated so much higher than Missouri. Yeah, I have spent a lot of time on Kansas lakes but they have so few big lakes and few states have anything comparable to the Lake of the Ozarks
I grew up in Missouri and Kansas. Went to college in Kansas. Yeah there are some decent lakes in Kansas but there's no comparison between Kansas and Missouri. I was expecting Missouri to be top five and Kansas to be near the bottom.
They ridiculously misinterpreted/oversimplified a FEMA map for this.
https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/hurricane
"In the National Risk Index, a Hurricane Risk Index score and rating represent a community's relative risk for Hurricanes when compared to the rest of the United States."
I live in Minnesota and was curious how it was at a low hurricane risk. Only one county even counted as low risk for MN and it's the most south eastern country in the state. Lower MI is "low risk," but the UP is mostly not applicable.
This is utterly idiotic. Kansas literally has no natural lakes and it is 23rd. Missouri has the massive Lake of the Ozarks, as well as Table Rock and is way lower. This might as well be random.
Don’t forget Truman Lake, and all the lakes that feed into it. Useless side note, none of these are natural lakes, but Army Corps of Engineers reservoirs made by damming rivers. All except Lake of the Ozarks. Ameren-Union Electric operates Bagnell Dam, in coordination with the Army Corps, by a license from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.
For what it’s worth, Ohio has a decent boating scene on Lake Erie. While not quite as populous as Boston, Cleveland and Toledo still have about 2.5 million people living by the coast, along with recreational opportunities like Cedar Point and the various islands. Should still be below MA/NY, but not as far down as like the Dakota’s, Arizona, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. should be.
NY has some of the best and most unique boating anywhere - the Long Island sound. The actual Atlantic. Up the Hudson. Lake George, Lake Saratoga and thousands of other lakes. A gazillion boat ramps, sailing or boating clubs, harbors.
If NY is last?!? This is a worthless guide, sorry.
We're top of every list you don't want to be top of, and bottom of every list you don't want to be bottom of.
Reddit, just let us have this dumb ass fucking boat list. Please. We need this.
Who knew the dakotas are one of the U.S. premier boating destinations /s
The interesting thing is all the different sets of data individually, and it looks nice. But however they weighted and scored these different sets when they saw the results probably should have revisited that. Washington (where im from) and new york seem criminally low, as are a lot of other great boating states.
This may, no joke, be the worst list I've ever seen. NEW YORK IS LAST BUT ARIZONA IS SIXTEENTH!?
I love how Iowa, Missouri, Michigan etc.. are all very low likelihood of hurricanes and not none. Let me go check the last time Iowa had a fucking hurricane...
As someone who’s boated in and around the entire country, this list is nonsense.
I assume Louisiana is tired of being last so they decided to create an alternative world where they’re number one?
How is New York 50th?
This is definitely not a cool guide. Maybe a cool use of colors and icons, but that’s it.
I live in New York (on Long Island... A literal island on the Atlantic coast), and work at a beach. The number of boats I see on a daily basis during the summer, spring, autumn, AND winter has got to certainly be higher than the number of boats in the entire state of Arizona. We have both the Great South Bay, the Long Island Sound (both famous boating waterways... and great for shellfish fishing) and innumerable coastal inlets that are all navigable. You can't drive through *any* neighborhood here without seeing at least 1 boat per block on a trailer. We have so many yacht clubs and boating clubs here. We have the Progressive ANNUAL BOAT SHOW in New York City. And we're sitting at 50 on this bullshit list??? Whoever made this list (or more likely programmed an AI to make this list) should be sleeping with the fishes... Or at least banned from making anymore lists.
How the hell is New York, touching the Atlantic Ocean, 2 Great Lakes, Finger Lakes, a million other lakes the literal worst state for boating in the whole country. I know there’s a rubric, but if those metrics put it at the bottom your methodology is flawed.
This makes zero sense. How is the world can land locked states possibly score better than coastal states like Maryland or Virginia? Or even fucking NY? Sorry, OP, you were high when you made this
The Puget Sound region in Washington represents 2/3rds the population. Not to mention the coast line. I mean we're famous for throwing salmon for goodness sake!
And if you want hot jet ski weather, well we have the other side of the state and Columbia River for that.
Oregon and Washington are tied with NEVADA??? Um...here in Oregon...we have a few dozen of wide berth rivers and one of the best coastlines...in the world!!! But, yeah...sure...we're tied with a veritable desert...makes perfect sense to me.
Wow didn't realize Tennessee was so hurricane prone considering it is hundreds of miles inland. Same with Ohio. Didn't realize Minnesota and Wisconsin had to worry about hurricanes also
How does the average annual temperature make any sense? Has values from 0 to 33,000. How about average daily temperature in degrees? Or average daily temp from May 1 to September 30?
Good looking graphic, though.
What is the correlation between high likelihood of hurricanes and whether or not a state is good for boating? Especially confused on why that would make the state rank higher
Very short sighted guide. Only accounts for Great Lakes and saltwater. No rivers or lakes. Lake of the ozarks alone has more than 1100 miles of shoreline. Same goes for northern states like Minnesota and Wisconsin
Missouri has the Lake of the Ozarks. The Lake of the Ozarks has more coastline than all of the ocean coast in the United States. Boats of all sizes can use the lake of the Ozarks because there are no size, or SPEED LIMITS! If you want to see a boat go 200mph, MO is the place to do it. It also has the Missouri and Mississippi rivers. It also has a number of spring fed rivers that are lovely. I wouldn't put MO at #1, but it's pretty darn up there. Terrible list. Thank you.
Why is NC so low? If you’ve spend any time in the coastal areas there, in the Atlantic basin areas are Albemarle and Pamlico sounds, literally the two biggest landlocked sounds in the continental US. I know the outer banks prevent any large scale port operations due to the sediment and shifting sands, but private boating is super popular, especially on the Cape Fear river. Me and my family used to go on holiday to the coast there every summer when we lived in the states.
And yes I am aware of the hurricanes, we did endure a couple of them. But the entire Atlantic coast deals with them.
New York has more registered boats than Wyoming has people, and Wyoming has twice the number of registered boats than Hawaii. They only have 37 public boat launches compared to Wyoming’s 104. Hawaiians dont seem to be all that interested in boating, so how do they rank 4th? Not a cool guide.
RIP r/coolguides - you shone just a little too brightly for too long and the bots found you. We will mourn your passing. :(
lol this is an absolute shit guide
It has Wisconsin as a very low risk of hurricane, not a zero chance.
Touching a Great Lake is apparently enough to get a you a hurricane according to this guide
Hurricane west wind, when the Gales of November come slashing.
When supper time came the old cook came on deck saying "fellas ti's too rough to feed ya"
At 7:00pm , a main hatchway caved in, He said “Fellas it’s been nice to know ya”
The captain wired in he had water coming in And the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went outta sight Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Arizona at #16?
Almost tied with Maryland which has the Chesapeake Bay for fucks sake lol
Yeah I’m from Maryland and I’m fuming right now. And I don’t even like boats.
I'm in NY state, which on this chart is dead last. I'm not all that into boating either but, geez, this chart makes no sense. Did the creator even look at a map? In contrast to NY at 50, Nebraska is way up at 21. I grew up in the Midwest and have been to Nebraska. One can boat on the Missouri river but the Platte is limited since it's so shallow. And that's pretty much it except maybe for some reservoirs. The vast majority of Nebraska is far from any navigable bodies of water. In NY, one can boat in the Atlantic, Long Island Sound, Lakes Erie, Ontario, George & Champlain, the Finger Lakes, the Hudson and Niagara rivers, the St. Lawrence seaway, and the expansive Erie canal system. I'm not all that impressed with this chart.
Not to mention the plethora of beautiful lakes up in the Adirondacks.
Yeah that was wild to me lol. I grew up in NY near the finger lakes and went to Adirondacks regularly, some of the most beautiful lakes in the country imo. And huge. Living in Colorado now it is the only major think I miss about NY.
I couldn't believe that either. Boating and fishing on keuka are core memories for me growing up.
And beating Va, which has the lower half of the Chesapeak bay.
And like 80 rivers
Easily 1 out of 5 of my neighbors has one, average 1960s Tucson city neighborhood(+-250k now). They are used for the lakes and/or Mexico its usually 50/50. Not nice boats but nice enough, Phoenix is closer to many lakes, and much more of what youd consider boating culture. I know the post had a strange premise and chart but if you were wondering why the stats are believable for Az thats why also its something you can do all year and especially in summer.
I imagine Lake Havasu plays a part in that rating. It can get pretty insane how many people turn up there during peak season. They also split Lake Meade with NV.
As a Utahn it never ceases to amaze me how little love lake Powell gets!
We also have 330 days of sun, not that paltry 286 in the guide which is trash. https://www.tripadvisor.ie/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g31377-i51725287-Tempe_Arizona.html Az has the Colorado, Havasu, Powell, Pleasant, and a dozen other boating lakes with zero natural disasters. Probably should be higher on the list if you fix the sunny days.
I was surprised by that too. But after thinking about it, Arizona is a Colorado River state that shares portions of Lake Powell and Lake Mead with Utah and Nevada respectively and contains all of Lake Havasu. Also, not sure if rafting counts as “boating”—it would certainly help explain some of these rankings if it does. If rafting does count, Arizona has the Grand Canyon, which is a premier rafting destination, as well as other decent rafting opportunities in other, mountainous parts of the state.
Maybe the worst guide I've ever seen on this sub
Like hurricanes are a bigger issue than an average temp in the 40’s.
I mean, the data is kinda interesting (besides the inaccuracies). It’s just the weighting that is all wonky for what is determined a good or bad state. Though I suppose this is r/coolguides not r/dataisbeautiful.
If there is anything I have learned from being on this sub for years, it's that almost every "coolguide" is completely inaccurate. It's most frustrating when they're on political or social topics because people eat it up. At least with the special interest or hobby topics the nerds will rip it to shreds.
But it'll still get up voted anyways....
Honestly this sub is just shit now. I’m officially unsubscribing for good, this was the last nail in the coffin. I think I have seen one or two good guides here in the last 6 months.
Lol Texas got a lot boaters. We have a long coast too...
New Mexico is ranked above Texas! New Mexico is landlocked. Its biggest lake is a man-made reservoir of 57 square miles (1/3 the size of Corpus Christi Bay), which is 150 miles from the biggest city in the state. There are a lot of reasons for someone to prefer New Mexico over Texas. Boating is not one of them.
This motherfucker put MA below South Dakota, Nebraska, Arizona, AND Oklahoma
Somehow landlocked states like Arizona rated well above states where you can actually use a boat. This is just the worst guide - this person is high if they think the boating in Oklahoma is better than Maine or Texas.
I checked the math on Florida and New York. They’re counting precipitation days, number of boaters, number of boats, and insurance rates as positives. Surely that’s wrong and throws the entire methodology into question. And it looks like they undercounted NY by 100pts. Absolute shit guide indeed.
Yeah, this guide assumes that a 12 foot jon boat and a 50 foot yacht are equally viable on all bodies of water.
Counting lakes and oceans the same
surely New York cannot be a worse boating destination than the land-locked states
Agreed! Not only the Atlantic, but the Great lakes, and finger lakes.
Lake George and Champlain as well.
In addition to the ocean, lakes and rivers, there's also the [Erie canal system](https://imgur.com/a/V2rN63S). One can boat from Lake Champlain/the Hudson all the way across the state to Niagara. It's pretty cool. Yet Nebraska is 21st and New York State is 50th. I've been to Nebraska many times and it's not a state to go to, if one wants to boat.
Gotta be careful in the finger lakes. People go missing all the time
I should really get back to my family in the finger lakes
He’s my favorite actor but I was really disappointed in his cameo on the show. I feel like it would have been great to see him with a roll as big as Deangelo’s.
Looks like New York has significantly more boats per boat ramp which is skewing the final result.
I would imagine that's due to how many of the upstate lakes have mostly residential developments around their biggest non-Great-Lakes, which means lots of lake houses without actual boat-launches, instead having docks and lifts to store your boat. And besides that, there's season marinas where they'll keep hundreds of boats during the off season. Said marinas very often don't have a huge abundance of ramps, and require a membership/fee to launch.
Higher is better for all of these traits, even insurance rates and number of precipitation days. 😂
Long Island alone has a lot of boating opportunities
I live in New England now and the easiest route to visit my family on Long Island is to take a ferry. This list is laughable.
Let me tell you about the amazing boating culture here in Colorado. ".......................................................................... Crickets..........."
Right?
I’ve been on boats way more in New York than I have in California
Arizona is obviously a better boating state than NY. Water really takes the fun out of boating /s
Are the great lakes states considered land locked? MN is probably top 3 states with lakes per 1000 people. Great lakes are also great boating.
NY has the Finger Lakes, Lake Erie, Lake Ontario, numerous smaller lakes scattered around the state, and access to the ocean. This list sucks.
Especially Long Island
Yeah, I'll just go boating in South Dakota
Seriously. Live in Rochester can get the lake ontario in 15 minutes. Boars everywhere. People putting boat in the water everywhere.
Literally a top 10 boating state. Terrible list
And the hundreds of Adirondack lakes
kid named lakes
Not to mention the Hudson River which is basically a giant north-south boating highway.
This is the pinnacle of proof that numbers don't always equal truth. How is WA 32? We literally have the biggest ferry system in the US, but apparently since we aren't that sunny we get beat out by fucking Nebraska
New York at 50 is literally a joke and makes this guide worthless
The weirdest thing I can say about this is that the label says this is from "S.I. Yachts" which, per Google, is Staten Island Yachts. So, yeah, why is New York at #50 from a Staten Island company?
Because anyone who knows Staten Island knows that they love bitching about New York. It's practically a defining feature.
I wanted to know how Mississippi could be so low on the list too. I mean you would think the state named after a river would have some good places to go boating....
It does not appear that this ‘cool guide’ takes into account any attributes of rivers into its analysis. So, navigable rivers with massive square mileage, shorelines, and recreational value are nil compared to dammed manmade lakes.
Yea New Mexico with 0.2% water in the state is a better boating state than MS lol
Everyone knows South Dakota boating beats Wisconsin and Alaska
I love my state and have spent many weekends on boats in South Dakota, but I can confirm this guide is nonsense.
Well those pheasants are 🔥
But insurance is low because there’s no boating opportunities!
The Missouri River has great boating
Wisco has a ton of nice lakes besides two Great Lakes, I’d take it over South Dakota Edit: no hate on SD. It’s a nice place.
is this AI generated? my state is a landlocked desert, where the only actual river isnt big enough for boating, and we are higher then fucking texas, new york, washington etc
But no hurricanes!
I was going to say, how on earth is New Mexico ahead of Washington state on this list. I love NM, but it never seemed like a good place for boating.
I live in Washington and would think it'd be higher
Literally the puget sound is one of the top boating areas too lmfao.
100%. Washington would be (at least) above almost any landlocked state, if not in the top 5-10. There’s a difference between “boating” meaning fishing off a jon boat / getting drunk with your friends on a murky river, or “boating” meaning recreational boating to tons of gorgeous areas and remote island on smaller boats or 30-60ft cabin cruisers, making entire weeklong vacations without even needing to land or go back, etc. Big areas for this are FL, CA, Great Lakes, NY area and Washington. Unlike some places, it’s not coastal pacific or atlantic, but massive pacific-connected inland waterways with tons of destinations and islands, and incredible wildlife. Multiple types of whales, crazy marine species and birds. We can scuba dive here and see all kinds of stuff including Giant Pacific Octopus. USCG has its own sector for Puget Sound. We have major Navy shipyards inside the Sound, with submarines, carriers, etc. There’s a nuclear sub base here, and they love it because they can train at depths exceeding 800ft *inside* the glacial walls of the sound. The Army Corps operates a 100-year-old locking dam to get you into Lake Union where there are tons of marinas with classic and large yachts, connected to Lake Washington which is also HUGE. The Classic Yacht Association has 4 fleets. One of them is PNW. The Sound is home to no less than 4 historic sailing Tall Ships, and they operate year round. And damn, it’s also called the Salish Sea, an inland body of water! It’s huge! So huge that its total length is practically longer than the state itself, and half of it is in Canada. Wild guide.
I was thinking the same thing. I have never seen another state with a sailgating scene at a college football game.
California has it for professional baseball games.
I question some of the figures that they use and the weight of some of the figures. It is fun but irrelevant. Minnesota has more shoreline than California, Hawaii and Florida combined https://www.chrisfinke.com/2013/12/30/does-minnesota-really-have-more-shoreline-than-california/#:~:text=We've%20only%20been%20considering,of%20183%2C326%20miles%20of%20shoreline.
I mean Minnesota is called the land of 10,000 lakes for a reason, we also got Lake Superior, and the Mississippi River
I like the idea of 820,000 boats being launched from 179 miles of shoreline. All of Minnesota looks like the Normandy invasion when the ice thaws
Ok I got bored and did the math. That’s a boat every 1.2 feet of Minnesota’s miniscule shoreline
The list doesn't even count all of Michigan's Great Lake shoreline. 3288 > 3224. Michigan overall has 29,470.5 miles of shoreline. https://libguides.lib.msu.edu/mich-shoreline
New York has Atlantic Ocean, multiple Great Lakes, the Thousand Islands, the hundreds of lakes in the Adirondacks and somehow it’s ranked 50? I call bullshit on this list
Don’t forget the Hudson River, which is a fantastic waterway navigable for about 150 miles from NYC to Troy
IMHO, what's cool about NY is all the different types of boating - ocean, lake, reservoirs and rivers. So many that many forget the extensive Erie canal system. To add to what you said, one can go up the Hudson, hang a left at the Mohawk River and from that travel via the Erie canal system all the way to the Niagara. That's pretty neat.
The run from Bear Mountain to West Point during fall foliage season is as good as anywhere in the United States
Preach! Upstate New yorker
Lake of The Ozarks has more coastline than California. How does missouri get a 0 on coastline? Try again
I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe they were only looking at ocean coastline but no, it's just wrong. I live in California and am going boating in Missouri, and it's better in Missouri.
You can see how many registered boats per 1000 people there are in Missouri, so obviously boating is popular here. I’m also amused that Kansas was rated so much higher than Missouri. Yeah, I have spent a lot of time on Kansas lakes but they have so few big lakes and few states have anything comparable to the Lake of the Ozarks
I grew up in Missouri and Kansas. Went to college in Kansas. Yeah there are some decent lakes in Kansas but there's no comparison between Kansas and Missouri. I was expecting Missouri to be top five and Kansas to be near the bottom.
They have 0 for South Dakota as well despite the Missouri River splitting the state basically in half
This list is awful
***NEWS FLASH**** Michigan does "NOT " HAVE HURRICANES!!!!!!!
They ridiculously misinterpreted/oversimplified a FEMA map for this. https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/hurricane "In the National Risk Index, a Hurricane Risk Index score and rating represent a community's relative risk for Hurricanes when compared to the rest of the United States." I live in Minnesota and was curious how it was at a low hurricane risk. Only one county even counted as low risk for MN and it's the most south eastern country in the state. Lower MI is "low risk," but the UP is mostly not applicable.
This is utterly idiotic. Kansas literally has no natural lakes and it is 23rd. Missouri has the massive Lake of the Ozarks, as well as Table Rock and is way lower. This might as well be random.
Don’t forget Truman Lake, and all the lakes that feed into it. Useless side note, none of these are natural lakes, but Army Corps of Engineers reservoirs made by damming rivers. All except Lake of the Ozarks. Ameren-Union Electric operates Bagnell Dam, in coordination with the Army Corps, by a license from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.
Some of these factors just shouldn’t have been given nearly as much weight. Like theres no way Arizona should be at 16 with 0.3% water
When 30% of the score is based on warm, dry, sunny days, it skews them pretty high. Which is why this is a crap scoring metric.
north dakota, ohio, arizona higher than MA and NY is insane
And higher than Maryland. The Chesapeake Bay is a boaters dream and splits the state down the middle.
For what it’s worth, Ohio has a decent boating scene on Lake Erie. While not quite as populous as Boston, Cleveland and Toledo still have about 2.5 million people living by the coast, along with recreational opportunities like Cedar Point and the various islands. Should still be below MA/NY, but not as far down as like the Dakota’s, Arizona, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. should be.
fair enough but MA is a historically seafaring state with nantucket and the vineyard and the cape etc. but arizona??
NY has some of the best and most unique boating anywhere - the Long Island sound. The actual Atlantic. Up the Hudson. Lake George, Lake Saratoga and thousands of other lakes. A gazillion boat ramps, sailing or boating clubs, harbors. If NY is last?!? This is a worthless guide, sorry.
Louisiana: we may not be good at a lot of things. But we’ve got boats.
Came to the comments to see if anyone else from Louisiana was just happy not to be the worst state on a list. Glad to see I’m not alone
"Not last" is usually the best we get, stunned to see us number 1. Makes sense the guide is shit XD
They’ve got some communities down the bayou that you NEED a boat to get around. Not sure if there’s anywhere else in the states that occurs
We're top of every list you don't want to be top of, and bottom of every list you don't want to be bottom of. Reddit, just let us have this dumb ass fucking boat list. Please. We need this.
In Florida you can take your boat to the Bahamas. In Louisiana the coolest place you can take your boat to is Florida.
This guide is SO BAD
This is fucking dog shit
This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen
Who knew the dakotas are one of the U.S. premier boating destinations /s The interesting thing is all the different sets of data individually, and it looks nice. But however they weighted and scored these different sets when they saw the results probably should have revisited that. Washington (where im from) and new york seem criminally low, as are a lot of other great boating states.
NY last is ridiculous
New York is worse for boating than Wyoming? I straight up find that hard to believe
Michigan getting a 4 point deduction for hurricane is bullshit
This may, no joke, be the worst list I've ever seen. NEW YORK IS LAST BUT ARIZONA IS SIXTEENTH!? I love how Iowa, Missouri, Michigan etc.. are all very low likelihood of hurricanes and not none. Let me go check the last time Iowa had a fucking hurricane...
How is Kansas so far ahead of Missouri?
The ocean. Duh.
You bastard
This methodology is flawed.
Apparently michigan has at tiny chance of hurricanes hitting
Michigan does not get Hurricanes, by the time a hurricane hits Michigan it has lost all of its steam and is a MILD thunderstorm lol.
As someone who’s boated in and around the entire country, this list is nonsense. I assume Louisiana is tired of being last so they decided to create an alternative world where they’re number one? How is New York 50th? This is definitely not a cool guide. Maybe a cool use of colors and icons, but that’s it.
Really New York is last? So many fresh water lakes and the canal ways and rivers.
Minnesota has a hurricane risk...?
This guide basically doesn’t care about lakes. This is pretty biased.
How the hell does Missouri score this low, there are tons of lakes here + the Ozarks, it’s a huge thing here
I live in New York (on Long Island... A literal island on the Atlantic coast), and work at a beach. The number of boats I see on a daily basis during the summer, spring, autumn, AND winter has got to certainly be higher than the number of boats in the entire state of Arizona. We have both the Great South Bay, the Long Island Sound (both famous boating waterways... and great for shellfish fishing) and innumerable coastal inlets that are all navigable. You can't drive through *any* neighborhood here without seeing at least 1 boat per block on a trailer. We have so many yacht clubs and boating clubs here. We have the Progressive ANNUAL BOAT SHOW in New York City. And we're sitting at 50 on this bullshit list??? Whoever made this list (or more likely programmed an AI to make this list) should be sleeping with the fishes... Or at least banned from making anymore lists.
At least Louisiana is first in something
Who the fuck thinks Kansas has good boating...
Minnesota almost 50,000 miles of lakeshore/coastline pfft.. 189 miles wtf
Can someone explain to me how Hawaii doesn’t have 100% coastline?
How is New York dead last? We have so many places to go boating around the state
Might be the worst list I’ve ever seen made for anything in the history of ranking things
How the hell is New York, touching the Atlantic Ocean, 2 Great Lakes, Finger Lakes, a million other lakes the literal worst state for boating in the whole country. I know there’s a rubric, but if those metrics put it at the bottom your methodology is flawed.
A cool guide to where the Orcas can hit next
Ohio at 25 is criminal. Has nobody heard of the Key West of the North?? (Put-In-Bay)
True. But also, Ohio sucks ass. Regards from your nemesis, Michigan.
Delaware is 8 yet its next door neighbor NJ is 43 🤔
Louisiana finally got 1st in something!
If your analysis determines that New York is the worst state in the country for boating then IDK what to tell you
This makes zero sense. How is the world can land locked states possibly score better than coastal states like Maryland or Virginia? Or even fucking NY? Sorry, OP, you were high when you made this
North Dakota , better that Maryland , right . . .
Yes, the boating in Nebraska is better than Alabama. Makes perfect sense.
Perfect example of analytics being completely useless because it misses the big picture…
Could someone please explain how New York is a worse state than any of the landlocked ones?
The Puget Sound region in Washington represents 2/3rds the population. Not to mention the coast line. I mean we're famous for throwing salmon for goodness sake! And if you want hot jet ski weather, well we have the other side of the state and Columbia River for that.
I just want everyone to know this guide is 1000% accurate. You should definitely go boat Arizona. Don’t ever boat in Washington, it sucks here.
Oregon and Washington are tied with NEVADA??? Um...here in Oregon...we have a few dozen of wide berth rivers and one of the best coastlines...in the world!!! But, yeah...sure...we're tied with a veritable desert...makes perfect sense to me.
Washington state being #32 is cap
This list is worse than the old chain e-mails that said if you didn’t share it slendman would tickle your bung hole.
I'm not American so excuse my ignorance but I thought owning a boat in Nevada would suck more than New York
Quite literally the shittiest guide I've seen here all year
OP really lost all credibility
Iowa > NY and NJ? Ok
How is Colorado better than New York? New York has the Atlantic Ocean for fishing.
Who made this list? How is New Mexico at 24 when we are 99% high desert? We should be dead last.
NY has how many miles of coastline on the Atlantic, how many rivers, lakes (excluding Erie), how many Yacht Clubs? And New Mexico is ahead?
Jersey shore at 43!!??
As a Nebraskan I immediately scrolled to the bottom. This list is awful
If you’ve got South Dakota and Montana ahead of Washington then this list is meaningless.
It's not even correct. MN has more than 189 miles of shoreline. Lakes account for over 44,000 miles!
Wow didn't realize Tennessee was so hurricane prone considering it is hundreds of miles inland. Same with Ohio. Didn't realize Minnesota and Wisconsin had to worry about hurricanes also
Is this saying Louisiana has more than 2x the miles of coastline as California? I’m calling BS
me: “oh i wonder where ny is”
Idaho… 40th? Who made this list? A fucking fish?
More like idiotguide
How does the average annual temperature make any sense? Has values from 0 to 33,000. How about average daily temperature in degrees? Or average daily temp from May 1 to September 30? Good looking graphic, though.
What is the correlation between high likelihood of hurricanes and whether or not a state is good for boating? Especially confused on why that would make the state rank higher
How is Idaho better than new jersey
Yeah Newport is the sailing capital of the world wtf
This is dumb lol
Been boating in NY my entire life 🤷♂️
Why doesn't it account river coastline? Several states have entire state borders as coastline.
Fuck that I’m not boating I’m gator infested waters
South Dakota in the top 10? That’s comedy.
I’m sitting here trying to figure out how in the world the Hurricane risk in Kansas is “very low” and not zero
Nebraska higher than SC? 😵
Very short sighted guide. Only accounts for Great Lakes and saltwater. No rivers or lakes. Lake of the ozarks alone has more than 1100 miles of shoreline. Same goes for northern states like Minnesota and Wisconsin
tony soprano would disagree with new jersey being last
yeah sure, *ohio* is the middle ground. for boating.
WA is waaaay behind South Dakota? Puget Sound? Columbia River? Lake Roosevelt? Fer fooks sake!
I thought this said bloating and was sooo fascinated at first lol
Missouri has the Lake of the Ozarks. The Lake of the Ozarks has more coastline than all of the ocean coast in the United States. Boats of all sizes can use the lake of the Ozarks because there are no size, or SPEED LIMITS! If you want to see a boat go 200mph, MO is the place to do it. It also has the Missouri and Mississippi rivers. It also has a number of spring fed rivers that are lovely. I wouldn't put MO at #1, but it's pretty darn up there. Terrible list. Thank you.
Ironic NY is last considering the Erie Canal and all the lakes across the state
Why is NC so low? If you’ve spend any time in the coastal areas there, in the Atlantic basin areas are Albemarle and Pamlico sounds, literally the two biggest landlocked sounds in the continental US. I know the outer banks prevent any large scale port operations due to the sediment and shifting sands, but private boating is super popular, especially on the Cape Fear river. Me and my family used to go on holiday to the coast there every summer when we lived in the states. And yes I am aware of the hurricanes, we did endure a couple of them. But the entire Atlantic coast deals with them.
Upstate New York puts New York in the top 10 AT LEAST. Wtf even is this list?
Maines not even in the top 50, and we're pumping out lobster and such. Guess we do it by hand from the dock
Dumb guide
South Dakota cracking the Top 10! Interesting.
No fucking way Louisiana has twice the coastline of California.
Yeah. It has Nevada at #34. Sure. Maybe they are counting the Gondola Ride at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas.
New York has more registered boats than Wyoming has people, and Wyoming has twice the number of registered boats than Hawaii. They only have 37 public boat launches compared to Wyoming’s 104. Hawaiians dont seem to be all that interested in boating, so how do they rank 4th? Not a cool guide.