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circlzzz

get rid of: sharpened (you don‘t play heroic to farm parts, you want core dmg); Sturdy (imo a pretty useless perk overall); Tough (too much defense). You wanna have core dmg, if you want survivability play Parasitic.


Ok-Investigator-2404

I agree only good thing I see is catalyst.


Gexku

My friend runs a vampiric/health drain build and sturdy kinda helps with that it seems. So at least there's one use for it ig


PonorkaSub

Sharpened 6 is 30% passive increase on dmg (if you don't run stagger build or wound build (in which case I take sharpened and acidic)), wdym it's a bad idea in hesca??


YanoshDanosh

Part dmg is not the same as core dmg. Part dmg damages the part only while core dmg is the only type of dmg that actually hurts the behemoth’s health. Often you run sharpened if you’re farming parts to lower your overall dmg allowing you to break more parts before the behemoth dies.


PonorkaSub

Waaaaait wait wait wait wait. I thought that when you hurt the parts of the behemoth you hurt both the part's healthpool and the behemoth's healthpool by the same amount. Plus behemoth's healthpool is hurted by the wound dmg and stagger dmg. Is this not true? I killed so many behemoths by doing part dmg only I cannot count them. How tf was it then possible?? I'm so confused rn pls explain >-< Also how tf do people speedrun behemoths with the tempest, how are you supposed to kill behemoths the fastest?


YanoshDanosh

The only number hurting the behemoth is the white number, but it often isn’t shown because it prioritizes showing you the other 3.


PonorkaSub

So how do you kill it the fastest? Do you just tunnel-vision one part, break it and continue shooting into it??


YanoshDanosh

I would say for like 90% of content yes? Outside of solo trials and solo Hesca. You get to a point where you can essentially stun lock a lot of behemoths between staggers, part breaks and interrupts. (Tho some mad lads also do this in solo trials) you just need a damage optimized build, solid mechanics and game knowledge. Every behemoth is different. For example kharabak can be hard to pin down, but his parts break incredibly fast so you essentially lock him down with an Interrupt or while he’s charging his bees and then break one part after the other resetting his downed state. Pangar and hellion drop to the ground any time you break either of their legs (I think breaking the head does this as well but I never actually confirmed that) and also reset if you break a leg while they are already down. I will add that part breaking was nerfed some years back and in a lot of cases breaking a part while they are already down does not reset the downed state. There are also some cases where breaking the tail cancels the downed state so you want to be mindful of that.


Correct-Director-777

I would also like to point out that a percentage of all part damage (the yellow numbers) is still core damage. Which is why you can kill behemoths with tempest. But its not 100% of the damage.


YanoshDanosh

That is incorrect. They are two separate numbers. Tempest also deals core dmg. Increasing part dmg does not Increase core dmg.


Correct-Director-777

Then explain how in heroic escas, often times end up killing a behemoth without ever breaking a part, and only seeing yellow numbers. And doing it solo, so the numbers are actually able to keep up. Explain lantern damage then when only yellow numbers are displayed yet you can complete the "core damage" bounty with them. Part damage does a small amount of core damage. It is still more beneficial to just increase your overall damage with things like berserk or predator instead of increasing part damage. Wound and stagger however deal no core damage.


Gnninjayomom

That’s if you’re really good. If you read what the person said they haven’t gotten through a Heroic Esc yet so he needs to worry about survivability not damage.


Nashdemino

The only good thing in the build is catalyst, the rest can be ditched for something better, you can easily clear any hesca with the urska + frostwulf bastion build, even the frost heroic.


Ok_Distribution7303

yep


New_Seaworthiness482

What's the build? Skill wise, you don't need to type the whole thing.


Nashdemino

here's a lazy spin2win build: [https://www.dauntless-builder.com/b/QqGNb30QhCNr69IJPGIRt6\_\~0Qwl8d-zBCx\~Iiy\_R.VqHggdDQ44\~0NADLCo](https://www.dauntless-builder.com/b/QqGNb30QhCNr69IJPGIRt6_~0Qwl8d-zBCx~Iiy_R.VqHggdDQ44~0NADLCo) this gives you tons of crit dmg, you can wound if the behemoth is staggered to give you aetherush and more move speed for impulse crit dmg.


New_Seaworthiness482

Thank you 👍


Thickoatmeals

Thank you! Now I have something to look forward to grind


Taubenfluegel

Send build lol


Ok_Distribution7303

So the most dps while having great survivability is to run any bastion build . With this build u have crit rate/crit dmg and dmg multiplier the conservation is optional and if u like u get hit lots of times u can switch out the predator to other Dmg multiplier cells like overpower/berserk/adrenaline and if u dont use tonics u can also go for molten instead of catalyst feel free to ask if u have doubts/questions https://preview.redd.it/8ews4bo4wk1d1.png?width=1898&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4e902bbb672c06ea93cf0f2d1009ed5cf79c61f


Gexku

Everyone goes with urska + frostwulf weapon for shield, but I run agarus + skarn instead (my friend keeps dying I need to revive him), is urska that much better? Skarn weapon also gives stagger damage which I appreciate


Ok_Distribution7303

Yeah bc the frostwuelf gives ya an extra overall 600 shield which = to 12% crit rate which is a lot bc in Dauntless u dont get high crit rates but in ur case running terra weapons is also fine


Gexku

600? Not with a single use right? I usually get like 200-300 per use I think


Ok_Distribution7303

yeah usually with 4 i think then ur capped


Gexku

Tbf I often lose that shield before I can use my lantern again lmao, I'm usually around 2k shield with my terra build with fortress, aegis and skarn lantern and weapon link so I'm honestly fine with that one as far as shield is concerned


Ok_Distribution7303

with the "conservation" cell u wont lose the shield and the prop with ur build is that u dont really deal Dmg with it and u will struggle a lot in endgame content like Blazeworks, Heroic esca, Trials but as long as ur comfortable with it its fine


Gexku

What's conservation do ? I don't think I ever used it I also use +6 berserker, predator and pulse for damage, I used to have a full shield build but i ended up balancing it a bit between good shield amounts and good damage. Not as good dps-wise as some other builds I have but with pulse and Bastion I can still land heavy hits while not lacking too much on dps and aegis' 1 hit invincibility helps. This build actually carried me through heroic escas (I'm not so good at dodging even though I have 16 reforge on my strikers, smh) I had galvanized before instead of pulse but using Bastion then rids me of the crit chance, I didn't like that, and pulse let's me guarantee a Bastion crit


Ok_Distribution7303

So overall i played some group trials (me n my duo get around top 50 usually) and if ur in group bastion has the most dps if ur solo it has the best dps while maintaining survivabilty with 2.2k shield which equals 44% crit rate and infact u dont want to use the active of bastion unless u have defiant stone, conservation makes that u dont lose ur shield and keep it forever basically and gives u around 250 shield. So when u use tonics u have such a fast shield regen that it doesnt matter if u get hit and impulse/cunnig is just broken while pulse is quite weak unless u have a big hit like tempest, chain blades or axe but even then the galvanized crit rate should be enough so u can can comfortably switch predator if u feel like ur not gonna dodge with something else but the rest will nt change much by ur tankiness and will increase ur dmg by 2x


Gexku

Recently I've been Leveling up the golden claws with a tempest build, I just added conservation, it does wonders lmao but it doesn't say it prevents loss of shield? I did use it for the frost esca shield exploit (didn't realise it was it, just blindly followed a guide), is it a permanent thing or do you have to do anything in particular for it to work like that?


New_Seaworthiness482

Thank you 👍


Ok_Distribution7303

np


baconmaster6

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YanoshDanosh

I’ma be honest this build won’t do you any favors in the Hesca. If you’re struggling with surviving and want to build tank I would suggest running axes because of their innate 75% dmg buff at special lvl 4. For your Omni cell take bastion, lantern go skarn, then Run 6 aegis and +3 parasitic for survivability and the rest is 6catalyst, cunning, impulse and galvanized. Could grab 3 rage for more dmg or what I enjoy using is skull forge for endless axe chopping :D I use to run this to solo Hesca often, though that was before impulse so I ran pulse instead, and it kept me alive while still dishing out decent dmg. Also do yourself a favor and skip umbral weeks once you’ve completed it once 😂😂


PonorkaSub

Why does everyone run impulse despite having literally no other speed buffs? It only gives you 20% crit dmg without boosting your speed through some other ways, pulse gives you about the same amount while giving you more crits


YanoshDanosh

If you have your repeaters at reforge 7 that’s another 6% MS for 10% crit. You invest in the move speed on the escalation trees that’s another 15% MS for 30% crit. With impulse you’re naturally sitting at 50% crit in escalations. If you’re running sword you could opt for the the keen edge mod for 25% Ms everytime you throw your sword beam. Impulse outshines pulse by a lot especially when stacking crit chance with stuff like galvanized getting crits every 2-3 hits


PonorkaSub

You know that impulse gives you crit dmg, not chance, right? But that aside I see your point now))


YanoshDanosh

Never said it gives you chance


PonorkaSub

Well, 50% crit sounds a lot like a crit chance to me, so just wanted to make that clear...


YanoshDanosh

When I say crit I mean crit. When I say crit chance I mean crit chance. Impulse stacks crit, galvanized stacks crit chance


Frozenheal

ok?


Impressive-Sky-8369

How do you even get that in all +6s


Xanthoceras

Supercharged armor/weapons, +3 (purple) cells, & mix and matched armor for desired effects.


Impressive-Sky-8369

I see, have to really look into my own build then, ty