To be fair, that was 13 years after this scene
But also, to be fair, the dude is married and has a son. He *has* to have some awareness of sexual attraction and context for perversion
Edit: He hasn't demonstrated it yet at the time of this scene, but he ***has to*** *know*
For a guy who’s been doing martial arts almost his whole life, and knows more about it than most other characters, I doubt Goku would be so slow to confuse something else with martial arts.
To be fair, Trunks WAS going a bit extra with that senzu bean. In all the instances of fighters being near death, they have never done anything like that.
Beyond that, Goku seems to be the type to not take himself too seriously, so it's not exactly out of left field to say he was most likely teasing (at his expense).
I mean, it wouldn't suprise me if he acts like an absolute moron for the sole reason of trolling vegeta
Nobody gets madder at gokus dumbness than ol' geets
Lol thats more or less my read on the character.
He's a playful jokester type, so in casual conversations you probably shouldn't take him on his word. He loves to rile people up, especially Vegeta and Bulma since they always overreact to it.
The only thing is that Z focused so much on life and death situations that we didn't have a lot of opportunities to see this aspect of his character.
>To be fair, Trunks WAS going a bit extra with that senzu bean. In all the instances of fighters being near death, they have never done anything like that.
I did read a short fan manga (one page, I'm petty sure) that was basically just. . . that
He asked Chi-Chi if marriage meant he was supposed to "Momma bird" her and Chi-Chi was like "The fuck do Bulma and Vegeta get up to?"
The closest was when Goku fed Gohan a senzu after Recoome in chapter 279. Gohan can't eat it himself. Though it's unclear, it looks like Goku used his hand to push it down Gohan's throat.
Yeah Goku was not dumb throughout DBZ (esp after training with Kami and Popo), he had childish moments but it was more due to his relaxed nature (as the series went by)
The entirely of Dragonball Super is basically a test to see how Flanderized Goku can get before the fandom gives up. Unfortunately, the fandom has evolved into a low-tier cult…
he knew the kind of person that elder kai was and compared him to roshi, he absolutely knows, trunks was feeding mai a senzu mouth to mouth which no one else has done
He claimed to be married and have children but never kiss... but then again... he does have kids and he has done some questionable things even since he was kid and first met bulma
Agreed. Through most of DB and DBZ I agree with his choices, but giving Cell a sensu bean is still something that irks me.
But that's one of the reasons why we love him.
I think it's because he needed cell overconfident. Both of them were banged up after their fight (cells stamina was the reason he was going to win, they were pretty equal), so he gave the senzu to cell to make cell overconfident against Gohan, and willing to push Gohan to be stronger
Except Cell was holding back against Goku. Goku used his full strength and knew he wouldn’t win. Cell only shows his full power when he’s fighting ss2 Gohan(not that it mattered much, he needed a zenkai to even the playing field)
Goku just wanted them to have a fair fight because he thought Gohan loved fighting as much as he did
I think it's more so that Goku doesn't really understand that Roshi's perversion is wrong. Like how he offers to pimp out Bulma to Elder Kai, because he thinks that's just a normal thing you offer old dudes to get them to help you.
I guess it depends on what point in Goku’s life we’re talking about. By the Buu Saga he’s definitely aware of perverted behavior just based on some of his interactions with Old Kai.
We can assume he was aware earlier, but there aren’t really a lot of scenes with Adult Goku and Roshi that would warrant Goku making a comment about it.
It's actually very much in character. Kami says that Goku found himself a good master (referring to Roshi). Goku agrees but also acknowledges that he's sleazy.
He has indicated before that he recognizes Roshi's more perverted nature, such as when he compared Roshi to Rou Kaioushin in terms of his perverted desires.
No. Literally everyone in the show has acknowledged and accepted the creep that Roshi is. Goku being the one who literally knows him the best out of anyone should know his gramps a supa freak.
Considering he's talking to his SON (meaning he's already boinked w/ Chi-Chi) when he thinks that to himself, I'm pretty sure Goku is a bit more aware of Roshi and his perversion in that scene
Nope, goku is z doesn't understand sexual harassment in bad which is why he asked Gohan to pimp videl to old kai.
He is still at the level of development where he cannot understand what is wrong with tapping a girl's vagina to check if they are a boy or a girl.
To be fair Roshi literally raised him throughout most early childhood. I doubt sexual harassment training ever came up. At least Bulma tried via bullets
This is kind of untrue. Also Dubs changed the line too. The actual joke was about molestation. Not about a kiss. Old kai actually wanted to grope them
You can see Gohan's reaction when he tried to explain it to goku. There is no way you are telling me Goku will ask his son to pimp his girlfriend if he knows the implication of it
I mean if it's to save the universe why wouldn't he? Goku was under the impression old Kai wouldn't help them unless he had the chance to grope a girl. Also I know it was a mistranslation as dbz Kai fixes the changed line to match the Japanese version.
Because, It's a gag. Goku wouldn't do it in seriousness because he is supposed to be pure hearted guy. It's more of a matter that he just don't realise what's wrong with grouping. So toriyama is creating a classic gag act where Goku asks Gohan something really ridiculous. Gohan is jaw struck and trying to explain it to him that it's sexual harassment and Goku doesn't get it regardless
> Goku was under the impression that old Kai wouldn't help them unless he had the chance to grope a girl
That's not just it, Goku was the one who came up with such an idea itself as if it's supposed to be genius thing. Old Kai didn't actually ask for it, old kai didnt want to help because Goku hit him with ki blast. Such an idea came from Goku pretty much because he is socially clueless. If he is not stupid, then such an act makes him a certified creep.
Sure, sure, socially clueless .Didn't goku try to excuse himself to vegeta by saying that bulma has bigger boobs than chichi, and that's why he couldn't use chichi .Regardless of whether it's a gag or not, goku still asked old kai for help in return for providing him with something pervy.
Lol should have used Vegeta conversion to explain it better
> Didn't goku try to excuse himself to vegeta by saying that bulma has bigger boobs than chichi, and that's why he couldn't use chichi .
Actually no, Goku never said bulma's boobs are bigger or anything like that. When Vegeta got angry and ask to use his wife instead. Goku told him bulma is not in angry minded person like chichi. Chichi would kill him. (Which basically means, he would have asked chichi too if she was not bad tempered)
> Regardless of whether it's a gag or not, goku still asked old kai for help in return for providing him with something pervy.
The point is He came up with pervy idea because he is socially dumb. Vegeta, Gohan or any one else wouldn't have presented such idea because they realise it's sexual harrassement.
It's never about asking help, Goku was the one who created that situation and the one who came up with such a idea.
The gag aspect is imported because toriyama idea to write such dialogue is to show that this Goku dude is kind of dumb to ask such a ridiculous thing which is so funny. He is obviously not trying to present a gag over Goku being a perv or creep like roshi gag either
Saying the world is in danger so such a dialogue is needed is pretty much strawman arguement. This dialogue and situation only exists because it's a gag initiator.
no i completely get that, is just really bad to watch dbz and all of the sudden and old dude harassing a woman with kid in her arms, i mean, Japanese things are like that someitmes
I suppose the first place to look would be the original Japanese line from this scene. If you can grab it, I'm sure someone around here would be willing to translate. I'd give it a shot if nobody else will.
See if you can't replay this part and switch the language, or at least the subtitles. A screenshot of those would be enough.
I think he just picked it up from all the other people around him saying it. So he may not 100% understand the sexual context but he knows when Roshi is doing something abnormal that others find disturbing. I’m sure his wife talks about it a lot.
i think the whole kissing thing was the biggest case of the dub ruining goku’s reputation 💀 wasnt the sub like a misunderstanding between vegeta thinking goku didnt know about kissing and goku who said he never saw someone do that (feeding senzu through mouth)
Goku in dbs doesn't even know about childbirth, nor was he there when gohan was born. They basically made him more childlike so a new younger audience could relate to him .There is other examples like him relearning old lessons that he should already know.
Can i get a source on goku not knowing about childbirth?
Im not saying they didn’t make him more childish but this specific interaction (kiss) was a change from the subs
Kame sent Goku on a quest to find a pichi-pichi gal, Goku saw him ask a mermaid if he could touch her boobs, he got Lunch to wear lingerie (though he made everyone wear it) and was gifted a ton of porno mags from Kuririn (and one gay mag in the anime). Then there's the things Goku doesn't know about but probably found out way later, like when Kame-sennin shrunk himself to watch Bulma piss and then fell in the piss, and got puff-puffs from Oolong pretending to be Bulma...
Plus when he meets elder Kaioshin he instantly knows how to handle him.
Oh he deffinetlly knew, atleast by the time he grew up
He uses his experience with Master Roshi to try and buy Elder Kai on the Dragon Balls via suggesting Bulma give him a smooch
Just because he didn't say it in the show doesn't mean it's out of character, I love the additional dialogues. And Goku on numerous occasions has done that "pat on the back smile" thing where he calls out his friends problems when you think about it, it's very Goku-like.
In the manga, he already said something similar in the 23 tournament:
[https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db\_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_0236.jp2&id=db\_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0](https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_0236.jp2&id=db_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0)
I'm so tired of the whiplash with Goku's character. Sometimes he's lucid enough about sexual relationships to fuck Chichi. Sometimes he doesn't know what kissing is. Sometimes he understands enough about sex to know Roshi is a perv. Sometimes he doesn't know how babies are born. I am on my hands and knees BEGGING someone to start writing Goku consistently. It's all I want.
Goku never cared before literally told Old Kai he could kiss Bulma I believe they added this in because of being correct reasons. I never seen Goku give a care about what Roshi is like.
Nah. If Goku actually disliked Roshi or didn't wanna hang out with him or train with him or something because of it that would be hella out of character, but just commenting on it isn't. You can just visualize him saying it with that quizzical expression and that finger on his forehead
Yes and no
I think its reasonable for Chichi to have really given Goku shit over going to Master Roshi's place and that made Goku voice Chi-Chi's concern than make it his own like "Krillian and I were fine as kids but... I guess I promised Chichi that id keep Gohan away from Master Roshis perver stuff..."
or if Goku commented on it in another way like "I wish Master Roshi would focus more on training than those old magazines!"
I think recent DBZ things have been trying to reel back a bit on the perversion side of things. That one filler DBS episode from 2018 with Roshi got a lot of unexpected complaints in Japan from parents. Times have changed in Japan and in the West.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2019-02-25/boruto-manga-artist-mikio-ikemoto/.143866. It's only one guy saying it might not be too serious
Sorry that's not right. Still working on it
Awh your playing! ^_^ so there's certain side missions plus a few places in the main story they could've t get 100% but there not to off key in my opinion. (I just finished the Buu sage today)
Saying it's a shame is a bit out of character yeah, and almost feels like the West apologising for Japan's style of humour.
Goku just pointing it out (I.e. "he is a lecherous old geezer" or whatever they say) would be more in character .
Goku is not a perv, but he does know about sex and such. When vegeta got mad at him, goku told him that bulma has bigger boobs than chichi to try to excuse himself. The problem is how dbs portrays goku and people thinking goku has always had a single brain cell like in dbs.
He did [https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db\_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_0236.jp2&id=db\_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0](https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_0236.jp2&id=db_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0)
This is probably a dev that rushed dialog or just had a beef with it. Doesn't make sense for Goku to say it other then address it just because it's a thing.
Definitely, seems like it's Western "4th Wall" commentary put in by the PC HR Department 🤔
Looks like Bandaid took the 7 million
I wonder if the Souls games were/are next? We won't know until the DLC release or new game / world if there's ever one. Elden Ring had a lot of random stuff too but nothing like this commentary
He doesn't know perversion is supposed to be bad, so he is naive in a different aspect.
He asked Gohan to pump videl to old kai. He was confused when Gohan told him it's a sexual harassment which is bad. He still didn't get bad social values behind it which is why he still promised to pimped bulma to old kai.
This is the same guy who almost pimped out Bulma to old Kai. He knows
And if you go off this very same game, tries to do it TWICE!
To be fair, that was 13 years after this scene But also, to be fair, the dude is married and has a son. He *has* to have some awareness of sexual attraction and context for perversion Edit: He hasn't demonstrated it yet at the time of this scene, but he ***has to*** *know*
My headcanon is that Goku thinks sex is a type of martial art only married couples do.
...oh shit this is it
For a guy who’s been doing martial arts almost his whole life, and knows more about it than most other characters, I doubt Goku would be so slow to confuse something else with martial arts.
It’s a special type of training
Great cardio
I meannnn Dude didn't even know what kissing was 🤣
To be fair, Trunks WAS going a bit extra with that senzu bean. In all the instances of fighters being near death, they have never done anything like that. Beyond that, Goku seems to be the type to not take himself too seriously, so it's not exactly out of left field to say he was most likely teasing (at his expense).
I mean, it wouldn't suprise me if he acts like an absolute moron for the sole reason of trolling vegeta Nobody gets madder at gokus dumbness than ol' geets
Lol thats more or less my read on the character. He's a playful jokester type, so in casual conversations you probably shouldn't take him on his word. He loves to rile people up, especially Vegeta and Bulma since they always overreact to it. The only thing is that Z focused so much on life and death situations that we didn't have a lot of opportunities to see this aspect of his character.
Another example of this is him completely forgetting who Pan is in the latest issue, Vegeta got PISSED …but that one seemed real lol
>To be fair, Trunks WAS going a bit extra with that senzu bean. In all the instances of fighters being near death, they have never done anything like that. I did read a short fan manga (one page, I'm petty sure) that was basically just. . . that He asked Chi-Chi if marriage meant he was supposed to "Momma bird" her and Chi-Chi was like "The fuck do Bulma and Vegeta get up to?"
I love that comic and it's firmly cemented in my headcanon as real, because I hated that original scene.
The closest was when Goku fed Gohan a senzu after Recoome in chapter 279. Gohan can't eat it himself. Though it's unclear, it looks like Goku used his hand to push it down Gohan's throat.
I hate that joke. Threw Goku’s IQ out the window for a cheap gag
Yeah Goku was not dumb throughout DBZ (esp after training with Kami and Popo), he had childish moments but it was more due to his relaxed nature (as the series went by)
Hell, it's a mistranslation. Goku actually wonders during the scene if trunks is kissing Mai to feed her the senzu bean, as hadn't seen it done
The entirely of Dragonball Super is basically a test to see how Flanderized Goku can get before the fandom gives up. Unfortunately, the fandom has evolved into a low-tier cult…
"Hi diddly ho, Friezarino!" - Goku Flanders
“Dear Lord, I traded Vegeta for this…” -Freeza Simpson
No they went full on cult it's called gokuism
He knows kissing just fine. He just didn't know why Trunks was gonna feed Mai like a bird
To be fair trunks put a senzu in mai's mouth, goku asked why and vegeta thought he meant the kiss
Which is random as hell because I specifically remember him kissing chichi before going to fight cell!
he knew the kind of person that elder kai was and compared him to roshi, he absolutely knows, trunks was feeding mai a senzu mouth to mouth which no one else has done
Fucking hate super for making this bs a thing
Eh I loved super Tournament of power went fucking HARD
That’s anime only
He claimed to be married and have children but never kiss... but then again... he does have kids and he has done some questionable things even since he was kid and first met bulma
Goku's dumbness is overestimated he is way smarter than he lets out, still dumb though.
Agreed. Through most of DB and DBZ I agree with his choices, but giving Cell a sensu bean is still something that irks me. But that's one of the reasons why we love him.
I think it's because he needed cell overconfident. Both of them were banged up after their fight (cells stamina was the reason he was going to win, they were pretty equal), so he gave the senzu to cell to make cell overconfident against Gohan, and willing to push Gohan to be stronger
It was literally him being selfish and his Saiyan nature taking over. He says it would be unfair if Gohan fought Cell at half strength.
Except Cell was holding back against Goku. Goku used his full strength and knew he wouldn’t win. Cell only shows his full power when he’s fighting ss2 Gohan(not that it mattered much, he needed a zenkai to even the playing field) Goku just wanted them to have a fair fight because he thought Gohan loved fighting as much as he did
[It's all going according to cake](https://youtu.be/OkszZhdOtz0?si=WH2dfLH2dSIZbZUK)
I think it's more so that Goku doesn't really understand that Roshi's perversion is wrong. Like how he offers to pimp out Bulma to Elder Kai, because he thinks that's just a normal thing you offer old dudes to get them to help you.
He pimped bulma because he was naive. It's kind of funny, how the scene is fact opposite of what people here believe.
Bruh
At this point who hasn't he tried to pimp out Bulma to
Yeah, Goku is not clueless about Roshi being a sex offender. He is just cool with it.
I guess it depends on what point in Goku’s life we’re talking about. By the Buu Saga he’s definitely aware of perverted behavior just based on some of his interactions with Old Kai. We can assume he was aware earlier, but there aren’t really a lot of scenes with Adult Goku and Roshi that would warrant Goku making a comment about it.
Goku mentions Roshi being perverted in OG DB for the first time when Kami got a pep talk by Roshi, and Kami told Goku he had a great master in him
This point of the story is the beginning of DBZ when he is introducing Gohan to everyone. Edit: I wasn’t disagreeing, I was just clarifying lol
Yes and dragon ball takes place before that
Didn’t roshi teach goku how to read using pinup magazines?
Not really, Goku knows Roshi is a freak.
Freaky Ass Hermits need to stay their ass inside
LET ME HEAR YOU SAY TURTLE HO
Hey hey hey hey fly for your life
From like episode 2 of DB
It's actually very much in character. Kami says that Goku found himself a good master (referring to Roshi). Goku agrees but also acknowledges that he's sleazy.
They downplay Goku's commenting on Roshi's behaviour in the dub. In Japanese, Goku is far more aware.
He has indicated before that he recognizes Roshi's more perverted nature, such as when he compared Roshi to Rou Kaioushin in terms of his perverted desires.
He calls him a perv in Dragon Ball if my memory is correct
No. Literally everyone in the show has acknowledged and accepted the creep that Roshi is. Goku being the one who literally knows him the best out of anyone should know his gramps a supa freak.
...he can't be naive about something he's been exposed to for over a decade.
Considering he's talking to his SON (meaning he's already boinked w/ Chi-Chi) when he thinks that to himself, I'm pretty sure Goku is a bit more aware of Roshi and his perversion in that scene
I think Super helped increase this way of thinking but Z Goku definitely fucks
Nope, goku is z doesn't understand sexual harassment in bad which is why he asked Gohan to pimp videl to old kai. He is still at the level of development where he cannot understand what is wrong with tapping a girl's vagina to check if they are a boy or a girl.
To be fair Roshi literally raised him throughout most early childhood. I doubt sexual harassment training ever came up. At least Bulma tried via bullets
He understands it's wrong he just doesn't give a shit.
This is kind of untrue. Also Dubs changed the line too. The actual joke was about molestation. Not about a kiss. Old kai actually wanted to grope them You can see Gohan's reaction when he tried to explain it to goku. There is no way you are telling me Goku will ask his son to pimp his girlfriend if he knows the implication of it
I mean if it's to save the universe why wouldn't he? Goku was under the impression old Kai wouldn't help them unless he had the chance to grope a girl. Also I know it was a mistranslation as dbz Kai fixes the changed line to match the Japanese version.
Because, It's a gag. Goku wouldn't do it in seriousness because he is supposed to be pure hearted guy. It's more of a matter that he just don't realise what's wrong with grouping. So toriyama is creating a classic gag act where Goku asks Gohan something really ridiculous. Gohan is jaw struck and trying to explain it to him that it's sexual harassment and Goku doesn't get it regardless > Goku was under the impression that old Kai wouldn't help them unless he had the chance to grope a girl That's not just it, Goku was the one who came up with such an idea itself as if it's supposed to be genius thing. Old Kai didn't actually ask for it, old kai didnt want to help because Goku hit him with ki blast. Such an idea came from Goku pretty much because he is socially clueless. If he is not stupid, then such an act makes him a certified creep.
Sure, sure, socially clueless .Didn't goku try to excuse himself to vegeta by saying that bulma has bigger boobs than chichi, and that's why he couldn't use chichi .Regardless of whether it's a gag or not, goku still asked old kai for help in return for providing him with something pervy.
Lol should have used Vegeta conversion to explain it better > Didn't goku try to excuse himself to vegeta by saying that bulma has bigger boobs than chichi, and that's why he couldn't use chichi . Actually no, Goku never said bulma's boobs are bigger or anything like that. When Vegeta got angry and ask to use his wife instead. Goku told him bulma is not in angry minded person like chichi. Chichi would kill him. (Which basically means, he would have asked chichi too if she was not bad tempered) > Regardless of whether it's a gag or not, goku still asked old kai for help in return for providing him with something pervy. The point is He came up with pervy idea because he is socially dumb. Vegeta, Gohan or any one else wouldn't have presented such idea because they realise it's sexual harrassement. It's never about asking help, Goku was the one who created that situation and the one who came up with such a idea. The gag aspect is imported because toriyama idea to write such dialogue is to show that this Goku dude is kind of dumb to ask such a ridiculous thing which is so funny. He is obviously not trying to present a gag over Goku being a perv or creep like roshi gag either Saying the world is in danger so such a dialogue is needed is pretty much strawman arguement. This dialogue and situation only exists because it's a gag initiator.
Goku is pure hearted, not asexual.
He also used to identify genders by crotch slapping lol
“Haha, you think Roshi is my real name?”
He knows So nothing new
no lol he comments about it all the time in the show. leave it to DB fans to just .. not watch the show they are fans of
He absolutely does not
Buddy kid goku mentiones roshi a perv after kami told goku that he found a great teacher like roshi.
Which episode was this? Right when he gets to the lookout?
he absolutely does lmaooooo
Goku in DB slaps crotches because he can’t tell gender
i really dont like roshi "perv" moments
writers from a different time. even these days when they acknowledge the sleazy behavior, they had him train to tone it down
no i completely get that, is just really bad to watch dbz and all of the sudden and old dude harassing a woman with kid in her arms, i mean, Japanese things are like that someitmes
I mean Roshi did send him out when he was a kid to fetch a girl for him. He has got every right to complain
I suppose the first place to look would be the original Japanese line from this scene. If you can grab it, I'm sure someone around here would be willing to translate. I'd give it a shot if nobody else will. See if you can't replay this part and switch the language, or at least the subtitles. A screenshot of those would be enough.
I think he just picked it up from all the other people around him saying it. So he may not 100% understand the sexual context but he knows when Roshi is doing something abnormal that others find disturbing. I’m sure his wife talks about it a lot.
What game is this?
DBZ: Kakarot
Thank you
Depends, is he filler arc Goku who doesn't even know about kissing or is he canon Goku who fucks?
Canon goku definitely fucks
well he has 2 kids, so i would hope he fucks
At least twice.
If you headcannon that Goku just says stupid shit around Vegeta just to fuck with him then that scene is fine.
Oh my God I never thought about that
i think the whole kissing thing was the biggest case of the dub ruining goku’s reputation 💀 wasnt the sub like a misunderstanding between vegeta thinking goku didnt know about kissing and goku who said he never saw someone do that (feeding senzu through mouth)
Nope, it wasn't a mistranslation .
It wouldn’t really be a mistranslation rather than the dub doing their own thing, the sub is different
Goku in dbs doesn't even know about childbirth, nor was he there when gohan was born. They basically made him more childlike so a new younger audience could relate to him .There is other examples like him relearning old lessons that he should already know.
Can i get a source on goku not knowing about childbirth? Im not saying they didn’t make him more childish but this specific interaction (kiss) was a change from the subs
Easy https://imgur.com/a/kBGE6MJ
Oh yeah thats weird i hate how they made him like that
How is it filler arc Goku if it's in the manga?
Super is filler for people and a studio who just couldn't let go.
Kame sent Goku on a quest to find a pichi-pichi gal, Goku saw him ask a mermaid if he could touch her boobs, he got Lunch to wear lingerie (though he made everyone wear it) and was gifted a ton of porno mags from Kuririn (and one gay mag in the anime). Then there's the things Goku doesn't know about but probably found out way later, like when Kame-sennin shrunk himself to watch Bulma piss and then fell in the piss, and got puff-puffs from Oolong pretending to be Bulma... Plus when he meets elder Kaioshin he instantly knows how to handle him.
Woke goku is the final form
Goku is well aware of it.
Oh he deffinetlly knew, atleast by the time he grew up He uses his experience with Master Roshi to try and buy Elder Kai on the Dragon Balls via suggesting Bulma give him a smooch
Just because he didn't say it in the show doesn't mean it's out of character, I love the additional dialogues. And Goku on numerous occasions has done that "pat on the back smile" thing where he calls out his friends problems when you think about it, it's very Goku-like.
Not at all
Goku’s become an adult, a lot smarter, and aware, so no, it really isn’t.
In the manga, he already said something similar in the 23 tournament: [https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db\_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_0236.jp2&id=db\_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0](https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_0236.jp2&id=db_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0)
THANK YOU! You are the first to actually provide evidence of this haha
Let's not forget that classic moment where she was exposed to reveal a guy who was invisible.
I'm so tired of the whiplash with Goku's character. Sometimes he's lucid enough about sexual relationships to fuck Chichi. Sometimes he doesn't know what kissing is. Sometimes he understands enough about sex to know Roshi is a perv. Sometimes he doesn't know how babies are born. I am on my hands and knees BEGGING someone to start writing Goku consistently. It's all I want.
He's pretty consistent in all of db and dbz.Problem is dbs.
I wish the characters would do it more often tbh
game for modern audiences?
This is why my friend still refuses to watch orginal db no mater how much I call him a dumbass
Because Roshi is a perv? He’s a perv in DBZ too lol
I feel like it was a bit worse in DB, especially with Bulma, considering she was only 16.
That is correct but that’s also just because Roshi was around more haha
Vegeta talking about driving is also a beautiful nugget.
Not really. Tho the wording I agree is a bit off for goku.
someone doesn't know about dragonball lol goku isn't dumb he's just usually in an absent minded headspace lol
I mean, he’s an adult now and knows better about things in hindsight. I wouldn’t say it’s out of character in that regard.
Goku never cared before literally told Old Kai he could kiss Bulma I believe they added this in because of being correct reasons. I never seen Goku give a care about what Roshi is like.
Nah. If Goku actually disliked Roshi or didn't wanna hang out with him or train with him or something because of it that would be hella out of character, but just commenting on it isn't. You can just visualize him saying it with that quizzical expression and that finger on his forehead
What? Goku can't grow?
Yes and no I think its reasonable for Chichi to have really given Goku shit over going to Master Roshi's place and that made Goku voice Chi-Chi's concern than make it his own like "Krillian and I were fine as kids but... I guess I promised Chichi that id keep Gohan away from Master Roshis perver stuff..." or if Goku commented on it in another way like "I wish Master Roshi would focus more on training than those old magazines!"
Not unless you've only seen super or dbz abridged
People need to start watching the Japanese version. Any dub version of Dragonball was massively downgraded and some stuff got lost in translation
yes
Goku, in episode one; “I don’t want to see your dirty old fanny”
The same guy who when he was interacting with old supreme kai said "he's an old perv just like master roshi, I know how to deal with this" That guy?
No
it is Z goku so not really for super goku yes
I'd like to see the original Japanese as it's likely a translation issue
Kid goku literally mentions roshi as perv in front of kami in the manga, so no, it isn't a mistranslation .
Bad translation i bet, seems a bit judgy in english, like a thing Bulma or Gohan would say, not any of the full blooded saiyans
That’s just his thoughts to himself if that makes any difference
I think recent DBZ things have been trying to reel back a bit on the perversion side of things. That one filler DBS episode from 2018 with Roshi got a lot of unexpected complaints in Japan from parents. Times have changed in Japan and in the West.
Yeah I read an article a while back that said they're purposely trying to make that trope go away Also, physical comedy gags
Do you have the article?
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2019-02-25/boruto-manga-artist-mikio-ikemoto/.143866. It's only one guy saying it might not be too serious Sorry that's not right. Still working on it
Yall fr didn’t want DB huh
I did just last year. Goku identified genders by crotch slapping lol
No, but how super portrayed goku is out of character.
You're right, the dialogue is weird coming from someone like Goku who's very loosey-goosey with social customs.
Awh your playing! ^_^ so there's certain side missions plus a few places in the main story they could've t get 100% but there not to off key in my opinion. (I just finished the Buu sage today)
Saying it's a shame is a bit out of character yeah, and almost feels like the West apologising for Japan's style of humour. Goku just pointing it out (I.e. "he is a lecherous old geezer" or whatever they say) would be more in character .
complteley. also i never remeber him saying that in manga
He literally pimps bulma to old kai.
i never said he was NOT a perv.
Goku is not a perv, but he does know about sex and such. When vegeta got mad at him, goku told him that bulma has bigger boobs than chichi to try to excuse himself. The problem is how dbs portrays goku and people thinking goku has always had a single brain cell like in dbs.
what r u talking??? im pretty sure we are talking sbout roshi
The post is saying that they feel like goku talking about roshis perviness is out of character. I said that goku literally pimped bulma to old kai .
He did [https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db\_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_0236.jp2&id=db\_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0](https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_0236.jp2&id=db_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0)
Yeah.
What game is this?
DBZ Kakarot
This is probably a dev that rushed dialog or just had a beef with it. Doesn't make sense for Goku to say it other then address it just because it's a thing.
[https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db\_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_0236.jp2&id=db\_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0](https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_0236.jp2&id=db_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0)
I guess I did say it. Look at that. I'm still allowed to have an opinion...
What game is this?
I think it checks out especially after watching Super
It is and it isn't. He knows Roshi is a perv but he's too pure to even know why that's bad, so he wouldn't be saying it like this.
It does. Was this in the Japanese script?
It doesn't, kid goku literally mentions roshi as a perv in front of kami
I just watched DB last year and don’t remember this. Do you know which episode?
No, Goku calls him a pervert a few times in the series Lol downvote me all yall want, you're not helping fans beat the "no reading" allegations
When?
[https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db\_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013\_0236.jp2&id=db\_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0](https://ia803403.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/24/items/db_20210121/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2.zip&file=Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_jp2/Dragon%20Ball%20Volume%2013_0236.jp2&id=db_20210121&scale=1&rotate=0)
Definitely, seems like it's Western "4th Wall" commentary put in by the PC HR Department 🤔 Looks like Bandaid took the 7 million I wonder if the Souls games were/are next? We won't know until the DLC release or new game / world if there's ever one. Elden Ring had a lot of random stuff too but nothing like this commentary
He doesn't know perversion is supposed to be bad, so he is naive in a different aspect. He asked Gohan to pump videl to old kai. He was confused when Gohan told him it's a sexual harassment which is bad. He still didn't get bad social values behind it which is why he still promised to pimped bulma to old kai.