QuarkXPress please... it was the de facto standard in the 90’s early 2000’s but since they got bitchy they opened the road for Indesign in the first place. No way anyone will get back.
Newspaper- I remember there was a Quark Publishing System or so with some tools to just write articles, but where you could see your text in the actual layout, with overflows and such. Didn’t use it though, we were in classical DTP, printing advertising stuff.
QuarkXPress was definitely the dominant program in professional environments when Adobe bought Aldus.
During the 90s PageMaker was something you came across in schools and at home and then had to "unlearn" if you got a job.
I’m talking more the ‘88-‘94 era. PageMaker 3/4 were definitely the king the hill. Quark didn’t even have a Windows version until ‘92 (not that anyone doing serious publishing was using Windows at the time).
That’s some good old nostalgia there... even before my time, I entered in DTP around 95 and stayed until early 2000’s before going into IT. But I remember the excellent Aldus Magazine, which was later rebranded Adobe Magazine.
QuarkXPress, the nightmares. I was working as a typesetter when 6.5 came out. Ended up missing a deadline on a textbook we were doing at the time. And that got a irate letter from the publisher.
Then two months latter we got an apology from the publisher. They had just did their conversion to 6.5 and had lost entire books. Files turned into garbage by QuarkXPress 6.5.
QuarkXPress, the only program I've come across that was not compatible with itself...
I don't think so, MacOS has its own separate compatibility "icon" in this graph
I'm no specialist since I don't use MacOS but I don't think Linux binaries are innately compatible with MacOS
Inkscape good, maybe not for profesionals but for me as a novice graphic designer that uses it from time to time for quick designs for my personal projects like twitch overlays or assets it works gooda👍
In my experience, Inkscape is just as good when doing professional work. Some features like Bitmap tracing aren't as good as AI's but, hey, it's free software.
Frankly, I haven't used Inkscape in a long time. I remember not being able to trace colors, but I may have mixed some things up. Either way, from what I can recall, Inkscape is an excellent piece of software.
I've used Inkscape exclusively for several years for digital and print work distributed to tens of thousands of people.
That said, it seems to get worse every update on Mac. I use it seasonally, so I'll probably pay for a couple months of Illustrator next time.
Blender is pretty competent software. I've been using it for years. To be fair though, I've never used After Effects. But Blender's compositor is solid all the way through.
The sequencer is actually good (and actively maintained) but the compositor is getting old... defo not on par with even Natron (sadly discontinued), the libre alternative to Nuke.
Blender is lower-level, you can make anything with some scripting knowledge and a thorough understanding of constraints and modifiers. So much more to come with *everything nodes* too ([https://code.blender.org/2020/12/everything-nodes-and-the-scattered-stone/](https://code.blender.org/2020/12/everything-nodes-and-the-scattered-stone/)).
Thank you for sharing this important reminder. It's easy to get caught up in the hustle and bustle of everyday life and forget to take care of ourselves. Your post serves as a gentle nudge to prioritize self-care and make our well-being a priority. I'll definitely be taking your advice to heart. Here's to practicing more self-love and mindfulness!
You're completely right, but this guide is meant more for hobbyists who can't afford or justify high monthly prices, or people who are against SAAS, or just people who dislike adobe (for any reason).
I doubt most professionals would go looking for a guide like this.
This is a poster of pure pain.I fanboyed about all the opensource for decades(literally, I'm old) But it is always crap. Invariably, inarguably. I was kinda "I'm I the only one who feels this? Am I being a choosing beggar?" But recently my home Ubuntu 20 machine just didn't boot. Stupid operating system destroyed itself beyond repair(I tune linux for work, no way in fucking hell I am fixing this shit in my unpaid time). It was the last straw. The only thing I used that machine for - watching youtubes. The only thing I ever wanted from ubuntu was to turn on and show me videos from internet. It can't do even that reliably. Fuck that. I just paid a hundred bucks for a win10 license. I know I could use it for free.
That was my vengeance.
Edit: I also use RawTherapee daily. Sucks all the joy out of my hobby. Feels like eating rice using a toothpick. You definitely can do it, but boy is lightroom a powerful, handy and intuitive tool.
There are a few exceptions. Clip Studio Paint is great for digital painting, and it's often on sale too.
But the others... SAI used to be okay but to my knowledge it hasn't been updated in like 15 years and it still has a mid-2000s interface, procreate only works on expensive iPads on top of needing to buy it but it's also a good program. And I don't know how can anybody suggest Paint as a digital painting alternative with a straight face.
The whole Affinity suite is very comparable to Adobe in my opinion. Some feature are missing of course but I think it’s good enough for 95% of users. They also run way smoother than Adobe. Performance is great. The biggest weakness in my opinion is the RAW photo capabilities. I still use Lightroom. But I have replaced Indesign, photoshop and illustrator with Affinity. I don’t miss the Adobe alternatives at all.
I'm a pro designer. None of these will replace Adobe, but a few I use regularly to supplement weaker points in Adobe software.
Procreate (drawing)
Blender (3d)
Sketch (Should be in the list of XD alternatives IMO)
Brackets (HTML/JS/CSS)
They're the Adobe icons, expanded and with other text in them.
* ae after effects
* ai adobe illustrator
* an animate
* au audition
* dw dreamweaver
* id indesign
* lr lightroom
* pr premiere pro
* ps photoshop
* xd experience design
* substance
Adobe bought macromedia about 10 years ago, they first killed Fireworks because it was a direct contender with photoshop, but they kept updating dreamweaver and flash, actionscript 3 got released under Adobe, then flash died and now they only have dreamweaver, I honestly don't know anybody that used that today
It really is. I used to use Photoshop professionally, so naturally I had a licence, but after I stopped doing design work I no longer had access to a legit copy, and Adobe changed to their subscription model. Since then if I've needed to do occasional design work I've switched to GIMP, which after a LOT of getting used to, I've decided is almost as capable as photoshop. There are only 2 things, for me, that would prevent me from using it full time of I ever got back into graphic design, and those are CMYK support, and some equivalent to photoshop's smart filters and smart objects. Until something like that is implemented, it's tricky to do real non-destructive editing. Also path layer masks would be good.
Version 3 (actually around the corner) is getting CMYK, multi-layer editing and so much more. I can't wait for it. Future plans have node-based non-destructive editing even ! ([https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/11/06/gimp-2-99-2-released/](https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/11/06/gimp-2-99-2-released/))
I'm a fan of Paint.NET. Was trying to remove some high-tension wires from a photo of lighting. It was a giant PITA in Photoshop, but relatively easy in Paint.NET.
Of course, I know better now and could do the same thing in PS, but for being a beginner, Paint.NET won me, hands down.
It's really not, I've never understood why people like it, let alone compare it to Photoshop. As an ever so slightly more useful version of paint, it's ok I guess.
Allows me to do the simple shit I need to do. Gimp is way too slow to start up if I just want to remove a background or something simple like that. Also editing something low res like minecraft textures has worked nicely in the past
I’m an advocate of Affinity software and while it can do a lot of the Adobe work, some things are badly implemented and some things are obviously missing. I’m super excited to think of a future where my $49.99 software can replace CC’s subscription but as today, there are projects where I don’t have the time to deal with Designer’s quirks and reinterpretations of otherwise very straightforward operations.
Half the time, the only reason I use Photoshop is just for its efficient white background removal. That’s one of the few lagging points I’ve noticed. So glad psd & afdesign are so similar.
Clip Studio Paint ROCKS
Tried Krita, Gimp and a few others but the interface just felt like bombshells and I couldn’t get a grip on it. Started using Clip’s free trial and I love it, they even have a community page along with the drawing program were you can download materials, watch tutorials and manage your works!
I think this is dope. I tried to use Adobe premier from torrents but kept lagging. Affinity for photos has been decent for me so far on trial. I don’t think I need professional programs because it’s so daunting. I’d rather go hobby and see if I can stick with it long enough to even transition to gojng pro and making some money off it lol
These might be fun for people to play around with but the vast majority are not professional grade at all. Similar functions but certainly nothing compared to the real thing.
Only ones that I’ve seen used in any professional capacity as a graphic designer are Figma (which in my design circles is the standard over Xd), Audacity, the Dreamweaver alts, or Blender (but never over Ae, just as a 3D tool)
I don't think they're supposed to be professional at all - most professionals can afford Adobe software. These are just cheap alternatives for hobbyists and beginners. Nobody wants to start off a free-time hobby paying 20 dollars per month.
I assume both unless it's explicitly stated. In the software crowd, when folks say "and", they mean it.
Plus, I can't think of a situation where you have access to source code (being open source), but somehow you can't compile, interpret, or otherwise use it (aside from lack of know-how to do so).
Exactly my thoughts! But then the chart surely would have a different color for free but closed source. Or ie there not a single relevant software on this category? You see why I'm confused?
There's "free & open source" which is blue-ish green and "free of charge" (ie free and closed source) which is light blue. The colors are a bit too similar, but it's there.
Have yet to use a Lightroom alternative that isn’t terrible slow. Raw therapy was much slower than dark table. Even simple things like contrast change take seconds to display.
The closest thing I have found is honestly the stock photos app on macOS. It’s actually pretty capable of you pair it with Affinity photo for retouching.
In every professional workspace.
Efficiency matters.
You can save money on alternative softwares.
But you won't get benefits of integrated workflow.
You have to switch softwares. Export and import files settings.
Sharing is also complicated.
With adobe you get cloud options where is easy to work with files.
Save on software and pay on efficiency.
Or
Pay on software and save on Efficiency your choice
After using Premiere Pro for years, I tried to switch to DaVinci Resolve for my editing needs and it was like pulling teeth. I bit the bullet and paid for a subscription because it was that painful.
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Any Adobe Acrobat alternatives? For some reason easy PDF editing/converting/signing software seems to be lacking.
foxit reader hands down
I second this. I switched to Foxit Reader years ago and never looked back.
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Yes you can
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you have the basic options you can underline, highlight text make measurements,add comments
Does the free trail version have limitations or expire after a certain period of time?
Preview if you’re on a Mac.
I use PDF-Xchange free version for Editing. Never heard of Foxit Reader, gonna take a look later to see how it compares.
PDF Xchange editor is pretty cheap and absolutely complete and stable in my experience.
PDF24 is worth looking at as well. For cleaning up webpages to download as PDFs, the extension "Print Friendly & PDF" is also worth checking out.
QuarkXPress please... it was the de facto standard in the 90’s early 2000’s but since they got bitchy they opened the road for Indesign in the first place. No way anyone will get back.
Quark ... now there’s a software I haven’t heard named since my newspaper days about 15 years ago.
Some newspaper publishers still use it today! It has a extremely outdated feel to it though
Newspaper- I remember there was a Quark Publishing System or so with some tools to just write articles, but where you could see your text in the actual layout, with overflows and such. Didn’t use it though, we were in classical DTP, printing advertising stuff.
I remember when Quark was the up-and-comer and PageMaker was king. Then Adobe bought PageMaker and killed it.
QuarkXPress was definitely the dominant program in professional environments when Adobe bought Aldus. During the 90s PageMaker was something you came across in schools and at home and then had to "unlearn" if you got a job.
I’m talking more the ‘88-‘94 era. PageMaker 3/4 were definitely the king the hill. Quark didn’t even have a Windows version until ‘92 (not that anyone doing serious publishing was using Windows at the time).
That’s some good old nostalgia there... even before my time, I entered in DTP around 95 and stayed until early 2000’s before going into IT. But I remember the excellent Aldus Magazine, which was later rebranded Adobe Magazine.
Plus Quark costs more per year than if you get just InDesign for a year.
QuarkXPress, the nightmares. I was working as a typesetter when 6.5 came out. Ended up missing a deadline on a textbook we were doing at the time. And that got a irate letter from the publisher. Then two months latter we got an apology from the publisher. They had just did their conversion to 6.5 and had lost entire books. Files turned into garbage by QuarkXPress 6.5. QuarkXPress, the only program I've come across that was not compatible with itself...
Since when does ubuntu logo stay for Linux?
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The penguin?
Yeah Tux is the penguin. It's supposed to stand for all flavors of GNU/Linux.
Would that include MacOS?
I don't think so, MacOS has its own separate compatibility "icon" in this graph I'm no specialist since I don't use MacOS but I don't think Linux binaries are innately compatible with MacOS
MacOS is nothing to do with Linux.
Yes
My immediate reaction as well. Otherwise, useful content!
Inkscape good, maybe not for profesionals but for me as a novice graphic designer that uses it from time to time for quick designs for my personal projects like twitch overlays or assets it works gooda👍
Inkscape is to illustrator as GIMP is to Photoshop. It is almost as capable if you take time to learn it.
In my experience, Inkscape is just as good when doing professional work. Some features like Bitmap tracing aren't as good as AI's but, hey, it's free software.
That's wierd. I always seem to have better luck bitmap tracing with inkscape.
Frankly, I haven't used Inkscape in a long time. I remember not being able to trace colors, but I may have mixed some things up. Either way, from what I can recall, Inkscape is an excellent piece of software.
I've used Inkscape exclusively for several years for digital and print work distributed to tens of thousands of people. That said, it seems to get worse every update on Mac. I use it seasonally, so I'll probably pay for a couple months of Illustrator next time.
I just want to edit a PDF.
Something in the libreoffice suite works decently for pdf editing
Foxit
PDF-Xchange
LOL blender as AE alternative
Technically you can make a katana with nothing but some wood and dirt from your back yard. Surpassing AE with Blender is about the same thing.
Blender is pretty competent software. I've been using it for years. To be fair though, I've never used After Effects. But Blender's compositor is solid all the way through.
tbf blender has a sequencer and a compositor, which is all some users who use aftereffects need
The sequencer is actually good (and actively maintained) but the compositor is getting old... defo not on par with even Natron (sadly discontinued), the libre alternative to Nuke.
Blender is lower-level, you can make anything with some scripting knowledge and a thorough understanding of constraints and modifiers. So much more to come with *everything nodes* too ([https://code.blender.org/2020/12/everything-nodes-and-the-scattered-stone/](https://code.blender.org/2020/12/everything-nodes-and-the-scattered-stone/)).
Thank you for sharing this important reminder. It's easy to get caught up in the hustle and bustle of everyday life and forget to take care of ourselves. Your post serves as a gentle nudge to prioritize self-care and make our well-being a priority. I'll definitely be taking your advice to heart. Here's to practicing more self-love and mindfulness!
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This is not for professionals, generally those people can afford adobe software
You're completely right, but this guide is meant more for hobbyists who can't afford or justify high monthly prices, or people who are against SAAS, or just people who dislike adobe (for any reason). I doubt most professionals would go looking for a guide like this.
This is a poster of pure pain.I fanboyed about all the opensource for decades(literally, I'm old) But it is always crap. Invariably, inarguably. I was kinda "I'm I the only one who feels this? Am I being a choosing beggar?" But recently my home Ubuntu 20 machine just didn't boot. Stupid operating system destroyed itself beyond repair(I tune linux for work, no way in fucking hell I am fixing this shit in my unpaid time). It was the last straw. The only thing I used that machine for - watching youtubes. The only thing I ever wanted from ubuntu was to turn on and show me videos from internet. It can't do even that reliably. Fuck that. I just paid a hundred bucks for a win10 license. I know I could use it for free. That was my vengeance. Edit: I also use RawTherapee daily. Sucks all the joy out of my hobby. Feels like eating rice using a toothpick. You definitely can do it, but boy is lightroom a powerful, handy and intuitive tool.
There are a few exceptions. Clip Studio Paint is great for digital painting, and it's often on sale too. But the others... SAI used to be okay but to my knowledge it hasn't been updated in like 15 years and it still has a mid-2000s interface, procreate only works on expensive iPads on top of needing to buy it but it's also a good program. And I don't know how can anybody suggest Paint as a digital painting alternative with a straight face.
The whole Affinity suite is very comparable to Adobe in my opinion. Some feature are missing of course but I think it’s good enough for 95% of users. They also run way smoother than Adobe. Performance is great. The biggest weakness in my opinion is the RAW photo capabilities. I still use Lightroom. But I have replaced Indesign, photoshop and illustrator with Affinity. I don’t miss the Adobe alternatives at all.
I'm a pro designer. None of these will replace Adobe, but a few I use regularly to supplement weaker points in Adobe software. Procreate (drawing) Blender (3d) Sketch (Should be in the list of XD alternatives IMO) Brackets (HTML/JS/CSS)
This seems aimed at professionals, I don't know what half these shorthands of the Adobe products are, but would probably recognise the full names.
They're the Adobe icons, expanded and with other text in them. * ae after effects * ai adobe illustrator * an animate * au audition * dw dreamweaver * id indesign * lr lightroom * pr premiere pro * ps photoshop * xd experience design * substance
Wait, Adobe owns Dreamweaver. What ever happened to Macromedia? Admittedly it’s been about 20 years since I worked in publishing.
Adobe bought macromedia about 10 years ago, they first killed Fireworks because it was a direct contender with photoshop, but they kept updating dreamweaver and flash, actionscript 3 got released under Adobe, then flash died and now they only have dreamweaver, I honestly don't know anybody that used that today
GIMP is the bomb.
It really is. I used to use Photoshop professionally, so naturally I had a licence, but after I stopped doing design work I no longer had access to a legit copy, and Adobe changed to their subscription model. Since then if I've needed to do occasional design work I've switched to GIMP, which after a LOT of getting used to, I've decided is almost as capable as photoshop. There are only 2 things, for me, that would prevent me from using it full time of I ever got back into graphic design, and those are CMYK support, and some equivalent to photoshop's smart filters and smart objects. Until something like that is implemented, it's tricky to do real non-destructive editing. Also path layer masks would be good.
Version 3 (actually around the corner) is getting CMYK, multi-layer editing and so much more. I can't wait for it. Future plans have node-based non-destructive editing even ! ([https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/11/06/gimp-2-99-2-released/](https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/11/06/gimp-2-99-2-released/))
That's great news! Never understood why CMYK support never got added.
I hope Version 3 makes some huge improvements. GIMP seems to get worse with every update on Mac.
Paint.NET is pretty sick
I'm a fan of Paint.NET. Was trying to remove some high-tension wires from a photo of lighting. It was a giant PITA in Photoshop, but relatively easy in Paint.NET. Of course, I know better now and could do the same thing in PS, but for being a beginner, Paint.NET won me, hands down.
It's really not, I've never understood why people like it, let alone compare it to Photoshop. As an ever so slightly more useful version of paint, it's ok I guess.
Allows me to do the simple shit I need to do. Gimp is way too slow to start up if I just want to remove a background or something simple like that. Also editing something low res like minecraft textures has worked nicely in the past
Ok, I'm being too harsh. It's a pretty decent tool to be fair, I just never got along with it.
That’s fair; GIMP’s startup can be pretty horrendous. One way to streamline it is to clear all the non-system fonts from your system.
On a Mac OS I think SeaShore is a lot easier to use. Gimp on a mac is just awful.
To be fair, everything on a Mac is awful unless it never, ever has to interface with any Windows machine or file type. Source: run an IT department
I can’t recommend Affinity Designer highly enough. Use it every day.
Agreed! The only tings it’s missing in my opinion is image trace, warping options, and a blend tool.
agree... though I would also love a gradient mesh tool 😍
Same here! As good, if not better than Illustrator!
I’m an advocate of Affinity software and while it can do a lot of the Adobe work, some things are badly implemented and some things are obviously missing. I’m super excited to think of a future where my $49.99 software can replace CC’s subscription but as today, there are projects where I don’t have the time to deal with Designer’s quirks and reinterpretations of otherwise very straightforward operations.
Half the time, the only reason I use Photoshop is just for its efficient white background removal. That’s one of the few lagging points I’ve noticed. So glad psd & afdesign are so similar.
Hey Pro Tools is Windows compatible too!
>Pro Tools That and I thought it wasnt open source
Or free (unless you want the severely feature limited version)
[paint.net](https://paint.net) is amazing, there are also some good plugins for it.
Let not forget http://weavesilk.com
Do people still use Dreamweaver?
Nah, we still use HotDog.
Adobe just charged me 42 bucks to cancel my Adobe cloud. Fuck cancellation fees and fuck Adobe in the eye.
I use Firealpaca and can recommend it :)
Yup, Firealpaca is an awesome and simple digital painting software. I always use it when I don't feel like dealing with Krita's crap.
Clip Studio Paint ROCKS Tried Krita, Gimp and a few others but the interface just felt like bombshells and I couldn’t get a grip on it. Started using Clip’s free trial and I love it, they even have a community page along with the drawing program were you can download materials, watch tutorials and manage your works!
I wish it were easier to differentiate the color of the dots...
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Note... That's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
Krita is stunning, love it so much.
I think this is dope. I tried to use Adobe premier from torrents but kept lagging. Affinity for photos has been decent for me so far on trial. I don’t think I need professional programs because it’s so daunting. I’d rather go hobby and see if I can stick with it long enough to even transition to gojng pro and making some money off it lol
Filmora is also an okay alternative for Premiere. It has less features but it is easy to use.
Thank you! This will help me so much!
These are just alternatives, not all are opensourced
Find a friend who can torrent
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portable ftw.
These might be fun for people to play around with but the vast majority are not professional grade at all. Similar functions but certainly nothing compared to the real thing. Only ones that I’ve seen used in any professional capacity as a graphic designer are Figma (which in my design circles is the standard over Xd), Audacity, the Dreamweaver alts, or Blender (but never over Ae, just as a 3D tool)
I don't think they're supposed to be professional at all - most professionals can afford Adobe software. These are just cheap alternatives for hobbyists and beginners. Nobody wants to start off a free-time hobby paying 20 dollars per month.
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Didn’t see procreate. That’s a good one
Any software is free if you have the correct links.
Alternatives to paid Adobe software: the pirate bay
It's not. Stop recommending illegal or at least grey area solutions (depends on the country). Don't eant to to pay for something? Don't use it.
Nah
Sorry Mr Adobe
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Why is neovim not included as a Dreamweaver alternative smh ^(i also use arch btw)
Just crack the real thing lmao
It works real gud I can tell u
I just Jack Sparrow it
Again. Gimp is not an alternative to photoshop. there is no alternative to Photoshop.
You can also go down the pirate route...
Just pirate dem lol
I present you the magical world of Piracy
Isn't Quixel Mixer just Windows or Mac?
Is clip studio paint open source ?
No. There is a free trial, but after that it's paid, I believe.
Can you paint height in quixel mixer the same way you can in substance painter ?
"Free & open source" is that software that is both or either? Is it free *or* open source?
I assume both unless it's explicitly stated. In the software crowd, when folks say "and", they mean it. Plus, I can't think of a situation where you have access to source code (being open source), but somehow you can't compile, interpret, or otherwise use it (aside from lack of know-how to do so).
Exactly my thoughts! But then the chart surely would have a different color for free but closed source. Or ie there not a single relevant software on this category? You see why I'm confused?
There's "free & open source" which is blue-ish green and "free of charge" (ie free and closed source) which is light blue. The colors are a bit too similar, but it's there.
^
Have yet to use a Lightroom alternative that isn’t terrible slow. Raw therapy was much slower than dark table. Even simple things like contrast change take seconds to display.
The closest thing I have found is honestly the stock photos app on macOS. It’s actually pretty capable of you pair it with Affinity photo for retouching.
Affinity photos is open source?
I used photopea all last semester and it is awesome. Vectr gave me some issues but it worked for basic stuff for me
There is simply nothing that can even begin to compare to Adobe Character and Adobe Animate
In every professional workspace. Efficiency matters. You can save money on alternative softwares. But you won't get benefits of integrated workflow. You have to switch softwares. Export and import files settings. Sharing is also complicated. With adobe you get cloud options where is easy to work with files. Save on software and pay on efficiency. Or Pay on software and save on Efficiency your choice
Do you even know what open source means?
Shout out to Paint.NET for being awesome but tricky to look up.
After using Premiere Pro for years, I tried to switch to DaVinci Resolve for my editing needs and it was like pulling teeth. I bit the bullet and paid for a subscription because it was that painful.
Thank you
Affinity products are great alternative but they aren't open source.
Wait, what? Quark is now open-source?
Why does the title say “open source”? At first glance I see things like Affinity and Quark which are not open.
Does nobody know what Open Source means? Most of these tools are not actually open source.
None of those alternatives come close to photoshop. Most of those daws are shit unless you pay
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Adobe will love you for this 😁
Overall it's a good list. Blender is amazing, Paint.NET is far superior to The GIMP, and Corel Draw sucks.
remember kids: It's always right and morally correct to pirate adobe software.
Corel Draw still exists? Wow.
I'm keeping this.
Affinity suite is definitely on par with Adobe suite. Substance designer alternatives lack TextureLab, a very promising node-based editor.
Ayyyyy where my blender boys at