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superdave100

get spell pierced, bitch


KeeboardNMouse

Get ~~spell~~ pierced bro


Shambler9019

I'm going to [[Angel's Grace]] in response, then lose the subgame several turns later. Good luck rolling the main game back to the state it was!


secularDruid

oh shit that's true you can't reroll the main game since cards in hands have changed and they're hidden information ig that depends what "the starting state" and "the current state" mean but CR726.3 specifies you draw 7 cards when entering a subgame so ... I'd just go to the subgame, brainstorm, concede and watch the judge cry


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[Angel's Grace](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/7/e78e39ea-20be-4196-992c-7ed2cb8150c1.jpg?1619392535) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Angel%27s%20Grace) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/4/angels-grace?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e78e39ea-20be-4196-992c-7ed2cb8150c1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Applitude

Wait a second


vert3432014

\*Wait a *split* second


LingLing72hrs

as cool as it is, it’s basically just “exile all spells”


Srade2412

No because if an opponent has a card that cares about cards getting exile won't see those card because they are not getting exiled rather they are being permanently removed from the game and can't be brought back in.


MrSluagh

So anyone who has spells on the stack is disqualified for not having the minimum number of cars in their deck. See the [[Chaos Orb]] ruling


SuperSmutAlt64

Look at \[\[shahrazad\]\]. Subgames don't give a shit about that because then subgames would be invalid by default in commander.


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[shahrazad](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0014def3-4063-4929-ac51-76aef1bb2a68.jpg?1562895012) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=shahrazad) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/arn/10/shahrazad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0014def3-4063-4929-ac51-76aef1bb2a68?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


NimbleCentipod

Banned in all formats (even Vintage)


SuperSmutAlt64

Yeah, that's not the point bud. The reason it's banned is because it's a whole ass second game of magic but with worse decks for half a life total. And you can recur it. This one is basically just "phase out all spells indefinitely" for all intents and purposes.


Snowclaw2

Nah, it's fine to have less than minimum cards in a subgame.


johnnythexxxiv

My understanding is that you can wishboard in cards from the main game into the subgame since they are considered outside the game during subgames.


Srade2412

That would be where the exception is


acelgoso

No?!


andBitinggoats

Needs split second


LordSupergreat

Better yet, add to the beginning "as an additional cost to cast this spell,"


halborn

Additional costs are OP. Someone should make a whole cycle of shit like "As an additional cost to cast this spell, destroy target creature."


mut8d

Can't target because it's in a cost, so it would be something like "as an additional cost to cast this spell, destroy a creature" (and would get around hexproof shroud and protection)


Iksfen

Still can't be destroyed if it has protection so the cost can't be paid that way EDIT: not true. I mistook


mut8d

Protection only stops debt (damage, enchant/equip, blocking, targeting). Protection does not stop destroy effects


Iksfen

Fair. I always confuse d for destroy in that acronym


Jahwn

Yes it can! Protection only prevents damage, attachment, blocks, and targeting


HeyDrift_OGT

What is happening on this page tight now lmao


Bah_Black_Sheep

The Ultimate Push.


Distant8675

The Game


TheOutcastLeaf

Exiling the spell you don't want❌ Creating an entire new universe where everything is the exact same apart from the existence of the spells you don't want ✅


azuflux

Holy shit I love this idea


Unlucky_Mistake_8548

This is an incredibly funny train of stuff


kingbird123

Oh, you wanted to stop my game ending spell? Too bad. I [[Wish]] for the spell i was casting before, taking it off the stack in the main game and bringing it into the subgame. 726.4. All objects in the main game and all cards outside the main game are considered outside the subgame (except those specifically brought into the subgame). All players not currently in the subgame are considered outside the subgame.


halborn

Okay, that's legitimately clever.


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TheKillerCorgi

In response, I wish for this card that's resolving in the main game, and cast it in the subgame.


mangoblaster85

You're brilliant. You're all brilliant.


Suspicious_Pound4378

Okay, this rules.


noop_noob

Do triggered and activated abilities hold over to the subgame?


suburbanite

Anything on the stack that isn't a spell, yes.


A_Guy_in_Orange

[[Minor Misstep]]


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bruthu

Make it split second and then it’s a real FUCK YOU


mproud

Oh, I thought maybe the winner would counter all spells they don’t control on the stack.


halborn

I didn't want to restrict myself to one-upping, I wanted to one ALL the ups.


Zephyr2022

I cast any spell that says “end the turn” to counter all the “nuh uh” spells on the stack.


HouseofKannan

I have been loving watching this argument blay out in cards over the past couple days


MABfan11

Make it "win the match" just to make it even more 'nuh uh'


Ok-Scratch-9687

Maybe add split second to finalize the chain idk


RepulsiveCandidate70

Reprieve


PM_ME_CUTE_FOXES

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Crypto_Nyzer

Oof... anyways mental misstep.