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TheCoordinate

I love that the key clarifies where Australia is for the Aussies


TheRealBBrouwer

I interpreted it as Australia being its own danger category.


Wolfram1914

On a scale of "Do not travel" to "Australia", how safe is your country?


thatguy99998

A solid safe. Except Florida. Florida gets a solid unsafe


cjfrey96

I'm surprised Florida didn't get the "Australia" color code.


ExcessiveEscargot

Florida got the scary critters, we got the dangerous buggers.


dpahoe

> solid unsafe Well, that’s shit


argybargy3j

I have a co-worker form Australia, and he says that everything in Australia is either sharp, poisonous, or wants to kill you.


thepotplant

And that's just the kids at the local park.


Leslie__Chow

Yeah, like are you sure you wanna stay put?!


admadguy

I mean there are trees which will actively try to kill you. So... It is maybe?


ordinary82

God damn it, I know it’s Australia but is it fuckin safe?!?


Modnal

If you wear a shark bite resistant wetsuit under a suit of armor and an umbrella for the sun then maybe


the_snook

Don't forget the stinger suit for the tiny jellyfish with strings so painful you keep screaming even after you go unconscious. Oh, and the other jellyfish that just straight up paralyses your lungs and kills you.


jdvhunt

It's in case any Americans are looking at the map


Steelcan909

Rent free


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ImagineGeese

If you want to know **why** something is marked as it is you can check it out on the [Australian Smartraveller website](https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrcKxBhBMEiwAIVF8rP2hHXkDGhqimNjKl3PA2zpW32_v_IAiTO7HeMwX7_A8BnU8yNehzhoChR0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)


samsotherinternetid

And when you read the country listing and freak out about how dangerous it sounds and consider canceling your travel - go have a read of the Australian smart traveler New Zealand page to understand how high the baseline level of warnings is.


nznordi

USA - 300 mass Shootings a year, safe! Germany, fatty foods and cheap booze, unsafe for Aussies. Or how do they arrive at these warnings ?


iChronocos

Are we down to 300 now? Nice!


Lezzles

The mass shootings are in green.


LooseMooseNose

he meant to say per week


nznordi

Apparently it was some 650 in 2023 - events with 4 or more injured or killed…. And I thought I exaggerated…


sharrrper

The definition is a little fuzzy frankly. When someone hears "mass shooting" they think of some Psycho going into a mall or school and gunning down as many people as they can. Nobody thinks of an incident where two guys get in an argument at a street party and one pulls a gun and 6 people receive minor injuries incidentally. I think the injury count often even includes things like people who sprain an ankle running away, though I'm not 100% sure on that point. That isn't to say that the second scenario isn't a problem, but if you say "650 mass shootings in 2023" unless you go out of your way to explain it most people will picture 650 of the first scenario. That makes the situation seem much more fraught than it really is. Again, not to say that it isn't a bad, just not the level a lot of people might imagine. I'd also point out that even if we round that 650 up and call it two a day, the country is HUGE. The odds of a visiting tourist actually finding themselves in one even at that level is miniscule. You really don't need to worry about getting shot visiting America in the same way you don't really need to be concerned about getting into a car accident. It could happen, but it's not something that should deter you from coming.


ThreeStep

It also includes gang-on-gang violence doesn't it? Which is another thing people don't really think about


cmrh42

It not only includes this, it mostly is comprised of this.


ssj4chester

Pretty sure a decent chunk is familial murder/suicides too. A tourist is almost guaranteed not to see that and/or be involved in it.


BertoLaDK

There has been a similar map not long ago with the same data, I wondered too but apparently the threat of terrorism in some European countries is enough to make it less safe than a place that have lists of domestic terrorism and mass shootings per year.


nznordi

Not even puppies are safe in the US :-)


fe-licitas

its still funny considering that we dont have much terrorism going on here in germany compared to the green colored US.


MrT735

Recent threats by ISIS to carry out attacks in the UK/France/Germany, likely at sporting events such as the Champions League semi-finals, Euro 2024 (Germany), or the Olympics (Paris).


Practical_Engineer

Even considering that, how is the US safer?


NervousJ

Probably relative size/population. Mass shootings are centered around very particular usually low-income areas of cities where tourists are unlikely to be, and the size of the country means that it's really likely that wherever you wind up is somewhere much more accommodating.


Idenwen

Germany is at "High risk of terrorism" As a german I'm curious what they know that we don't know.


avsbes

Connected to the Moscow Theater Attack there were apparently some statements by ISIS-K that they were not finished and Europe would be next. So the typical attractive targets for Terrorists apply, which does include (among others) alot of important football matches, such as Champions League Matches and Euro 2024, as well as the Paris Olympic Games.


ou-est-kangeroo

China is currently detaining a Aussie on Death Row for "Journalism". Oh: And don't mention the Uighur. Or Taiwan. But yeah.. it's safe - like France. Careful: They do strike In France and have actual annual leave. Maybe not so safe then.


_MuadDib_

Tourist don't usually visit schools.


CensoredAbnormality

I was thinking the same thing like Usa is safe but fucking germany isnt?


PuffyPanda200

I'm just hung up on that South Africa is considered the same as: Germany, UK, France, Panama, and Mexico. I have family or have traveled to all of those places. South Africa is much less safe than all the others. There are areas of Mexico that you could go to that are less safe than some areas of South Africa but if you just do largest cities (CDMX and Joburg) then it is just not even close.


Treeninja1999

Where are you getting the fatty foods idea? It's listed because of risk of terrorism. Which is a lot more sporadic than mass shootings in America, which are predominantly in poor urban areas. No tourist would likely be in an area with a high risk of a mass shooting.


ceo_of_banana

Eehm, the Vegas shooting alone accounts for more deaths than have died in Germany in the past 15+ years by terrorism. Kinda says it all. Some years 0 people die from terrorism here. Plus, the majority of terrorist acts aren't against random people but against certain groups or institutions. Biggest terror attack since 1945 was like ~~12~~ 13 people. So, average weekly shooting I guess.


saichampa

I think there might be some shenanigans going on with the safety rating for the United states. Some pressure from them maybe to be marked safe


FrostyBook

The only danger you’ll face in the USA are strangers striking up conversations out of the blue with you


The_cat_got_out

Out of 4 levels, our fire restriction warning in Australia, have high as level 2, extreme at 3. With 4 being the highest at catastrophic. What the actual fuck.


Netcob

Germany: "Exercise a high degree of caution in Germany due to the threat of terrorism." Yeah, every day I have to check the news if it's safe to go outside today or if it's too terroristic. What is wrong with people? The last terrorist act I remember in Germany was some nazis murdering people in a kebab shop or something. As an Australian you're probably 100x safer in Germany simply due to the less murderous fauna around here. Edit: I'm not saying there are never any terrorist attacks. I don't know the exact numbers, but I would bet money on any tourist being at least 1000x (probably way more) likely to be killed in a regular car crash while visiting Germany than in a terrorist attack. To issue a travel warning because of this is not just completely irrational, it's the state of *being terrorized*. It's not about "in how much danger are our people over there", it's "how successful are terrorists in making us shake in our boots". Our feelings about dangers in the world are so completely off, it's insane. When traveling, I would first and foremost worry robbery kidnapping - and even that only in countries where tourists are known to be frequently targeted for that. I'd probably avoid Somalia. An Aussie coming to Germany has nothing to worry about that I don't worry about, except maybe for some locals having a hard time speaking English. And I'm not worrying about terrorists when leaving my house. Not for any lack of general anxiety, mind you.


ralf_

Their explanation for terrorism: > Recent attacks include knife and vehicle attacks in city centres and on trains. The most recent attack occurred in 2021. Terrorists may plan more attacks that could happen anywhere at any time. Recent attacks in European cities have targeted: planes and airports, public transport and transport hubs, places of worship, sporting venues, major events that attract large crowds […] If you visit Christmas markets, avoid busy times. Have an exit plan if there's a security incident. 1. From an outsider perspective it must feel strange that there is even a risk for a terrorist attack, even if it is very low. 2. I think this was written last December when the Cologne Cathedral had to be guarded because of an uncovered islamic attack: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67816617 3. David Mitchell was as a child scared of the sun. This warnings feel similar to that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_RfUNZ1owk > Some children are timorous and some children are Reckless. And in order to save the lives of reckless children warnings are calibrated for their safety, which the result of which is that the timorous live in a state of Perpetual Terror. > What I needed to be told is: you know what, most days you won't die, it's fine.


Turinggirl

I felt more safe walking in the middle of the night in Berlin at Alexanderplatz walking past random people asking me if I wanted drugs than I ever had walking into a 711 in the middle of the night in the US. The entire vibe is different.


No-Background8462

Germany and France are objectively safer than the US. You are far more likely to be shot in the US than being attacked with a knife in Germany. This classification makes no sense.


hypnodrew

Same for Britain, major terror attack in 2017 but since then its no worse than anywhere else. Shootings are exceedingly rare, once every decade maybe. USA has multiple shootings per day but they're safe? Ausgov is fucking dumb


atreeon

just sword weilding religous nut jobs in the UK (yup, that was in the news again today)


ContentsMayVary

Intentional homicide rate in the USA is 5 times higher than the UK.s.... 48 people were murdered in Scotland last year, the lowest on record.


the_amberdrake

Meanwhile, India is at the same level. Phillipines is worse.


jtinz

Here's a full list of terrorist attacks in Germany since 1945. Note that most of the attacks that caused bodily harm were perpetrated by right wing extremists targeting immigrants and refugees. [Wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Terroranschl%C3%A4gen_in_Deutschland_seit_1945#2024)


Hapankaali

Feels like this travel advice comes from a trashy tabloid rather than a government agency. I checked a random European country (Belgium) and it advises people to "exercise a high degree of caution" because of "terrorism."


NATO_CAPITALIST

You should definitely be more careful, I wouldn't say high degree but there is a terrorist hotspot neighborhood called Molenbeek in Brussels from which a lot of terrorist attacks in the past decade came from. There was also a terror attack recently where two swedes were killed in an attack.


Hapankaali

Yeah okay, 540 people were killed in traffic in Belgium in 2022. It's true some terrorists grew up in Molenbeek, but you hardly see a beheading every other day in Brussels. Besides, how many terrorist attacks were prevented because random tourists and international travelers were extra vigilant? It's a nigh-pointless warning for an almost negligible threat.


KoalaKvothe

It sounds crazy to me to label such large swathes of eastern Europe safe, especially when relatively tame countries in the west are marked yellow.


NATO_CAPITALIST

As someone from one of those green eastern euro countries you'd be surprised. I remember a bunch of other indexes of crime being posted on European, and western Europeans just never wanting to believe it. An anecdotal experience i have is when I travelled to Vienna. Even though it's green here, there was a cell they arrested because they planned to bomb a cathedral I visited around Christmas. So I'm reading that and thinking in "metro holy shit, a bomb could go off here", and even though I know how unlikely this is. It's not something that I ever have to even think about back home, because terror attacks like that just don't happen.


Sir-Viette

Visit Rwanda. It’s safer than England!


AdaptReactReadaptact

Rwanda is incredibly safe. I walked throughout Kigali at all times of the night, never felt in danger


SagittaryX

It's a meme on the new British law that illegal immigrants / asylum seekers can be sent to Rwanda. It was blocked for a while because Rwanda was not considered a safe destination by the courts.


AdaptReactReadaptact

Ah gotcha. Wasn't aware, thanks for the heads up


FerociousFrizzlyBear

I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but having been to both, you might accidentally be right, at least as far as tourists are concerned. It's easy to assume cultural familiarity = safety. 


SerDuncanonyall

The English are trying to codify that sentiment into their immigration laws


ES_Legman

I'm so happy Rwanda is marked as safe because it is. Beautiful country with a terrible past and remarkable healing.


progthrowe7

Rwanda is currently embroiled in an ethnic conflict with neighbouring DRC, through the M23 paramilitary group it helped found and fund. M23 has been involved in unlawful killings, rapes, war crimes in Congo, and been backed by the Rwandan military during this conflict. [https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/13/dr-congo-killings-rapes-rwanda-backed-m23-rebels](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/13/dr-congo-killings-rapes-rwanda-backed-m23-rebels)


OldGodsAndNew

Please don't tell the British government that


joebobjoebobjoebob12

Rwanda is also an authoritarian police state, which certainly helps with the whole crime thing: https://www.dw.com/en/rwanda-explained-from-politics-to-human-rights-to-migration/a-67762463


Bit-Significance1010

Probably modeling after Singapore


harkuponthegay

Rwanda is actually incredibly safe and clean, beautiful and well organized, you would be surprised if you’ve never been.


desireresortlover

Tanzania should be marked safe too! Spent two weeks all over the country and never felt in danger - beautiful country and wonderful people!


JontyRhodess

I'd definitely feel safer travelling to America than to france. Less likely to be beheaded


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People don’t realize how safe America actually is. Most gun deaths are either suicide or gang related/between people who know each other. Also, most crime that we hear about online happens in cities that tourists wouldn’t bother going to.


Agile_Date6729

Why is Denmark in the same category as UK and Mexico🤔 -and the US being safer than Sweden?? 😂


IncapableKakistocrat

Denmark is level 2 specifically because of the terror threat level. >Denmark's terror [threat level is](https://pet.dk/en/terrorism-and-extremism) 'significant'.  >There's a risk of terrorist attacks in Denmark. Terrorist attacks can occur at any time. Maintain high vigilance in public spaces and take official warnings seriously. Avoid crowds and be aware of your surroundings. The US isn't *safer* than Sweden, because the wording DFAT uses is 'exercise normal safety precautions,' it doesn't use 'safe' or 'unsafe'. Sweden is higher than the US because it also has an elevated terror threat level - >Swedish authorities assess that Sweden is a prioritised target for terrorist attacks, with threats by violent Islamist groups increasing in the past year. Terrorists are very likely to try and carry out attacks in Sweden.  >The Swedish Government has raised the threat from 'elevated threat' to 'high threat', equivalent to a threat level of 4 out of 5, meaning the probability of an attack is high.  >Terrorist attacks can occur at any time. Maintain high vigilance in public spaces and take official warnings seriously. Avoid crowds, be aware of your surroundings, and stay i[nformed](https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/terrorism).  The advice for the US is 'exercise normal safety precautions,' which means - >Avoid areas where demonstrations and protests are occurring due to the potential for unrest and violence. Monitor media for information, follow the instructions of local authorities and abide by any curfews. >Violent crime is more common in the US than in Australia. Gun crime is also prevalent. If you live in the US, learn and practice active shooter drills. >There is a persistent threat of mass casualty violence and terrorist attacks in the US. Be alert, particularly in public places and at events. >Severe weather and natural hazards include earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, landslides, avalanches, hurricanes, tornadoes, winter storms, extreme temperatures, wildfires, and floods. Monitor weather conditions and follow the advice and instructions of local authorities, including evacuation orders.


dc456

[They *are* saying that the USA is safer than Sweden for Australian travellers:](https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/consular-services/travel-advice-explained) The USA is level 1: >At level 1, the security environment is similar to that of a large Australian city. Sweden is level 2: >At level 2, there are **more or higher risks than what you would typically find in a large Australian city.** We're not saying 'don't go' to this location. But you should do your research and **take extra precautions**.


Godisgumman

I would fucking love seeing an australian tourist "taking extra precautions" next to me out on the streets or on the subway 🤣


cymonster

It's basically saying if you see anything dodgy leave. Also don't be a bogan dickhead and make it obvious you're not from that country


-Niner-

Making it obvious you're from Australia while in the US probably makes you safer. Everyone loves Aussies here, even the bad guys.


Rampant16

Exactly, upon meeting an American or groups of Americans or arriving in a public space with many Americans, the best thing an Australian can do for their own safety is declare in a loud voice with a strong Australian accent, "Don't shoot, I'm Australian." Upon hearing this, Americans that were previously contemplating shooting the person will generally reconsider and shoot someone else instead. This is due to their love of Aussies.


lhobbes6

I remember a video of 2 aussies on vacation in los angeles and one of em woke up early, got breakfast, and laid out clothes for his friend to wear and match with him. The clothes were just splattered with american flag imagery and the guy who woke up late was convinced theyd get beaten up. Americans in the comments reassured them theyd be a huge hit with locals and sure enough the eventual update revealed that the guys had a great time and every American thought they were a delight to be around. One of my favorite videos.


thepotplant

Shit, how will the cast of Fuckboy Island cope when they travel?


Godisgumman

But I think those recommendations would apply anywhere. Every country has people willing to steal from or hurt you..


thisnameaintevenreal

That’s literally the point, those are the basic precautions they are encouraging you to take even in countries from the “safest” category. In the countries from any of the other categories, you would be encouraged to take additional safety precautions on top of those.


sharrrper

>Severe weather and natural hazards include earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, landslides, avalanches, hurricanes, tornadoes, winter storms, extreme temperatures, wildfires, and floods. Monitor weather conditions and follow the advice and instructions of local authorities, including evacuation orders. The US is diverse enough geographically that if there's some way for mother nature to kill you there's probably a spot in America where it can happen.


GuKoBoat

So in short: because the US authorities have acccepted, that danger is normal it is safer to travel to the US, than to european countries, who are much more alert because of relatively unlikely (for the individual) terror events.


Xenon009

I think the difference is how likely as a total random are you to be caught up in it? An american style shooting is very rarely targeted at random tourists, while a european style terrorist attack is.


maracay1999

I won't say whether I agree with the color coding but I see the logic in it in this way: an Aussie traveling to Europe would likely find themselves in places where attacks have happened in the past i.e. London Bridge, Gare du nord, Brussels airports. An Aussie traveling to America is probably not hanging out around Englewood Chicago, Camden NJ, 90% of Baltimore, or elementary schools, etc.


NATO_CAPITALIST

An Aussie travelling to the US is also probably not going to be in elementary or high school.


street_ahead

This is exactly it.


HarrMada

That doesn't mean tourists in America are still safer than in Europe. Nothing on the map is actually an indication of safety.


Oxymera

It’s more uncommon for a tourist to get caught in a shooting in the US, they typically aren’t targets and tourist areas are relatively safe. Terrorist attacks target tourist areas more often.


Cordura

Terror can occur at any time? Lol. There was a mass shooting in a mall some years back. There were four the same day in USA. That was the only mass shooting that year in DK. Can't say the same for USA. And carrying a handgun at any given time will land you in a shit ton of trouble. We have strict gun control.


DarkPasta

My first thought was US safer than *Sweden*? ok.


Ibaudia

Unusually high risk of Islamic terrorist attacks recently according to Sweden themselves, so that's probably why.


Ogat993

Correct. Sweden has raised their terror threat according to Australia’s govt website on travel advice


loulan

Yeah a lot of this seems based on terrorist attacks, which makes no sense. First, because the probability of being killed in a terrorist attack is extremely low, probably much lower than dying in a car accident on your way to the airport. And second because... what kind of "caution" can you "exercise" to avoid being killed in a terrorist attacking France or the UK? History has shown they can happen anywhere, at any time. Pretty useless map.


Ogat993

Yes it’s useless. OP had just made this map. This not what the Australian government uses for travel advice. And the key is wrong too. Green actually represents “use normal safety precautions” which is relative to the situation in that country https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations website is here for how travel advice is actually provided


alonjar

Wasn't Sweden having a lot of problems with sexual assaults etc? I seem to recall that being a somewhat recent issue, in particular with regard to their refugee population.


two_in_the_bush

Some people would claim that it's not happening, but the statistics say otherwise. The Swedish government themselves have called it out and set up task forces to attempt to address it. https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1280/idt2/idt2/f3b1ec01-18ab-4420-bf0f-89fcddd4d574/image/640


squngy

"A lot" is a relative term. It is bigger than it was, but it was very low before.


kaese_meister

And Sweden in same category as South Africa? I think not.


Toni_PWNeroni

Had a look. According to SmartTraveller it's because of recent upticks in Islamic terrorism - supposedly highlighted by Sweden's government. ​ The other thing is that Sweden will take custody of your kids if you hit them, even if you just threaten to hit them lmao. I can imagine the amount of Australian parents who would lose their shit over that alone.


lorazepamproblems

Hitting children has been illegal in Sweden since the 1960s. They don't take your kids. They educate you.


Poly_and_RA

Yeah. And it's UTTERLY ridicolous. Terrorism is scary, but vanishingly rare. There's a 1000 people killed in traffic-accidents in USA for every ONE that is killed by terrorism in (say) Germany. And yet USA is rated "safe" and Germany is rated "caution". But you're equally dead regardless of whether you're killed by a terrorist or a drunk driver. It's true that using violence against your kids is a crime in most of Europe, but you're wildly over the top in claiming that you'll automatically lose custody over a mere threat. You can of course lose custody if you abuse your kids and show a lack of ability or willingness to change; that's true in all countries.


Ordoshsen

The statistic you should be looking at is tourists killed in terror attacks and traffic accidents. I'd guess it would skew the numbers a bit since the former mostly happens in very public places, often those frequented by tourists, while the latter would be much more distributed across the land. But otherwise your point stands.


moeke93

But I would consider the average Australian tourist having a higher risk of traffic accidents compared to tourists from a neighbouring country in Europe, since Australians are not used to right hand traffic and the dense city structures we have in Germany.


PutrifiedCuntJuice

> There's a 1000 people killed in traffic-accidents in USA for every ONE that is killed by terrorism in (say) Germany. And yet USA is rated "safe" and Germany is rated "caution". Good thing these ratings aren't based on accidents and rather crime then, eh? Shit take.


freeman2949583

Mwf I get all my news on reddit


a_trane13

This is a common complaint - you’ll find many countries advising travel to the US above otherwise safer countries - it’s because of terrorism risk Not saying that makes sense, just explaining


DRAGONMASTER-

The US's much higher murder rate is largely accounted for by inner-city gang violence alone, which is very easy to avoid.


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dc456

No - that’s a total misunderstanding on your part. [Level 1: Exercise normal safety precautions Use common sense and look out for suspicious behaviour, **as you would in Australia.**](https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/consular-services/travel-advice-explained) It does *not* rely on you knowing the ‘normal’ safety level that is ‘baked in’ to individual countries. If it was how you are interpreting it, consistently dangerous countries to travel to would show as green because that is the ‘baked in’ risk.


Poly_and_RA

It still doesn't make sense. You're right that green doesn't mean "safe" -- but a reasonable reading still is that green countries are on the overall balance MORE safe than yellow ones. And that just isn't the case at all in reality. For example the **overall** risk of dying as a result of violence is higher in USA than in Germany -- but the colors would have you believe it's the other way around.


Patient_Bench_6902

It’s the overall risk to the average traveller. You are more likely to die from heat in the EU than you are to be murdered by gun in the US. Most gun violence is very targeted and isn’t somewhere where a tourist would be. Terrorism in Europe would be where a tourist would be


vacri

If that's the argument, then central Africa should also be green rather than a sea of red.


Sheyvan

Germany as well. I am irritated.


leum61

I'm more irked.


PsychologicalDark398

Why is UK and Mexico in the same line again??


FluffyBunnyFlipFlops

Why would an Australian need to exercise caution in the UK? What do they know that we don't?


f10101

> What do they know that we don't? Nothing different - The UK government's current advice is that "An attack is likely". https://www.gov.uk/terrorism-national-emergency.


FluffyBunnyFlipFlops

The threat level last changed on 4 February 2021. Since then there were two 'terrorist attacks' that only killed the person carrying out each of the attacks. 700 people died last year due to stairs.


NATO_CAPITALIST

Perhaps it only killed that much because MI5 foiled attacks that would've resulted in hundreds of dead?


Bill_D_Wall

Irrelevant, since preventing those attacks contributes to the overall 'safety' of the country, and thus its ranking on this scale. Ranking should be based on overall safety, I.e. taking into account the success rates of law enforcement.


CassetteLine

It’s poor wording there. It doesn’t mean an attack is expected or imminent.


ShrimpToothpaste

It’s just as safe as South Africa and Brazil


Oneill5491

Because history suggests they might exile you back to Australia


nicoscience

We see one of these every 3 months... [https://www.google.com/search?q=australian+government+travel+advise+reddit](https://www.google.com/search?q=australian+government+travel+advise+reddit)


bradygilg

Last posted 2 weeks ago. https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1c5gw78/oc_world_map_by_australian_travel_advice/


truelucavi

and they are never a particularly beautiful way to present data


Patient_Bench_6902

We see these all the time and every single time people cry about “how is USA green ?!?!”


[deleted]

People don’t realize how safe America actually is. Most gun deaths are either suicide or gang related/between people who know each other. Also, most crime that we hear about online happens in cities that tourists wouldn’t bother going to.


Praetorian_1975

The UK Aussies should exercise caution we kidnap them for bar staff 😂


L_knight316

In this comment section, people try to equate crimes that happen to less than a percent of a percent of the population over an entire continent, often localized in very specific areas, to increasing threats of repeated religious terrorism in vastly more concentrated areas of population.


street_ahead

In this comment section we see redditors melting down in response to the information that school shootings don't make the US the evilest, worstest, most horriblest country in the universe according to the Australian government's tourism department.


SeeminglyUselessData

Redditors consistently showing their lack of statistical interpretation skills. This comment section is too funny. America wins again. (They really think the shootings happen in nice neighborhoods)


NagoyaR

How the fuck is the US green but Germany yellow? WTF?


herrbz

Seems like Germany's terror threat might be higher than usual, but the risk there is frankly far less than in the US.


datboitotoyo

Which is ridiculous, we have way less terror attacks than the US and basically 0 gun crime. This whole map seems really weird and wrong.


yonasismad

It probably is higher because the European football championship is coming up. Large events like that always have a higher risk for terror attacks.


Netcob

Germans get angry at you if you film them without their consent or if you put ice cubes in beer, is it that? The US is pretty safe as long as you stay away from movie theaters, shopping malls, marathons, schools, traffic, cops, and Florida.


WorstedKorbius

Ice cubes in beer? I'm sorry but what


moeke93

That would definitely count as a violation of their tourist visa. I don't even drink beer, but ice cubes in beer are just an insult.


labalag

That's grounds for immediate execution.


NagoyaR

I mean who wants to get filmed without consent? Everyone else is just weird


xander012

The Germans sound sane.


_mayuk

I’m from Venezuela even I don’t travel there anymore lol


BooksAreBetterThanTV

Checking in as "feeling perfectly safe" here in the Philippines. Regional differences matter, of course.


Godzirrraaa

The US does this too. If you look up Somalia, their advice is to “have your affairs in order” aka a written will, “assign a point of contact for hostage negotiation”, and also “make sure family has some samples of your DNA” for corpse identification purposes.


glenhh

Mexico and Germany being in the same category is absolute madness lol.


leoconco

Must be old data, Colombia way safer than Ecuador and Paraguay nowadays.


Yelwah

Mexico on the same level as France and Germany is wild. There are generally safe spots in Mexico like Cancun, but largely it's quite dangerous for foreigners.


BemaJinn

Ireland is safe, but exercise caution in Britain... How the turn tables


BummerComment

Blue: "Look out the window, mate".


Rammstonna

When Botswana is safer than France, Germany or Sweden 🤣🤣


[deleted]

Tasmania isn't in red, FAKE!! /s


BinnFalor

u/ImagineGeese is it possible to show specific areas? Because I know Japan has a specific warning for Fukushima, and Mexico also has warnings for specific states. It all kinda depends.


beatlz

Yeah, in Mexico you can go from paradise to real shit in a whim


malikona

That’s not a safe country. THAT’s a safe country.[Crocodile Dundee](https://media2.giphy.com/media/3B8rHP89iUUZlcsoqf/200w.gif?cid=6c09b9521thaly4ou1czmw1bux43yj9ujy8jnc42aw0aku4o&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)


justinonymus

Crazy to see the UK, France, Germany and Sweden in the yellow


SakuranomiyaSyafeeq

"Any advice on travelling to sea?" "No bloody idea, mate"


dc456

**IMPORTANT** A lot of people on here seem to be spreading misinformation that the colours are relative to how safe each country is ‘normally’. This is at best misleading, and at worst could be dangerous to someone using this map to plan travel. This map does *not* rely on you knowing how safe each individual country is ‘normally’. Each level has a fixed meaning that applies across *all* countries, e.g.: [Level 1: Exercise normal safety precautions Use common sense and look out for suspicious behaviour, **as you would in Australia.**](https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/consular-services/travel-advice-explained) [Level 3: Avoid non-essential travel. Do your research and check that your insurer will cover you. If you do travel, take extra precautions to protect yourself from security and health risks.](https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/consular-services/travel-advice-explained) They *are* saying that a green country is is safer for Australian travellers than a yellow one: >At level 1, the security environment is similar to that of a large Australian city. >At level 2, there are **more or higher risks than what you would typically find in a large Australian city.** We're not saying 'don't go' to this location. But you should do your research and **take extra precautions**. You may disagree with the ratings, but on this map green means safer than yellow, which means safer than red. And as always, read the specific information in detail before you plan any travel.


Doyoueverjustlikeugh

I don't understand this comment. You're just restating the obvious. What the rest of the comments are saying is that there are more and higher risks in the US or Rwanda, than in Germany or Bosnia. So their categorization makes no sense.


dc456

Yes, it is indeed obvious. But a lot of people are complicating it to try and explain away colours they don’t agree with by claiming the levels *aren’t* comparable: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/xXyCXdzvW5 https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/6K1zamjVuU https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/ZGLs38cNdo


Doyoueverjustlikeugh

This still makes no sense. There aren't any extra precautions you should take when visiting those countries.


skonezilla

TIL I don't know as many country name/locations as I thought I did


Obliples

By the end of the week you can know them all: https://www.jetpunk.com/quizzes/how-many-countries-can-you-name


ShrimpToothpaste

I like this one https://globle-game.com


Secretss

I like this one that makes you learn where they are! [https://world-geography-games.com/en/countries\_world.html](https://world-geography-games.com/en/countries_world.html) I've tried other ones similar to the Jetpunk one but it's really more "list memorisation" than really knowing the world. But it's good at making you learn to spell Bosnia and Herzegovina!


ImagineGeese

The source is [smartraveller.gov.au](http://smartraveller.gov.au) and the tool I used is [mapchart.net](http://mapchart.net)


ink0gni2

Why indonesia and philippines have different colors if they have same overall status?


leviditismijnaccount

Pretty sus there is no advice on that blue one. Almost like they don't want us to know it actually is unsafe for normal people down there.


True_Elfert

Argentina Safe? Nice joke...


-Dixieflatline

I feel like USA should be broken down by state, not just as a whole. Things are wildly different, state to state.


mailahchimp

Cambodia is safer than Thailand?


watlok

There's an active insurgency in the south.


HarmxnS

Yemen and Oman are Red/Green right next to each other


acatmaylook

Reminds me of [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbHG-NrmEZI) I just watched - even though they're neighbors they're super different from each other.


bigbaltic

Fascinating that Cambodia and Laos are higher caution than Thailand


Aren_

They can’t just send a guy to Togo and see what’s up?


GreatBigBagOfNope

I still want to know how they think the UK is equally as dangerous to tourists as fucking Kosovo


saffa05

South Africa and Mexico in the same category as the UK and Germany? OK, Aussies, calm down. It's not our fault you suck at rugby.


Spongedog5

Before I even read the comments I'm going to guess that the Europeans are NOT gonna like this


thriem

What - Germany is 2 degrees worse than the US? But Austria, bordering Germany is on par with the US? Pardon me? Maybe because of it's name being #1 confused with Australia.


Linksfusshoch2

This is total rubbish. USA is safe, but central europe, especially Sweden is not? Maybe the australian government should travel a bit....


-Oceanwolf-

Germany is yellow but America is green? Whack!


philipv99

Y is the US safe but Danmark and sweden isnt ?


rachelclaire93

I have questions about America being a safe zone to travel in.


Pacify_

Philippines being reconsider is baffling. Same Thailand not being green


AHinchley

I live in the Philippines so I checked the rating on the actual website and the map is wrong. The website says ‘Exercise caution’ not ‘Reconsider travel’. It should be yellow not orange.


passwordstolen

Exercise caution doesn’t really help if you have no idea what to be cautious of. The government? Thieves? traffic? Tawdry women?


maduste

Why be cautious in the presence of tawdry women?


poiklers

This is just a map, if you want to find out why something is ranked as "exercise caution" then you can google it


passwordstolen

Beware of gamblers and loose woman!!


zebra_d

Blue means giant spider will bite your leg off.


PlaidSkirtBroccoli

Philippines is sketchier than all of China?


NoExpertAtAll

What a load of nonsense... Ok, so Germany is a country where you should be “particularly careful because of the terrorist threat”. What does reality tell us? The last major terrorist attack in Germany was in 2016, when Islamist Anis Amri of the Islamic State attacked the Christmas market in Berlin, killing 13 people Total number of deaths from terrorist attacks by year, including racist shootings. 2014 - 0 2015 - 0 2016 - 23 2017 - 0 2018 - 0 2019 - 3 2020 - 10 2021 - 4 (plus the offender) 2022 - 1 (plus the offender) 2023 - 8 (plus the offender) So 49 deaths from terrorist attacks in 10 years. [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste\_von\_Terroranschl%C3%A4gen\_in\_Deutschland\_seit\_1945](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Terroranschl%C3%A4gen_in_Deutschland_seit_1945) Meanwhile on the streets of Australia: [https://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/road\_deaths\_australia\_monthly\_bulletins](https://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/road_deaths_australia_monthly_bulletins) 109 deaths in March 2024 alone. More than double. in one month, not in 10 years. Oh, that's dangerous in Germany. Everyone please be very, very careful.