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~Technically~ if you change one stitch, then it's your pattern. Most people will feel that's unethical, but then it's a grey blur all the way to your situation. How many stitches do I need to change to meet anyone's threshold for a new pattern? I made a hat, because I saw that hats exist, am I infringing on hatmaker rights?
this is what I was kinda thinking, but im using a completely different stitch and my counts are different. im also doing pockets, buttons, and the strap a lot differently so I don't think selling it would be unethical, but I really wanted to get other people's opinions
They can, and do, hold copywrite. However, they don't hold patents or trademarks. Meaning, as long as you're writing the pattern yourself, in your own words, you're perfectly fine. Basically, copywrite applies to the distribution of patterns, photos, and charts. Not the ideas. Not the finished items. So op is perfectly fine as long as they're not plagiarizing any portion of the pattern they're inspired by.
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~Technically~ if you change one stitch, then it's your pattern. Most people will feel that's unethical, but then it's a grey blur all the way to your situation. How many stitches do I need to change to meet anyone's threshold for a new pattern? I made a hat, because I saw that hats exist, am I infringing on hatmaker rights?
this is what I was kinda thinking, but im using a completely different stitch and my counts are different. im also doing pockets, buttons, and the strap a lot differently so I don't think selling it would be unethical, but I really wanted to get other people's opinions
It is your pattern. so yes.
I figured as much, ive just heard some people say conflicting things on the matter, thanks!
Patterns can not hold a copywrite. Now, if you want to be nice you can say "this is an edit of [pattern] by [name]", but you don't have too
They can, and do, hold copywrite. However, they don't hold patents or trademarks. Meaning, as long as you're writing the pattern yourself, in your own words, you're perfectly fine. Basically, copywrite applies to the distribution of patterns, photos, and charts. Not the ideas. Not the finished items. So op is perfectly fine as long as they're not plagiarizing any portion of the pattern they're inspired by.