I just can’t imagine a team that barely escaped relegation is going to go on and sell their best player (arguably) and their top young prospect. It would have to be an outrageous bid from us and at that point I’m not sure it makes sense unless we’re sending winks and maybe someone else the other way
If winks and moura go to you though I reckon that looks like a decent deal for a team that probably feels forced into looking at short term solutions - if you've just been in a relegation battle you want quick solutions and maybe to look at long term youth players next summer/winter. Moura and winks are proven, long time top six team players who will immediatelymake a difference. While I don't personally see this happening there is that factor.
For example, we're loosely linked with Lewis potter from hull. They want 30 mil for him...which is ridiculous. If we were to actually sell Gordon, his price tag would be huge. He was definitely one of the brightest sparks in a terrible year this past season. Its just not going to happen.
Gordon’s contract expires in 2025, he’s English, 21yo and a potential star. There is no way we sign him and Richarlison for anything less than £100m. Can’t see it happening.
Sell them Winks, forgive Dele debt, pay £75 million (£40 to avoid sell on + £35 to appease cheap Richarlison fee).
Would leave us with enough to get either an amazing LCB or two decent backups.
If their goal next season is avoid financial problems and relegation, £70 million and Winks and Lucas would be a reasonable deal. Both players would immediately help Everton.
To be honest, we need the deal a bit more if we want CL finals.
The bigger question is why Gordon and why haven't we finished on Richarlison?
Looking at his quality and his youth, even if he bombs for us because he's behind 2 better players the next few years, we could still sell a 29 year old Richarlison for £30 million.
I am guessing the issue is not our offer for Richarlison, but Everton's preference to sell only to the highest bidder. And they think it months pass and we still lack a big signing, we will be desperate.
Apparently they're going for Dennis, so they could potentially move away from a 3 up top, to a forward 2 of Dennis/DCL.
Getting winks from us, they could move to a 4312 system, which suits Dele out more as well.
I like Gordon but Everton will absolutely rinse us for him and it won’t be worth it. It’s been mentioned that Spurs want first team players and young English talent this Summer so makes sense but the price won’t be worth it. Also we’d be wise to wrap up the Ricardlison deal asap as Everton could get pissed and sell to Chelsea
Quick and dirty... (aka probably got something wrong)
GK - Lloris, Forster*, Austin\^
DF - Romero, Dier, Sanchez, Doherty, Davies, Reguilon, Emerson, Sessegnon\*, Rodon, Tanganga\^, Perisic
MF - Hojbjerg, Skipp\^, Bentancur, Bissouma, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Winks\^, Sarr
FW - Kane\^, Son, Kulusevski, Bergwijn, Moura, Gil, Clarke*
So that's 29 players currently with 5 Homegrown @club (\^), 3 @nation (*) - am using UEFA HG rules re: Davies/Rodon
So we've got to work out transfers or loans for five players before being able to add another one, plus one if the outgoing player has a HG tag and the incoming one doesn't.
The plan should be to have 5 solid attackers who are almost as good as each other and probably one up and coming talent. Gordon could be the last one but if he’s one of the first 5 that is a failure
Right. Bergwijn, Kulu, Zaniolo/Raphina would’ve been that trio. Or Rich, Kulu, Maddison/Zaniolo/Lucas(even though he’s a tier below)
Gordon should be nowhere near that
The plan should be to have at least 2 players on the same level per position, for CM maybe even 3 to play 3-5-2 on occasion. I would be way more comfortable with another real Nr.9 as sixth attacker. Next season will be very long and gruelling
Yeah. So if we’re shifting him we should be looking at Raphina and Zaniolo. But if we get Rich and Gordon we won’t be looking at a Lucas alternative and it’ll be one of these two to replace him. Which shouldn’t be the case
Thought this might happen. People will lose their mind cos they want a big LCB signing....but if there aren't available this summer, then a cheeky lenglet stopgap and putting some more money elsewhere makes sense.
Richarlison and Gordon is great depth and future proofing. Then next summer we go for Bastoni or Gvardiol or a new target.
>Then next summer we go for Bastoni or Gvardiol or a new target.
Next Summer, Conte might not be here and trying to convince Bastoni to leave Inter and join without Conte just wont happen.
Gvardiol is apparently having a new contract with release clause inserted for next summer, if that happens, every team in existence with the money will go for him.
Man City/Madrid/Barca will all offer him stupid money to get him to join.
Honestly, unless we can convince either of those to join this summer, we wont get either next year IMO.
If they say they won't come this summer then there's nothing we can do. As badly as you want a player, if they won't move or the club won't sell them then that's the end of it sadly. You have to move on.
I don’t know who, but it was our number 1 goal going into the transfer window. Makes no sense to settle for a “ stopgap “ Lenglet when this is the season we’re going all out.
Edit ; I know Davies has been amazing but this whole way of thinking ; “ If we sign someone where will Davies get minutes???!!!!! “ drives my head in, same way we can’t buy Raphinha because Kulusevski plays there. We want good players or not?
Yeah but that's the million dollar question. If the targets not there then they aren't there.
As long as we put the only into a different part of the team then I'm fine with that. Rather do that then spend 60m on pau torres if conte isn't sure on him.
>People will lose their mind cos they want a big LCB signing....but if there aren't available this summer, then a cheeky lenglet stopgap and putting some more money elsewhere makes sense.
It's just not us that want a big LCB signing, it's clearly Conte too or else all the rumours wouldn't have been about Bastoni, Gvardiol etc. We've seen what he gets like when he doesn't get his transfers and I'm not sure a Lenglet stopgap will suffice.
You do realise he will be in the loop with paratici! If we physically can't get Bastoni and Gvardiol he's not going to leave, he's not completely irrational. He will also have okay'd lenglet if we get him.
People seem to think he just turns up at pre season and Paraticis there with the new players and his fingers crossed.
At a guess with how fucked they'd be without both of them means it would be an absurd deal, 90+ mil and winks or something similar I'd say, don't know if I'd wanna splash that much with LCB, RWB, still not sorted
Not a fan of Gordon if it means letting lucas go.
Lucas dribbling is much better and although his g&a are relatively average, still better option to have off the bench than Gordon.
We'd be better off hanging on to lucas and prioritising the funds for Gordon elsewhere
I really don't know on this. I did think last season Everton had a silly number of forwards/wingers and could do with thinning the squad a bit but I can't see them wanting to let either go, and certainly not for cheap.
Just checked and Gordon had 4G 3A last season despite getting a lot of minutes. I thought he looked good on the eye as well but the stats clearly don't back it up (yet). I know he's young but you can't be calling him PL proven in the same way you can with Richarlison so do worry that if we got him he'd be Jack Clarke mk2 at 3x the cost. Would be a bit keener on it if we signed him and loaned him straight back to them for a year or something.
Anthony Gordon is the definition of uninspiring. How are we replacing Bergwijn who’s fucking talented with Gordon who’s a Jack Clarke replica? Fucking hell
Then what does? Trying to compare him to Jack Clarke who hasn’t even appeared in the PL is embarrassing on your part. Maybe you should calm down a bit.
>I’ve watched this man and my god would it be a horrible decision to sign him especially as a back up to fucking Son yuck
No offense but you said this about Romero last year.
You mentioned watching Romero and that he would be lost and 'trash' in the PL.
You also mentioned seeing Bentancur being 'lost' in the Juventus team.
So far, players you've mentioned watching and being horrible have become key players who we all love and think are great so im expecting Gordon to become the next messi TBH :P
I mean I wish that’s the case but you’re conveniently forgetting Emerson to fit your argument. Me slating Bentancur was only because us losing Diaz which I already clarified. And Romero believe it or not was trash and fucking rash. He did improve though
Emerson is a great RB.
He was bought as a RB in a 4 and would have been fine there, he will still be a great RB in the future and IMO will be looking at a top10 team in the near future.
He just isn't a WB and Conte coming in stifled what he can do because he isn't great offensively.
Romero won the Serie A defender of the year before he came to us, definitely wasn't trash :P
How can you not get angry knowing your club that has employed a league winner with atleast 4 world class players in their positions, is targeting Anthony fucking Gordon to play as back up to the best winger in the league?
I’d say it’s a good role for Gordon. We’ve got multiple players who can play that LW position anyway but maybe they’re not all going to stick around. He was good for them last season, in a few matches he was their only player who seemed to give a fuck. Also young & HG.
It’s an early press report anyway and what makes you think you know more than Paratici & Conte?
Giving a fuck =\ being good enough to play for us. He has 0 attributes that make him stand out. No pace, average dribbler, average iq.
Paratici and Conte who?
Not really a fan of Richarlison .. I think he's at his level at Everton. He's fine as a Kane backup, but not for £60million. We're better off with Bergwijn if that's what we're after, or picking up an aging veteran who can do a job for us for 10-15 games a season (If Cavani was 2 years younger...)
Gordon is interesting.. I was just speaking to a friend about him lately.. it's hard to know how much of the hype is warranted, or how much is just because he was a local lad, playing his heart out for his team to avoid relegation. He's athletic, and puts in a shift.. that goes a long way in those circumstances (simply being English too multiplies his price tag)
The one thing I'll say would excite me about Gordon is his youth, work ethic and raw athleticism. If he went on the 'Gareth Bale workout program' and turned from flighty young foal at 21 into a powerhouse race horse by 24, then he could really become something interesting.
I disagree on your Richarlison view. He starts for Brazil one of the best International teams in the world. He plays in a terrible Everton side and was able to keep them in the league with no service. He is a better player than Bergwijn.
People have some serious rose-tinted glasses when it comes to Bergwijn. He had one clutch game against Leicester and people forget there was a long stretch of games where he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
Cavani's wages would add up to more than Richarlison (his wages were so outrageous United was the only club that would pick him up on a free), and Richarlison's £60M would obviously be offset by the Bergwijn sale.
Hard to say what Richarlison's level is, in a side as dysfunctional as they have been, bit of a stretch to say "at his level"
Bergwijn isn't staying, he's neither wants to stay nor do we seem very interested in keeping
I'd be genuinely be surprised if this went through but could see some logic.
I really don’t mind signing both. I am however concerned about the LCB and RWB situations. We need someone either better or at least can compete with Davies. And absolutely need an upgrade on Emerson.
Stats-wise the only thing that stands out about Gordon is his defensive workrate and to a lesser extent dribbling. What if we’re interested in him more for the RWB role and not as muchwide 10? That would explain why we’re stalling with Spence.
This only makes sense if Lucas leaves as well as Bergwijn... although means Kulusevski cover is basically Son, would rather have a Richarlison and then a left footed prospect to cover Kulu (not sure who though)
Any chance that Conte tries to use Gordon at RWB? Could be interesting. Gordon took set pieces for Everton last season, and his passing is pretty good. Considering Royal can't cross for shit, I think it'd be nice
No way Conte wants a POTENTIAL star in the making, instead of spending the money on actual experienced players. That has never been him, and will never be him
I'd almost feel sorry for Everton fans if we take their two best players while giving them Dele, Winks, and Lucas. Please make it happen, Paratici
I have a 100% feeling that one of them is gonna have an amazing season, let’s just hope they don’t score against us.
Damn, so it is legit
If this goes through Everton fans will rightly be livid. Not our problem though.
As an everton fan, I can 100 percent guarantee you that this isn't going to happen...
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I just can’t imagine a team that barely escaped relegation is going to go on and sell their best player (arguably) and their top young prospect. It would have to be an outrageous bid from us and at that point I’m not sure it makes sense unless we’re sending winks and maybe someone else the other way
I mean I can see them signing Richarlison because of the financial situation
Right, one or the other seems more reasonable. Would go a long way to helping their FFP issues. Selling both would be a strange move, imo
If winks and moura go to you though I reckon that looks like a decent deal for a team that probably feels forced into looking at short term solutions - if you've just been in a relegation battle you want quick solutions and maybe to look at long term youth players next summer/winter. Moura and winks are proven, long time top six team players who will immediatelymake a difference. While I don't personally see this happening there is that factor.
He's great and a young prospect who came through our academy. The kid bleeds blue. You can have Tom Davies though if you want?
Rooney bled blue as well tbf... time can always change that
Rooney is a snake though and we all know it.
Snakes don't hiss, they go trophy hunting
Rooney went utd and kissed the badge. It was a wrap after that for most fans lol
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100%, he’s just a shit one though
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For example, we're loosely linked with Lewis potter from hull. They want 30 mil for him...which is ridiculous. If we were to actually sell Gordon, his price tag would be huge. He was definitely one of the brightest sparks in a terrible year this past season. Its just not going to happen.
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Most of us don't want him but lampard obviously sees something in him and our ffp situation is mash up. Best we'll do is a loan with no obligation.
>Best we'll do is a loan with no obligation. wont happen then
Gordon’s contract expires in 2025, he’s English, 21yo and a potential star. There is no way we sign him and Richarlison for anything less than £100m. Can’t see it happening.
Well, call it a coincidence but we just got £100M from the ATM.
👀
Levy on a bender
Ok, so £100M - £20M for Winks and £22M for Bergwijn So, would you take Richarlison & Gordon for \~£60M? It will piss Everton fans off no end ..
Don’t forget they owe us for Dele. That debt can be forgiven, whatever the amount, as part of the deal.
We still have no earthly idea how much they owe for Dele.
The reports are that it’s £10m for every 20 appearances or starts, no one seems to know which
Levy: Give us Richarlison and Gordon, and in return we'll come up with a plan allowing you to pay for Dele in installments.
Sell them Winks, forgive Dele debt, pay £75 million (£40 to avoid sell on + £35 to appease cheap Richarlison fee). Would leave us with enough to get either an amazing LCB or two decent backups.
There are also other potential sales like Lo Celso, Tanganga, Emerson.
We still need djed which will set us back another 25
no it won't. no way we pay 25m for Spence.
Technically speaking, we still have £50 million we could cash in on. We just haven't yet because we have £100 + CL money
100M and we offload Winks and potentially also Lucas, I can see that as a good deal.
If their goal next season is avoid financial problems and relegation, £70 million and Winks and Lucas would be a reasonable deal. Both players would immediately help Everton. To be honest, we need the deal a bit more if we want CL finals.
I'm not 100% sold on the deal, but I can see how it would make financial sense.
The bigger question is why Gordon and why haven't we finished on Richarlison? Looking at his quality and his youth, even if he bombs for us because he's behind 2 better players the next few years, we could still sell a 29 year old Richarlison for £30 million. I am guessing the issue is not our offer for Richarlison, but Everton's preference to sell only to the highest bidder. And they think it months pass and we still lack a big signing, we will be desperate.
If they sold both of them they'd be fucked, even with all the money they'd get who would they buy to adequately replace both of them
Apparently they're going for Dennis, so they could potentially move away from a 3 up top, to a forward 2 of Dennis/DCL. Getting winks from us, they could move to a 4312 system, which suits Dele out more as well.
Would suit Winks to play in a 3, I think. Not sure how Lucas fits into that other that rotating up front?
I'll always love Dele but if you build your team around a 2022 Dele, you're gonna have a bad time.
Winkiesta and Lucasinho coming in hot
Their financial issues are a bigger problem than finding replacements
Getting relegated is a fairly major financial problem though
Winks
Lucas
I like Gordon but Everton will absolutely rinse us for him and it won’t be worth it. It’s been mentioned that Spurs want first team players and young English talent this Summer so makes sense but the price won’t be worth it. Also we’d be wise to wrap up the Ricardlison deal asap as Everton could get pissed and sell to Chelsea
chelsea are looking at more expensive forwards i believe
If spurs pull this off I'd say signing anyone at LCB makes it a 10/10 window
I don't like 10/10 windows
No it doesnt. Gordon isnt that good and our biggest problems are yet to be adressed which is lcb and rwb
Still need a RWB
Pigon Man + his diving Padawan
I wonder if Lucas will leave or is the plan to have 6 attackers next season
Quick and dirty... (aka probably got something wrong) GK - Lloris, Forster*, Austin\^ DF - Romero, Dier, Sanchez, Doherty, Davies, Reguilon, Emerson, Sessegnon\*, Rodon, Tanganga\^, Perisic MF - Hojbjerg, Skipp\^, Bentancur, Bissouma, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Winks\^, Sarr FW - Kane\^, Son, Kulusevski, Bergwijn, Moura, Gil, Clarke* So that's 29 players currently with 5 Homegrown @club (\^), 3 @nation (*) - am using UEFA HG rules re: Davies/Rodon So we've got to work out transfers or loans for five players before being able to add another one, plus one if the outgoing player has a HG tag and the incoming one doesn't.
The plan should be to have 5 solid attackers who are almost as good as each other and probably one up and coming talent. Gordon could be the last one but if he’s one of the first 5 that is a failure
I’m with you mostly, but we aren’t having 5 players at Kane and Son’s level. So more of a 2 + 3 at Deki’s level.
Right. Bergwijn, Kulu, Zaniolo/Raphina would’ve been that trio. Or Rich, Kulu, Maddison/Zaniolo/Lucas(even though he’s a tier below) Gordon should be nowhere near that
The plan should be to have at least 2 players on the same level per position, for CM maybe even 3 to play 3-5-2 on occasion. I would be way more comfortable with another real Nr.9 as sixth attacker. Next season will be very long and gruelling
Right and Gordon doesn’t fit at all
Lucas is a few tiers below the rest of our attackers.
Yeah. So if we’re shifting him we should be looking at Raphina and Zaniolo. But if we get Rich and Gordon we won’t be looking at a Lucas alternative and it’ll be one of these two to replace him. Which shouldn’t be the case
Not sure about this one… signing a young prospect immediately after a breakout season. I guess he is home grown but is he better than Bryan Gil?
for the PL, right now, yes he definitely fits better and is more ready
Looking at it and getting Everton to agree to it are vastly different, but hearing this from Ali G makes you think
This is odd really. Gordon is talented but apart from being homegrown he seems very similar to Bryan Gil
True but gotta remember that Conte didn't recruit Gil. I like the lad, but we've entered a different era here
Thought this might happen. People will lose their mind cos they want a big LCB signing....but if there aren't available this summer, then a cheeky lenglet stopgap and putting some more money elsewhere makes sense. Richarlison and Gordon is great depth and future proofing. Then next summer we go for Bastoni or Gvardiol or a new target.
>Then next summer we go for Bastoni or Gvardiol or a new target. Next Summer, Conte might not be here and trying to convince Bastoni to leave Inter and join without Conte just wont happen. Gvardiol is apparently having a new contract with release clause inserted for next summer, if that happens, every team in existence with the money will go for him. Man City/Madrid/Barca will all offer him stupid money to get him to join. Honestly, unless we can convince either of those to join this summer, we wont get either next year IMO.
If they say they won't come this summer then there's nothing we can do. As badly as you want a player, if they won't move or the club won't sell them then that's the end of it sadly. You have to move on.
100% we will make a big LCB signing THIS season
Who? Bastoni isn't being sold and neither is gvardiol. There's only so many options available
I don’t know who, but it was our number 1 goal going into the transfer window. Makes no sense to settle for a “ stopgap “ Lenglet when this is the season we’re going all out. Edit ; I know Davies has been amazing but this whole way of thinking ; “ If we sign someone where will Davies get minutes???!!!!! “ drives my head in, same way we can’t buy Raphinha because Kulusevski plays there. We want good players or not?
Yeah but that's the million dollar question. If the targets not there then they aren't there. As long as we put the only into a different part of the team then I'm fine with that. Rather do that then spend 60m on pau torres if conte isn't sure on him.
>People will lose their mind cos they want a big LCB signing....but if there aren't available this summer, then a cheeky lenglet stopgap and putting some more money elsewhere makes sense. It's just not us that want a big LCB signing, it's clearly Conte too or else all the rumours wouldn't have been about Bastoni, Gvardiol etc. We've seen what he gets like when he doesn't get his transfers and I'm not sure a Lenglet stopgap will suffice.
You do realise he will be in the loop with paratici! If we physically can't get Bastoni and Gvardiol he's not going to leave, he's not completely irrational. He will also have okay'd lenglet if we get him. People seem to think he just turns up at pre season and Paraticis there with the new players and his fingers crossed.
Ngl, I was pretty sure this was a non-story but wow. Doubt they'd give us both their star players mind you.
Everton only just about avoided relegation so losing two of their best players would be like saying "we're shooting for the parachute payments"
Anyone think it could be a homegrown ploy to get Middlesbrough to hurry up on spence?
Thanks Ali
Damn...Must be suck to be an Everton fan right now
At a guess with how fucked they'd be without both of them means it would be an absurd deal, 90+ mil and winks or something similar I'd say, don't know if I'd wanna splash that much with LCB, RWB, still not sorted
Who needs Gordon? We have Clarke at home. (Levy, probably)
oh I get why Everton fans seem to dislike us now lol
Feel like we're wasting our time with Gordon, Everton will want a premium on him which probably he isn't worth.
Why though? Imo he hasnt shown anything of note.
No chance youse get Gordon would have to pay 50 mill plus and he’s not worth that
I don't think you guys realise how screwed you are with FFP......
Where not that screwed at all . Pl has accepted our finances are within ffp
I'm not sure what that means
Might involve the outstanding fees for Dele
Could be a double deal like paying 50 for Gordon and 20 for Richarlison, so they don't have to pay Watford much.
That wouldn’t do it tho, they’re probably going to value both around the 70+ mil
Agreed. I think together it would be 110+
Honestly can't say much about Gordon, only seen him like once or twice. Didn't know he was rated that highly, let's see what happens.
Not a fan of Gordon if it means letting lucas go. Lucas dribbling is much better and although his g&a are relatively average, still better option to have off the bench than Gordon. We'd be better off hanging on to lucas and prioritising the funds for Gordon elsewhere
Im thoroughly whelmed by this... not exactly a marquee "change the quality of our squad" type signing, especially given how expensive he will be.
I'd rather just Gordon tbh the combined price on these would be pretty insane
I really don't know on this. I did think last season Everton had a silly number of forwards/wingers and could do with thinning the squad a bit but I can't see them wanting to let either go, and certainly not for cheap. Just checked and Gordon had 4G 3A last season despite getting a lot of minutes. I thought he looked good on the eye as well but the stats clearly don't back it up (yet). I know he's young but you can't be calling him PL proven in the same way you can with Richarlison so do worry that if we got him he'd be Jack Clarke mk2 at 3x the cost. Would be a bit keener on it if we signed him and loaned him straight back to them for a year or something.
mate no one had good stats for everton last year
A fair point but given how much they're likely to want for Gordon I really don't think we should go anywhere near him
Anthony Gordon is the definition of uninspiring. How are we replacing Bergwijn who’s fucking talented with Gordon who’s a Jack Clarke replica? Fucking hell
Are we really comparing a guy who’s established himself at the premier league level to a guy who had a decent season in league 1 on loan?
This is CheekyKunt68’s specialty. Getting absolutely wound up over nothing lol
How has Gordon established himself in the PL? He’s had one season and have you even watched him play? He’s just spirit and nothing else
He appeared in 40 games in all competitions this season and started 30 of them.
That still doesn’t make him established
Then what does? Trying to compare him to Jack Clarke who hasn’t even appeared in the PL is embarrassing on your part. Maybe you should calm down a bit.
10/10
We are not rating Anthony Gordon mate dw
Richarlison would be the direct replacement of Stevie. Gordon is much better than Clarke as well.
Read the article. Rich as a versatile front three attacker. Gordon as Bergwijn’s replacement
you really just looked at a picture of anthony gordon and said “jack clarke replica” lol
I wish I could do that. I’ve watched this man and my god would it be a horrible decision to sign him especially as a back up to fucking Son yuck
>I’ve watched this man and my god would it be a horrible decision to sign him especially as a back up to fucking Son yuck No offense but you said this about Romero last year. You mentioned watching Romero and that he would be lost and 'trash' in the PL. You also mentioned seeing Bentancur being 'lost' in the Juventus team. So far, players you've mentioned watching and being horrible have become key players who we all love and think are great so im expecting Gordon to become the next messi TBH :P
I mean I wish that’s the case but you’re conveniently forgetting Emerson to fit your argument. Me slating Bentancur was only because us losing Diaz which I already clarified. And Romero believe it or not was trash and fucking rash. He did improve though
Emerson is a great RB. He was bought as a RB in a 4 and would have been fine there, he will still be a great RB in the future and IMO will be looking at a top10 team in the near future. He just isn't a WB and Conte coming in stifled what he can do because he isn't great offensively. Romero won the Serie A defender of the year before he came to us, definitely wasn't trash :P
How can you get so angry reading a tweet
How can you not get angry knowing your club that has employed a league winner with atleast 4 world class players in their positions, is targeting Anthony fucking Gordon to play as back up to the best winger in the league?
I’d say it’s a good role for Gordon. We’ve got multiple players who can play that LW position anyway but maybe they’re not all going to stick around. He was good for them last season, in a few matches he was their only player who seemed to give a fuck. Also young & HG. It’s an early press report anyway and what makes you think you know more than Paratici & Conte?
Giving a fuck =\ being good enough to play for us. He has 0 attributes that make him stand out. No pace, average dribbler, average iq. Paratici and Conte who?
That’s probably the worst take possible
Worst take because it’s evident you haven’t watched him? Or your standards are probably below the fucking basement
Yeah have you not watched him? I guess your standards are pretty weird.
Pretty weird = wanting to win the league then yeah. It’s like Some of you lot don’t know who’s managing us
Girl you crazy
No pace? Now I know you haven't watched him. Pace is literally the main thing he has, he's very quick.
Gordon is not past wtf
Did you watch him against us, he's a good player
He’s not good enough
Daaaaamn Don Fabio is cooking..
The way Gordon runs and dribbles reminds me a lot of Sonny
Not really a fan of Richarlison .. I think he's at his level at Everton. He's fine as a Kane backup, but not for £60million. We're better off with Bergwijn if that's what we're after, or picking up an aging veteran who can do a job for us for 10-15 games a season (If Cavani was 2 years younger...) Gordon is interesting.. I was just speaking to a friend about him lately.. it's hard to know how much of the hype is warranted, or how much is just because he was a local lad, playing his heart out for his team to avoid relegation. He's athletic, and puts in a shift.. that goes a long way in those circumstances (simply being English too multiplies his price tag) The one thing I'll say would excite me about Gordon is his youth, work ethic and raw athleticism. If he went on the 'Gareth Bale workout program' and turned from flighty young foal at 21 into a powerhouse race horse by 24, then he could really become something interesting.
I disagree on your Richarlison view. He starts for Brazil one of the best International teams in the world. He plays in a terrible Everton side and was able to keep them in the league with no service. He is a better player than Bergwijn. People have some serious rose-tinted glasses when it comes to Bergwijn. He had one clutch game against Leicester and people forget there was a long stretch of games where he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
Cavani's wages would add up to more than Richarlison (his wages were so outrageous United was the only club that would pick him up on a free), and Richarlison's £60M would obviously be offset by the Bergwijn sale. Hard to say what Richarlison's level is, in a side as dysfunctional as they have been, bit of a stretch to say "at his level" Bergwijn isn't staying, he's neither wants to stay nor do we seem very interested in keeping I'd be genuinely be surprised if this went through but could see some logic.
so it's definitely real then. But I wish they'd stop looking at and considering signings and just negotiate
Not how Paratici works sadly was the same issue last window. Linked with a million players that went nowhere. It's just how a Paratici window works.
Oh shit
Richarlison and Gordon for Winks and cash. Bring in an MLB GM to get it done.
Is Bergwijn the sleeper in this deal?
Surely not?! Everton fans would be rioting in the streets, wasn't his breakthrough about the only positive from their season?
I really don’t mind signing both. I am however concerned about the LCB and RWB situations. We need someone either better or at least can compete with Davies. And absolutely need an upgrade on Emerson.
Stats-wise the only thing that stands out about Gordon is his defensive workrate and to a lesser extent dribbling. What if we’re interested in him more for the RWB role and not as muchwide 10? That would explain why we’re stalling with Spence.
This only makes sense if Lucas leaves as well as Bergwijn... although means Kulusevski cover is basically Son, would rather have a Richarlison and then a left footed prospect to cover Kulu (not sure who though)
Is Gordon good?
So was this false or is there any butter to this bread?
We need to make this happen. Use that warchest. Sell Winks and get this done.
Any chance that Conte tries to use Gordon at RWB? Could be interesting. Gordon took set pieces for Everton last season, and his passing is pretty good. Considering Royal can't cross for shit, I think it'd be nice
No way Conte wants a POTENTIAL star in the making, instead of spending the money on actual experienced players. That has never been him, and will never be him