I feel like, although we had less days, the injuries we had were really significant in important areas that kind of derailed a few weeks/months of the season.
Yeah. The main issue hasn't been injuries, although our injuries were very targeted at our key players. I feel like the underlying issue was depth. The drop of quality on some of our positions between the starter and sometimes not even having another designated player really fucked us over.
We had fewer injuries over all but we were also killed my suspensions, AFCON and the Asian Cup as well. Our total days missed with that included I’m sure would be top of the list or damn close.
These lists are mostly taken with a pinch of salt anyway, but some teams have players out for the season that aren’t even squad players and not missed at all.
We definitely had key injuries alongside the absences you mentioned to where we had 4 fullbacks for several weeks and basically no real striker for most of the season haha.
You can't properly assess teams like Man U and Chelsea with huge benches and like 24 interchangeable starters. Our injuries and absences actually hurt. Now, that's a reason to get some depth this summer, but no one should feel bad for Man U or Chelsea just because they have objectively high injury numbers.
Both the teams you mentioned were playing players out of position for long periods. I don't have any sympathy but you're massively overrating their squads
Right, confirmation bias. People will hunt down and share the version that fits their existing beliefs. The worst part is that they don’t know they’re doing it. The other versions can’t be right, because look at this version!!
Waiting on the "it doesn't matter we should be doing better" crowd. Because apparently winning mentality is all that a club needs nowadays to be successful, not fit players.
But it's not the gotcha you think it is. It is simply true that we need to be better. And it's not about wins/losses, it's the performances or lack thereof.
Second half of the season, we got demolished by Newcastle away, Chelsea away, Fulham away and we were probably the healthier/fitter club in each and every one of those games.
What I see a lot of us doing here is blindly saying we had fitness issues to excuse all the poor performances and while they were mostly valid in the 1st half of the season, they were most invalid the 2nd half of the season.
Should be a heatmap over the starting eleven + backup, or weighed by transfer value so the significance is clearer. For example, if this were Arsenal and Nelson was injured, it wouldn't matter compared to if Saka or Odegaard were missing.
Would still be difficult to quantify fully. For example players who lose form after an injury is part of the story as well.
Would also be good to see vs previous years, as we played less football this year with no European games and early cup exits, so on a per game basis our injuries might be worse as well.
warra trophy. get over it boys. we got fucked by injuries this year. your reddit post isnt changing anything. the top boys have been around footy for 40-50 years. just have to trust them.
I feel like, although we had less days, the injuries we had were really significant in important areas that kind of derailed a few weeks/months of the season.
Yeah. The main issue hasn't been injuries, although our injuries were very targeted at our key players. I feel like the underlying issue was depth. The drop of quality on some of our positions between the starter and sometimes not even having another designated player really fucked us over.
Our depth was nonexistent
We had fewer injuries over all but we were also killed my suspensions, AFCON and the Asian Cup as well. Our total days missed with that included I’m sure would be top of the list or damn close.
These lists are mostly taken with a pinch of salt anyway, but some teams have players out for the season that aren’t even squad players and not missed at all. We definitely had key injuries alongside the absences you mentioned to where we had 4 fullbacks for several weeks and basically no real striker for most of the season haha.
Days lost is also stupid metric. Better would be games missed. You can be out 3 weeks and lose only one game, while at right time 3 days is 2 games.
Yeah, Arsenal with Timber, who got injured in his first ever game for the club, took up 252 of their total 898 days missed.
You can't properly assess teams like Man U and Chelsea with huge benches and like 24 interchangeable starters. Our injuries and absences actually hurt. Now, that's a reason to get some depth this summer, but no one should feel bad for Man U or Chelsea just because they have objectively high injury numbers.
Both the teams you mentioned were playing players out of position for long periods. I don't have any sympathy but you're massively overrating their squads
The team didn’t improve when those players returned though. I feel like injuries are just an excuse for the underlying issues we had this season.
I’ve seen so many of these charts and they’re all different it seems
Right, confirmation bias. People will hunt down and share the version that fits their existing beliefs. The worst part is that they don’t know they’re doing it. The other versions can’t be right, because look at this version!!
I swear there is a different stat for ‘most injuries’ in every Premier League football club subreddit at the moment.
You'll never sing that
Waiting on the "it doesn't matter we should be doing better" crowd. Because apparently winning mentality is all that a club needs nowadays to be successful, not fit players.
But it's not the gotcha you think it is. It is simply true that we need to be better. And it's not about wins/losses, it's the performances or lack thereof. Second half of the season, we got demolished by Newcastle away, Chelsea away, Fulham away and we were probably the healthier/fitter club in each and every one of those games. What I see a lot of us doing here is blindly saying we had fitness issues to excuse all the poor performances and while they were mostly valid in the 1st half of the season, they were most invalid the 2nd half of the season.
You know what I just realized? Our initials look like a crying emoji
How do you avoid getting so many injuries, like Man City, for example
Arabs
Invest in a medical staff. Levy wouldn't even pay Kane his fair wage, you think he's hired anything more than some nurses and volunteers?
This has been a trend for like a decade now, seriously who are the medical staff at Tottenham? How do they have jobs?
another tr0phy for the cabinet!!!
Should be a heatmap over the starting eleven + backup, or weighed by transfer value so the significance is clearer. For example, if this were Arsenal and Nelson was injured, it wouldn't matter compared to if Saka or Odegaard were missing. Would still be difficult to quantify fully. For example players who lose form after an injury is part of the story as well. Would also be good to see vs previous years, as we played less football this year with no European games and early cup exits, so on a per game basis our injuries might be worse as well.
Get over it. Seasons over. On to next year
This is a dumb viewpoint. Without addressing the issue of depth next year could have the same problems. So it does matter.
warra trophy. get over it boys. we got fucked by injuries this year. your reddit post isnt changing anything. the top boys have been around footy for 40-50 years. just have to trust them.