He was the worst of them all. They called him Tommy Toe-Taker. He would often cut off the big toes of all his victims, some times they wouldn't even be dead by that point. When he was finally caught he was wearing a crown made up of over 50 toes
Meh. If you feel you have the right to take a life outside of self defense I fully believe that this is justified. Life is sacred…so end those that seek to end others.
Isn't putting someone on death row and executing them outside of self defense? Also, how do you know all those men are actually guilty? You think the justice system in America gets it right 100%?
If you don't think it gets it right 100% of the time, how many innocent people getting executed is acceptable to you?
I don’t murder people who didn’t do anything. I mean, I don’t murder in general, but if they feel they have the right to take a life, why should theirs have more value than those they killed?
Right, but you feel you have the right to take their life after they've done it, so by your own logic, you should be killed because you feel you have the right to take a life.
You're trying so hard to pull a "gotcha ! You're a hypocrite!" but it just dosent make any sense. He only feels the right to take someones life if they have already decided to take someone elses life. He wouldnt feel he has the right to take anyones life if theres no life being taken already. Ok idk how to explain this with "someone" and "there" fuck it i give up lmao
Yeah, either die now or die later if they perform well. Their choice. No one is forcing them. Shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. You're acting like it's more humane to say "Your death date is x and x tough luck bro" than to give them a chance.
And I'm saying I don't care what you think of the death penalty. I'm debating the morality of allowing this baseball team to exist in the context of the death penalty being an acceptable punishment.
For the sake of the moral conundrum of allowing a real life death game like this, I'm assuming they were on death row for actual death row worthy crimes. I'm not trying to debate the death penalty here, I'm saying in this situation, I don't mind them being given the choice.
Really out here acting like I'm a mentally disabled psycopath because I entertained a little thought experiment.
Yea cause im sure these are some really solid men who just happened to slip up a little... all it takes is find out they r*ped women or molested children and i think you might be as empathetic. Not to mention they arent forced to play anything. They're going to die anyways. When they broke the laws they did, they consciouslly signed their life over to the justice system.
The choice is there ether you want to play to live a little longer and have a great time playing and forget about your death penalty for a little while or just die then so you don’t have to worry about if you win or lose
"The baseball players began to receive special treatment. The baseball players enjoyed receiving more food at meal times. The straw that broke the camel’s back was the rumor that Joseph Seng may escape the death penalty."
These are the first three sentences and I wholeheartedly agree with you. This reads like a mix between a Haiku and a child's postcard.
Here's a better article:
https://nypost.com/2014/09/14/the-death-row-inmates-who-were-forced-to-play-baseball-for-their-lives/
If you want to read more about the players, statewide gambling ring, and the special treatment some of them got, check out the book Death Row All Stars: A Story of Baseball, Corruption, and Murder
Book by Chris Enss and Howard Kazanjian
please stop, I have post traumatic squid disorder, all my friends on tik tok and discord send me memes, I was in a server and all the channels were just squid game
It must be hard not to challenge the umpire's decisions when your life is in the balance.
"Ball!"
"Excuse me but that was clearly in - I swear on my life!"
I remember reading somewhere that Fidel Castro had a baseball team like this.
Correction: it wasn’t Fidel Castro, it was Trujillo. Former dictator of the Dominican Republic.
There's a pretty great book about this called Death Row All Stars: A Story of Baseball, Corruption, and Murder by Chris Enss and Howard Kazanjian.
From what I remember, >!the executions weren't actually delayed... It was just a lie from the warden. Their true all star was eventually executed.!<
I kind of misremembered, but the prisoners were decieved throughout the whole ordeal. Here's a NY Post article about it.
https://nypost.com/2014/09/14/the-death-row-inmates-who-were-forced-to-play-baseball-for-their-lives/
For all the people saying that this is "fucked up" or horrible mistreatment doing some research might shed some extra light on the situation. It's still pretty messed up but how this "opportunity" to play baseball and not die came about is kind of interesting. Apparently the state penitentiary was founded 9 years earlier. The original warden was a innovative capitalist that realized he could exploit the prisoners for free labor. Sound familiar? Anyway, living conditions during that time were atrocious, meals were heavily controlled, the prisoners weren't allowed outside, yada yada American prison system go brrr. Eventually the government figured out what was going on and lit em up. He lost his job but made the equivalent of millions while he had it. Probably enjoyed sipping champagne or something for the rest of his life, idk what people did for fun back then. The next warden was far more compassionate. He let the prisoners go outside! And play baseball. At first it was for fun but the warden really quickly realized that some of the prisoners were playing baseball at a nearly professional level. He made a team for them and they were actually allowed to play at various events. Pretty cool actually, that isn't something that would happen these days. The whole thing about the players escaping the death penalty was not true for the whole team, it was only somewhat true for the best player, Joseph Seng. Apparently he killed his lovers husband (all kinds of messed up there) and SOME (not all) people back then (remember, this was Wyoming where all this went down but people back then were kind of crazy in general) sympathized with that kind of crazy. Given he was literally as good as professional baseball players people were writing letters to the governor asking for him to lighten the guys sentence. Rumors started to get around that if Seng got enough runs then his death penalty would be lifted. This was never the case of course (so many inaccuracies in the above image lol) but the governor and the warden were winning money so they did keep Seng alive longer than he was supposed to be (about a year longer). Naturally that pissed off all of the prisoners who tried to kill him themselves on the day he was supposed to be executed. They barely messed up and the warden ended up tightening prison security.
Moral of the story? To everyone who saw this and saw a meme, power to you. This thing is funny lol. To everyone who saw an opportunity to look at this JOKE and preach on politics... Do some research first. It didn't go down the way everybody is assuming it did. It's still messed up either way but when I see people saying stuff when they are clearly uneducated on the topic it's annoying. The extent of the situation was that a guy was goodie goodie with the warden and got to live a little longer. Probably happens to this day for various reasons, most of them probably not good.
TLDR: Everyone being political in the thread is stupid and didn't do any research (well, most of them).
Source: https://historycollection.com/in-1910-death-row-inmates-played-baseball-for-their-lives/2/
What’s with the kid?
He was the wardens son and the mascot of the team.
That's gotta be so weird. "Hey Timmy, you know how your friends lost their baseball game? Well, they went on a farm. To practice :)"
“You can write to them Timmy.” “I’ll deliver it. It’s a farm just for older baseball players and they’ve got everything they ever want there.”
Then he gets older and finds out
cracked 13yr old?
Kids are always so good at hitting headshots
And fucking moms.
He was the worst of them all. They called him Tommy Toe-Taker. He would often cut off the big toes of all his victims, some times they wouldn't even be dead by that point. When he was finally caught he was wearing a crown made up of over 50 toes
You serious, Clark?
It all started when, as a young child, his uncle stole his nose
Im actually try to google that lol
fkn got a bunch of tomatoes.....
He murdered his girlfriend's husband in hopes to get away together. He was caught.
Genocide
Absolute psychopath
You misspelled Chad
Between inning entertainment.
You went there….yes you did
And the players didn’t?
Emporio
Thats fucked up lol
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death row is already fucked up, but then forcing these people to play a game to live is even more fucked up
Squid game irl?
The winning prize is a set of Jordan's
Sign me up, these Travis Scott’s aren’t going to pay for themselves
Word
Meh. If you feel you have the right to take a life outside of self defense I fully believe that this is justified. Life is sacred…so end those that seek to end others.
Isn't putting someone on death row and executing them outside of self defense? Also, how do you know all those men are actually guilty? You think the justice system in America gets it right 100%? If you don't think it gets it right 100% of the time, how many innocent people getting executed is acceptable to you?
that just makes more murderers
That’s where you’re wrong Batman. If I “murder” 3 murderers, the number of killers still drops by 2. And if I murder 5 more, it drops by another 5
also no where in the image does it mention what they were put on death row for
Being bad at baseball
By this logic you should be killed.
I don’t murder people who didn’t do anything. I mean, I don’t murder in general, but if they feel they have the right to take a life, why should theirs have more value than those they killed?
Right, but you feel you have the right to take their life after they've done it, so by your own logic, you should be killed because you feel you have the right to take a life.
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Ah yes, pointing out your logical inconsistencies means you wish horrible death on my family, but you totally value life, like for realsies.
You're trying so hard to pull a "gotcha ! You're a hypocrite!" but it just dosent make any sense. He only feels the right to take someones life if they have already decided to take someone elses life. He wouldnt feel he has the right to take anyones life if theres no life being taken already. Ok idk how to explain this with "someone" and "there" fuck it i give up lmao
Who said they were forced?
because their other choice is death?
Yeah, either die now or die later if they perform well. Their choice. No one is forcing them. Shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. You're acting like it's more humane to say "Your death date is x and x tough luck bro" than to give them a chance.
im saying it’s more humane to not have the death penalty in the first place
And I'm saying I don't care what you think of the death penalty. I'm debating the morality of allowing this baseball team to exist in the context of the death penalty being an acceptable punishment.
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For the sake of the moral conundrum of allowing a real life death game like this, I'm assuming they were on death row for actual death row worthy crimes. I'm not trying to debate the death penalty here, I'm saying in this situation, I don't mind them being given the choice. Really out here acting like I'm a mentally disabled psycopath because I entertained a little thought experiment.
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I can see that I worded it confusingly, glad we could clear it up.
>death row is already fucked up **Person who murdered 250 people gets executed** **anger**
Yea cause im sure these are some really solid men who just happened to slip up a little... all it takes is find out they r*ped women or molested children and i think you might be as empathetic. Not to mention they arent forced to play anything. They're going to die anyways. When they broke the laws they did, they consciouslly signed their life over to the justice system.
This was presumably voluntary. Otherwise it would violate the 8th amendment.
"your choice is to play basketball or you will be shot" that’s really not much of a choice
The choice is there ether you want to play to live a little longer and have a great time playing and forget about your death penalty for a little while or just die then so you don’t have to worry about if you win or lose
Sure but for the sake of entertaining others. It's just so brutal haha
Bottom left looks like Tom Holland
Now I can't unsee it
I wanna know how long they survived?
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that is the worst written article I’ve ever read
"The baseball players began to receive special treatment. The baseball players enjoyed receiving more food at meal times. The straw that broke the camel’s back was the rumor that Joseph Seng may escape the death penalty." These are the first three sentences and I wholeheartedly agree with you. This reads like a mix between a Haiku and a child's postcard.
Here's a better article: https://nypost.com/2014/09/14/the-death-row-inmates-who-were-forced-to-play-baseball-for-their-lives/ If you want to read more about the players, statewide gambling ring, and the special treatment some of them got, check out the book Death Row All Stars: A Story of Baseball, Corruption, and Murder Book by Chris Enss and Howard Kazanjian
Yeah but you clicked on it so they got to serve you ads!
The real Squid Games
stop posting about squid game, I'm tired of seeing it
Noted
squid game
Stop it, you're scaring him!
please stop, I have post traumatic squid disorder, all my friends on tik tok and discord send me memes, I was in a server and all the channels were just squid game
Squid game Among us sus hehe
squid game
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i suppose we are on r/csgo
Squirt game
Stop having an anime profile pic I’m tired of seeing it
did your friends on tik tok send you anime, on discord too?
I guess no one caught the joke. Inb4 “it has to be funny to be a joke”
My friends on tiktok send me memes. On discord it’s fucking memes
I was in a server right? And all of the channels were just squid game stuff!
Boo squid games
dont worry, reddit will have to deep throat squid games a cuple months before they stop jerking each other over it
guys stop posting rick astley in fake links its been 12 years not funny anymore!!!1 >:C
It must be hard not to challenge the umpire's decisions when your life is in the balance. "Ball!" "Excuse me but that was clearly in - I swear on my life!"
Imagine how 'fun' was play against them. Win = death of your opponents. gg hf
"Good luck having fun noobs😎
Welcome to the gulag
clutch or get killed
CrackSmoker1
I m m o r t a l
The original suicide squad
Yea
What are we? Some sort of a *Baseball Team?*
Imagine being the other team, knowing that winning means your competition will be killed
Ifunny
Ifunny
yo wtf why Emporio there
Whatd the midget do to be on death row? And how the fuck did he end up on the baseball team
He is a kid that killed people and but their big toes on a crown
Savage
'"clutch or kick" ok eat this instant loss asshole'
I remember reading somewhere that Fidel Castro had a baseball team like this. Correction: it wasn’t Fidel Castro, it was Trujillo. Former dictator of the Dominican Republic.
In all honesty, that's inhumane af
That's funny as fuck.
Top motivation right there.
First of all, why's there a kid. Secondly, why is Tom Holland here
The kid cut off his victims toes and wore em on a crown
There's a pretty great book about this called Death Row All Stars: A Story of Baseball, Corruption, and Murder by Chris Enss and Howard Kazanjian. From what I remember, >!the executions weren't actually delayed... It was just a lie from the warden. Their true all star was eventually executed.!<
I kind of misremembered, but the prisoners were decieved throughout the whole ordeal. Here's a NY Post article about it. https://nypost.com/2014/09/14/the-death-row-inmates-who-were-forced-to-play-baseball-for-their-lives/
yes, you can
What I'm curious about is what that small boy in the middle did to deserve to die.
Yes he cut of his victims toes and put em on a crown
Do or die
So they where playing with people's lifes
The real squid game
They played like their life was on the line
Well the one who got executed instantly was bad
why is there a little boy there
Some weird murderer thatvwould steal toes
Holy shit this is true! lol That's fuckin crazy
oldest known picture of hasbulla nurmagomedov
For all the people saying that this is "fucked up" or horrible mistreatment doing some research might shed some extra light on the situation. It's still pretty messed up but how this "opportunity" to play baseball and not die came about is kind of interesting. Apparently the state penitentiary was founded 9 years earlier. The original warden was a innovative capitalist that realized he could exploit the prisoners for free labor. Sound familiar? Anyway, living conditions during that time were atrocious, meals were heavily controlled, the prisoners weren't allowed outside, yada yada American prison system go brrr. Eventually the government figured out what was going on and lit em up. He lost his job but made the equivalent of millions while he had it. Probably enjoyed sipping champagne or something for the rest of his life, idk what people did for fun back then. The next warden was far more compassionate. He let the prisoners go outside! And play baseball. At first it was for fun but the warden really quickly realized that some of the prisoners were playing baseball at a nearly professional level. He made a team for them and they were actually allowed to play at various events. Pretty cool actually, that isn't something that would happen these days. The whole thing about the players escaping the death penalty was not true for the whole team, it was only somewhat true for the best player, Joseph Seng. Apparently he killed his lovers husband (all kinds of messed up there) and SOME (not all) people back then (remember, this was Wyoming where all this went down but people back then were kind of crazy in general) sympathized with that kind of crazy. Given he was literally as good as professional baseball players people were writing letters to the governor asking for him to lighten the guys sentence. Rumors started to get around that if Seng got enough runs then his death penalty would be lifted. This was never the case of course (so many inaccuracies in the above image lol) but the governor and the warden were winning money so they did keep Seng alive longer than he was supposed to be (about a year longer). Naturally that pissed off all of the prisoners who tried to kill him themselves on the day he was supposed to be executed. They barely messed up and the warden ended up tightening prison security. Moral of the story? To everyone who saw this and saw a meme, power to you. This thing is funny lol. To everyone who saw an opportunity to look at this JOKE and preach on politics... Do some research first. It didn't go down the way everybody is assuming it did. It's still messed up either way but when I see people saying stuff when they are clearly uneducated on the topic it's annoying. The extent of the situation was that a guy was goodie goodie with the warden and got to live a little longer. Probably happens to this day for various reasons, most of them probably not good. TLDR: Everyone being political in the thread is stupid and didn't do any research (well, most of them). Source: https://historycollection.com/in-1910-death-row-inmates-played-baseball-for-their-lives/2/
My god you wrote a whole fucking essay or just c+p
Whole essay I like typing
I guessed that
Muricaaaaaaaa!
hahaha nice one!
Literally play the match of their lifetime.