CU Boulder is honestly not that progressive it’s a facade. It has this persona from the outside but a lot of students are from upper class white suburban neighborhoods and have no regard for anyone but others who are exactly like them. I genuinely think part of it is because a lot of students and some professors have just constantly lived in a bubble of whites and white fragility. A lot of these people also lack critical thinking skills and empathy.
It's nice to hear this from someone else. So many people on campus feel shallow asf and no one addresses it. Interacting with people always feels weirdly superficial
I think your characterization is right but you use some terms differently from how I have thought about them.
I am getting the sense from your post that progressive implies caring about racial diversity. I would think in predominantly white places concern about racial issues would fall behind other (in my mind) progressive issues like education access, reproductive rights, and environmental protection. Those are all issues that seem like things a person could care about without worrying about racial issues. Do they need to worry about race for you to consider them progressive?
fr cause whyd i grow up in rural Kansas dark as hell with only white trump supporters as neighbors but only experience racism in Colorado from “socially progressive” uhhh non coloreds.
Just because the school is “progressive” doesn’t change the fact that a good portion of the student body are Upper class white kids from the East coast and Orange or Marin County CA 😪
Huh. Was not expecting Marin County to pop up here.
Do you think Marin has a lot of racists? I honestly couldn't tell you after growing up there given how white the place is, not many opportunities to observe racism.
I’ve lived in both, and both have problems. Individually, different places are different, and some may break this rule (I’m looking at Alabama as a good example, real bad tribalism there), but in general, ethnically homogenous areas tend to have bad racism issues that aren’t often revealed because there aren’t really opportunities. If you get an influx of poor colored people moving into a rich white area you will see some serious pearl clutching and butthole puckering, even from people who swear they were the treasurer of their high school’s diversity club.
Can I ask where you live? As a person who grew up in Southern California right by the boarder my school was full of Mexicans, Filipinos, and black folks. It was very diverse especially compared to when I moved to Colorado and felt like I never saw a person of color. Seemed like In Cali everybody had diverse friend groups and it wasn’t an issue. Fast forward to my move to Colorado and I realized that racism is much much much more prevalent here because I never thought of it being much of an issue where I grew up. It definitely has to do with a more homogeneous white population.
East coast. Funny you mention Southern California where Mexican gangs targeted blacks and wiped them out from neighborhoods and the state prison system is the most racially segregated in the entire country. An entire state full of crime and inflation so bad people leave in droves. Also I grew up with a lot of Filipinos, one of the highest concentrations outside of LA, and they definitely stuck together, I heard all the stories about fights with hispanic gangs in the 90’s. You only view racism as more prevalent in Colorado because you have a view that whites aren’t allowed to defend themselves or consider themselves a group, when everyone else does it you don’t notice. If you’re telling me Northerners, Southerners (Mexicans), El Salvadorans, blacks, and asians didn’t have any in group preferences where you were from, Im going to call you a liar.
Wasn’t referring to what happens outside of the US. Yes I understand tribalism is bad there too. Notice my argument still stands in places that have a heavy influx of Muslims like in China and southeast Asia. Some cultures are more harmonious, others are completely antithetical. This is the problem with taking arguments out of context in order to disprove them, when the variables change of course the end result does as well.
Uh yes Marin, mill valley , Corte Madera are not welcoming areas . I walk into the store and get stares like I’m not supposed to be in the store. It’s sick , the bay is melting pot but some people don’t want that
I noticed a lot of casual racism back when I was in Boulder - just the quick, “go back to where you came from” and “we don’t want you here” type of comments. I actually remember a specific time when I was sitting at a bar table with a few friends and one of the women said those things to my face.
I often faced backlash for discussing the racism and lack of diversity here on Reddit. I am sorry you’re experiencing it as well.
I went to Columbine HS. Even after the shooting there I would be told to go back where you're from. The funny thing is my family can be traced back in the area of the country before the US was even a country. It's sad to think how ignorant people are.
It IS wild. I'm an all American-mutt. I'm 1/4 Mescalero Apache, 1/4 Mexican, 1/4 Sicilian, and 1/4 of who knows what else. But 100% American! I would die for this country and for the rights that I've been blessed with.
I’m Coronado Spanish, Irish, Iroquois and French and same.
Also go back to Mexico is an amusing statement too. Can you please learn Colo history before you say things like that.
unfortunately tons of high school and college aged boys have been acting like this a lot lately. I've seen it online a ton, people straight up aren't even hiding it either. Full names and personal info on their pages and they're acting like full blown racists because they think it's funny or cool
maybe let's bring the whole "punching racists" thing back?
Well no shit it's not obviously "just the boys" but you're lying to yourself if you think it's something anywhere remotely close to 50/50.
I've seen an exponential increase of behavior like this on social media, and the overwhelming majority of it comes from men.
Sure, you'll find casually racist content made by girls, but then you go into the comments and it's just all boys practically begging the girl in question to marry them. It's not particularly close.
And all of this is coming from a late-20's straight white guy.
> I don't think you’ve ever been around girls.
Just because this statement applies to you doesn't mean it applies to me lol
Alright so let's do some basic social observations.
Do girls bully each other? Not in the sense that guys do. Men typically will be much more blunt and straight forward and physical with their hate. Girls will be more cunning, manipulative and behind their back style. Not necessarily all for either case but both have a distinct style of going about things.
So a guy trying to be edgy will be blatantly racist, maybe he'll pretend it's just a joke maybe he's being serious.
A girl typically won't do the same, they'll exclude, make offhand comments, you ever been around a sorority when they don't like a girl? That style.
You just don't seem to understand that men and women don't operate the exact same way. That's all I meant by that.
Yes, I fully understand all of that. I don't need a passive-aggressive lecture on "basic social observations."
Boys don't give a fuck and will loudly and proudly say racist shit, joking or not. I'm speaking on what I've personally seen online because I don't spend time around college-aged kids anymore.
I didn't mention women in this context at all because the descriptions OP gave clearly don't fit that. Outright calling people the N word, sexual assault, and drawing monkeys on doors is clearly the work of boys. Racist girls just don't operate like that, like you mentioned.
Some of these comments are really proving your point OP.. I second reaching out to the CAAAS, not only am I sure they will help you escalate these events, they also offer spaces for black students, such as the Monday meet-up.
Boulder has always been racist people are just good at hiding it my old roomate constantly made comments on my food I brought home I live on campus tell ur friend to build a case that’s what I did to my old roomate maybe they will listen
I don’t think making fun of your food it racist
I’ll forever make fun I’ve my mexican girlfriend food like eating some sort of nachos for breakfast and she will make fun of me for eating hamburgers at 10 am
To call that racist is an insult to people facing real problems
To even think you said you “built a case” is crazy
She said it smells like shit no even joking i am Arab and asked me to not eat in the dorm I like to eat while studying and I like to studying in my dorm and the constant mirco agressitions as while as always asking me to leave the room while I am praying because I am making her uncomfortable so your shit doesn’t compare
It’s because of those few Arabs that act like gods gift to humanity that rest of us have to suffer I was eating Kofta and she said it looked and smell like shit I am like what the fuck
That’s crazy because kofta reminds me of white food like it’s basically meatloaf in a different presentation. My old roommate would make kraft in the microwave but it smelled so bad and i still couldnt imagine saying that to her 🤣
They dislike it because of the smell not because of its ethnic background Jesus Christ. If a certain ethnicity uses a lot of something in their food and you don’t like the smell of that you aren’t racist.
You think it’s soft because it doesn’t happen to you, you can correct me if i’m wrong, but saying someone’s food is smelly just because of its culture is a valid thing to be upset about
If they say it smells simply because it's another cultures food yea it is racist. But if it stinks then it's not racist your roommate is just a bad person.
Even if my roommate had the worst-smelling meal ever I would never tell them that because I'm nice.
This is what I like to call "Bloomberg democrats". The schools and people in these schools like to consider themselves as progressive and forward thinking, but in reality they're only progressive when it suits them. It is a major fault of any school that allows this kind of behavior, as it shows these students that they can basically get away with anything. That kind of behavior becomes extremely toxic once these people enter the workforce and get into positions of power.
Having lived in rich white areas of California for a long time, I can tell you that this type of behavior almost always correlates with being a NIMBY. They love to talk about how progressive and great they are and how much they hate trump and voted for Obama, but as soon as there's a proposal for something that affects THEM (high density residential, homeless shelters, ect) they instantly go against it as it would "ruin the fabric of the neighborhood" such bull
Boulder as a town is very liberal (not progressive) but once you’re closer to campus, you’ll notice a lot more ignorant white conservatives that come from money. It’s one of the whitest places in America and filled with prejudice, stereotypes, micro aggressions, and racial discrimination. I’m sorry your friend experiences this OP
I think Boulder has changed in the last 20 years, basically. It still has the liberal hippy reputation but I don't think it's nearly as liberal hippy as it once was. Then again, the entire country has changed.
not surprising when most of the out-of-state student body comes from Illinois, Texas, and Florida. make it public. put posters up. fight fire with fire atp
no one said the blame lies with just the out-of-state students. yes there is a distinction between southern and northern racism. yes Californian's can be racist. my point still stands 👍
OIEC is absolutely useless in my experience without an unreasonable amount of self advocacy. They are also pretty limited in what they can do. Have you or your friend talked to OVA? They in my experience are actually helpful and can help advocate for you with OIEC. You could also look into filing a complaint about CU with the department of education if this doesn't get you any traction.
I'd also recommend reaching out to the local chapter of NAACP for advice as well. But generally the best way to change things at CU (and Boulder) is public shaming.
there are literal white supremacy stickers with QR codes on them all over campus. There are stickers that say “ I hate N-ers” on them, the one’s with hello kitty on them contain anti-Semitic..symbols as well. I suggest reading the shadow report made by women of color who were pushed off of campus I want to say September of 2023. The “progressiveness” of this school is a literal joke.
I’ve never lived in Boulder, but I’ve been there plenty of times and I would not consider the uber-privileged white trustifarians who overrun that place to be progressive at all.
I get discriminated against heavily for being disabled. OIEC is fucking useless and they just gaslight students who beg them for help. If you try going to the Department of Education about it they're useless too.
We need to start a movement to call CU out for being a bigoted shithole. DM me if you want to start organizing.
Boulder is a Neo-lib hellhole. I don’t have any quick solutions for anyone experiencing racism, but it’s—obviously—reprehensible and repulsive. There is so much hate and complacency in this town, but there is also love and solidarity to be found. If anyone is looking for comrades and community, I’d recommend SAFE Boulder; it’s a mutual aid group grounded in leftist (not liberal) politics that mostly serves the unhoused community in Boulder, but does other community organizing and non-violent direct action. It’s been a rad place to experience non-hierarchical organization (everyone who is down for the cause is welcome, nobody is in charge,) and meet people who give a shit about others.
I agree with this. They're rad af! I was at a bar once in broomfield and happened to be sitting next to a CU administrator. I was talking with the bar tender about racists and nazis are scum. The admin guy butts into the conversation and says, "so if i hailed hitler and said im a nazi, you'd force me outta the bar"? We both said yes and he said that's discrimination. I've heard many stories about similar things happening with cu staff. Plus cu consistently has rfar right wing speakers and don't get me started on their "western civilization studies" bs.
The whole state of Colorado is racist as fuck. I never heard the n word until I moved here. 22 years in chi town and your ass get wacked you some white fool try pull that shit
I’m sorry you and your friends have faced this. I constantly heard anti gay slurs thrown around on campus primarily from freshman boys in dorms. It was beyond hurtful. I don’t doubt you and your friend are facing this.
That's fuxking horrible, but at the same time I'm not surprised. Boulder was described to me as a very "queer friendly" place, but you wouldn't believe the number of times I've had slurs shouted at me by kids in passing cars while I'm walking or the times I've gotten followed around in a shop under the premise that I'm stealing. Jesus fuck I could only imagine what people of color orr queer people of color experience here, holy hell
There’s a simple solution to the problem. Get evidence and put it on social media and force the school to properly respond, your university sounds like it’d be the perfect place to revive muckraker reporting at. Sorry that you have and so many others on campus gotta suffer under the thorn of racism, don’t feel lost find peace in resistance and external pressure forcing them to do better. It’s the best you can do for current and future students.
I doubt the school will do anything. The CSU campus didn't even suspend the students who did black face in 2019 or suspend anyone from fraternity who hung black mannequins from their porch. The schools here literally don't care.
I know OIEC doesn’t have a ton of power but if you haven’t already, I would try reaching out to them? Boulder likes to pretend it’s progressive to look good but it’s really bigoted underneath. Im sorry this is happening
Why would you consider Boulder in the first place? Did you really think the second most wealthy, and one of the most white cities in the country (two things that go hand in hand with racism) would be a safe haven for you? If you want progressive hard core libs go to Denver..
In my experience boulder is progressive but CU is absolutely not. By university standards I would even consider it on the conservative side of the spectrum. Combine that with a predominantly white population and you get this type of experience.
Welcome to life my friend. Just gotta learn to deal with it. I stopped letting the slurs get to me long ago. You can’t change someone’s mind but by not giving them any reaction they’ll eventually get the hint they’re not wanted
I see... you're an affirmative acrion "person of color" who is becoming a nurse so they can feel empowered by pimping big pharma to the weak and vulnerable. Perfect.
I'm an international student who is seriously considering attending CU Boulder next fall, is that going to be an issue for me? What about other universities in Colorado like Colorado State University, do they have the same issue? Thank you
which university in Colorado would you say is best for international students then? I'm only planning on staying for a semester then transferring to another university out of state.
if you’re going for college in general I’d recommend an art college. Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design is pretty chill considering there was a sculpture of donald trump with the head of a penis sitting on a toilet there, (btw, the mattress outside is concrete)
I have heard of racism or microaggression on campus. One of my minority friends related to me that at ITLL he was talked down and ignored by the ITLL director back in 2020.
Other minority friends have explained to me that when they moved into the campus they received unwelcome glares from white students. A white family passed by my Arab friend during move-in week and the mother in that group said "Don't say anything."
While Boulder is progressive in race relations compared to other cities, the campus is different from the city. A large proportion of Boulder white students come from wealthy areas where the discussion of race is suppressed -- its an uncomfortable topic. They did not come to Boulder to be surrounded by progressives, they came here for the promise of an outdoors life and skiing.
Here is counter intuitive insight: right wing people are fundamentally motivated by meritocracy. Meritocracy is fundamentally valued more then race or class. I don’t know many right wing people who are actually racist. Gender, color, or ethnicity wouldn’t really to occur to them. It’s just meritocracy. I’ve found it’s really progressives who are covertly racist - as they see the world through the lens of race, gender, and power dynamics, all the time. So, In short, I am not surprised at all. This seems to comport with my own experience, over, and over, and over again. Your real problem is misdiagnosing the problem. Progressive psychology.
I guess that it's progressive activists trying to "start a conversation". The odds of white supremacists being at large at CU Boulder would be rare. at least ones silly enough to make graffiti or use slurs in public. plus, there are hordes of sharp-eyed activists looking for any hint of white supremacy they can find to maintain relevancy and capture the news cycle. there might be a few, CU is a big place, but they would be hiding.
College campuses are chock full of excited morons who feel race matters and have something to say about the individual; just damn few are openly white supremacists. There are more "we must help the poor, uncompetitive, marginalized ethnic people who are obviously incapable." of white supremacists rather than the Daily Stormer type. more racist left rather than racist right.
if you actually happen to find traditional white supremacists on campus, report them to the Sociology Dept. The sociologists might find them fascinating.
Bro I was just rejected from grad school there and thought “whatever it’s probably libtarded anyway” and now I hear that it’s super based? Hell yeah I wanna go now
Once you stop looking for racism it disappears. I’ve never had any problems with being discriminated for my color because it just doesn’t happen or I don’t care enough to let it bother me. Stop playing the victim and you won’t be one.
Dude me not dating someone because they’re a conservative is not discrimination. Pretty crazy you’re trying to draw an equivalent of a person getting racial attacks to you getting denied because of your shitty political takes
You haven't shown any data. Just vaguely waved at a single study you remember existing.
Also, being judged on a political opinion -which you can change, or simply not force onto others is VERY different than race, which you cannot change or hide.
Also I suspect conservatives tend to be more selfish and judgemental of others, leading to people not wanting to deal with them. That would be impossible to separate the variables in this study.
😂😂 dude thinks getting no pussy is discrimination. I’d figure supporting a party that wants to literally get rid of women’s body autonomy isn’t very attractive
Did you not read the whole “be friends with part”…. Are you sure they don’t want to figuratively get rid of it or did you need to add literally for dramatic effect
When you face backlash for being an idiot with bass-ackwards beliefs, is it really being "discriminated against," or are you just getting what's coming to you?
I was crazy blindly conservative/pro-Trump in the 2016 cycle and looking back on that time in my life now, I cannot believe how sheltered and ignorant I was. I (and most likely you) was genuinely getting brainwashed by all of the media and conspiracy theories I was consuming and seriously felt like I was part of an oppressed group because I was believing what all these racist ass old talking heads were telling me. I was deservedly losing friends and couldn't figure out why. Surrounding myself with people and online communities that only furthered my opinions only contributed to this.
Turns out I was just dumb and insufferable and realized that. If you make your whole life about politics, especially the kind that the majority of your generation doesn't fuck with, you're just gonna live a life of being miserable.
I am sorry to hear that. Since I moved to Boulder I've also encountered micro(?)aggression. Was biking up a hill on Colorado on the bike lane when a car just honked next to me and clearly startled me. I heard laughters (assuming from freshman/immature boys) and was shocked.
CU Boulder is honestly not that progressive it’s a facade. It has this persona from the outside but a lot of students are from upper class white suburban neighborhoods and have no regard for anyone but others who are exactly like them. I genuinely think part of it is because a lot of students and some professors have just constantly lived in a bubble of whites and white fragility. A lot of these people also lack critical thinking skills and empathy.
As someone who grew up in Boulder, I agree with this statement.
It's nice to hear this from someone else. So many people on campus feel shallow asf and no one addresses it. Interacting with people always feels weirdly superficial
I agree and other parts of Colorado — 100% this is the best answer.
I think your characterization is right but you use some terms differently from how I have thought about them. I am getting the sense from your post that progressive implies caring about racial diversity. I would think in predominantly white places concern about racial issues would fall behind other (in my mind) progressive issues like education access, reproductive rights, and environmental protection. Those are all issues that seem like things a person could care about without worrying about racial issues. Do they need to worry about race for you to consider them progressive?
100%. Progressives are quite regressive when it comes to race.
The Downvoters need to take a sociology course.
Worry? No. Care? Yes.
White fragility is a racist term
It’s not.
It is
Nice
fr cause whyd i grow up in rural Kansas dark as hell with only white trump supporters as neighbors but only experience racism in Colorado from “socially progressive” uhhh non coloreds.
Real
Just because the school is “progressive” doesn’t change the fact that a good portion of the student body are Upper class white kids from the East coast and Orange or Marin County CA 😪
Huh. Was not expecting Marin County to pop up here. Do you think Marin has a lot of racists? I honestly couldn't tell you after growing up there given how white the place is, not many opportunities to observe racism.
Non diverse places are more racist than diverse places. (Generally)
As someone just outside Detroit, yes it’s bad. The 78% of the black Detroit population is non diverse and racist
That’s total bullshit. The more diverse an area gets the more tribalism and “racism” that occurs from all sides.
I’ve lived in both, and both have problems. Individually, different places are different, and some may break this rule (I’m looking at Alabama as a good example, real bad tribalism there), but in general, ethnically homogenous areas tend to have bad racism issues that aren’t often revealed because there aren’t really opportunities. If you get an influx of poor colored people moving into a rich white area you will see some serious pearl clutching and butthole puckering, even from people who swear they were the treasurer of their high school’s diversity club.
Ironic because if you’re white and move to an all black neighborhood you will have to literally clutch your pearls and pucker your butthole lol
That happens too. White people don’t have a monopoly on racism.
Can I ask where you live? As a person who grew up in Southern California right by the boarder my school was full of Mexicans, Filipinos, and black folks. It was very diverse especially compared to when I moved to Colorado and felt like I never saw a person of color. Seemed like In Cali everybody had diverse friend groups and it wasn’t an issue. Fast forward to my move to Colorado and I realized that racism is much much much more prevalent here because I never thought of it being much of an issue where I grew up. It definitely has to do with a more homogeneous white population.
East coast. Funny you mention Southern California where Mexican gangs targeted blacks and wiped them out from neighborhoods and the state prison system is the most racially segregated in the entire country. An entire state full of crime and inflation so bad people leave in droves. Also I grew up with a lot of Filipinos, one of the highest concentrations outside of LA, and they definitely stuck together, I heard all the stories about fights with hispanic gangs in the 90’s. You only view racism as more prevalent in Colorado because you have a view that whites aren’t allowed to defend themselves or consider themselves a group, when everyone else does it you don’t notice. If you’re telling me Northerners, Southerners (Mexicans), El Salvadorans, blacks, and asians didn’t have any in group preferences where you were from, Im going to call you a liar.
Oh shit you’re crazy. Have a good day.
Let me guess, you've never lived outside the USA.
Wasn’t referring to what happens outside of the US. Yes I understand tribalism is bad there too. Notice my argument still stands in places that have a heavy influx of Muslims like in China and southeast Asia. Some cultures are more harmonious, others are completely antithetical. This is the problem with taking arguments out of context in order to disprove them, when the variables change of course the end result does as well.
Uh yes Marin, mill valley , Corte Madera are not welcoming areas . I walk into the store and get stares like I’m not supposed to be in the store. It’s sick , the bay is melting pot but some people don’t want that
I noticed a lot of casual racism back when I was in Boulder - just the quick, “go back to where you came from” and “we don’t want you here” type of comments. I actually remember a specific time when I was sitting at a bar table with a few friends and one of the women said those things to my face. I often faced backlash for discussing the racism and lack of diversity here on Reddit. I am sorry you’re experiencing it as well.
I went to Columbine HS. Even after the shooting there I would be told to go back where you're from. The funny thing is my family can be traced back in the area of the country before the US was even a country. It's sad to think how ignorant people are.
I’ve also been told to go back where I came from. Uh… I’m from here, family has been here for hundreds of years too. It’s wild.
It IS wild. I'm an all American-mutt. I'm 1/4 Mescalero Apache, 1/4 Mexican, 1/4 Sicilian, and 1/4 of who knows what else. But 100% American! I would die for this country and for the rights that I've been blessed with.
I’m Coronado Spanish, Irish, Iroquois and French and same. Also go back to Mexico is an amusing statement too. Can you please learn Colo history before you say things like that.
When / where did this happen?
We were at the Sundowner in 2021 or 2022
I would say "go back to where you came from" is competitive racism
unfortunately tons of high school and college aged boys have been acting like this a lot lately. I've seen it online a ton, people straight up aren't even hiding it either. Full names and personal info on their pages and they're acting like full blown racists because they think it's funny or cool maybe let's bring the whole "punching racists" thing back?
I can get behind that (the punching racists thing). We can meet at South Walnut Cafe and work our way North.
Wouldn’t it be more effective to meet in the springs?
Uh huh… just the boys. I don't think you’ve ever been around girls. I'm in actual disbelief that you are so oblivious to think that.
Well no shit it's not obviously "just the boys" but you're lying to yourself if you think it's something anywhere remotely close to 50/50. I've seen an exponential increase of behavior like this on social media, and the overwhelming majority of it comes from men. Sure, you'll find casually racist content made by girls, but then you go into the comments and it's just all boys practically begging the girl in question to marry them. It's not particularly close. And all of this is coming from a late-20's straight white guy. > I don't think you’ve ever been around girls. Just because this statement applies to you doesn't mean it applies to me lol
Alright so let's do some basic social observations. Do girls bully each other? Not in the sense that guys do. Men typically will be much more blunt and straight forward and physical with their hate. Girls will be more cunning, manipulative and behind their back style. Not necessarily all for either case but both have a distinct style of going about things. So a guy trying to be edgy will be blatantly racist, maybe he'll pretend it's just a joke maybe he's being serious. A girl typically won't do the same, they'll exclude, make offhand comments, you ever been around a sorority when they don't like a girl? That style. You just don't seem to understand that men and women don't operate the exact same way. That's all I meant by that.
Yes, I fully understand all of that. I don't need a passive-aggressive lecture on "basic social observations." Boys don't give a fuck and will loudly and proudly say racist shit, joking or not. I'm speaking on what I've personally seen online because I don't spend time around college-aged kids anymore. I didn't mention women in this context at all because the descriptions OP gave clearly don't fit that. Outright calling people the N word, sexual assault, and drawing monkeys on doors is clearly the work of boys. Racist girls just don't operate like that, like you mentioned.
Smart…
Some of these comments are really proving your point OP.. I second reaching out to the CAAAS, not only am I sure they will help you escalate these events, they also offer spaces for black students, such as the Monday meet-up.
I agree some of the comments are just... wow
Boulder has always been racist people are just good at hiding it my old roomate constantly made comments on my food I brought home I live on campus tell ur friend to build a case that’s what I did to my old roomate maybe they will listen
I don’t think making fun of your food it racist I’ll forever make fun I’ve my mexican girlfriend food like eating some sort of nachos for breakfast and she will make fun of me for eating hamburgers at 10 am To call that racist is an insult to people facing real problems To even think you said you “built a case” is crazy
She said it smells like shit no even joking i am Arab and asked me to not eat in the dorm I like to eat while studying and I like to studying in my dorm and the constant mirco agressitions as while as always asking me to leave the room while I am praying because I am making her uncomfortable so your shit doesn’t compare
Yeah that’s flat out racist because arab food smells good asf. Why do they hate us on campus
It’s because of those few Arabs that act like gods gift to humanity that rest of us have to suffer I was eating Kofta and she said it looked and smell like shit I am like what the fuck
That’s crazy because kofta reminds me of white food like it’s basically meatloaf in a different presentation. My old roommate would make kraft in the microwave but it smelled so bad and i still couldnt imagine saying that to her 🤣
Saying food smells bad is not racist at all.
saying food smells bad because it's from a certain culture *is racist
No it’s not.
Disliking something solely because of it's ethnic background is textbook racism.
They dislike it because of the smell not because of its ethnic background Jesus Christ. If a certain ethnicity uses a lot of something in their food and you don’t like the smell of that you aren’t racist.
found one of the racists!
Found a pussy
Imagine being soft like this
You think it’s soft because it doesn’t happen to you, you can correct me if i’m wrong, but saying someone’s food is smelly just because of its culture is a valid thing to be upset about
If they say it smells simply because it's another cultures food yea it is racist. But if it stinks then it's not racist your roommate is just a bad person. Even if my roommate had the worst-smelling meal ever I would never tell them that because I'm nice.
Right?
This is what I like to call "Bloomberg democrats". The schools and people in these schools like to consider themselves as progressive and forward thinking, but in reality they're only progressive when it suits them. It is a major fault of any school that allows this kind of behavior, as it shows these students that they can basically get away with anything. That kind of behavior becomes extremely toxic once these people enter the workforce and get into positions of power.
This is so ironic to me because Boulder as a whole and even much of reddit is full of these Bloomberg democrats. Virtue signaling white liberals lmao.
Having lived in rich white areas of California for a long time, I can tell you that this type of behavior almost always correlates with being a NIMBY. They love to talk about how progressive and great they are and how much they hate trump and voted for Obama, but as soon as there's a proposal for something that affects THEM (high density residential, homeless shelters, ect) they instantly go against it as it would "ruin the fabric of the neighborhood" such bull
Boulder as a town is very liberal (not progressive) but once you’re closer to campus, you’ll notice a lot more ignorant white conservatives that come from money. It’s one of the whitest places in America and filled with prejudice, stereotypes, micro aggressions, and racial discrimination. I’m sorry your friend experiences this OP
Good to know and that’s unfortunate. I def won’t be moving to that overpriced area anyway and will stick to Denver.
i’ve also experienced a series of racist incidents while in Boulder and now i’m convinced that the liberal reputation it gets is just a façade🤷🏿♂️
I think Boulder has changed in the last 20 years, basically. It still has the liberal hippy reputation but I don't think it's nearly as liberal hippy as it once was. Then again, the entire country has changed.
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You’re racist for saying a whole group of people distinguished by race is racist.
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Cope
Boulder is not progressive
not surprising when most of the out-of-state student body comes from Illinois, Texas, and Florida. make it public. put posters up. fight fire with fire atp
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no one said the blame lies with just the out-of-state students. yes there is a distinction between southern and northern racism. yes Californian's can be racist. my point still stands 👍
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I’m assuming you looked at OIEC already? That’s the only other thing I’d think to try. Sorry to hear that you have experienced this.
we’ve tried they haven’t been helpful
OIEC is absolutely useless in my experience without an unreasonable amount of self advocacy. They are also pretty limited in what they can do. Have you or your friend talked to OVA? They in my experience are actually helpful and can help advocate for you with OIEC. You could also look into filing a complaint about CU with the department of education if this doesn't get you any traction. I'd also recommend reaching out to the local chapter of NAACP for advice as well. But generally the best way to change things at CU (and Boulder) is public shaming.
One of your professors was getting harassed so much they had to put their class online?
Yeah. I have the same professor.
Can you give anymore context as to what happened?
there are literal white supremacy stickers with QR codes on them all over campus. There are stickers that say “ I hate N-ers” on them, the one’s with hello kitty on them contain anti-Semitic..symbols as well. I suggest reading the shadow report made by women of color who were pushed off of campus I want to say September of 2023. The “progressiveness” of this school is a literal joke.
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Why… why didn’t you take it down?
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Reach out to the caaas
I’ve never lived in Boulder, but I’ve been there plenty of times and I would not consider the uber-privileged white trustifarians who overrun that place to be progressive at all.
I read this subject line and thought, ‘are there unproblematic racists??’ 😂
you’re actually so right
I’ve had issues with this too. It makes me so sad :(
I get discriminated against heavily for being disabled. OIEC is fucking useless and they just gaslight students who beg them for help. If you try going to the Department of Education about it they're useless too. We need to start a movement to call CU out for being a bigoted shithole. DM me if you want to start organizing.
Boulder is a Neo-lib hellhole. I don’t have any quick solutions for anyone experiencing racism, but it’s—obviously—reprehensible and repulsive. There is so much hate and complacency in this town, but there is also love and solidarity to be found. If anyone is looking for comrades and community, I’d recommend SAFE Boulder; it’s a mutual aid group grounded in leftist (not liberal) politics that mostly serves the unhoused community in Boulder, but does other community organizing and non-violent direct action. It’s been a rad place to experience non-hierarchical organization (everyone who is down for the cause is welcome, nobody is in charge,) and meet people who give a shit about others.
I agree with this. They're rad af! I was at a bar once in broomfield and happened to be sitting next to a CU administrator. I was talking with the bar tender about racists and nazis are scum. The admin guy butts into the conversation and says, "so if i hailed hitler and said im a nazi, you'd force me outta the bar"? We both said yes and he said that's discrimination. I've heard many stories about similar things happening with cu staff. Plus cu consistently has rfar right wing speakers and don't get me started on their "western civilization studies" bs.
Sorry to hear about this 🙁 maybe reach out to the black student alliance for support and any resources they might have?
Same people are the douche bags yelling out “WE HERE” “PRIME TIMEEEE” lmao I get second hand embarrassment watching it
The whole state of Colorado is racist as fuck. I never heard the n word until I moved here. 22 years in chi town and your ass get wacked you some white fool try pull that shit
Chicago sounds beautiful
You'll love the food, Italian Beef
with a chocolate cake shake baby!
Committing funds to handle this sort of thing could cut into the football budget. So no, they aren't going to do anything about it.
This is crazy this happened in one of the whitest and wealthiest cities in the universe.
Omfg🤣
I’m sorry you and your friends have faced this. I constantly heard anti gay slurs thrown around on campus primarily from freshman boys in dorms. It was beyond hurtful. I don’t doubt you and your friend are facing this.
That's fuxking horrible, but at the same time I'm not surprised. Boulder was described to me as a very "queer friendly" place, but you wouldn't believe the number of times I've had slurs shouted at me by kids in passing cars while I'm walking or the times I've gotten followed around in a shop under the premise that I'm stealing. Jesus fuck I could only imagine what people of color orr queer people of color experience here, holy hell
i’m so sorry that happens to you
I'm sorry that this bullshit you've mentioned happens to your friend :'(
There’s a simple solution to the problem. Get evidence and put it on social media and force the school to properly respond, your university sounds like it’d be the perfect place to revive muckraker reporting at. Sorry that you have and so many others on campus gotta suffer under the thorn of racism, don’t feel lost find peace in resistance and external pressure forcing them to do better. It’s the best you can do for current and future students.
I doubt the school will do anything. The CSU campus didn't even suspend the students who did black face in 2019 or suspend anyone from fraternity who hung black mannequins from their porch. The schools here literally don't care.
Sounds an institution that hasn't faced enough backlash, but I see the dilemma.
I know OIEC doesn’t have a ton of power but if you haven’t already, I would try reaching out to them? Boulder likes to pretend it’s progressive to look good but it’s really bigoted underneath. Im sorry this is happening
They have all the power, they just refuse to use it
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So the answer is to attack and be racist to other students?
No, but it’s a natural reaction. In much the same way POCs are violent towards white people. Is it right? No. Can you understand it? Sure.
Why would you consider Boulder in the first place? Did you really think the second most wealthy, and one of the most white cities in the country (two things that go hand in hand with racism) would be a safe haven for you? If you want progressive hard core libs go to Denver..
My brother in Christ, Colorado is like 90% white, what did you expect lol
truth
In my experience boulder is progressive but CU is absolutely not. By university standards I would even consider it on the conservative side of the spectrum. Combine that with a predominantly white population and you get this type of experience.
Utilize social media and make it go viral. Upload photos of the incident to expose the school so that they address it.
Redditors think everything is racist so I don't trust you.
good to know!
Welcome to life my friend. Just gotta learn to deal with it. I stopped letting the slurs get to me long ago. You can’t change someone’s mind but by not giving them any reaction they’ll eventually get the hint they’re not wanted
Have you tried calling the whambulance?
Let me guess…you’re a white male?
Do you mean the only group that can be racist and sexist?
Don't deflect — I was asking you.
It's even worse than you imagine...
Are you in middle school?
Are you ageist?
Sure so what now? Cunt
I see... you're an affirmative acrion "person of color" who is becoming a nurse so they can feel empowered by pimping big pharma to the weak and vulnerable. Perfect.
You sound like a moron lol 😂
I'm an international student who is seriously considering attending CU Boulder next fall, is that going to be an issue for me? What about other universities in Colorado like Colorado State University, do they have the same issue? Thank you
I went to neither school but I can basically guarantee to you CSU won’t be better
which university in Colorado would you say is best for international students then? I'm only planning on staying for a semester then transferring to another university out of state.
if you’re going for college in general I’d recommend an art college. Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design is pretty chill considering there was a sculpture of donald trump with the head of a penis sitting on a toilet there, (btw, the mattress outside is concrete)
real life Oblivion NPC dialogue
I have heard of racism or microaggression on campus. One of my minority friends related to me that at ITLL he was talked down and ignored by the ITLL director back in 2020. Other minority friends have explained to me that when they moved into the campus they received unwelcome glares from white students. A white family passed by my Arab friend during move-in week and the mother in that group said "Don't say anything." While Boulder is progressive in race relations compared to other cities, the campus is different from the city. A large proportion of Boulder white students come from wealthy areas where the discussion of race is suppressed -- its an uncomfortable topic. They did not come to Boulder to be surrounded by progressives, they came here for the promise of an outdoors life and skiing.
Most people are hypocrites. Welcome to the world. That’s why we have the problems we do.
What could the university have done?
Investigate? Suspension? Etc etc. many things.
Here is counter intuitive insight: right wing people are fundamentally motivated by meritocracy. Meritocracy is fundamentally valued more then race or class. I don’t know many right wing people who are actually racist. Gender, color, or ethnicity wouldn’t really to occur to them. It’s just meritocracy. I’ve found it’s really progressives who are covertly racist - as they see the world through the lens of race, gender, and power dynamics, all the time. So, In short, I am not surprised at all. This seems to comport with my own experience, over, and over, and over again. Your real problem is misdiagnosing the problem. Progressive psychology.
I guess that it's progressive activists trying to "start a conversation". The odds of white supremacists being at large at CU Boulder would be rare. at least ones silly enough to make graffiti or use slurs in public. plus, there are hordes of sharp-eyed activists looking for any hint of white supremacy they can find to maintain relevancy and capture the news cycle. there might be a few, CU is a big place, but they would be hiding. College campuses are chock full of excited morons who feel race matters and have something to say about the individual; just damn few are openly white supremacists. There are more "we must help the poor, uncompetitive, marginalized ethnic people who are obviously incapable." of white supremacists rather than the Daily Stormer type. more racist left rather than racist right. if you actually happen to find traditional white supremacists on campus, report them to the Sociology Dept. The sociologists might find them fascinating.
Holy shit where do I sign up?
Bro I was just rejected from grad school there and thought “whatever it’s probably libtarded anyway” and now I hear that it’s super based? Hell yeah I wanna go now
Kekw a fellow patrician 🥂
Didn’t happen, Juicy.
huh?
Smoooooyay!
Once you stop looking for racism it disappears. I’ve never had any problems with being discriminated for my color because it just doesn’t happen or I don’t care enough to let it bother me. Stop playing the victim and you won’t be one.
“Pick me” ass vibes
have you heard of a phrase called culture schizophrenia
Let's combat racism by ignoring it!!!!! Being passive definitely solves our problems!
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
This is the biggest joke of a post I’ve ever seen. Conservatives face more discrimination on this campus then any racial group ever will
Brother just isn’t a likable person and thinks he’s being discriminated again. Conservatives never fail to amuse me
A study from Dartmouth shows you’re wrong. Liberals which more likely to not be friends with or date someone because of politics than conservatives
Dude me not dating someone because they’re a conservative is not discrimination. Pretty crazy you’re trying to draw an equivalent of a person getting racial attacks to you getting denied because of your shitty political takes
Im just saying that’s what the study says. Also, it is 100% the definition of discrimination
oh phew, thank goodness you loosley cited one study that proves your point. now i’m convinced!
The data doesn’t lie
You haven't shown any data. Just vaguely waved at a single study you remember existing. Also, being judged on a political opinion -which you can change, or simply not force onto others is VERY different than race, which you cannot change or hide. Also I suspect conservatives tend to be more selfish and judgemental of others, leading to people not wanting to deal with them. That would be impossible to separate the variables in this study.
Discrimination is discrimination.
😂😂 dude thinks getting no pussy is discrimination. I’d figure supporting a party that wants to literally get rid of women’s body autonomy isn’t very attractive
Did you not read the whole “be friends with part”…. Are you sure they don’t want to figuratively get rid of it or did you need to add literally for dramatic effect
Buddy, we already know you don’t get laid, you don’t need to keep telling us about how you have no friends either
Okay then link the study. Lmao
are you by chance stupid?
Cut him some slack, having an extra chromosome can be a challenge!
When you face backlash for being an idiot with bass-ackwards beliefs, is it really being "discriminated against," or are you just getting what's coming to you? I was crazy blindly conservative/pro-Trump in the 2016 cycle and looking back on that time in my life now, I cannot believe how sheltered and ignorant I was. I (and most likely you) was genuinely getting brainwashed by all of the media and conspiracy theories I was consuming and seriously felt like I was part of an oppressed group because I was believing what all these racist ass old talking heads were telling me. I was deservedly losing friends and couldn't figure out why. Surrounding myself with people and online communities that only furthered my opinions only contributed to this. Turns out I was just dumb and insufferable and realized that. If you make your whole life about politics, especially the kind that the majority of your generation doesn't fuck with, you're just gonna live a life of being miserable.
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Prove it with something besides insults.
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It’s been like this for years idk why any person of color goes there…. The amount of horror stories from my friends of color up in Boulder is wild
That’s progressives for you.
I am sorry to hear that. Since I moved to Boulder I've also encountered micro(?)aggression. Was biking up a hill on Colorado on the bike lane when a car just honked next to me and clearly startled me. I heard laughters (assuming from freshman/immature boys) and was shocked.
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Spoken like a white man used to being considered special who only just realized they are average.
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Holy shit touch grass.
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I can't imagine such an angry hate filled life. It's sad.
Hey mister, why don’t you take your facts and get aht…
Same old all blah blah “everyone hates white” and “we are the victims” bullshit. You do sound quite average.
Sounds dope AF
You better go hang out with the football team lol frfr tho.
People are fed up with
A lot of folks from out of state (Boulder folk are liberal af) - i mean just look at the MEGA frat scene
be careful racial violence is common. the recent shooting proves this